/sci/ - Science & Math

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>>12697388
yes and influenced by humans

>>12697388
Yes, the climate on Earth changes over time regardless of human activity.

Is Sneed real?

>>12697388
No.
(Hint: now it's no longer consensus ;))

It is, but humans didn't cause it.

>>12697440
They didn't "cause" it, but contributed and made it worse. If you can't understand that, you don't belong on this board.

>>12697442
Lmao

What do you think?

>>12697520
Is climate change a meme?

>>12697525
The world may never know.

>>12697530
Global warming is a real phenomenon.

>>12697388
Yes, and it's amplified by humans. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or being paid by big oil.

>>12697388
No, polar bears are still alive, in fact there's more polar bears now more than ever

>>12697388
Are you?

>>12697388
without a doubt
that being said, nothing will happen to prevent it - there would need to be an alliance of every country in the world working together towards fixing the problem which is never going to happen

you can take expensive steps towards fixing the problem that will have catastrophic consequences years from now or profit from ignoring it today

>>12697520
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>>12697539
gradeschool understanding of stats

do you honestly think we cant extrapolate current data and make probabilistic guesses on whats coming using a combination of a plethora of other stats?

do you honestly think you're making a good point right now?

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>>12697964
>do you honestly think we cant extrapolate current data
That's what anon is implying, are you retarded? You could try posting examples of how climate extrapolations have been correct instead of being a faggot.

>>12697964
>do you honestly think you're making a good point right now?
If over 50% of your plot is extrapolation, then you're not even presenting data at that point but rather just fear mongering, unverified bullshit.

>>12697964
Here's how to properly show extrapolations in a data set. Notice the difference between this and climate change? A majority of the plot is data, where you see a clear trend in recent years and such trend is extrapolated shortly in the future.

>>12698456
Here's another example of extrapolation done right. This time about half the data is extrapolated, but the reason it's okay here and not in climate change is the smooth changes. It's not randomly exponential just for the sake of showing maximal fear mongering growth.

>>12698438
>If over 50% of your plot is extrapolation,
The size of the plot is irrelevant, unless you think the extrapolation is some kind of naive curve fitting. What a moron.

>>12698494
Then here's a plot of your autism over time. Most of the data is extrapolated. I hope you don't mind.

>>12698456
OK, here's a chart where the majority of the plot is data >>12698041

Somehow this magically becomes more valid than a chart showing the same projection with a shorter y-axis???

>>12698463
None of the charts are randomly exponential. They are based on different models of different things and thus behave differently. Are you mentally handicapped?

>>12698513
You're confusing lines drawn on a graph with data and projections.

>>12698515
You'll also notice I posted a chart earlier agreeing about global warming being legitimate, given it's majority data. Maybe you missed it.
>>12697539
You're under some kind of delusion that climate change == global warming. Here's a quick rule of thumb for you: if the language is global warming, it's scientific since all the graphs are overwhelmingly data driven and show a clear trend. If it's climate change, then it's political drivel as you can see here >>12697525
>THIS IS THE WORLD IF WE DONT ACT NOW
Notice how it's different from global warming plots which day
>Yeah, so, this is what temperate was and this is what it is now. This is, like, a problem guys.

>>12698527
>You'll also notice I posted a chart earlier agreeing about global warming being legitimate
That's nice, your reasoning is still retarded.

>>12698527
Current climate change is global warming. It's not that hard to understand, schizo. No need to make up secret code words.

>>12698598
Pseud detected.
>https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-difference-between-global-warming-and-climate-change
>Global warming refers only to the Earth’s rising surface temperature, while climate change includes warming and the “side effects” of warming
Notice how the former is data oriented, and the latter is projection oriented. As was demonstrated earlier in this thread, the projections aren't even sound.

Climate change is real, but human contribution is, in fact, overvalued by most "climatologits". Climate has been changing for the whole lifetime of our planet, there were periods with more radical increase of average temperature than the current one. And panic and all the proposed measures won't really stop the acceleration of warming, we'll have to adapt to higher temperatures, rising humidity and other side effects. Personally I, as a coomer, welcome this coming change, because it means we'll observe lightly-dressed females much more often in the future than we do now, which is quite nice. There will be negative sides too, but I think focusing on them is simply pointless.

>>12698622
>Notice how the former is data oriented, and the latter is projection oriented.
You're hallucinating again, schizo.

>As was demonstrated earlier in this thread, the projections aren't even sound.
Where?

>>12698965
>Climate change is real, but human contribution is, in fact, overvalued by most "climatologits".
Source?

>Climate has been changing for the whole lifetime of our planet, there were periods with more radical increase of average temperature than the current one.
When? What resulted from those changes?

>And panic and all the proposed measures won't really stop the acceleration of warming
Please explain how reducing CO2 emissions will not stop acceleration of warming.

>>12698622
>Another distinction between global warming and climate change is that when scientists or public leaders talk about global warming these days, they almost always mean human-caused warming—warming due to the rapid increase in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from people burning coal, oil, and gas.
>Climate change, on the other hand, can mean human-caused changes or natural ones, such as ice ages. Besides burning fossil fuels, humans can cause climate changes by emitting aerosol pollution—the tiny particles that reflect sunlight and cool the climate— into the atmosphere, or by transforming the Earth's landscape, for instance, from carbon-storing forests to farmland.
Your source agrees that the the current climate change is global warming.