/sci/ - Science & Math

niggers

>>12727606
in SPACE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTVn6Mse_xQ

thread theme

I would love to drive a car in low G, wonder what kind of new races you could do.
Dakar rally but on mars for example, making jumps over dunes in low G.

>>12727625
It's all fun and games until you crash, the crew capsule explodes and all the oxygen goes somewhere else.

You'd have to make the cars durable as fuck to avoid this.

>>12727614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soXkFMO4ixI

>>12727630
People come to races to see crashes.
Give the people what the want.
As long as it's not old Le Mans levels of death then i dont see a reason to create all these safety rules.

Now the real work can begin

>>12727641
Now that I think about, why isn't that looking for water resources?
It should be the most important thing to find.

>>12727691
Wouldn't you have to drill for it?

>>12727641
>depot
perseverance is cancelled

>>12727641
I'm willing to bet these samples will never make it to Earth, or only by starship

>>12727700
the first sample return will be a slab of martian whateverrock that musk will have carved into a desk.

>>12727700
Starship makes sample return piss easy, it could bring a whole fuelled up electron over, just add some system for scooping up the samples and you're done.
Obviously propellant boiloff is an issue there but you could bring a similar sized rocket that uses solids, maybe that's the obligatory oldspace part of the contract, they seem to love solids.

>>12727697
So be it

>>12727744
>they seem to love solids
makes sense from a defence perspective. can't produce any new nukes rn but need to keep the natural generational churn of people that actual know how that shit works and is produced.
you end up with a bloated and outdated space program as a result but having a big dick to wave around is paramount.

>>12727641
>>12727713
What an exciting night!

Can't wait to see what data we were able to pick up from the landing using our InSight detectors.

Great to witness this event right?

>The spacecraft are not expected to collide with a star for 1 sextillion (1020) years.
will you be the man to save the voyager spacecraft from a fiery death?

>>12727713
>It landed safely?
>Glitch ze software.

Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us....The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena.... To my mind, there is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly and compassionately with one another and to preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

>>12727783
I think Sagan was being too sentimental, we're a nomadic species by nature, our entire mental and physical toolset evolved to allow us to move from place to place and build new living space for ourselves once we got there.
In the state of nature humans who reach the population capacity of their environment factionalize and this can be solved by either splitting the group or by warfare.
We've been stuck on Earth for too long, it's full now, there's no place worth living that hasn't been crammed full of people, there's almost no way to escape mass communication and forced interaction with others at this point.

We need to be caring less about the home we know and are comfortable with, and more concerned with the next place we can make into a home for ourselves.

>>12727806
bro there's an entire continent that's uninhabited

>>12727831
>he doesn't know about the antarcticians
ngtmi

>>12727831
A continent is insufficient, a new planet is required.

>>12727841
And if you don't like that planet, just build a new one. Ringworlds are the shit.

>>12727846
Yes.
At some point we'll also have to tweak the sun, and then shove it somewhere else in the galaxy more to our liking.

>>12727846
>just build a new one
*proont one

When can we expect some more content from the rover?

>>12727853
a realistic dyson swarm wouldn't be that organised. more billions of individual habs vying for space and resources like some solar system trailer park.

>>12727854
>proont brains trying to proont a planet
>proonter gets bumped by a small asteroid
>planet ends up having misaligned hemispheres
>proont brains seethe
>millchads chuckle as they cut their planet from a large block of forged steel

>>12727856
>Deputy project manager Matt Wallace says they hope to have video from entry, descent and landing cameras returned this weekend and ready for a press conference Monday; looking forward himself to seeing it.
from jeff foust's twitter

>>12727870
>didn't calibrate z axis
>planet is spaghetti

>>12727859
Well, your initial energy generating infrastructure likely would be, but yes, granted, the layers over top of it would be uneven.

I don't want to hear a single word about proonting until someone shows me a 3D printer that can print another 3D printer

>>12727600
I love Perseverance as much as anyone else but damn it was super expensive. $2.4 Billion. For that money you could’ve sent 6 Opportunities to Mars, or 3 InSights, or almost 7 Phoenix landers. Seriously though it’s a cool rover but I have no idea why it cost so much money. Still love it though and I’ve had life on Mars on repeat for the past 12 hours

You guys ready for the ESA to but THIS on Mars?

>>12727886
Mass produced rovers and probes would be a threat to the job keeping operations at NASA because they believe that there is only a limited number of things probes can do on another planet, and rushing to complete those things as soon as possible would mean less overall jobs

>>12727892
If they employed some lateral thinking they'd realize that once rovers and probes are solved problems they'll probably have something else, more interesting to work on.

>>12727890
why didnt they launch it this year? why do US Mars missions ALWAYS launch on time?

>>12727884
we can't organise at a nation level, let alone a planetary level. a trillion humans at sol level would be chaos.

>>12727886
>we could send several repeating experiments to the same place
big brain opinions here

>>12727744
Solids make good ICBMs because you can store them forever without anything more sophisticated than a silo. The high TTW is also ideal because in a nuclear exchange you want to get your birds off the ground as quickly as possible. And they are relatively cheap and easy to manufacture since the whole fucking rocket is the motor. Downside is that solids are a bitch to control so they have to be basically pre-aimed at their target and they have a bad habit of blowing up mid flight. US ICBM strategy us lots of low-yield warheads spamed on solids with a handful of high accuracy high yield strategic weapons for the most critical targets. While everyone else generally has much higher yield weapons on higher accuracy liquids because they dont have the manufacturing or technical ability or warhead capacity to spam low yield low accuracy solids.

Oldspace is just an extension of the US defense contractors basically and they have both the most expearience with solids and they are already producing all the requisite chemicals and things to make them.

>>12727901
Parachute testing issues apparently

>>12727886
>For that money you could’ve sent 6 Opportunities to Mars, or 3 InSights, or almost 7 Phoenix landers.
And you still wouldn't have gotten the results that Persy will make.
It was about the same cost as Curiosity, and Curiosity has already done more than Oppy and InSight together (inb4 can't dig a hole)

>>12727890
Cool science fair project, ESA!

>>12727906
wtf embarrassing

>>12727911
god this thing is embarrassing.

>>12727906
I know the lander is being developed by Russia but is Russia also in charge of entry or is that part managed by ESA?

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-awards-contract-to-launch-initial-elements-for-lunar-outpost
>NASA Awards Contract to Launch Initial Elements for Lunar Outpost
>NASA has selected Space Exploration Technologies
Free-market capitalism strikes again, commies and SLA statists on suicide watch!

>>12727905
As a baguette, I'm pretty sure Europe still use solids for Ariane for the same reason, ie keeping the people who make our SLBM employed.

>>12727873
>try to lathe a planet
>didnt tighten the chuck enough
>planet stock gets shot out at 0.8c

>>12727911
>this is the main picture on the wiki page for this rover so it's not like this is /sfg/ being unfair dicks
that is a £5 ebay thermometer taped to the side of a mars rover
the absolute state of the esa

>>12727890
>>12727911
>>12727911
I don't get the hate for this thing. It just seems like a larger version of Opportunity and whatever the Chinese rover is called

>>12727920

>>12727938
It looks really stupid and also got delayed 2 years. Anyways ESA has never stuck a landing on Mars yet they’re going all in with this thing

>>12727938
it's only two decades obsolete lmao

>>12727931
>main picture on the wiki page
No reason to look any further

>>12727938
It just feels a bit silly when America has landed two rovers and ESA can't even get one finished, and I say this as a European.

Feels like it's still the 60s/70s with almost no meaningful input from Europe in the space race. Can't blame operation paperclip forever.

>By March 2013, the spacecraft was scheduled to launch in 2018 with a Mars landing in early 2019.[11] Delays in European and Russian industrial activities and deliveries of scientific payloads forced the launch to be pushed back. In May 2016, ESA announced that the mission had been moved to the next available launch window of July 2020.[8] ESA ministerial meetings in December 2016 reviewed mission issues including €300 million ExoMars funding and lessons learned from the ExoMars 2016 Schiaparelli mission, which had crashed after its atmospheric entry and parachute descent (the 2020 mission drawing on Schiaparelli heritage for elements of its entry, descent and landing systems).[24] In March 2020, ESA delayed the launch to August–October 2022 due to parachute testing issues.[9] This was later refined to a twelve-day launch window starting on 20 September 2022.[3]
i didn't realise it was possible to be more old space than nasa but here we are.

>>12727944
who's building the heatshield and backshell?

>>12727948
jesus...how embarrassing

>>12727944
>2 years
4 years

>>12727952
Oh I'm not saying it's ahead of it's time or anything. Just I saw anons saying it looks kinda funny, even though it doesn't look that different from similar sized rovers

>>12727955
>jesus...how embarrassing
What's embarrassing about that picture?

>>12727925
There’s a bunch of reasons why the Ariane 6 is so cucked. First off, it falls for the high MECO velocity meme which means that landing the first stage on a barge is impossible. Also the second stage has a very low thrust to weight ratio because of the Vinci engine. Third, solid boosters are an easy way of improving the payload of these types of rockets (Ariane 5, Atlas V, Delta IV, Vulcan). The real problem is that it uses too much technology from the Ariane 5, which is expensive and impossible to reuse because of all of the above. The main engine is an improved Ariane 5 main engine. The second stage of Ariane 6 was already in development as an upper stage for the 5, but it was decided to be used on a new vehicle and ESA was forced to build a new rocket around it.

>>12727902
China is fine.

why does yurope choose to rely on russia for anything?? why would they partner with them, do they prefer hogher risk? last time china partnered with russia the mission failed spectacularly, and inspired china to completely in-house their next one

>>12727964
m8 it's a pos designed in the 80s and being launched (late) in 2022. europe is dead.

>>12727944
It's a flipphone in a smartphone world, it just shows that ESA has more in common with the developing world's efforts than it does with NASA desu.

What's he thinking?

>>12727970
It’s to spite the Americans. Also they probably owe the Russians for launching astronauts. Anyhow ESA are retarded they have SEVERAL “collaborations” with the Chinese launching up too

>>12727974
>ha lof ha feef ee hafahi ho. heff hee fwee!

>>12727970
the eu in general has small penis syndrome when viewing themselves next to the us so will do literally anything, including partnering with rus/chi instead of asking the us for help.

>>12727985
Persy has European instruments tho. (not sure if coordinated by ESA, probably not)

The meteo thing and the direct up-down antenna are Spanish. They and France also collaborated for the SuperCam. Also I think there was something from Norway

>>12727991
yea but those are individual institutes or companies not an entire continent wide agency. the fact nasa finds it better to collaborate with them directly rather than through the esa says a lot.

>>12727905
The US uses lower yield weapons because our warheads are actually a lot more accurate than most other countries'. You don't need as big of a boom when you know your blast will go off closer to its intended target.

PHOTOGRAPH BY E.C. SLIPHER, LOWELL OBSERVATORY ARCHIVES

>>12727999
indeed, you have a good point

>this shot was taken 35 years ago
impressive

>>12728004
Viking was great I can’t believe NASA nailed their first Mars landing.

>>12727974
Why is he wearing a mask by himself? Didn't get also get vaccinated? Don't staff at the WH get tested daily?

>>12727870
here's your new planet bro
>>12727974
>What's he thinking?
. . . where am I?

NASA press conference in 4 hours
https://youtu.be/kNVzxeYjE9Q

Perseverance images here
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/

>>12727971
>>12727972
I'm not arguing with you about the state of ESA, ESA's budget allocation cucks it from doing anything interesting. Sure, you could call the design dated but the instruments aren't, some of them where built by companies that also built some of Perseverance's instruments

>>12728024
>ESA's budget allocation
Explain?

>>12728002
lmfao where are the canals? hahahaha

>>12728024
which leads to the question - whats the point when curiosity/perseverance exist?

>>12728002
Funny how pictures taken in 1950's still look like that

>>12728027
NASA budget is ~3 times the one of ESA

>>12728023
>same three pics from yesterday, 3rd one corrupted
yup i think percy is fucked bros. malfunction image is very telling. it's over, press conference just to save face. 4 more years of insight 2.0

jezero crater? more like jizzero crater

>>12728038
Not only that, they're required to allocate it (personnel-wise) in proportion to the countries paying it. In other words, they can't hire 10000 dutch scientists if the dutch contribution to the budget is only able to pay for 1000 of 'em etc.

>>12728027
I imagine a rover would fall into the robotic exploration category, or the scientific program. Either way, all is less important than heckin earth observation!

>>12728048
gotta do what 1000 commercial businesses do anyway because reasons.

>>12728048
in one word, embarrassing

>>12728048
>>12728052
I imagine this probably relates to military agency's needs to spy on people or something.

>>12727974
>Ah so it’s time for Neil to come down the ladder now

>>12727901
>US missions ALWAYS launch on time
>Curiosity
Anon....

>>12728055
Galileo would in there too I'd say

>>12727974
Children's shampoo

>>12728018
The president is one of the most respected and looked up to people in the world. People see him wearing a mask, they are more likely to do it themselves. Not really hard to understand.

ALIVE

It's still not transmitting data, it seems, but it's now emitting a signal, instead of just receiving.

>>12728033
They're obviously not the same instruments. Regardless I think it's worth sending more that two rovers to Mars

>>12728077
So is it hurt?

>>12728033
I doubt NASA will share everything they've learned on Perseverance with ESA, so it'll probably be useful to have our own design and data on the production of a rover.

>>12728033
NASA has a hard on for spending over $1 Billion on a mission for a one-off exploration voyage.

>>12728060
is there any naked ones of her?

>>12728063
>The president is one of the most respected and looked up to people in the world.
This hasn't been true in a long-ass time, just look at the last five.
>"BJ at work, don't mind if I do"
>MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, uh now what
>"peace prize? for moi?" *destabalizes Libya*
>"I will insult literally EVERYBODY in 4 years."
>"But I didn't campaign, how did I get here?"
Anybody acting like the executive branch is respectable is either stupid or lying, likely both.

>>12728082
the billion dollar question

what does /sfg/ think of this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA

>>12728090
The last respectable President was probably Reagan.
>inb4 DUDE CONTROVERSIES.
Yeah I know but people really loved him and he won 49/50 states. Anyhow before Nixon the President would often have 60-80% approval ratings

>>12728092
Dumbest shit I've ever seen, next

>>12728092
i could drunkardly lose myself in it

>>12728090
Regardless of what you think, what the president does matters. If he wears a mask often in public, it will save lives. But honestly, I doubt you believe masks work at all.

>>12728082
it means it has power, at the very least, and has actively turned on the antenna.

Right now the "downlink" is gone :/
Let's wait to see if it comes back and actually transfers some data.

>>12728103
I see you trying lol

>>12728090
The last president I'd say I respected would probably be Reagan, before him would be JFK

>>12728023
NOTE: that first YT link appears to be a less detailed event.

The official press conference is here in 2 hours
https://youtu.be/Xz-Id5ZNopM

Very likely to reveal new images at that time

>>12728114
JFK was a great democrat if he ran today I’d gladly vote for him

>>12728115
or reveal complete and utter mission failure. where's that data rate? WHERE

>>12727600
What’s crazy is that there’s a good chance Perseverance will be active when the first humans touch down on Mars.

>>12728103
They don't work remotely as well as prompt contact tracing and quarantine that's for sure. If your disease management team isn't willing to trace+quarantine you might as well wear a rosary, rabbits foot, and any other magical trinket you could imagine, because some fucking piece of 50% defective paper prooonted in China not even rated to MERV 14 will offer you about the same amount of protection.

>>12728090
>>12728096
>>12728114
Bush Sr was unironically a great president and I will fight to defend this.

>>12728138
there's also a good chance the samples are still there

>>12728092
I like the wikipedia page more. I haven't seen it in years but if it's the one I think it is, it'd be a lot better without any characters narrating in it and only sceneries and phenomena occuring.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future

>>12728140
I disagree but I like him better than his son. I can’t believe I used to defend Bush jr in grade school when all the other kids would suck off Obama

>>12728142
>this is your brain as a spacex stan

>>12728001
I didnt mean to imply US solid ICBMs are inaccurate, just less accurate than a liquid type design would be. The US is so far ahead of almost everyone else on solid fuel thrust vectoring and control it's almost silly. That's what I meant when I said that other countries lack the ability to spam solids like the US, they don't have the technical know-how to make them as accurate as the US solids are and the investment in time and money doesnt seem worth it.

>>12728077
>-161.83 dBm
did Harris build this thing?

>>12728147
When Starship nails the bellyflop how will you cope

>>12728142
>he doesn't know about roverjackers who would sell those titanium parts for that jezeroiote meth

>>12728153
He'll shitpost as something else for his (you)s and you'll keep giving them to him.

>>12728147
you don't need to be an Elon Musk fellatio enthusiast to make a solid bet that a Mars sample return isn't happening any time soon.

>downlink is gone
>opportunities for MRO intermediation do not begin until 19:00 UTC
>tfw the faggots are right and it's dead

>>12728153
AHAHAHA yeah that's rich. You can talk big when SN15 actually manages to land. SN10 is ngmi, that's certain. If you think it is, you're delusional

>>12728163
oh it's happening. ESA has it covered

>>12728046
ESA is a mess. But at least they're still going. I hope it gets better with renewed interest in spaceflight, if NASA was alone in space exploration they'd hold back even more fundings and repeat the Constellation blunder again.

>>12728153
>Starship will never get to orbit
>Starship will never leave LEO
>Starship will never get to interplanetary space
>Starship will never get to Mars
>Starship will never come back from Mars
>Starship will never...
I mean, those goal posts can be moved alot

>>12728175
It is a mess, and yet as a European it's my only shot to get in the space business.

>>12727806
>we're a nomadic species by nature,
He knows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCnle9pLNsI

>>12728167
why else would they schedule a press conference, it's obv bad news. they said they would have the deets on monday

>>12728023
>WE LANDED ON MARS
It's like they're showing off.

>>12728179
I agree, fellow yuropean. I do regret not choosing a more space related field, I've always loved it but believed years ago it'd barely keep moving. And yet, here we are with a lot new innovations and competition.

>>12728183
Idk what it is about Sagan. I like what he says but I despise his voice, cander, and following. I want to punch him

>>12728192
What are you in? I'm EEng/Control Engineering, been trying for years. I guess it's all up to perseverance (yes I know spoiler tags aren't supported).

>>12728138
will they steal the plutonium to build nukes?

>>12728195
>his voice, cander,
It's very NY jew.
>t. NY Italian
>following
Yeah, so do I.

>>12728174
>Mmm... Samples...

>>12728150
You already explained why solids were worth investing in though, storability is key for strategic superweapons, you never want to actually use them so you want them as storable as humanly possible. Hypergols are both volatile and toxic, and do degrade markedly over time compared to solids, room temperature liquids like RP1/Peroxide could work but also degrade over time and as multiple Russian nuclear subs discovered, storage of liquid HTP under pressure can be quite dangerous, and cryos are off the table because they need a whole logistical chain and significant continuous power generation to remain in a usable state.
So while solids are shitty in ISP, and don't lend themselves particularly well to throttling, or moment-to-moment control, they can still put a nuclear weapon within less than a kilometer of the target where it will have maximum effect, and can be stored for long periods of time with zero maintenance.
That's all that's necessary for a nuke, although I must admit, it would be cool to be able to drop a warhead within +/-5m of the target, the nature of nuclear weapons doesn't require that level of accuracy at pretty much any scale, even the smallest possible nuke imaginable wouldn't need such a level of precision.

>>12728176
>Starship will never pass a cryo test
>Starship will never hop
>Starship will never fly to a high altitude
>Starship will never complete the bellyflop without ripping apart
>Starship will never be able to glide back to the launch site
>Starship will never relight its engines
>Starship will never survive the kickback maneuver
We are here
>Starship will never soft land after the kickback

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>12728207
What are we looking at, solar panels?

>>12728207
Sad part is the Beagle was found on Mars surface a like a few months after its project manager died

>>12728143
this is when the simulation really ends

>>12728207
Man, they should have checked with your first anon. Just remind us, how many mars landers have you worked on before?

>>12728207
I think it's an economical use of space, a real shame it only died from one panel not unfolding

OH N-

>>12728204
>strawman the post

>>12728196
A flimsy dropout. Didn't have any ambitions or goals to pursue, so I got off and spent years doing nothing or menial jobs. Now I'm looking to get back into CS or some Engineering like Automation or other down to earth faculties to keep me straight. I'm still in my late 20s so I think I can still do something worthwhile.

>>12728211
Yeah, I know.
Still, I don't get why they made it so complicated for something so small. You have to open five panels and if any one fails the whole thing is over.
>>12728209
That's my question.
>>12728215
I don't need to build a car to know when one doesn't work.

>>12728217
If you ever look at the Soviet Luna landers they opened like petals of a flower.
They should've done the same thing, that way even if one fails to open you can still get some limited usage out of it.

>>12728218
F

>>12728228
>I don't need to build a car to know when one doesn't work.
Imagine your mechanic saying this lmao

This general has gone down the tubes. Filled with dunning–kruger psueds now.

>>12728167
>>12728218
>>12728234
Did something happen?

Wait is Percy actually dead? Don't toy with me bros I don't know if I can take it.

>>12728204
I think the core of it is that SpaceX hasn't done something in space that NASA hasn't already done in the past in some form. SpaceX critics will always be around until the company does something more than sending someone to the moon and back.

>>12728236
I have a masters in computer engineering.
The only pseud here is you. Everyone knows redundancy is the name of the game.

>>12728218
I

>>12728234
it actually blew up at launch, everything we've seen is just them saving face with CGI

>>12728240
>>12728241
Nothing has happened, in fact.
And unless it had been doing stuff with MRO at nighttime, at some comms window, it has not trasmitted anything in all day.
The DSN antennas have uploaded data, but not downloaded.

This is what one can tell from that DSN live page, of course.

>>12728241
Some JPL people on Twitter have been saying they got several images and some videos of the landing down and it's being processed

>>12728240
>>12728241
will find out in a few hours

>>12728251
PS:
at some point it activated its antenna, one hour ago or so, but it didn't seem to send any real data

>Insider JPL anon was right

>>12728241
>Believing chink astroturfers
This general got too big, it's being fed into the propaganda machine now. Expect this place to be full of crack pot theories, and general FUD about NASA + SpaceX for the rest of it's existence.

>>12728248
shut the fuck up bro

>>12728258
what did he say?

>>12728252
link

>>12728259
blame your new god trump

>>12728231
this is purely speculation but wouldn't that configuration be more suited to the moon that where you can get more solar energy? Mars probably required more real estate of solar panels, thus the stacked discs

>>12728264
>>12728261
https://twitter.com/LongHairNasaGuy/status/1362615973627322368

>>12728259
>not going to /intp/ where anti-space shilling is banned

>>12728276
>it's fucking nothing

>>12728275
>Mars probably required more real estate of solar panels
That is definitely true.
Still feel like they could've designed it better.

they're gonna spend the next two years going around those fucking rocks arent they

>>12728218
am I to really believe this actually happened? on another planet 200 million km away no less?

>>12728295
No. Those are just bad landing spots. They can still drive carefully through some of that terrain. They were just playing it extra safe for landing.

>>12728299
It does not make much of a difference if it is 1 million or 1 billion km away, it's autonomous.

>>12728299
That's why they never record it. They think us fools

>>12728308
they cant get descent on earth right. we saw what happened last week with starship

>>12728314
>what's falcon 9

>>12728295
Rocks are fine, I'm more concerned with all the fucking sand dunes nearby. We'll know more about the site when the mast gives us some good images, but I suspect they'll have to spend a lot of time going around.

Also reminder to other anons: pretending to be retarded is still just being retarded. You retard.

>>12728314
obvious bait

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

>>12728140
in the current context bush jr wasn't that bad either.

>>12727600
>Drinking a coffee with the helmet on

this image is not worthy of /sci/

>>12728320
>AAAAAAAH
>I'm POOOLSATIING

>>12728320
Europe has had a rough 100 years anon have some pity.

>>12728174
oh you

>>12728179
your best bet to be in the space business is to design, manufacture and sell something needed in space or on mars. this could be literally anything. we can all think of examples of products designed (whether they need to be or not) specifically for humans in a certain abnormal place.

>>12727600
>coffee with helmet on
>coffee not instantly evaporating in Martian atmosphere
>Mars having a moon large enough to cause an eclipse
I get what the artist was going for but REEEEEEEEEE

>>12728207
some madman from the wurzles.

>>12728347
>>Mars having a moon large enough to cause an eclipse
Phobos is pretty close to Mars. I don't think that image was too inaccurate when it comes to that point.

>>12728202
C6H14 - N2O4 would be a pretty based storable bipropellant.

>>12728330
there is a hidden straw going through his sleeve into his helmet.

>>12728207
Putting the mission-critical antenna underneath the fucking solar panels meaning that you have 5 mission critical unfolding events in a row is the most retarded shit ever

>>12728279
is this on that website that is likely to get you arrested and also has about 3 posts a day?

>>12728299
yes yang, your higher ups will be trying to steal the plans for how they did it as we speak.

>>12728363
its shopped

>>12728363
>arrested
STOP RIGHT THERE! SWAT V& HAS BEEN DISPATCHED AND WILL MATCH ORBIT IN 6 MONTHS FOR YOUR ARREST

>>12728352

>>12728373
bigot

>>12727625
Low G is perfect for hectic skids because grip is reduced but mass stays the same.

>>12728375
>group b rally but it's 2100 on mars and all the cars are 5000hp electric nutmachines

>>12728373
kek'd

>>12728374
>hating mr popo
Racist

honk honk

>>12727953
>i didn't realise it was possible to be more old space than nasa but here we are.
NASA's probe/rover division are the absolute best at what they do. I can imagine them churning out designs for Bradley sized (~30 ton) rovers with onboard reactors, tank treads, high end onboard computers, and enough transmitter power to direct uplink from the surface of Pluto if given Starship mass budgets to work with.

1 hour to NASA press conference
https://youtu.be/Xz-Id5ZNopM

>>12728373
ay' yo lmao

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? IF YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY WHAT'S PROBLEMATIC IN .5 SECONDS OR LESS YOU ARE FIRED, EXPELLED, UN-FRIENDED, AND UN-PERSONED!

>>12728202
>That's all that's necessary for a nuke, although I must admit, it would be cool to be able to drop a warhead within +/-5m of the target, the nature of nuclear weapons doesn't require that level of accuracy at pretty much any scale, even the smallest possible nuke imaginable wouldn't need such a level of precision.
At one point PGMs were considered equivalent to tactical nukes for their ability to reliably kill small targets.

>>12728394
so steam-punk space is real?

>>12728407
55 years ago.

>>12728405
still no downlink bros...https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html

>>12728407
No Big Gemini.

>>12728407
no big-g

>>12728410
>6ft
Manlets btfo

>>12728407
Space shuttle only blew up because blacks and women on board

>>12728036
>its suggested that mars could be a dying star
what

>>12728423
Eternally

>>12728418
>>12728419
Nice

>>12728400
or just give jpl the sls budget and tell them to launch it on starship.

>>12728407
Not useful for beyond LEO.
No BIG G.

>>12728407
they put the flag sticker hanging off the edge.

found maria zurbuchen's youtube channel. only one video. she's kinda cute fellas
https://youtu.be/IAaVGkNSmx4

>>12728425
humans have come a long way in 100 years

>>12728407
Explosive ejection seats in a pure oxygen environment.

>>12728446
tfw im her first and only scrubscriber

>>12728455
please don't go full /lit/ on her

>>12727641
Don't forget ESA and Roscosmos take the samples back :^)

>>12728092
extremely stupid popsci

>>12728446
dawh

>>12728446
Please don't do what you are thinking of /sfg/. Prove that you are better than /lit/.

>>12728459
>go full /lit/
Explain

>>12728446
looks like angourie rice

>>12728470
oh boy

>>12728459
>>12728465
what did lit ever do to hurt anyone

>>12728470
the poor girl had to quit the internet.

>>12728475
they ran some booktuber off the internet by being creeps

>>12728465
/sfg/ has built more rockets than /lit/ has written books, especially if Elon's use of the urf meme was a hat tip.

>>12728470
Today, I will remind them where they are.

>>12728488
indeed

>>12728489
>/sfg/ has built more rockets than /lit/ has written books
what happened to that guy with the open ended pipe bomb he was working on?

>>12728417
Maybe shes tired from such a long trip and doesn't want to talk right now. Ever think of that? No you didn't, because you only think about yourself!

>>12728470
>>12728475

>you still don't have a jpl gf

>>12728490
>>12728492
5 seconds? a new record!

>>12728279
fuck, I can't wait to shitpost on MoonChan

>>12728176
They can be moved as long as tourists want (you)s and as long as thunderfag wants views

>12728220
it isn't though. everything he mentioned in that post shills have claimed wouldn't ever happen. not giving you a (you) though, fag

>>12727600
the liquid in the mug would boil, freeze, and sublimate

>>12728501
post the beach pics bro

>>12728490
>>12728492
>>12728499
Fucking hell

>>12728490
>>12728492
>>12728499
why do I keep forgetting how messed up this site is

is the downlink not just from MRO? so we wouldn't see it on the DSN site for Percy

>>12728501
Had an ex that worked there. Been years and I’m still not really over her desu.

>>12728518
>>12728519

>>12728526
how much do they pay engineers at jpl?

>>12728523
Percy can communicate directly to the Madrid antennas.

>>12728515
I almost missed your reply because it didnt say (You) on it, but I went back and checked. Sure enough, you were replying to me! I just came to say that sorry. Your post? Not an argument.

>>12728460
I'm pretty sure they are just saying that, and what's actually going to happen is NASA will get a private company to do it.

/sfg/ has more important things to do than harass an innocent women on the internet. These engines won't design themselves.

>>12728546
>other boards have cancer
>/sci/ gives people cancer

>>12728546
Still waiting for 4ASS to send a frog into space

>>12728446
who?

>>12728446
ok, who was it

>>12728546
This is a big engine

>>12728546
if /sfg/ is going to do an engine, it will be proonted and run on propane.

>>12728555
>funko pop
she deserves to get bullied

>>12728564
i will bully you.

>>12728555
It was me

>>12728555
yo is she referencing Trump's thank you kanye tweet commenting on her own video

i can tell you all want to fuck her you sick freaks

>>12728555
No Anons please don't do this.
Is there not enough evil in this beshitted Earth already?

>>12728446
>>12728564
>pronouns in her insta bio
Every time...

>>12728578
Yes.

>>12728578
No, only rocketphiles here. Organicphiles gtfo

>>12728564
I wish she bullied my funko pp

>>12728578
She is the same age as me, but see >>12728583 and >>12728564, it isn’t worth it

>>12728451
this is from the late 1950s though. humans definitely knew that mars was not a dying star. is this just asian autism?

>>12728593
god that picture is dirty

>>12728598
she looks 15 in that video

>>12728578
she's over 18 bro

>>12728605
On what planet??

>>12728446
Is this /sci/'s new queen?

Yup i’m not dealing with what’s about to happen here, see you fellas tomorrow

>>12728615
Pic related is a system engineer
>https://youtu.be/qWoKbyCR8ls

>>12728599
Might be a translation error. Some languages didn't distinguish clearly between stars and planets.

>73582721
shut up boeingnigger

>>12728536
That's ridiculously slow though.
Bandwidth through MRO is better.
There's also some emergency antenna that can receive at 10 bits a second or something.

>>12728624
>heather bottom - behind the spacecraft
i wish

>>12728630
>Some languages didn't distinguish clearly between stars and planets.
because those languages are made by stupid apes that don't know or care about astronomy

When are the first high quality images from Perseverance supposed to arrive?

>>12728564
no bully pls

FORGET ABOUT THE WOMAN! IS THE ROVER OKAY OR NOT?

AAAAHHH
I'M UPLOOOOODING

Percy is alive.

>>12728638
Why hasn't any space agency put any real effort into lascom satellites? It's a cellphone tower with a high bandwidth laser receiver/transmitter

>>12728658
would good is expanding the species to other worlds if you don't yourself expand your genes?

>>12728649
probably not for weeks, maybe months

>>12728658
no

>>12728666
Dang. Why?

>>12728552
>froggy capsule with propulsion bus service module
Boys, we need to send it to the ISS. Make it a solar electric microwave plasma thruster with water prop and there should definitely be enough delta-V if it launches at the right inclination. 4chan getting living payload there would humiliate literally billions of people.

>>12728664
>Not developing ectogenesis chambers

>>12728668
they have to make sure there aren't any aliens in the pictures first

>>12728672
have sex

>>12728660
Pics fucking when?

why hasn't nasa developed ftl communication so it can livestream from the surface of mars? what are all those tax dollars for? get it together

>>12728624
haha i'd love to finger her Bottom if you know what i'm sayin

>>12728660
link?

>>12728675
You first

>>12728676
>499 b/sec
july maybe

>>12728649
The other anon is wrong, they should have pictures by this weekend, and video to show on monday according to the press conference.

anybody else really dislike these twitter accounts for the rovers that post in first person? It's not quite as bad as if it were a corporation doing it since NASA isn't trying to sell me on a product, but I still hate it.

>>12728660
FUDposters deserve to die

>>12728615
Beautiful girl

>>12728668
They have to render all the CGI

>>12728684
https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html

>>12728669
I wonder if a microwave steamer engine could be made from microwave oven parts

>>12728660
>500bps
How big are the raw images? If they are something like 2MB at least one should be ready in an hour.
It's certainly an improvement over 15bps last time.

>>12728663
NASA has. They even did a test mission from lunar orbit to earth with the LADEE mission. It ain't a cell tower though. Hard part is pointing the laser.

>>12728690
It's outreach for females that can't relate to inanimate objects. Whether that's good or bad is up to you, but it's a deliberate marketing decision with a specific goal.

>>12728675
seethe

Press conference LIVE
https://youtu.be/Xz-Id5ZNopM

>>12728692
How can I contact her?

>>12728691
crying bro?

>>12728707
>brit/pol/ does /sfg/

>>12728718
What for?

>>12728717
not live. lying cunt

>>12728700
If we get a hold of a magnetron and the correct power supply, it should work

>>12728726
sex

>>12728649
Monday

4ASS is now in charge of constructing and launching a Mars orbital communications relay, what do?

>hard mode: no Starship

>>12728717
live

>>12728746
Holy shit I have a date tonight bros! Will post photos

>>12728748
rocket candy in off the shelf steel tubes with avionics welded to the side. add as many stages as you need to achieve orbit.

>>12728748
A solar/RTG powered cellphone tower with a laser communication transmitter at one end
One radio antenna is used to align the laser array

i just can't...

JUST SHOW US THE DATA

>>12728766
you just know

>>12728737
A microwave magnetron might be useful for a test article and to learn about magnetrons but it would probably be more sensible in the long term to build one custom to the needs of the drive.

/sfg/ seems to have come down with a case of COOMER. Don't worry anon this will only hurt a lot.

lol what a shitty image

ok this is going to be a cool af presentation

NEW PICTURES

https://youtu.be/Xz-Id5ZNopM

new images

>bridles
heheh

RIP Skycrane

>>12728766
She fucks rockets, YOU JUST
KNOW

>Doubters BTFO in record time

>>12728793

>>12728793
big black ones

>>12728797
Wow they found ETs already?

doomers btfo

>>12728793
Are there any other pics?

what do you think chloe sackier smells like?

>>12728831
Cherries and dirt

>>12728831
cheap deodorant. she doesn't care for perfume. she just wants to get to mars and find a bf.

>>12728699
whats this

>>12728847
planned path

oh shit, photo from the landing published... the video is going to be incredible.

>>12728798
la creatura

When will NASA stop suppressing the evidence of extinct alien civilizations on Mars?

>>12728797
Was that photo made by ExoMars or Mars Express?

can somebody post the link to the photo gallery again

>>12728864
Mars Recon Orbiter

>tfw no cute rover gf

>>12728867
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/

omfg hallie will never be your gf
>that nervous look
>that demeanour

How long is the transit time between Earth and Saturn? Basically how long will it take Dragonfly to launch and land on Titan?

>>12728867
This is what I've been watching, but nothing new so far
https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/

>>12728869
>>12728874
been humping my pillow while listening to her

SPACE
CUTES

i just want her to hold me and tell me perseverance is ok

>>12728891
>Anna Fisher
ok bro you cant just dox her like that

>>12728881
they're talking about how these rocks have holes in them

AUGURIES HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR THE ROVER PERSERVERANCE AND THE OMENS ARE GOOD.

THE SACRED CHICKENS HAVE EATEN AND SUGGEST GOOD FINDINGS ARE AHEAD FOR MARS MISSION 2020.

TOMORROW, AT 12:56 PM EASTERN TIME, A NORTHROP GRUMMAN ANTARES ROCKET WILL LAUNCH THE 16TH CYGNUS CARGO FREIGHTER ON THE 15TH OPERATIONAL CARGO DELIVERY FLIGHT TO THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION. THE MISSION IS KNOWN AS NG-15.

THE ROCKET WILL FLY IN THE ANTARES 230 CONFIGURATION, WITH TWO RD-181 FIRST STAGE ENGINES AND A CASTOR 30XL SECOND STAGE.

THIS LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE WALLOPS ISLAND PAD 0A IN THE PROVINCE OF VIRGINIA.

LAUNCH THREAD WILL BE PROVIDED BY MARCUS ANONYMOUS IN THE HOURS PRIOR TO LAUNCH.

BE AWARE.

NO FURFAGS, JANNIES, OR UNCLEAN REDDITORS MAY ATTEND.

THIS NEWS UPDATE WAS PROVIDED BY THE BELTER GUILD OF MINERS.
TRUE ROMAN MINERALS, FOR TRUE ROMANS!

Where does NASA hire so many hot chicks??

>>12728898
geologybros are badass

>>12728903
southern california

>they have two completely different sets of software for controlling the rover
yikes

>>12728909
I must go there

>>12728919
Don't let your dreams be dreams anon

>>12728904
ORANGE SOIL

>>12728916
>Why didn't NASA just install more RAM

shes so cute

>>12728925
WELL DON'T MOVE IT UNTIL I SEE IT

they use jpg? not WebP? disgusting

>>12728931
>Rover recorded in gif instead of webm

>>12728931
no one uses webp

>>12728796
Such an annoying person.

>>12728764
Lasers don't go that far though, we suck at keeping them focused over thousands of km.
Would be sweet when someone works it out though cause you can transmit power also.

>>12728901
*chariot perseverance

>>12728787

Reminder that from the time Perseverance originally landed until now (still less than 24 hours) a human could have already accomplished what perseverance will take 2 years to do

>>12728954
Made bogdnaoff memes?

>>12728954
Why send one human when you can use the 100 ton starship payload to send hundreds of massive, uncucked drones and then have human beings on a Mars base controlling them

>>12728934
>landing was recorded on a Motorola razr flip phone

>>12728787
>It is a "lots of wymyn" presser
When will NASA's diversititis attack stop?

>>12728979
>when

>>12728979
It's 3/2 women to men, calm down incel. Have some sex.

Guys SN6 is about to hop I think

>>12728965
They landed on Mars? Wake the Void Dragon.

>>12728954
That's a bit of a stretch, but not too far of from reality. Though I feel like NASA would send humans if they could. It'd be really funny if Perseverance's sample tubes were collected by a bunch of scientists driving around Mars on a modified Cybertrack or pic related.

>>12728984
Take me back