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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054627v3.full.pdf

>We found significant positive correlation (r=0.58, P=0.03) between West European hunter 64 gatherers (WHG) ancestral fractions and COVID-19 death/recovery ratio for data as of 5th65 April 2020. This association discernibly amplified (r=0.77, P=0.009) upon reanalyses

>Finally, six immune system related SNPs (rs2243250, rs1800872, rs1800896, 340 rs1544410, rs1800629 and rs1805015) that display significant variability between Europeans 341 and East Asians (Odds Ratio>2, Chi square>40, P<10-10)are likely associated with the 342 development of immune responses in the first year of life

>Consequently, WHGs who contributed discernible ancestry fractions to most 426 Europeans, provided very low fraction (<10%) of the same in the ancestries of Near 427 Easterners (Turkey, Georgia and Armenia) [37]. Consistent with this, COVID-19 428 death/recovery ratio in Turkey, Georgia and Armenia remained discernibly lower compared 429 to most European countrie

TLDR; more western ancestry = greater susceptibility to covid

>b-b-but indians in london were more likely to die
yes, due to low vitamin D. Correct the D and whites die more.

You can also see this trend in the US--Asians have a slightly lower deaths/capita than whites, DESPITE the fact that ALL Asians live in the city, while most whites live in rural isolated areas. Meaning the effective death rate is much lower in Asians.

Another weird trend is that African-Americans have a very high death rate from this, as opposed to Africans. Latinos too, it seems. However, actual Africans don't seem to be hit much at all. It's almost as if recent racial mixture is also a type of risk factor, maybe wonking up some immunity genes?

>> No.12716931

Why do Asian males and Hapa males from r/aznidentity and r/hapa and other such subreddits cope so hard? Why do you hate white guys so much, when white people are the race that likes you guys the most?
Is the fact that a decent percentage of asian women prefer white men really that infuriating to you? Its not even that many. The vast majority of asian women prefer asian men. I don't get it.

>> No.12716963

>>12716931
I'm glad the nigs are taking them out, they deserve it.

>> No.12716975

>>12716963
I honestly don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean?

>> No.12716988
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12716988

italy had it bad in the early stages of it. maybe its attracted to dark genes.

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>>12716916
I think we're learning the nocebo effect is more powerful than we imagined
african americans - media whips up a frenzy - plenty of stress - premature death
africans - not so worried - not so dead

>> No.12717004

>>12716975
A bunch of blacks were shoving, robbing and generally attacking elderly asian people. Talking about the kung flu.

>> No.12717008

>>12716931
>>12716963
seethe, it's a journal
why so butthurt?

>> No.12717018

>>12716990
that pic kind of argues against what you're saying, but certainly possible

>> No.12717023

>>12716916
its all a scam

>> No.12717038

>>12717008
I'm asking you why you're so butthurt at the existence of white dudes when we are the only group that likes you.
Every other racial group bullies you and yet you come at white guys. Why? Answer the question instead of projecting.

>> No.12717055

>>12716916
Is it whites die more, or is it just that there are more older/sicker whites? Either way, it's nice that the virus is no longer racist.

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>>12717055
am med and my lungs are heavy. it doesn't just go into whites

>> No.12717088

>>12716916
It doesn't. It targets the iron poisoned. That is, common Europeans, wealthy Africans, etc.

>> No.12717103

>>12717018
the pic is of placebo, the more studied one
people feel less pain if they're aware you're giving them a pain killer
placebo and nocebo go hand in hand

I postulate, if the media was all like "this new virus reverses aging and is good for you" some would die and we would attribute it to other causes, some would feel no change, and some would swear they feel 10 years younger

>> No.12717104

>>12716916
>younger people have a higher chance to survive the sniffles
Yes all these countries do have a younger population. And SARS-CoV-2 was never directly isolated from a sample. It was always mixed. Rivers postulates were never met.

>> No.12717185

>>12716916
>actual Africans don't seem to be hit much at all
it's probably because there's no actual data

>> No.12717229

>>12717185
>No data
Another 'no data' retard. You seriously think global media sponsored by big pharma have resources and time to report about Ebola, but 'no data' on covid, a global pandemic? It's the only way your kind can cope.

>> No.12717236

>>12717229
You still haven't answered >>12717038
Stop deflecting and stop projecting.

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>>12717038
This is actually a very good question. I'm like 1/16 Ottoman Turk because of some Eastern European ancestry. Obviously, I'm not a full-blown Chinamen, but I'm probably in a better position to speak to the issue than a lot of other people. Speaking on behalf of my bretheren from the far-east of the Eurasian steppe, the reason my Chinese brothers hate white people for no reason, is because they're already beginning to feel the pressure of globalism and neoliberalism, which both seek to suppress any unique identity, traditional culture, or aspirations for personal success and social progress. Chinks are already beginning to feel the pressure (because, of course, they're next on the agenda after whites), and they feel the need to react and defend themselves, but most of them are either too blind or too cowardly to acknowledge that the real issue is globalism, Zionism, neoliberalism, etc., and instead they go after white people, because it's a socially acceptable way to take out there frustrations and convince themselves that they're fighting back against the system. In reality, they are just further weakening themselves and alienating themselves from the only ally they have in the fight against globalism and complete cultural homogeneity.

>> No.12717260

>>12717236
I knew you were a retard, you can't even tell who's responding to what. I'll enjoy seeing your race decimated by disease and low population while the other races thrive on your efforts at self-destruction.

>> No.12717274

>>12717260
I'm smarter than you buddy and white people are not going anywhere.
The opposite, as genetic modification technology expands almost everyone will become white.

>> No.12717279

>>12717274
Take your meds schizo.

>> No.12717284

>>12716916
Maybe it's because there are more europeans?

>> No.12717290

>>12717279
>TaKe YoUr mEdS!!
Cope and seethe. There is nothing you or any other science denying pseudo intellectual retard can do about the rise of genetic modification and how it will mold the future of humanity.

>> No.12717296

>>12717253
That makes sense for Chinese people but why do Asian-Americans hate white people?

>> No.12717326

>>12717290
Lol and there's nothing you can do against Libtard and Jews destroying your culture and allowing immigrants into your countries. The only way you know how to cope is to post iq threads because you are spineless, voiceless retards with no power to change or make meaningful policies. So you come here and delude yourselves with IQ and genetic modifications topics because you don't understand how the world functions. Imagine being this deluded about what's happening in the real world?

>> No.12717331

>>12717326
I've literally never made an IQ thread and the entire /pol/tard conspiracy is irrelevant to me as it is not how the world actually works.
You want to know how the world actually works? in ~10 years Asian women en masse are going to be genetically modifying their children to be white.
I am literally a graduate student studying bioinformatics. You do not understand what is happening at all.

>> No.12717593

>>12717038
>study about coronavirus
>EEK OOK CHANG HAPA CHINK
why are they like this?

>> No.12717638

lab born virus. that's why. it never jumped from animals to humans, the virus is fully geared for human infection. east asians are largely unaffected by the virus. Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, japan, korea etc. half of those countries couldn't organize a lockdown or enforce restrictions yet their deaths are minimal. its not due to under reporting either. i know a lot of people in the Philippines and they do not know of anyone who's died from covid. yet you go to burgerfat land and most people know of someone.

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>>12717088
yea, I know that europeans are very iron intolerant, which is very ironic (double heh) because they eat the largest amounts of red meat, while being some of the least adapted for it.

why would wealthy Africans be iron poisoned though? Africans don't really have hemochromatosis alleles. Maybe the milk-evolved Tutsi, Fulani etc would, but not the Bantus that US blacks are descended from.

>>12717103
I don't think so, most people didn't take the virus seriously from the getgo. It's only after people started dying that the masks/shutdowns happened. Fauci literally said "not to wear a mask" in March.

>>12717104
It's controlled for age.

>>12717185
This is cope

>>12717274
>>12717236
CRISPR would actually demolish whites even further, since the only remaining advantage of it is a pigmentation palette that projects power due to high resource inheritance within the last few centuries. If you "democratize whiteness" so that anybody can have light features, then the "actual whites" would have even less of a social edge.

Plus, editing pigment genes has zero effect on ancestry. You could have white Koreans, blonde Indians, etc but the amount of European ancestry would not change.

This has already happened, the whitest skinned Europeans (brits) are only 60% European. Russians, who are quite a bit tanner, and have some Mongoloid mixture, are ~80% European

Also, learn to reply to the right post LOL

>> No.12717697

>>12717088

iron fortified cereals and heavy meat consumption. heme iron is fucking trash for humans.

>> No.12717700

>>12717682
I'm an HFE compound heterozygote, and I don't have iron overload at all. I mean, I have high hemoglobin, but my transferritin levels are only in the upper range.

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>>12717638
I am open to the idea that it is a bioweapon, yes. But europoids are too emotional to get past their China seethe and look at the actual facts.

There are suspicious circumstances surround the Wuhan virology lab, they are right about that

But there are also extremely suspicious circumstances surrounding Fort Detrick, the mystery vaping pneumonia, the higher amount of non-vape respiratory illness in July, and literal textbook COVID cases in October. As well as the positive sewer sample from Spain in March 2019, which has been retested multiple times and always returns positive.

Wuhan virology is probably involved, but if you bring up the other stuff the Non-Player Caucasoids will just spout "CHINK SHILL" at you.

>> No.12717745

>>12717038
i'm sure the AMWF picture is just a coincidence right?

>>12717682
russinas have close to non mongoloid admixture and brits are fully european

>> No.12717758

>>12717593
i'm sure a guy that posts an AMWF picture wants to have a serious conversation about covid

>> No.12717762

>>12716931
fpbp

>> No.12717765

>>12717709

>the mystery vaping pneumonia, the higher amount of non-vape respiratory illness in July, and literal textbook COVID cases in October

I did read about this before, sent a chill down my spine. Someone even suggested it was an escaped vaccine. Either way, I do not believe for one second this virus just materialized out of no where from bats, a meat market or some other animal acting as a retainer. Also MERS is suspected not to come from Camels after all as it still shows up sporadically in the middle east and in people who've had no contact with camels. It doesn't make you a schizo to be suspicious when circumstances are strange.

>> No.12717800

>>12717593
Not once were Asian people insulted. However, white people were insulted in almost every post.
The entire OP is a shitty covert attempt to imply that white people have worse genes and are killed by covid because of it.

>> No.12717850

>>12717800

More like it would imply the Chinese engineered a virus to kill Europeans.

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>>12717745
False. Russians and Finns have 10% Mongoloid admixture.
Also false. Brits are 60% European, the rest MENA.

>>12717758
>I'm triggered to tears by a picture so I can't talk about science, waaaah
grow a pair pinkie pie

>>12717765
>Either way, I do not believe for one second this virus just materialized out of no where from bats, a meat market or some other animal acting as a retainer.
Fully agree.

However, the virus probably did originate in bats first. This is because the death cases in SEAsia are INSANELY LOW. Lower than China even. When you look at bat populations, they reach their highest numbers and biodiversity in Sundaland.

I believe there was a SEAsian bat virus that made its way across the population there, and was also isolated by the US/Wuhan institute and enhanced for human infection. When the bioweapon was deployed (roughly August 2019), SEAsians and even NEAsians/Oceanians to a lesser extent, had already built up immunity to the natural version.

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>>12718231
>>12717765
Here's the map of bat biodiversity. Sunda origin likely.

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>>12718240
>>12717765
It's also confirmed now that vapers are 5x more likely to contract COVID in the first place.

The "mystery vape pneumonia" of August 2019 was probably just the most susceptible people contracting some of the earliest waves of COVID.

>> No.12718256

>>12717682
>It's controlled for age
Please copy it and normalization for background mortality and amount of testing. Sadly the quality of the paper is so bad I can’t even properly view it.

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>>12718245
>>12718240
>>12717765
Here's another curiosity from a simple google search. Searching the year 2019 shows tons of COVID-like outbreaks.

Searching the year 2018 shows literally zero. Meaning COVID was well underway by October.

>> No.12718264

>>12718231
Gay barcode

>> No.12718270

>>12716916
is it because it's a more recent study, and minorities/southerners/other more open & social cultures have already had their cleansing?
or is it because westerners are still taking holiday trips all over the place?
or is it that it's just a flu, and the west is going overboard with recording everything?

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>>12717765
>>12718258
This is one of the earliest case reports of "vaping pneumonia" I could find, from August. The bulk of the cases started in August.
Naysayers pretend that the vaping illness was caused by vitamin E oil. But this is false:

1) 40% of the cases used vapes that did not contain vitamin E

2) when you filter out the vaping illnesses, "unexplained respiratory illness" was still much higher among non-vapers in August 2019 than in 2018.

3) Any attempt to blame this on vapes would require that vape formulation was changed drastically in the year 2019. There is no evidence of this.

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>>12718270
This study is from last summer, so it's not recent at all. Though even recently I think the data still holds. IIRC India was basically over COVID by now.

There are basically two common links:
1) Western European ancestry.
2) Recently mixed ancestry (Afro-Americans, Latinos, "Native Americans" who are in reality mixed, and some Euro-Americans.)

It's certainly not just a flu
travel has no effect on it, travel bans are just theater. Whenever a new strain comes up, it's already present globally in small amounts. The only way travel would matter is if any country had shut down literally all, or almost all travel into the country (not even China has done this)

There are two possibilities, not mutually exclusive:

1) the virus really is a bioweapon, and it is targeted toward Europeans specifically, while leaving Asians specifically unharmed.
2) Asians simply have a genetic immune profile that is more adapted for this virus. This also makes sense when you look at the historical tolls from the Black Death (50% in Europe, 20% in the Middle East, much lower in Asia)

A really special thing about the Mongoloid phenotype is that it is the only morphology where the thymus does not atrophy. All other races (not just European) lack thymic persistence. Interestingly thymic persistence is also higher in fat people, women, and young people, the latter two of which we know for a fact have superior immunity.

>> No.12718320

>>12718308
>>12718270
The thymus is critical in T cell production, and it seems like T cells could be? more important for this virus than antibodies are.

I've seen numerous reports of deaths in people who had tested positive for antibodies. Recently one such doctor died from it, via MIS-A
I've also seen plenty of cases who lack antibodies altogether, and end up being fine. This is all anecdotal tho

>> No.12718328

>>12718240
>>12718231

Probably deployed so we can usher in a new globohomo society where we have no rights and own nothing.

>> No.12718336

>>12718231
>False. Russians and Finns have 10% Mongoloid admixture.
they don't, finns have 4% east asian admixture and russians even less, why are east asians so obsessed with claiming europeans as asians?
even your retarded chart chart gives finns less than 5% east asian admixture

>Also false. Brits are 60% European, the rest MENA
it isn't mena

you posted some 15 cluster bullshit

>> No.12718340

>>12718231
>grow a pair pinkie pie
so you admit, you are an asian man
so you admit you aren't here for any serious discussion, thanks for confirming all my points

>> No.12718347

>>12718231
you don't know how clustering works

>> No.12718360

>>12718308

I think you may be onto something with T CELLS.


also any time i mention evidence for covid being around mid 2019 people get unreasonably angry.

>> No.12718363

>>12718336

yeah no, sorry. russians have evident mongoloid admixture. most russians shouldn't be classed as european.

>> No.12718366

>>12718363
your own chart disagrees with you
learn to read before posting

again why are you mongoloids so obsessed with claiming europeans as asians?

>> No.12718367

>>12716916
You're ignoring the obesity

>> No.12718369

>>12718363
>>12718231
go back to aznidentity
no one cares

>> No.12718379

>>12718366
>>12718369

im not the OP lol. cope more /pol/tard

>> No.12718382

>>12718379
go back to aznidentity, OP

>> No.12718391

>>12718379
>uses the "c-cope" to cover up the fact he can't answer a a single point
of course

>> No.12718395

>>12718379
this is the result of high incelism among asian men in the west and the very high prevalence of WMAF couples
you guys are broken, imagine trying to find all day any excuse to post the same AMWF pics to trigger le whitys on 4chan

>> No.12718399

>>12716916
Covid is a weak bio-weapon version of a common flu variant. It was designed to target and change certain genetic markers. They are testing it on the population. Those fuckers. It can cause nerve damage in the lips and mouth as well as other long term effects.

>> No.12718400

>>12718382
>>12718391

im not the OP, cope more.

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>>12718399

evidence please, proofster rooster.

>> No.12718406

>>12718400
don't you have some WMAF posts to seethe over at aznidentity, OP?

>> No.12718407

>>12717065
yes, this is one of the stronger long term symptoms, and effects people across the melanin spectrum.

>> No.12718410

>>12718366
asian men obsess over white men all day, to the point they want to be the fathers of white men, that's why they post on /his/ all day and claim that asian men created whites or similar nonsense

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>>12718407
yep. maybe it spreads better in the warm climate of med nations and in the warm dampness of our lungs.

>> No.12718420

There is some really good information in this thread.

>>12717638
>>12717709
yes, bioweapon

>>12717709
>>12717765
>>12718245
>>12718258
>>12718282

There is something to this also. This is the first time I've seen it posted, not that I've been looking around for it, but me and a few others came to similar conclusion months ago, and now I'm seeing you post info about it.

October was the window we came up with, and there is reason to suspect it has some tie, connection, or interaction specific to vaping also.

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>>12718336
>>12718347
reality denial. All Europeans have massive Middle Eastern admixture via Anatolian farmers. This mixture is also more divergent than any mixture between paleolithic Asians/Europeans/Indians. Because the last 3, while different, are still part of the same Crown Eurasian clade.

Middle Eastern is an extremely divergent mix of Basal Eurasian and Crown Eurasian. And thus everything it colonized (Europe, Northern India) is also a highly divergent mix.

Paleolithic Anatolian, Iranian/Caucus, and South Arabian all formed a genetic clade to the exclusion of European HGs. Thus, they are all genetically Mideastern.

>>12718340
>>12718369
>>12718382
>>12718391
>>12718395
>>12718406
cry more

>>12718366
why are you so obsessed with denying reality? I am only stating what is fact. Am I an incel for stating that Iberians colonized all of Latin America and that Mexicans are mixed race? Nice doublethink you got there.

>>12718363
Russians have Mongoloid admixture, but they are also MORE European than anything in Western Europe.

Russians are mutted with a little bit of divergent Mongoloid
but Westerners are mutted with a LOT of even MORE divergent Basal.

The most European people on earth are Lithuanians, followed by all Balts, then Finns, and then Russians. Brits and Germans aren't even close, sorry.

>> No.12718436

>>12718405
Sorry no proofs this time, I'm offering that info a posteriori from personal experience and observation of self and those around me, and stories I've read of people's experiences with it. Take it as you will. I post it here because people with an open mind will consider the idea, and it likely matches observations others are having. Good of you to ask though.

>>12718415
not sure, but there is always a general trend of bacteriology and virology that says they thrive in warm, wet environments, so that's kinda par for the course.

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>>12718435
>Paleolithic Anatolian, Iranian/Caucus, and South Arabian all formed a genetic clade to the exclusion of European HGs. Thus, they are all genetically Mideastern.
the PCA proof for this one. Note that "Levant" and "Iran/Cauc" are closer than to "WHG".
South Arabian is not pictured but it regularly forms a clade with Levant so that's trivial

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For those discussing mongoloid gene migration and Europeans, the N gene basically marched all the way across the middle east, into Mongolia, and then back through Russia to Europe. You're going to see some admixture there.

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>>12718435
>reality denial. All Europeans have massive Middle Eastern admixture via Anatolian farmers
that's sardinian, not middle eastern, that's very different and if you know a bit of genetics you would have known that

only sardinians is equivalent genetically to ancient EEF, as you can see in pic related there's a jump in non sardinians(and those still aren't middle eastern)
this alone literally debunks all your rant

>> No.12718462

>>12716916
>low vitamin D
>european
>aged

It's like the ultimate boomer killer.

>> No.12718476

>>12718435
>reality denial.
not really, eef weren't middle easterners, literally look at any PCA in the world

>why are you so obsessed with denying reality?
your own chart confirmed that russians are on average 3% east aisans
you should read what you post, dawny

also i'm glad you are derailing your own thread, mongoloid

>> No.12718481

>>12718452
Holy fuck, the N haplogroup's been through some shit.

>> No.12718483
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>>12718328
Either this, or we're being slowly culled to alleviate the carbon burden.

>>12718360
Yup. NPCs. Gotta pump the China-bad narrative (they stil had something do with it but it clearly involved the US as well)

>>12718399
It has nothing to do with the flu. Several symptoms that are common to flu and colds are almost completely absent from COVID.

For example, a runny nose, or sneezing. The rest of your comment is possible sure.
Long term effects, AKA "long hauler covid" are EXTREMELY common. 35% of people do not feel the same after covid, picrel.

>>12718415
>>12718436
it's the opposite, warm and humid weather lessens spread. Which actually may be a partial cause for my OP

>>12718420
Well I think it's just that vaping compromises the lung mucosal barrier. Or something.
So people who vape are more likely to have lungs that "allow" covid to proliferate, instead of it just dying on contact. It would've been spreading since at least August.

>> No.12718487

>>12718320
>It's certainly not just a flu
Just tell me. Do you know anything about virology? Tell me how did they find the SARS-CoV-2 virus. I bet you are clueless.

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>>12718444
funny that you post this PCA
because it's derived form pic related

look where the EEF are, and than look where arabs are, a bit distant right?

>> No.12718498

>>12718405

these look like dams, not sires (males). males tend to have longer necks and stand taller. females are kinda round and stubby and yes females do get big red combs when they mature, particularly with this strain of chook in the factory setting.

>> No.12718502

>>12718435
>The most European people on earth are Lithuanians, followed by all Balts, then Finns, and then Russians
not really true, scandinavians are whiter than russians but a bit less than baltics

and other north(both western and eastern) are extremely close to all of them
so sorry you are out of luck ricecel
stop obsessing over europeans

>> No.12718513

>>12716916
cuckedricecels can't engage in normal conversations without sounding autistic

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>>12718435
meds catch the coronachan easier because of the brown genes

>> No.12718527

>>12718483

i suspect its due to muh carbon emissions. that would be the bottom line.

>> No.12718528

>>12718481
hahaha, yeah I know right?, it's the only one to really do anything like that, and I've never researched it, but I've always wondered about it. What caused it to do that and so on.

>>12718483
the reason I said it was a variant. corona virus is a known common strain in general, but yes, something is different about it. I do agree there is something to the long hauler covid and not being the same after. The death rate is low in the short term but it does mess you up. I had it, and I'm not the same.

>> No.12718531

>>12718460
cope, Sardinian is a combo of WHG and Levant/Anatolian
>only sardinians is equivalent genetically to ancient EEF

Yes, because the Anatolian_N samples were partially WHG to begin with.

Additionally the rest of the Mideast was conquered MASSIVELY by Iranians and South Arabians. The latter doesn't matter so much since it's so close, but Iranians are pretty distant.

Even if Iranians are in the same clade, something that's 50:50: Iran:Levant is going to be less related than something that's 20:80 WHG:Levant.

>>12718476
>not really, eef weren't middle easterners, literally look at any PCA in the world
EEF were a combination of MENAs and pure Europeans (WHG)

>your own chart confirmed that russians are on average 3% east aisans
7% Siberian, 2% Chinese-like (from Mongols), and a few more % each of Chukchi-like and American-like. Combine all of it together it's ~10%. I'll be nice and say it's 8%, are you happy?

>derailing your own thread
It was about WHG related ancestry in the first place lmao. Short term memory fizzling?

>> No.12718540

>>12718483

theres almost no covid in my country (we're cut off from the world) and they are starting vaccinations in 4 days. astrazennca vaccine only protects against severe infection and death but not moderate and mild illness. does this mean if i get astra vaccine im still fucked and could become one of these long-hauler cucks? if so, fuck my government for not getting pfizer. all so they could get rich. obviously our government has access to pfizer and only like 130,000 people here so the rest of us are stuck with the shitty astra vacc.

>> No.12718546

>>12718531
>cope, Sardinian is a combo of WHG and Levant/Anatolian
the chart that i showed disagrees with you
overall sardinians are the only thing close to EEF while arabs are very distant
this is reality, this debunks everything you said

>Even if Iranians are in the same clade, something that's 50:50: Iran:Levant is going to be less related than something that's 20:80 WHG:Levant.
>Additionally the rest of the Mideast was conquered MASSIVELY by Iranians and South Arabians. The latter doesn't matter so much since it's so close, but Iranians are pretty distant.
bullshits and cope,

>>12718489
>>12718460
this debunks your entire argument, don't matter how much words you use, go back to aznidentity

>> No.12718547
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12718547

>>12718452
I can't tell if this is a cope or just misinformed but I'll bite anyway:
1) N has nothing to do with Mongolia. It comes from China or SEAsia, Mongolia was C

2) N comes from K2a, which comes from K2, from K, from IJK, which TECHNICALLY comes from the Middle East.
However, the carriers of this marker were NOT genetically similar to the present day inhabitants of the Middle East.

We have two 42,000 year old K2a carriers, located in Romania and West Siberia respectively, (Oase and Ust Ishim) who are equidistant between East and West Eurasians, and cluster closely together despite their huge distance. We also have East Eurasians with K2b from 40,000 years ago, and West Eurasians with C from 33,000 years ago.

Which strongly suggests that IJK came from a neutral population in the Middle East, (Crown Eurasian but not east-west differentiated) and it colonized pre-existing East Eurasians, resulting in the 40,000 year old Tianyuan Man. Later on the IJ branch of IJK colonized pre-existing West Eurasians, resulting in everything that came after the Goyet cluster 33,000 years ago.

N expanded from China into Siberia, and slowly migrated along the Arctic coastline until it expanded into Finland 3,000 years ago, post-dating the Aryan invasion of Europe.

Pic related is the PCA of Oase and Ust Ishim, both 42,000 year old K2a carriers. The black and red dots in the middle.

>> No.12718554

>>12718489
>modern Arabs
irrelevant, modern Arabs are 5% African. Obviously that pulls them away more.

>> No.12718557

>>12718531
>7% Siberian, 2% Chinese-like (from Mongols), and a few more % each of Chukchi-like and American-like. Combine all of it together it's ~10%. I'll be nice and say it's 8%, are you happy?
total east asian admixture it's 3% you stupid chink, even your retarded charts gives them 3% or something nganassan that are mixed too, so even less

>EEF were a combination of MENAs and pure Europeans (WHG)
oh god chink stop saying things you know nothing about

>> No.12718560

>>12718554
if ancient arabs were sardinian genetically and not modern arabs they weren't arabs in the first place but europeans
so congratulations you debunked your own argument

>> No.12718565

>>12718547
>N comes from K2a, which comes from K2, from K, from IJK, which TECHNICALLY comes from the Middle East.
What are you on? it’s from the Himalaya region.

>> No.12718575

>>12718540
>theres almost no covid in my country (we're cut off from the world) and they are starting vaccinations in 4 days. astrazennca vaccine only protects against severe infection and death but not moderate and mild illness
The vaccine doesn’t protect. They claim it possibly prevents severe causes of disease.

>> No.12718578
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12718578

>>12718502
>>12718513
>not really true, scandinavians are whiter than russians but a bit less than baltics
>whiter
irrelevant brainlet term. The "whitest" people are mutted Brits and Irish. pic related. pigmentation has nothing to do with ancestry

Scandinavians and Russians have similar amounts of European ancestry, but Scandinavians have much more of the divergent Basal. Thus Russians are more European.

Of course Scandinavians are much closer than mainland westerners. But nice try

>> No.12718585

>>12718565
It could come from India too, nobody really knows. Somewhere from the Mideast to India. It doesn't really matter because the geography is separate from the genetics.

>> No.12718589

>>12718578
ahahah that pic isn't true retard

>> No.12718593

>>12718575

i meant to say that pfizer is more likely to prevent illness but astra can only prevent severe illness. so when they open everything up and everyones vaccinated we're still gonna have a population of cripples.

>> No.12718607
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12718607

>>12718487
>the pandemic is fake
this isn't the schizoid board

>>12718513
slide

>>12718546
You realize when I say things like "Iranian" "South Arabian" "WHG" I'm talking about paleolithic samples right? Not the mixed mutted up people who inhabit the region now.

Also learn how to add, holy shit.

>>12718557
>total east asian admixture it's 3%
You have macular degeneration.
>EEF isn't part MENA
You are also denying the most BASIC facts of population genetics. I don't debate kangz, I ignore them.

>>12718560
>if Europe gets nuked and invaded by Maghrebis, ancient Rome is now posthumously American because that's where all the whites live now
no.

>> No.12718617
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12718617

>>12718607
>You have macular degeneration.
they have 3% east asian total
cope somewhere else ricecel

>> No.12718620

>>12718607
>if Europe gets nuked and invaded by Maghrebis, ancient Rome is now posthumously American because that's where all the whites live now
ok so when you said "arabs" you meant "sardinians"
so you were saying that europeans are part sardinians and not part "modern arab"

thank you for clearing that up, i agree with you than

>> No.12718622
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12718622

>>12718367
This.
/thread

Fuck off

>> No.12718627

>>12718585
Nope it’s pretty clear. And their genetic imprint are very strong in Europeans. Somewhat strong in Tibetans. And rather weak in high cast Indians and Persians.
Also if you are >>12717682
answer >>12718256

>> No.12718629

>>12718607
>You realize when I say things like "Iranian" "South Arabian" "WHG" I'm talking about paleolithic samples right? Not the mixed mutted up people who inhabit the region now.
yes retard
and sardinians overall are modern arabs, and eef weren't modern sandniggers, hence your argument is debunked

>> No.12718632

>>12718607
>this isn't the schizoid board
You are a fraud and you know it tell me how do you characterize a bacteriophage.
I pet you don’t know it.

>> No.12718639

>>12718607
you sound very angry and insecure
did you see a WMAF ad that made you angry lately?

>> No.12718640
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12718640

>>12718481
>>12718528
the N haplogroup isn't that special, pretty much everything from the sub-K2 clade had massive journeys like that.

K2b for instance was first found in Beijing 40,000 years ago in the Tianyuan Man sample.
Then 33,000 years ago in the Yana samples from Siberia.
24,000 years ago in Mal'ta Boy
10,000ish years ago in many EHG (east europe foragers)
and finally 5000 years ago in the Yamnaya, and through the Aryan invasion now found in all of Europe and Northern India.

>the reason I said it was a variant.
flu isn't caused by coronaviruses though
long haul covid: I've read about links to Mast Cell dysfunction. I've also seen proof of viral persistence in mice.

My opinion is that long haulers have latent virus stuck in their brains/GI tract, and that it reactivates intermittently.

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/new-study-shows-covid-19-could-hide-your-brain-reactivate-down-road/IVXL7FVCPBHKXE25TY3YILBAGM/

>>12718540
>does this mean if i get astra vaccine im still fucked and could become one of these long-hauler cucks?
Definitely possible. There is zero research into vaccine effects on long haulerism.
I've seen polls from the long haul reddit, and Pfizer comes up much worse than Moderna. Sample of around 50ish people.

AZ is a traditional vaccine though, so that might be "reassuring". I don't know, I'm not taking any vaccine.

>>12718575
>The vaccine doesn’t protect.
It should protect people from dying, if the data is real. Though who knows anymore at this point.

No idea if it prevents the common long-haul syndrome in younger people. So it may be useless for young people.

I think for young people who have already had covid, the vaccine is probably worse than useless.

>> No.12718644

>>12718629
*and sardinians overall aren't modern arabs

>> No.12718670
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12718670

>>12718617
You realize english people have Eastern admixture built in too, right?
It's why English (and all Aryan invasion ethnicities) cluster to the east of Sardinians, see picture

>>12718620
>ok so when you said "arabs" you meant "sardinians"
No, I meant the South Arabian admixture, which peaks in modern Arabs (although they are now mutted with African and Iranian)

>so you were saying that europeans are part sardinians and not part "modern arab"
No, I was saying that modern euros, including Sardinians, are massively paleo-Levantine, via Levant --> Anatolia --> EEF

The paleolithic Levantine part of that ancestry forms a clade with paleolithic Iranian and South Arabian. Thus, all modern Europeans are massively Middle Eastern. Modern Middle Easterners are mostly Middle Eastern, plus divergent African (Saudi), or Indian (modern Iran/Caucasian), or even Asian (Turkey)

>>12718629
>eef weren't modern sandniggers
why should I care about modern mixed mutts? Modern Mexicans, Arabs, and Europeans (among others) are all mixed race. The past defines the future, not vice versa.

>> No.12718675

>>12718670
>literal memechart made by some anon based on some 90s fst shit study and some mishmash of other things
OKAY LOL

>> No.12718683

>>12718670
>why should I care about modern mixed mutts? Modern Mexicans, Arabs, and Europeans (among others) are all mixed race. The past defines the future, not vice versa.
europeans aren't mixed race tho, we are a mixture or close people, eef whg and yamnaya were all relatively close, keep coping shitskin

>>12718489
see here, they were closer to each other than eurpeans are to arabs, you can't deny that

>> No.12718684

>>12718640
>the N haplogroup isn't that special, pretty much everything from the sub-K2 clade had massive journeys like that.
Just stop it. Your theories are nuts. Just try to source your stuff.
>flu isn't caused by coronaviruses though
long haul covid: I've read about links to Mast Cell dysfunction. I've also seen proof of viral persistence in mice.
You don’t say it’s Influenza A B and C related sequence motives.
>it’s shown in mice
Hilarious. Because mice aren’t even claimed to be susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 . I‘m somebody with in depth knowledge relating to Virology and Genetics. I will call you out until everybody realizes it.
>long COVID-19
Good one.
>It should protect people from dying, if the data is real
That’s is t even what the producers claim. Try again.

>> No.12718687

>>12718670
>No, I was saying that modern euros, including Sardinians, are massively paleo-Levantine, via Levant --> Anatolia --> EEF
again, did those people resemble modern sardinians and not modern arabs?
if yes, europeans aren't part arab but part sardinians, you just changed the names, so you debunked your argument

>> No.12718690

>>12718670
that's a memechart

>why should I care about modern mixed mutts?
you are one yourself

>> No.12718691

To anybody, who has no background in genetics the claims are ridiculous and the papers linked aren’t serious.

>> No.12718697

>>12718691
OP doesn’t even know. How the mainstream narrative allegedes something could be created in the lab.
He is making everything up.

>> No.12718709

>>12718578
wow, a self reported "study" with a sample size of 20 people per country max

>> No.12718713

>>12718670
what is your point exactly?
basal eurasians are literally from 50000 years ago
if you go that far everyone is mutt

what race are you?

>> No.12718715
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12718715

>>12718683
>europeans aren't mixed race tho, we are a mixture or close people
Basal and West Eurasian are ANYTHING but close. Nice try tho.

>>12718684
My theories actually are almost completely in agreement with what mainstream anthros and population geneticists say.
They're just extremely politically incorrect on the internet due to white identity politics--it's the white equivalent of blacks pretending that ancient Egyptians were Sub-Saharan Negroids. So I will always shamelessly oppose this propaganda.

>long COVID doesn't exist
oh, you're actually retarded, my bad

>>12718687
>again, did those people resemble modern sardinians and not modern arabs?
yes.
>if yes, europeans aren't part arab but part sardinians, you just changed the names, so you debunked your argument
keep up the cope wigger. "Mexicans are not part Iberian, they're just Mexicans"

>>12718690
cope
>you are one yourself
yes, just to a much lesser extent than you.

>>12718691
>people who don't understand anything don't understand anything
we've got a genius over here.

>> No.12718724

>>12718713
>if you go that far everyone is mutt
not really.

For instance, the peoples of East/North Africa would be the most extensively mutted, being a mix of pretty much all the pictured groups here >>12718435.

The peoples of the Mideast would be next.
Followed by the peoples of North India and South/West Europe.
Followed by South India and East Europe.
Followed finally by Asia, Oceania, and Native Americans

>> No.12718729

>>12718715
>Basal and West Eurasian are ANYTHING but close. Nice try tho.
what the fuck are you talking about?

i said eef, whg and yamnaya were relatively close to each other as any pca confirms
>>12718489

you ydna haplogroup chart literally changes and proves nothing

>> No.12718734

>>12718715
Post your sources.

>> No.12718740

>>12718715
>yes.
ok so europeans are part sardinians that are different form modern arab and you basically just changed some names here and there, thank you for clearing that up

>keep up the cope wigger. "Mexicans are not part Iberian, they're just Mexicans"
apple and oranges comparisons
americanians and iberians are very different
all the people europeans are comprised of are pretty similar overall

>> No.12718742

>>12718729
>i said eef, whg and yamnaya were relatively close to each other as any pca confirms
which is irrelevant since EEF and Yamnaya were extensively mixed race.

>what is Basal Eurasian
see pic >>12718435

Basal is a divergent ancestry that is further away from East and West Eurasians than they are from each other. Paleolithic Asians, Europeans, and Indians were more related to each other, than to anything Basal.

Today, Basal admixture is only found in Western Eurasia.

>> No.12718745

>>12718715
>cope
that's a memechart tho literally read the up right corner, tard

>haploshit chart when talking about admixture
that's also a memechart in this context

>> No.12718746

>>12718715
>Basal and West Eurasian are ANYTHING but close. Nice try tho
Using Basal without defining it. It’s getting more and more ridiculous.

>> No.12718749

>>12718742
>>what is Basal Eurasian
i already know and didn't ask
stop trying to sound intelligent

>which is irrelevant since EEF and Yamnaya were extensively mixed race.
so you admit they were all similar to each other

>> No.12718750
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12718750

>>12718740
>ok so europeans are part sardinians
No, modern Europeans are part Levantine. Sardinians are 80% Levantine, 20% European.

>americanians and iberians are very different
So were Basals and West Eurasians.

>> No.12718752

>>12718715
>hits pipe
>my theories are completely mainstream in people with DMT experiences
Sure thing.

>> No.12718755

>>12718742
>which is irrelevant since EEF and Yamnaya were extensively mixed race.
they were pretty close to whg overall so basically not

>> No.12718757

>>12718750
>No, modern Europeans are part Levantine. Sardinians are 80% Levantine,
you literally said yes and admitted it yourself retard

are you backtracking now?

>> No.12718765

>>12718724
no, basically everyone is a mutt if you go that far except some tribal people in africa

do you think asians spawned out of nowhere?

>> No.12718767

>>12718715
You didn’t even know mice don’t express ACE-2. Pull your clown show off somewhere else.

>> No.12718783

>>12718750
why stopping at 50000 years ago, let's go back at when the denisovans mixed with modern humans and created the modern east asian and abos

see asians are mutts

>> No.12718791
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12718791

>>12718783
>>12718750
look at these mutted east asians, they have both among the highest concentrations of neanderthal and denisovan admixture in the world

>> No.12718808

>>12718783
>>12718791
Neanderthal and Denisovan belong to the same clade. They are the same non-sapiens ancestry. And Denisovan ancestry is only appreciable in Oceania and Malaysia. In the rest of Asia it's less than a fraction of a percent.

If you're going back that far, then modern Arabians are the most Sapiens and unmutted. Europeans are just one tenth of one percentage point less Neanderthal than we are.

>> No.12718811
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12718811

>>12718808
>>12718791

>> No.12718815

>>12718808
>Neanderthal and Denisovan belong to the same clade. they are extremely distant to each other and you know it

>If you're going back that far, then modern Arabians are the most Sapiens and unmutted. Europeans are just one tenth of one percentage point less Neanderthal than we are.
why not go that far back?
you are talking about populations from 50000 years ago that have no modern equivalent
see how arabians went from the most to least mutted

>> No.12718817

>>12718811
it's still extremely distant, that's why they are classified as two different subspecies
don't cover your ass

>> No.12718826
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12718826

>>12718815
>see how arabians went from the most
the most in his mind

he's a retard
literally just look at any global pca, they are among the least mutted, indians, central asians and all the people that are between europeans east asians negros and africans are much more "mutted"

>> No.12718831

>>12718697
It still stands.

>> No.12718835
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12718835

>>12718745
>everything I don't like is a meme
dropped

>>12718746
>>12718749
>30-50% Basal mixture don't real
dropped

>>12718752
yeah sorry, man. Actual geneticists for the most part just follow the facts.

The reality is that wiggers on 4chan/reddit are triggered by facts that aren't pro-european.

Pop geneticists agree that the K2 marker came from Eastern Eurasia, at a time when the inhabitants were autosomally Eastern.

>>12718755
>they were pretty close to whg overall
no. You have no idea what you're talking about.
https://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-holocene-alien-years/

The distance between EEFs and WHGs was almost twice as large as the distance between Dravidians and French.

>>12718757
You keep trying to define the past using the present, instead of vice versa so that you can cope by saying Levantine admixture is "European".

This is equivalent to saying Spanish admixture is "Mexican". It is false and anti-reality. You are a wewuzzer.

>>12718765
>>12718765
>everyone is a mutt
yes. but not equally mutted.
>except some tribal people in africa
no, even africans are mutts. Pure Sapiens no longer exist, the closest analog is in Arabia or maybe East Africa, depending on whether East Afris have the archaic non-Sapien African ancestry.

>> No.12718840

>>12718815
>why not go that far back?
Okay, let's go that far back.

Europeans are 2.1% Neandersovan.
Asians are 2.2% Neandersovan.
Arabs are 2.0% Neandersovan.

Europeans are 30% Basal.
Asians are 0% Basal.
Arabs are 60% Basal.

>> No.12718841

>>12718835
>dropped
it's a literal memechart made by some anon on 4chan, literally just look at the top corner

>> No.12718845
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12718845

>>12718826
>literally just look at any global pca
brainlet tier, globals omit ancient data.

You have to add in the ancient data to see how mutted all modern westerners are. There are no pure west Eurasians left. There are about 2 billion pure east Eurasians left.

>> No.12718848

>>12718840
this isn't the own against white men you think it is
"basal" is too far back doesn't have any modern equivalent
it's like saying, lol you are sapiens

>yes. but not equally mutted.
correct, east asians seem to be the most mutted

>> No.12718850
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12718850

>>12718835
>no. You have no idea what you're talking about.
except i do

>> No.12718856

>>12718817
yeah, and the difference in admixture is 0.1%
as opposed to 50%

>>12718841
it's irrelevant. I'll humor your double digit claim anyway, here's one from a recent study>>12718845

>> No.12718859

>>12716916
Reminder that 4chan is under CCP control.

>> No.12718862

>>12718835
>You keep trying to define the past using the present, instead of vice versa so that you can cope by saying Levantine admixture is "European".
because that's what matters you complete low IQ retard

you admitted that when you said "middle eastern", you were talking about sardinian-like admixture hence you basically said that europeans are part sardinians

>> No.12718871

>>12718856
>yeah, and the difference in admixture is 0.1% as opposed to 50%
that 50% is from people that are very close if compared to that 0.1%
so it makes east asians more mutted

>> No.12718874

>>12718845
oh, god why are self hating shitskins so much into pseudo science?

>> No.12718878
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12718878

>>12718848
>"basal" is too far back doesn't have any modern equivalent
it literally invaded you 5000 years ago via the Aryans. And 8000 years ago via the Anatolian farmers. That's not very long ago.

Meanwhile there are Asian samples with full continuity with moderns, from that same timescale, like Devils Gate neolithic.

>>12718850
LMAO
just use your fingers
it doesn't go all the way to Mala Dravidians because some of the ancient distance is due to isolation and isn't race-specific. But okay, you got upgraded from being as different as Dravidians, to being as different as Pakis.

>> No.12718879

>>12718871
what he's saying is not even true btw
literally just the rambling of a shizoid

>> No.12718882

>>12718878
>it literally invaded you 5000 years ago via the Aryans
those weren't the same people anymore they were close to whg
>. And 8000 years ago via the Anatolian farmers.
read above

>> No.12718886

>>12718878
>it doesn't go all the way to Mala Dravidians because some of the ancient distance is due to isolation and isn't race-specific. But okay, you got upgraded from being as different as Dravidians, to being as different as Pakis
not true, also funny that you backtracked lol
you backtracked a lot here

>> No.12718887
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12718887

>>12718874
>>12718871
>>12718862
cope wiggers

>> No.12718890

>>12718887
>c-cope, i-i'm very intelligent
lol

>> No.12718894

>>12718887
>posts pseudoscience

>> No.12718900

>>12718887
Reminder that polygenic scores in intelligence are only able to capture about 2% of the variance in IQ

>> No.12718906

>>12718878
>Meanwhile there are Asian samples with full continuity with moderns, from that same timescale, like Devils Gate neolithic.
all europeans are pretty similar to those populations
if you put whg and modern europeans in a global pca they would be very very close
we are really talking about small differences overall

also asians aren't homogeneous in any
the difference between siberians and chinese is bigger than the different between europeans and arabs

>> No.12718908

>>12718886
>>12718882
>>12718879
reality deniers

>> No.12718909
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>In one study of 122 patients, 79 per cent of men who tested positive in three Madrid hospitals were bald. It was published in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology. An earlier study of 41 patients in Spain found 71 per cent were bald.
>The background rate of baldness in white men of a similar age to those studied is between 31 and 53 per cent - a significant drop.
European men are the most likely group to be bald.

>> No.12718911

>>12718908
dude, go being a clown somewhere else

>> No.12718918
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>>12718900
>>12718894
>>12718890
more reality deniers.

>>12718906
No they aren't, they're a mix of them. On the Asian side there's total continuity.

>if you put whg and modern europeans in a global pca they would be very very close
no. relative to the far east sure. the entire south of europe would cluster closer to Anatolia_N

Asians are quite homogeneous.
Yes Siberians are more divergent because they have western-like ANE ancestry on the female line.

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>>12718911
>clown
isn't that an anti-white slur?

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>>12718918
>No they aren't, they're a mix of them. On the Asian side there's total continuity.
they are extremely different

also your 3d pca shows them being very different
look where yakut and other siberians are, literally extremely distant if compared to europeans that seem very homogeneous instead

>> No.12718935

>>12718928
I was talking about the continuity between neolithic Northern Chinese/Southern Siberia, not mainstream Siberians like Yakut

>> No.12718936

>>12718918
>no. relative to the far east sure. the entire south of europe would cluster closer to Anatolia_N
relative to anything
if you put them on a global pca they would be pretty close, you are talking about small differences in the grand scheme of things

>no. relative to the far east sure. the entire south of europe would cluster closer to Anatolia_N
look at the pca you posted
europeans are all close to each other and whg would be more or less there, a little bit divergent bu definitely less than asians, look where buryat, mongold and altai are

>> No.12718952

>>12718935
but the devil cave that you mentioned are closer to those people than to modern chinese

so considering that those people are very distant, more than whg are to europeans that would make chinese very mutted by your definition

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>>12718952
but the devil cave that you mentioned are closer to those people than to modern chinese

so considering that those people are very distant, more than whg are to europeans that would make chinese very mutted by your definition

>> No.12718956

>>12718936
Just look at the spatial pattern.

modern westerners are a messy loose cluster.
easterners segregate into neatly organized pyramidal poles.

that's because caucasoids are highly mixed between European (WHG) and MENA (Levant_N, Iran N, Natufian-like)

mongoloids are much less mixed, so they preserve spatial segregation. if WHG and company still existed, you'd see similar geometry. simple

>> No.12718963

>>12718956
>modern westerners are a messy loose cluster.
they look pretty similar

>that's because caucasoids are highly mixed between European (WHG) and MENA (Levant_N, Iran N, Natufian-like)
but in the grand scheme of things whg and eef aren't that distant
like mongolians and chinese in your chart are more distant than any european is distant to each other

>> No.12718966

>>12718963
>like mongolians and chinese in your chart are more distant than any european is distant to each other
true. Because europeans are very mixed, lessening the intra-western distance.

>> No.12718970

>>12718956
>Just look at the spatial pattern.
this is nonsense, they are pretty similar as far as clusters go
your pca shows that europeans are indeed pretty homogeneous
the mongolians you ricecels love to larp as are more distant form han chinese than europeans are to arabs

>> No.12718974

>>12718966
>true. Because europeans are very mixed, lessening the intra-western distance.
this is gigacope
so they are more distant because they are closer, please

>> No.12718982

>>12718918
look at how far nganassans are, siberians are literally another race

>> No.12718987

>>12718982
east asians in general don't seem to be very homogeneous

>> No.12718989

>>12716916
Obesity.

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>>12718987
true
they also don't have much continuity compared to the past
china was mostly populated with individuals such as this one at a certain point

>> No.12719015

>>12719001
>>12718987
look at northern chinese from the neolithic
true sons of han

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>>12719015

>> No.12719038

>>12716916
> r=0.58
> significant
Damn, that's about as nonsignificant as you can get.
> P=0.03
In whose fucked up definition of statistics does an r of 0.58 equate to a P of 0.03?

>> No.12719039

>>12716916
If you've got shit genes you're susceptible to becoming sick.

>> No.12719041

>>12719019
>>12719001
chinks evolved from abbos
tianyuan was basically some kind of AASI, as you can see he was closer to adamanese and indian tribals that are mostly AASI

>>12719019
than they asianized, as you can see a lot of chinks were still similar to modern thai(or in certain cases to siberioids that are abbo shifted as you can see by the pca provided by our resident chink >>12718918) that are basically part AASI and than they became modern chinks

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>>12719019
here another pure northern chinese from the early neolithic

>> No.12719065

>>12718987
>east asians in general don't seem to be very homogeneous
t. macular degeneration

>> No.12719074

>>12719041
>tianyuan was basically some kind of AASI
pretty much yea

Indo-Oceanians conquered Mongoloids
then those offspring conquered Europoids

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>>12719065
and nanai are closer to abbo shifted siberians much closer to people like mangola than han chinese
hence making the han mutts

>> No.12719083

>>12719074
>then those offspring conquered Europoids
not true

you already got superbtfo in this thread
you went from pure han chinese continuity to abomutts

>> No.12719089

>>12719079
it's so simple.

http://faculty.scs.illinois.edu/~mcdonald/PCA84pops.html

Just look at the western and "southeast asian" poles.
the western one is cluttered because it's heavily mixed from pure groups that don't exist anymore.
the eastern one is organized into distinct poles because it is less mixed.

Because western Eurasia is heavily mutted with divergent Basal Eurasian ancestry.

>> No.12719092

>>12719083
cringe reality denier.
arguing with double digit IQs is getting tiresome though.

>> No.12719098

>>12719089
>Just look at the western and "southeast asian" poles. yes they are much distant than any europeans, because you are mutts

>the western one is cluttered because it's heavily mixed from pure groups that don't exist anymore.
literal cope haha

>> No.12719101

>>12719089
you are much more mutted than europeans look how much spread out you chink are

>> No.12719104

>>12719092
whg would be more or less there, the mixture we are made of is people that were pretty similar, they weren't the same, but in a global scale the difference is laughable

your ancestor from tinyuan on the other hand, a literal AASI abbo lol

>> No.12719133

>>12719089
based mongols
i always knew they weren't chinks, they are basically more distant from chinks than european are from arabs

most of the people genghis allegedly killed were han chinese
based yuan dynasty

>> No.12719135

>>12716916
Asian Americans have ~5 IQ higher than average whites. Avg whites have ~10-15 IQ higher than Avg blacks.

>> No.12719156

>>12719133
lol it's always funny when you see a ricecel trying to larp as a mongol, a lot of the time it's not even a chink but a SEA 1/4 abbo making it even worse

>> No.12719160

This thread is a perfect example of science divorced from philosophy.

>> No.12719184

>>12716916

>white
rs2243250 = polish
rs1800896 = Iranian
rs1800896 = taiwanese
rs1544410 = egyptian
rs1800629 = South and West Asian
rs1805015 = India (sinnar/rigdad)
OP = Faggot

>> No.12719188

>>12716916
Do asian people's farts stink?

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>>12719133
>>12719104
>>12719101
>>12719098
>>12719160
>>12719156

>> No.12719195

>>12719104
AASI abbos are fine though? Asians Indians Abbos Europeans are all brother groups

Basals are not

>> No.12719203

>>12719195
> Asians Indians Abbos Europeans are all brother groups
i think you gotta take a look again at your pca my friend

whg would be up there close to baltics
much more distant form you bleached abbo and your black skinned ancestors

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>>12719203
you're trying too hard, rapespawn.

>> No.12719207

>>12719195
>brothers
>on the other side of the pca
pick one chink

you really are grasping at straws
not my fault you are mutts and your abbo ancestors were super distant genetically from you

>> No.12719211

>>12719206
ahahahahahah
also

admixture=/=haplogroup
AASI, chinks and whg are all genetically extremely distant and on opposite ends or pcas, or are you gonna deny this too?

>> No.12719223

>>12719207
>>12719211
>basal eurasian isn't on the PCA because it doesn't exist anymore
>regularly comes up as a distinct group in phylogenetic analyses
try harder, mutt.

>admixture=/=haplogroup
no shit, it just means that your great-great-grandpappy was some type of pajeet.

>>12719211
>are all genetically extremely distant and on opposite ends or pcas, or are you gonna deny this too?
Basal would be even more genetically distant, similar to Bantus or San.

>> No.12719228

>>12719223
>try harder, mutt.
you seem to avoid answering

whg would be close to baltics in that pca, so extremely distant form you chinks and abbos

>inbefore he responds with something unrelated as always

>> No.12719229

>>12717331
I also have seen this as well. As genetic alteration becomes accessible you will see whites everywhere. wealthy Blacks will have white children for shits and giggles and vice versa. Of course, then skin color will be lost as a means of social ladder, which will be easily and quickly replaced by altered > unaltered. It will happen, and probably before 2030.

>> No.12719230

>>12719223
>Basal would be even more genetically distant, similar to Bantus or San.
whg would be close to eurpeans, close to baltics to be exact
so i don't know why you make these apple and oranges comparisons

i'm talking about whg not basal
try following the argument next time

>> No.12719235

>>12719229
in the end europeans will win like this
not only the women even the men will have white daughters because they are obsessed with white women, china will become bleaching central

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>>12719206
>you-a twying too haad, wapespawn.

>> No.12719246

>>12719235
it will be in phases I am sure, similar to fashion. For example at one point black skin with traditionally white features will be fashionable and there will be a deluge of them.
it will be a very fascinating time to live in, for sure. My only sadness as my oldest son has autism, it isn't too bad, no freakouts, pretty smart kid etc, but he clearly struggles with language. Would that he could one day be healed, but from what i've seen designer babies will come into play [due to demand] much quicker than healing those who are already afflicted.
feelsbadman.jpg

>> No.12719248

>>12716916
Because it's a fucking bioweapon, obviously.
It's meant to cripple the lungs of whites in the long term. That's why you have nurses now saying they see even asymptomatic cases having worse lung X rays than long term smokers. Nobody notices and then they're fucked for life.
Everyone except China, that is.
Nuke China. Just kill em all.

>> No.12719262

>>12719248
>nurses
they are retarded, i was an asymptomatic case and my CXR is all normal. Don't buy the fuckin hype faggot.

>> No.12719275

>>12716916
>significant positive correlation (r=0.58, P=0.03)
>significant
>retrospective cohort study
Cool term paper, Pajeet.

>> No.12719284

>>12719262
It's doctors saying this, and X ray machines don't lie no matter how stupid a nurse is. Something like 70% of asymptomatic cases are getting lung scarring.
>virus comes out in China near lab
>China locks down Wuhan, doesn't stop Chinese citizens leaving internationally though
>Chinese New Year means millions of chinks now flooding foreign countries
>pressures foreign countries to open borders when they close them to China
>starts buying up foreign businesses and banks during the dip
>data shows virus much more aggressive with whites
>large chance of long term effects and lung scarring, probably crippling western economies for years to come
At what point do we wake the fuck up and start figuring out the obvious here? When every single one of these facts works to China's advantage maybe we should exercise some common sense.

>> No.12719298

>>12719284
Why would China need to unleash a bioweapon to destroy whites and risk drawing the ire of the entire international community when they can just wait for us to destroy ourselves on our own?

>> No.12719299

Because covid-19 is an engineered bioweapon, and world governments are intentionally avoiding all evidence that this is true because they are too spineless to go to war with China over it.

>> No.12719307

>>12719299
They've gone on regime-changing crusades for far less. It would be a perfect excuse to dismantle the CCP and take control of the country.

>> No.12719308

>>12717709
>But there are also extremely suspicious circumstances surrounding Fort Detrick, the mystery vaping pneumonia, the higher amount of non-vape respiratory illness in July
No, because those had totally different symptoms to coronavirus. This is why it was not taken seriously as a suggestion.

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>>12719284
>>12719248
>Something like 70% of asymptomatic cases are getting lung scarring.
It's funny. Western doctors know nothing about physiology for the most part. I remember in the beginning of the pandemic all the poids were like "sheeeeit, this happy hypoxia shouldn't exist, it's literally impossible!"

happy hypox = when your O2 dips to the 80s and lower, but you are still fully conscious.

What they don't understand is that nitric oxide combats the feeling of hypoxia, allowing O2 to dip really low with people still being fully conscious.

This is also why you see sporadic cases of asymptomatic COVIDs dropping dead in the middle of the day. Like that woman who dropped dead while putting her child in a carseat or whatever. They walk around with high nitric oxide, their O2 going down to the 70s and 60s without them noticing. If they exert too much, it drops fatally low, into the 30s/20s, and then they just die out of nowhere.

I would bet that a HUGE percentage of "asymptomatic" people are walking around inches from death. If they're not checking on an oximeter, they have no idea.

Best part is all signs point to your government helping us do it in the early stages.
>>12719235
>>12719229
>>12719246
I hope we don't bleach ourselves into whiteness like we did to the Finns

>>12719228
>>12719241
wigger

>> No.12719316

>>12719310
>I hope we don't bleach ourselves into whiteness like we did to the Finns
wow another meme

>wigger
i see no answer

>> No.12719319

>>12718231
I cannot wait to commit war crimes against your people

>> No.12719322

>>12719310
you really can't let it go can you

i guess it's a win, whg are similar to modern europeans, thank you for admitting it

>> No.12719329

>>12719310
imaging camping the thread to respond to anyone that insult the great nation of bleached abbos

>> No.12719331
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>>12719307
>>12719298
you're really naive. white leaders have never cared about their governed. it's an inborn feature of non-Mongoloids. It's why only we can execute communistic regimes successfully.

if China makes a deal with Elon Bezos to divvy up the US, then China benefits. Elon Bezos benefit because they are selfish individualistic caucasoids.

Look at what happened during the neolithic, across the entire globe. Shortly after farming started, male Y chromosome diversity plummeted. Only 1 male reproduced for every 17 females, this was an incel BONANZA. The elites know this on an instinctive, unconscious level. They don't care of China gets California, if it means that Elon-Bezos-Gates can inherit the entire eastern US for them and their harems in the post-apocalypse.

>> No.12719333

>>12719310
That's wrong, we know full well that's possible and we have known about this for a long time. It's well known that this can occur in people with lung damage.

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>>12719329
>>12719322
>>12719319
>>12719316
at least one of these comments is a wigger samefag

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>>12716916
Whites have shit genes. Get over it.

>> No.12719337

>>12719333
>That's wrong, we know full well that's possible
yea, maybe the 5% of actually capable doctors know that
the majority don't because they're just symptom correlating automatons who are outperformed by machine learning. There are articles all over the place from March 2020 detailing their disbelief.

>> No.12719339

>>12719331
>europe spreading their ydna more 2 times as much as chins and their mtdna 2 times less than chinks
i call it based

>> No.12719343

>>12719334
>noooo, people are calling me out on my lies, it much be one boogieman
go to bed chink

>> No.12719344

>>12719337
You can find an article saying anything.

>> No.12719349

>>12719334
still no answer?
lol, you truly are hopeless
you started the thread trying to sound all scientific and look at you know

>> No.12719351

>>12719336
>poster count didn't increase
hi chink, don't samefag my man

>> No.12719358

>>12718540
I'm guessing this is NZ.
Because of your location, small size and dependency on China you've been targeted for replacement. The virus is unironically a bio weapon meant to cripple your health. Your economy will be even more fucked, your housing will be even more unaffordable, and to fix these issues you will be replaced by (you guessed it) Chinese people.

>> No.12719368

>>12719331
Why does Elon-Bezos-Gates need to destroy the West to have a harem?
Can't they have one already right now as we speak?
Or has girls' self-worth skyrocketed so high now that even a hundred billion isn't enough.

>> No.12719370

>>12719343
it's normal, europeans spread their ydna more than the sinocucks, that's why they are so angry all the times and come here trying to convince other people with some random theory

>> No.12719373

>>12719331
Ah yes, the notoriously successful communist regime of Pol Pot
Now let's not forget the glorious past thousand years of the Chinese empire which they spent doing.... nothing of note

>> No.12719385

>>12719373
you call getting conquered by mongolians for a 100 years and by siberioid manchus that for another 300 years that forced them to adopt the ugliest haircut ever nothing?

>> No.12719391

>>12717682
>>12717697
>>12717709
Africans ate mostly meatless diets until they started immitating europe, the wealthiest can do it the best, so naturally are the most affected. Really check it out, you can basically tell who is going to make it and who is going to die based on the iron levels alone.

>> No.12719395

>>12719385
I certainly wouldn't call either of those an achievement.
They talk all about how great Chinese history was and how they were on top except for one itty bitty century of humiliation but they were just starving, getting conquered left right and centre, and still fucking around with fireworks while Europe moved on to heavy artillery.
Their history is no better than the history of your average African nation.

>> No.12719404

>>12716916
>Another weird trend is that African-Americans have a very high death rate from this, as opposed to Africans

African americans have a western age structure, Africans don’t. There more 80+ in Italy alone than all sub saharan Africa.

>> No.12719419

>>12719339
>>12719370
yeah, they spread it at the expense of other europeans. Kind of like Bezos and his harem will do to you after the climate apocalypse.

>>12719368
It's not just having a harem.
It's becoming Y chromosomal Adams. Even Jeff Bezos cannot hope to have his entire extended family own literally half the land in the US. He can if he preps correctly for extinction, though.

>>12719391
all humans ate mostly meatless diets after the bronze age. europe started eating meat only because half of its population died 600 years ago during the Black Death.

If you look up population data from the middle ages, India and Europe were nearly tied--and I'm pretty sure the former weren't eating much meat back then.

>> No.12719421

>>12719419
>yeah, they spread it at the expense of other europeans.
nice cope, look at a ydna haplo map it's colored red

>> No.12719425

>>12719395
>>12719385
>>12719373
>>12719370
>>12719349
>>12719343
>>12719339
cringe

>> No.12719429

>>12719425
>look i replied to anyone, i also said cringe and cope

>> No.12719459

>>12719429
>>12719421
poids are doing the same thing but less efficiently with more words

>> No.12719469

>>12719459
he didn't reply to anyone, so no
also he's right

can you explain to me how you han got dominated by a little gang of genetically different siberians for 400 years despite being more than a billion?
how did they manage to force you guys to adopt that stupid haircut?

>> No.12719499

>>12719459
>be retarded chink
>say retarded shit
>get called retarded chink
>haha that means I win ehehehe
Also how come Asians seem determined to get whites to hate them now?
I remember we used to be the only people who liked your race. Now you guys just can't stop acting like the most obnoxious people alive talking about how you're gonna take over this and that.

>> No.12719573

>>12719499
It's /pol/ spillover.
/pol/ was widely perceived as one of the most prominent white nationalist discussion sites online (whether that's true or not.)
For whatever reason lots of people feel like it's their job to destroy any assembly of white nationalists and so you end up with lots of posters who come in with an agenda to disrupt the board. Eventually they get bored and branch out onto other boards, but since they aren't organic users, they don't participate in board culture the same way a normal user would, and they continue to push their agenda everywhere, even if it isn't /pol/.

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>>12719469
>>12719499
t. K2b rapespawn

>> No.12719612

>>12719573
there is 500000% more white propaganda and fantasy on this site than anything coming from "anti-white disruptors" as you call them

>> No.12719627

>>12718622
Japan is kino

>> No.12719784

>>12716916
Basic understanding would be that due to proximity to the origin of the virus, the population would have a genetic profile more resilient to the virus.

Humans have dealt with viruse for millenia, it's surviival of the fittest.

>> No.12719794

Fucking KEqing banner, It triggers me.

>> No.12719986

>>12716931
go back and stay there, newniggeredditourist

>> No.12720177

>>12719608
nice drowing made in paint
why didn't you answer? is it too difficult

>> No.12720216

>>12719310
>Western doctors know nothing about physiology for the most part.
Because Asian doctors do. So delusional.
>I remember in the beginning of the pandemic all the poids were like "sheeeeit, this happy hypoxia shouldn't exist, it's literally impossible!"
>happy hypox = when your O2 dips to the 80s and lower, but you are still fully conscious.
That was media panic nonsense. Hypoxemia not causing relevant issues in some patients isn’t new.
>This is also why you see sporadic cases of asymptomatic COVIDs dropping dead in the middle of the day.
Just in China or other places with terrible air quality and it wasn’t due to any virus.
>I would bet that a HUGE percentage of "asymptomatic" people are walking around inches from death. If they're not checking on an oximeter, they have no idea.
Not happening.

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>>12720177
answer what? I don't entertain double digit arguments.

>> No.12720697

>>12720653
more like you don't have an answer

>> No.12720715

Schizo fucking thread

>> No.12720738

>>12720697
you never asked a real question.

>> No.12720743

>>12720216
>Just in China
no

>> No.12720788

>>12720738
ton of people asked you a ton of questions and you never answered

>> No.12720820

>>12720653
can you stop seething for a minute?
literally no one cares about your conspiracies, not a single poster took you seriously

>> No.12720825

>>12720788
4 or 5 people got butthurt and samefagged me with illogical non sequitirs.

I might've missed a few points just because I was one person responding to a horde of wiggers yea

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>>12720820
>stop seething for a minute
you first, friend.

>> No.12720839

>>12720825
you missed all points

>>12720829
ironic, 90% of your posts are cope seethe or other variations

>> No.12720851

>>12720829
again, no one cares about your conspiracies
you made this thread to talk about your weird iq stats in the first place trying to pass it as a "covid19" related thread
it should be archived

>> No.12720867

>>12720839
>>12720851
I was discussing covid, then wiggers wigged. Can't be helped.

>> No.12720877

>>12720867
no, that's what you wanted in the first place, to find a place to say your nonsense that is 100% not true

>> No.12720888

>>12720877
no, I just school wiggers when they start denying reality.
for example, scores of you are pretending that abbo-related Tianyuan people are somehow not east eurasians.
Everything you post is anti-logic fantasies to make you feel better about what the genetic evidence implies.

>> No.12720895

>>12720888
>no, I just school wiggers when they start denying reality.
nothing of what you said was, you also never answer a single argument
you got schooled yourself

>Everything you post is anti-logic fantasies to make you feel better about what the genetic evidence implies.
that whg are close to europeans? yes it implies that

>for example, scores of you are pretending that abbo-related Tianyuan people are somehow not east eurasians. as you can see by your pca they are extremely different genetically from chinese
>>12718928
>>12718918
you are the one denying it

>> No.12720908

>>12720888
tianyan is closer to onge and other adamanese islander, very different form your average chinaman genetically

>> No.12720925

>>12720895
don't bother
he won't answer a single point

he won't mention the fact that whg are closer to modern europeans by a lot compared to chinaman and tianyan
he will either say cope/seethe or talk about something else

>> No.12720958

>>12717800
Yeah this is immediately the obvious interpretation of the most fucked up op. What the fuck how are people gleefully boasting about this kind of stat? Fuck off from the internet you goddamn savages

>> No.12720966
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>>12720908
same thing, they're both east eurasian.

>> No.12720993

>>12720966
it's not the same thing
they are extremely different genetically

>>12719001
you cannot deny the difference in genetics that is enormous regardless if they have a common ancestor or not
it's not the same thing not even close

whg and modern europeans are closer to each other than that

so you are wrong, you are denying reality, calling two people extremely different genetically the same thing

>> No.12721011

>>12720966
why did you post a pca that confirmed they aren't the same thing
look at tianyuan and look at east asians, they are more different than

it also confirms that whg are very similar to europeans
look at where villabruna is, villabruna was basically a whg

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>>12721011
>>12720966
here villabruna was a whg, and look at you chart, much closer to modern europeans than tianyan is to an average chinaman

>> No.12721024

>>12721018
>here villabruna was a whg, and look at you chart, much closer to modern europeans than tianyan is to an average chinaman
tianyuan was 40,000 years ago you literal shit-for-brained poid

>> No.12721036

>>12716916
Obesity.

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>>12721024
>tianyuan was 40,000 years ago you literal shit-for-brained poid
and so what, the basal you mention in all the thread is 50000 you fucking subhuman, can you have a little bit consistency?

>> No.12721051

>>12721046
lmao, just like i said, in the grand scheme of things whg aren't that different from europeans if you put them in a global pca

>> No.12721059

Amwf is objectively the hottest combination because white guys look way too masculine

>> No.12721073

>>12721046
this guy literally manages to btfo himself everytime he actually posts proof of his claims

>> No.12721078

>>12721073
he's an angry asian man in the west, what do you expect
probably will cry about wmaf couples on reddit later

>> No.12721098

>>12716916
Because 95% of statistics (in general) are conveniently skewed.

>> No.12721244

>>12721073
>I keep saying things so they're true

>> No.12721275

>>12721244
>i keep not answering any argument or question and i just keep making snarky remarks

>> No.12721317

>>12721046
>the basal you mention in all the thread is 50000 you fucking subhuman
it's actually 100000 years old

>> No.12721463

>>12721317
Tianyuan is an East Eurasian
Basal is not West Eurasian.

The actual analogue to Tianyuan is Goyet-cluster C europoids from 33kya. Who incidentally ended up getting raped and replaced by a far more divergent IJ lineage.

Tianyuan was raped and replaced by K2a, which is brother to K2b.

wiggers will cry about this as well.

>> No.12721564

>>12721463
tianyan is extremely different genetically from modern chinese, regardless if they had a common ancestor at a certain point
you are still afraid to confirm this because it's true >>12721046
you will cry about it, you still didn't address this

it's really not that difficult to understand

whg are much closer to europeans in comparison,
again another thing you afraid of because it's true,m you still didn't adress this

literally all your argument boils down to some common ancestor some thousands years ago or some more ten thousands of years ago and don't care about actual genetic similarity, when both basal and main eurasians descend from the same ancestors anyway so if we want to make a strictly ancestral classification without caring if those people are actually genetically similar or not than main eurasians and basal descend from the same ancestors

>> No.12721646

>>12721463
still no answer
>>12721046
whg is not that distant from europeans
it's infinitely close to europeans than to "east eurasians"
europeans are the result of people relatively close to each other

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12721773

>>12721564
>>12721646
>hiding your fraudulent assumptions and hoping you don't get called out and ignoring it when you do

Tianyuan is 40kya.
WHG is 9kya.

using them in a side-by-side comparison means you are SPED.

here is the actual analogue. Devils Gate Neolithic samples from 8kya. They are still pretty much around today, in the form of Ulchi people.

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12721797

>>12721646
>>12721564
>>12721773
Here is the caucasoid equivalent:

WHG samples from 9kya. They are totally extinct today.

Awaiting your cope, seethe, adhominem, and shifting of the goalposts.

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>>12721773
>>12721463
goyet is still closer to modern europeans than tianyuan is to modern chinese, so no, you literally can't stop getting btfo'd

>> No.12721820

Can someone explain to me what are yall arguing about?

>> No.12721845

>>12721797
they aren't that different from modern europeans, basically the difference between spanish and russians

again, in the global scheme of things this isn't a huge difference like you want to make it out to be

>> No.12721853

>race influences height, bone structure, muscle development, dick size, food tolerances, genetics diseases, immune system functionality and god knows what else
>the notion that race and IQ are related impossible and racist
explain

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>>12721797
>>12721773
>>12721646
>>12721564

>>12721046
If you wanna compare Tianyuan, he compares to Goyet. Holy fuck learn numbers.

>> No.12721896

>>12721809
>cherrypicks swedish
>doesn't include japs koreans and atayal

>> No.12721913
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>>12716916
>https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054627v3.full.pdf
>>We found significant positive correlation (r=0.58, P=0.03) between West European hunter 64 gatherers (WHG) ancestral fractions and COVID-19 death/recovery ratio for data as of 5th65 April 2020. This association discernibly amplified (r=0.77, P=0.009) upon reanalyses
>>Finally, six immune system related SNPs (rs2243250, rs1800872, rs1800896, 340 rs1544410, rs1800629 and rs1805015) that display significant variability between Europeans 341 and East Asians (Odds Ratio>2, Chi square>40, P<10-10)are likely associated with the 342 development of immune responses in the first year of life
>>Consequently, WHGs who contributed discernible ancestry fractions to most 426 Europeans, provided very low fraction (<10%) of the same in the ancestries of Near 427 Easterners (Turkey, Georgia and Armenia) [37]. Consistent with this, COVID-19 428 death/recovery ratio in Turkey, Georgia and Armenia remained discernibly lower compared 429 to most European countrie
>TLDR; more western ancestry = greater susceptibility to covid
>>b-b-but indians in london were more likely to die
>yes, due to low vitamin D. Correct the D and whites die more.
>You can also see this trend in the US--Asians have a slightly lower deaths/capita than whites, DESPITE the fact that ALL Asians live in the city, while most whites live in rural isolated areas. Meaning the effective death rate is much lower in Asians.
>Another weird trend is that African-Americans have a very high death rate from this, as opposed to Africans. Latinos too, it seems. However, actual Africans don't seem to be hit much at all. It's almost as if recent racial mixture is also a type of risk factor, maybe wonking up some immunity genes?

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>>12721797
>e. Devils Gate Neolithic samples from 8kya. They are still pretty much around today, in the form of Ulchi people.
that are nothing like modern chinese

>>12721797
>Awaiting your cope, seethe, adhominem, and shifting of the goalposts.
>>12720829

>> No.12721962

>>12721896
here you are, Awaiting your cope, seethe, adhominem, and shifting of the goalposts.

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>>12721962
>>12721896

>> No.12721982

>>12721915
aaaand you're shifting the goalposts again.

8000 year old south Siberian samples are almost identical to current day southern Siberian Tungusic peoples.

9000 year old Europeans are...totally extinct. Literally nowhere to be found.

>> No.12722011

>>12721973
good for you. You're marginally more correct on 1/25 retarded points you wiggers brought up.

and in any case the stronger goyet relation would fade as they were conquered by more divergent IJ near easterners

>> No.12722015

>>12721861
goyet is still closer to europeans than tianyuan is closer to east asians
you literally can't stop btfoing yourself

>> No.12722037

>>12722011
>nd in any case the stronger goyet relation would fade as they were conquered by more divergent IJ near easterners
cope seethe and shitfting of the goalposts
i'm closer to my ancestors than you are to yours

>> No.12722052

>>12721982
i'm not shifting anything
we are talking about east asians and europeans
east asians are clearily mutted compared to the devil's gate

>> No.12722097

>>12722011
you're getting nervous

>> No.12722149

>>12716916
If disease influences Caucasians, it's because we are being tested. This makes us stronger.

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>>12722037
>>12722015
>i'm closer to my ancestors than you are to yours
literally false. see>>12721797

Tianyuan was also 40,000 as opposed to 33,000 years old. So even that point is in limbo.

>>12722052
>totally unrelated argument
sigh.

>> No.12722226

>>12722151
literally false
>>12721973
we are closer to goyet than you are to tianyuan
you also conceded that, remember?


again, whg isn't as different as you want to make it out to be, basically the distance between sardinians and finns

>> No.12722242

>>12722151
we are closer to goyet than you are to tianyuan
we are closer to our ancestors and by quite a lot too

>> No.12722287

>>12722151
you seem to be grasping at straws at this point

>> No.12722404

>>12722151
goyet is 35000 and tianyuan is 39000

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>>12722404
he can't stop lying

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What should happen to those who refuse the vaccine? Loss of employment? Locked in their homes to protect the public from them? Cut off deliveries and utilities? If they're going to endanger the public, shouldn't the public be able to isolate them permanently to protect us all?

>> No.12725269

>>12723953
>What should happen to those who refuse the vaccine? Loss of employment?
Checked stats lately? Loss of life is likely, and we are heading for 10% of the US population having been infected once and quite a few of them will suffer long Covid. A life in brain fog is not a happy one.

>> No.12725293

>>12725269
is it really a bad thing?
think about it, we are basically solving the immigration problem at the root
the older population is dying en masse, we won't need to import immigrants anymore if we don't have to pay pensions

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>>12722559
>>12722404
>>12722287
>>12722242
>>12722226
lots happens in 5000 years under tiny population densities. you know nothing about genetic ethnogenesis. And it's a marginal difference at best. That this is your best attempt at cope is pretty funny.

>>12722097
>>12722052
>>12722037
tired of this wigger onslaught, so here it is from a western journal. You are our sons. Now stop being so uppity and we might not completely cleanse you.