/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12688241
I'm getting a PhD solely so I can scream at high schoolers making minimum wage about how I "didn't spend 8 years getting a doctorate to be called Mr."

Maybe you, OP

I am finishing my PhD in advance because I already got offers. So why I should say no to a job that pays me (quite well) for fooling around stuff I would normally do for free

>math Ph.D
>any job I want
>300k starting

OP clear brainlet that failed at life and seek justification on /sci/

>>12688241
>I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>someone does

>>12688262
Kek

>>12689133
probably lies

>>12688241
A stem phd in physics or math can actually open a lot of career doors outside academia. Staying in academia is pure hell I think.

>>12689866
>Staying in academia is pure hell I think.
How come? Seems kinda comfy at mid-low tier unis

>>12689905
hundreds of applicants for any position, constant pressure to publish if you do get in

full disclosure: not in academia, just what i've heard from friends that are

>>12688241
unfortunately getting mine next month

>>12688241
I'm getting a PhD so I can work as a bartender and casually flex on people.

Nah I got a masters and went into industry first chance I got

>>12688241
The truth is that both options suck.

>academia
The work will be fun and challenging. Shit pay, stress, have to deal with a lot of fucking annoying Chinese and Indians. Only well-paying jobs are full professorship positions which are extremely rare and difficult to get.

>industry
Good pay. 99% of jobs are managerial, Excel-monkey, code-monkey, and CAD-monkey positions.

>>12690101
I would be EXTREMELY happy and grateful for any of those options. I swear, you fags are spoiled as fuck. I don't know, maybe you come from rich families and have never been poor.

>>12690105
Nah man I come from a poor family and worked my way through college with no debt. Currently working a full time engineering job while finishing my MS part time so I know both sides. It all sucks. I was legit happiest when I worked as a package handler at UPS, but that shit can’t support a family.

>>12689950
In what?

>>12690112
It sucks because it is hard and it takes a lot of effort, is that what you're saying?

>>12690101
you are right and this is why i'm still gonna do it

>>12690122
No because jobs are either extremely unfulfilling or impossible to get. I get paid $60k to send emails, have meetings, and run errands as an engineer. I like to do hands on shit that gives you a good feeling of accomplishment

>>12690133
>I get paid $60k to send emails, have meetings, and run errands as an engineer.
Sounds good to me.

>>12690133
>I like to do hands on shit that gives you a good feeling of accomplishment
Should have into trades, then. Most engineers have never done hands on stuff for a long time.

>>12690105
This. I don't understand people saying industry isn't cool or sexy enough for them.
It's somewhat intellectually stimulating in a field you enjoyed studying and gets you fed.
That's all that matters.

>>12690101
>Be immigrant
>Go to school and uni in the UK
>Do masters in engineering
>Start searching for jobs since September
>Every role requires you to jump through application hoops and play bullshit situal judgement games
>Fail to get anything despite several first stage and one second stage interviews
>Get called up by a recruiting agency the other day
>They need someone who speaks my language to collect medical data from boomers back home
>They sign me up to the role in 3 days and it pays a few grades more than entry level engineering jobs

I'm starting to think this industry is dead, most jobs are code or cad monkey tier work, very few are truly decent, and they are greatly oversubscribed

>>12688241
I'm a NEET who never has to work so why not? Worse thing that happens is I end up a code monkey and I've ready been learning C and reading SICP.

>>12690455
>NEET
>Not educated, employed, or trained
>In a PhD
Um...

>>12690410
>Every role requires you to jump through application hoops and play bullshit situal judgement games
what do you mean?
And honestly, how many jobs did you apply for?
>It has been announced by the UK government that 2018 will be the ‘Year of Engineering.’ It is now widely recognised that the sector is facing a skills crisis like never before, and measures need to be taken to help the leaders of the engineering industry fill the jobs that are integral to the field. According to the government’s study, for the engineering sector to gain enough candidates to reduce the skills shortage, they would need around 186,000 skilled recruits each year until 2024.
https://www.randstad.co.uk/career-advice/job-skills/uk-engineering-facing-skills-crisis-where-are-jobs/

>>12690037

>>12690037
Did you have any experience before the masters?

>>12690118
mathematics

>>12690509
I'm not him, but depending on your field, internships and what not can put you way ahead of someone who only has academic credentials. I lucked out with a payed lab fellowship that I get to cite as work experience.

>>12690535
Getting an internship is really hard, though, especially if your uni sucks.

>>12690490
>honestly, how many jobs did you apply for?
Probably 40-50. Not as many as other people, but even for this number the response rate was abysmal. Only a dozen actually replied with rejections; most just ignore you. A lot of them required tests, video or phone interviews, yet don't provide any feedback. I've called up local engineering businesses and they say business is down so they won't hire. I've signed up to recruiting agencies who are meant to search for work for you and yet nada. My fellow graduates are struggling to find something too, and so far the only people who did were in data science and finance. Traditional engineering is DEAD

>It is now widely recognised that the sector is facing a skills crisis like never before
They've been telling us this since school. Maybe they mean skilled engineers which they can just invite from abroad. There are more than enough engineering graduates and most of them go into software or finance.

>>12690490
“Engineering” is used so loosely these days that high school graduates who know how to use Microsoft Office are qualified for most “engineering” jobs.

>>12690410
We don’t need more immigrants, kindly fuck off back to your own country and stop competing with natives for jobs .

>>12690553
>A lot of them required tests
What type of tests?

>>12690554
>natives
UK is like 30% non-white at this point. No natives left.

>>12690544
True, you're usually competing with a lot of applicants for internships. It helps to be good at networking. Get on your professors' good sides. I only even heard of that fellowship position because I scored top of my class in cell bio and was friendly with my prof. Letters of recommendation are super important also, and it helps if the person writing it is sincere about what they're saying.

>>12690559
Situational judgement, coding challenges (if a software role), pymetric games

>>12690554
>“Engineering” is used so loosely these days that high school graduates who know how to use Microsoft Office are qualified for most “engineering” jobs.
Not really, since they don't know the technical concepts.

>>12690554
I'm packing my bags

>>12690566
Sounds stressful. Think suicide sounds comfy desu.

>>12690566
>pymetric games
So, basically an IQ test?
Lulz.

If I can't find an engineering job in 6 months, I'm just going to teach math in high school. £32k starting in 2022 (more than almost any starting engineering job), tons of demand, job security, and lots of room to do extra for more money. Fuck it, I am not going to stress myself out longer than 6-8 months by trying to find work.

>>12690554
Hmmm. Gonna come to the UK now and bring my whole 30+ immediate family members from Asia :)

>>12689856
not in finance

>>12690577
Yes.

Imagine dutifully studying engineering for 4 years, ensuring you have thorough knowledge of important technical concepts, only for the big shot engineering corps to reject you based on IQ or social autism (which is determined in situational judgement tests)

If they believe IQ is so critical just say it openly. Make us do an IQ test at 10 and have it determine our ranking, like in Brave New World. It's humiliating to play these stupid games where you memorise card sequences or pick out the shapes of arrows from a clutter of objects.

>>12690571
It is quite stressful. The job I got was bullshit luck but it made me think how much wealth is available outside this cursed industry.

>>12690586
>lots of room to do extra for more money.
Like what?

Being a head teacher always sounded comfy, and the pay of £70k isn't bad. I didn't know maths teachers earn that much starting though.

>>12690595
Head of department, management stuff, there is a lot of paperwork stuff that needs doing. Also, they give you a £26k tax-free grant when you train. So in first two years, you're going to make almost 60k (when the new math teachers' wages are added in 2022).
Because the demand is so high, you can basically move anywhere in the country, including to somewhere nice and rural. They will also pay you extra if you move to an Island to teach, like the isle of wight, kek.

>>12690608
Indarasting

Would love to move to the Isle of Man

>mfw I was part of a racist group chat in uni and if its leaked my teaching career will be over

>>12690595
>I didn't know maths teachers earn that much starting though.
They don't currently (think the minimum is around 26k currently). But they are raising it to £30k minimum + an extra 2k yearly for newly trained teachers in 2022. There is a shortage of thousands per year and 50% of teachers who teach maths didn't do the subject, or a related subject, at uni. So you have English and geography teachers teaching maths.

>>12690592
IQ tests are meant to be illegal, but they just change the name, lol.

>>12690622
That's a ticking timebomb, my man. Your career might survive if you're in private industry (depends a lot on the company) but you'll get axed in a second working in education.

>>12690622
>racist group chat
like what?

>>12690635
Sheit nigga

Well enjoy dealing with that I guess

Where would you want to teach? Being the first normal teacher in an underperforming school is gonna be a challenge

>>12690643
Oh, thats pretty funny then. Yeah, they just combine IQ with personality games and call it something different.

>>12690644
It has already been leaked. Some guy got their public sector job BODIED by it.

>>12690592
Did you try practicing the tests beforehand?

>>12690670
As far as I'm concerned I only used the words nigger & fag casually, like on 4chan.

I left the chat cause I got sick of the people in it IRL, and after a year it turned fucking vile. they began calling women who had abortions animals, discussing IQ & race, mocking holocaust remembrance, and basically being very dumb /pol/tards.

Some leftie activists managed to leak the chat and began doxxing them. It's still unknown how many screenshots they've got. But so far a guy lost his job

>>12690739
Where was the chat?

>>12690037
Did you do a course or thesis based masters?

>>12690750
messanger

>>12690763
If the hordes come for you simply deny any accusations as being doctored. I am normally truthful at all times, regardless of the conditions but the dishonesty posed by the pseudo-outrage faggots doesn't warrant your accountability.

>>12690739
>after a year it turned fucking vile
>they began calling women who had abortions animals, discussing IQ & race, mocking holocaust remembrance
I suppose it's convenient for you to draw the line of acceptable speech precisely where you use slurs (assumingly ironically, but not relevant), but their use of taboo speech is vile? I bet you would also sell those 'ex friends' down the river if you thought it would protect you. For the record, IQ and race discussion is a necessary conversation to have.

Based I did my undergrad and got into finance

>>12690739
>discussing IQ & race
oh no how dare they discuss things that are clearly correlated

>>12690410>>12690101

engineers are blue collars, ever since the atheists pushed the idea for good= plebeians to get more degrees.

If everybody has a degree, then a degree is worthless.

>>12692167
I am just telling you what was in the chat, and that it was enough to get someone fired. (Claiming it was doctored didn't work >>12692152). I am not saying me using racial slurs was any better. The real issue with them is what they were like IRL, which is why I stopped being friends with them. They were so racist they could no longer see people as individuals beyond their race, extremely arrogant and misogynistic, and lacking even a basic sense of humanity. They would laugh at the new zealand mosque massacre, at the holocaust, at gay people complaining that they get harassed, they would make rape jokes and call people who switch religions scum and much more. If you think that is acceptable, you are one of them subhumans raised to only think about yourself and feel arrogant hatred to the world.

>For the record, IQ and race discussion is a necessary conversation to have.
Somehow everyone who has this discussion is actually just exaggerating the effects of IQ and advocating for discrimination they believed in a priori rather than being scientific.

>I bet you would also sell those 'ex friends' down the river if you thought it would protect you
It would be hypocritical of me to doxx them, so I don't, but they are not my friends and I am happy to see life screw them over due to their nasty attitude.

>>12693438
The people you are describing are brown shirts. Useful idiots. Street thugs to combat the other street thugs. Cannon fodder.

>>12688262
Same, I just want the 'Dr.' title.

>>12689905
There are no comfy jobs. At high tier unis you have to grind out papers all the time. At low tier unis you need to teach 80 hrs a week.

>>12693622
Ejch twoeh oeh

>>12693622
And it's getting worse every year. I'm in the process of leaving a VAP job for industry, and the teaching loads are going up for everyone because the school won't hire any new permanent faculty.

>>12690553
Just do that shit now. There's no point in applying for any engineering jobs because the industry is dead. Applying for any work was hard back in 2019, and it's far worse now because there's more competition and less jobs.

>>12693438
You sound like a caricature of an NPC. Continue enveloping yourself in the sense of morality that the screens instruct you to have, and castigate those who don't conform to those artificial expectations. It sounds like you lack any understanding of the IQ literature, but don't allow that to stop you from deeming it as "vile". I hope they come for you and it prevents you from ever holding down a respectable job, hypocritical faggot.

>>12693911
>butthurt nazi

Seethe harder
You'll die alone

>>12693969
go back

>>12690509
I had an internship which then offered me a job
>>12690751
it was an integrated masters, which is something we have in the UK although I'm not sure how it is in the US. It's a 4 year course with the first three years being equivalent to a bachelor's while the final year was a 6 month research project with a thesis followed by a semester of taught modules.

>>12688241
>barely able to finish my masters, bottom 10% of my class
>got hired in a research institute connected to univ for codemonkeying
>coauthor a successful couple mil grant application
>the univ is lacking staff, got teaching proposal, turn it down because lol teaching and "i'm not even a phd"
>the dean tells me he'd fast-forward any thesis i'd shit out if that closes the deal

god, i love being and not being a part of academia at the same time.

>>12694237
>Everyone else gets their views from corporations, I'm the only Original Thinker

>>12694387
There's a rather obvious difference between accepting and regurgitating what the (((screens))) tell you, and being skeptical of the MSM narrative. Most people won't do the latter and accept absolutely everything at face value. What I am saying isn't at all groundbreaking, but I am not surprised that somebody who is bluepilled cannot fathom the idea of critical thinking.

>>12694401
>hurr bluepill
>hurr noone but me has critical thinking

This is exactly the path I fell down when I was a /pol/tard back in the day. What is hard to see (and what you won't see for a while) is that you are an IDIOT, and when you are an idiot its easy to feel above everyone else because you're so removed from reality.

Bet you think IQ and race correlation is groundbreaking, when you miss the wider point that even if it is real, it doesn't mean racial discrimination is the right way to manage society.

>>12690563
don't unis have obligatory internships? In mine we are required to do two internships minimum to get our degree.

I've almost got my Chemistry BS and I don't really see how my life will improve from grad school. I'll understand more shit, but I don't really care about that, and I'll probably get payed next to nothing either way.

>>12694418
In America, most don't. Seeking out internships is often left to the students, and you can graduate without any work experience.

>>12694401
mate go outside, no joke the world is much wider in terms of discussion and crap that you read on the internet.

>>12688241
If you catch even the slightest whif of douchenozzle geek from a prospective supervisor, don't fucking bother

>>12694407
>it doesn't mean racial discrimination is the right way to manage society
Of course that's not what it would mean. Did you simply assume I was a racist because I disagreed with you on something? That is well and truly your NPC programming at work. Perhaps I should also be deplatformed and silenced for expressing dangerous thoughts? After all, that's what the MSM claims. How on earth could the MSM be wrong?
>even if it is real
Firstly, it is absolutely real. The reason that it should be discussed and not swept under the carpet as "racist statistics" or the the like, is because it directly affects policy. If there is a significant difference in the mean intelligence of racial populations, then that could be a factor explaining discrepancy of representation of races in various professions. Instead of having a legitimate discussion on IQ, we are told that only racial discrimination is responsible for differences of representation. Accordingly, policy such as affirmative action and general vitriol towards the races with greater representation is implemented and justified on that basis. The thing is, it goes both ways. The antisemitic component of the rightwing targets Jews on the basis of their overrepresentation in elite/coveted positions. The fact that Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent race of people is ignored, and instead they are targeted on the basis of being evil Jews.

Reminder that graduate degrees just qualify you for the position of Advanced Wagecuck.

>>12694471
I wish that were true, but in the context of my university courses I hear the same sentiments that are expressed on Twitter. There simply isn't exposure to perspectives outside of the MSM official statements unless you go out of your way to hear about them (e.g. visiting 4ch or hearing what marginalized political commentators are saying). The fact is, most people have CNN on in the background whilst eating their dinner and get a curated form of reality. My relatively young healthy mother is under the impression that COVID is a death sentence and lockdowns for the next few years would be justified. There is a reason for my pessimism, it's not arbitrary and schizo fuelled.

>>12694534
Humans have been wagecucks ever since the division of labor became a thing.

>>12688241
Too late bro. Although reading about the alternatives it's a pretty good option
>Work on problems you're genuinely interested in
>Fuck around with cutting-edge equipment
>Come and go as you please
>40+ days paid leave each year
>Get to go all over the world to boozy conferences
>No pressure from higher up as long as you shit out 1-2 papers each year
I don't teach, but some people like it. Pay is shit though yeah, but no one becomes a scientist for the dosh.

>>12693911
Retard

>>12694401
Get a fucking friend cunt

>>12694521
People like you always understate your positions. You start by saying IQ sometimes has an impact on a person's performance in a career, but eventually just say there is no racial discrimination and it cannot possibly have an impact on socioeconomics. Anyway, there is no use repeating the same discussions as everywhere on the web- It wasn't the discussion about IQ and Race in the chat that was leaked and led to job loss, but rather the insultive racism and disrespect it contained.

>>12695035
>You start by saying IQ sometimes has an impact on a person's performance in a career
I didn't say that, but now that you bring it up - IQ certainly impacts a person's performance in a career (Assuming career is synonymous with a complex job, i.e. not a custodian/ assembly line worker).
> but eventually just say there is no racial discrimination and it cannot possibly have an impact on socioeconomics
I also didn't say that at all. I believe that is also a factor, my point is that it is not the only factor. The currently narrative is that any discrepancy that exists which appears to favour white people (e.g. representation in a prestigous university/ profession) is a product of racism and must be retroactively modified via non-meritocratic processes like affirmative action.
Your inability to interpret a few sentences without misconstruing what was said is unfortunate. Perhaps I now understand why some people allow the screen to do any thinking on their behalf.

>>12694407
you're an actual NPC lmfao

>>12694903
you can do most of this in industry. If anything the funding is better most of the time as well

>>12695170
>you can do most of this in industry
how

>>12695193
>Work on problems you're genuinely interested in
Pretty self explanatory if you get into a position you like. I wouldn't say your chances of that being the case are any different to the chances you take on choosing a PhD.
>Fuck around with cutting-edge equipment
Again industry often has better funding than academia. Equipment is often shared between less people as well.
>Come and go as you please
>40+ days paid leave each year
obviously these two aren't necessarily true for industry, although it can still be flexible depending on where you work.
>Get to go all over the world to boozy conferences
plenty of opportunity to go to such conferences in industry as well.
>No pressure from higher up as long as you shit out 1-2 papers each year
I actually find there's surprisingly little top down pressure in industry at least for a research scientist who isn't in a managerial position. This probably depends on where you work though, but equally you can say this for a PhD.

>>12690739
>fucking vile.
>they began calling women who had abortions animals, discussing IQ & race, mocking holocaust remembrance
You sound like a kike

>>12695227
And what if I am?

>>12694521
>The antisemitic component of the rightwing targets Jews on the basis of their overrepresentation in elite/coveted positions. The fact that Ashkenazi Jews are the most intelligent race of people is ignored, and instead they are targeted on the basis of being evil Jews.
1. That talking point is never ignored
2. It's also dubious
3. It's used to justify ashkenazi nepotism and over representation even though for every high IQ ashkenazi there are multiple high IQ Whites and Asians.
4. That is often extrapolated out to the rest of the jews

>>12695244
If you can be spotted so easily then you need to work on your subversion

>>12695262
I'll subvert your mother to suck BBC

>>12695286
Embarrassing post

>>12695299
Embarrassing existence

>>12695322
Embarrassing post

>>12695286
t. asian, muslim, or indian zoomer

>get PhD
>work for state for a few years
>do research without dealing with jabroni students
>leave and get JD or MBA
>come back and run the show
>consult on the side
Is this the most based and redpilled plan? I have a geology degree, love research, and am modeling my trajectory off of Trumps head of the EPA (Andrew Wheeler).

>>12695244
Be sure to yell "oy vey" as you lose all of your employment prospects, you parasite.

>>12695375
kys

>>12695375
>get JD or MBA
>geology degree
ngmi x 2

just dont be the person that got PhD in communications.

>>12695322
>>12695323
ur both equally worthless

>>12695441
>quoting Bobby Fischer, a Jew, who had intense conspiracy paranoia

Check your sources you midwit

>>12696995
>quoting Bobby Fischer, a Jew
What are you, an antisemite or something? So what if he's Jewish?

>>12696719
what's wrong with geology?

>>12689905
I guess that no matter how good you are, there is always autistic asian better then you

>>12697548
I'm just busting your balls. I know nothing about geology.

>>12697597
What's there to know?

>>12693438
>a priori

First, you're not using that word correctly. Secondly, you don't get to dictate and decide what other peoples motives are. Third, you're point is irrelevant - in fact its a logical fallacy - because the motive of someone endorsing a claim has no impact on the truth or falsity of the claim, so even if these people are 'evil', that doesn't mean they are wrong. For instance, Joseph Stalin was clearly evil, but he was correct in opposing capitalism and fascism. Motives have no impact on truth and falsity.

I kinda like the idea of staying within the university network
PhD is really the only way to get that ticket, right? Besides paying for courses forever

>>12688241
Post bank account asset value then, faggot

>>12689908
>>12693622
>constant pressure to publish if you do get in
>At high tier unis you have to grind out papers all the time. At low tier unis you need to teach 80 hrs a week.
holy shit if you go into academia you have to do your job?? :O

>>12690739
>>12693438
I'm pretty similar to that.
To understand the mindset, you have to first of all realize that this is a siege mentality, which develops in light of personal experiences and perspectives which are dismissed out-of-hand by people who can't even muster the mental strength to defend their own beliefs. They can't answer a Socratic inquiry into their position and they can't even realize when they've run up against their subjective principles and emotional positions. Instead they cope, dismiss, slander, and parrot warped reflections of some better-established philosophy, or shallow buzzwords more likely. Also, these people run the world.
When it comes to this liberal mainstream, there are two broad groups. The successful ones can't really relate to the losers and don't recognize their own conscientiousness. These people give everything the benefit of the doubt endlessly, they've been completely spoiled by plenty and comfort, they've never lived in a system where most people were incompetent and don't value competence accordingly, they are domesticated oversocialized performatives with no foundation in the world beyond the consensus of others like them. Therefore, they think that any subjective opinion they hold could work as a pillar of society, if preexisting social constructs didn't get in the way. They are variably guilty, proud, and insecure of their success; they claim to promote equity and accessibility to that same success for others, but they don't understand why they are successful where others aren't, and they can't even criticize the meaning of success or their understanding of it.

>>12699319
Meanwhile the loser footsoldiers have no means or avenue or reason to admit that they're losers. They can riot and burn cities and get just a slap on the wrist from the law; not that they would have anything to lose anyways, of course. They get social capital for simply existing, even if they're parasitic talentless toxic scum and even if that's broadly true of their whole demographic, and soon UBI will inflate this class even further full of people who would have had potential.
Both of these human types are more and more common in the younger generations of the West.
You begin to see a world order that bends over backwards to avoid holding certain people accountable, while shitting on others (including you) purely for existing, except that world order wouldn't even exist without the people it hates, and it will cease to exist if it gets its own way.
This perspective is omnipresent and you can't escape it. It makes you bitter, and the society rejects you as soon as it gets even a slight inkling of your worries, and eventually you can't reconcile that society with its internal contradictions. And every year this tendency creeps even further into public discourse, which fuels ever-constant gaslighting.
Then the same fuckers turn around and paint bumbling incompetent fucks like Trump as akin to Satan for doing one one-hundredth of what they do, just for daring to oppose them. Their own number-one tactic is gaslighting, and they turned that into an Orange Man Bad buzzword as well. I should make it clear that I think Trump is a senile retard who achieved a historic win through the efforts of others and then undermined himself within the first year of his term; but that's partially what I'm getting at. The only people even remotely on your side are out-of-touch boomers and similarly fossilized conservatives, who buy into LARPs like Q and bluster about muh 2A but never stand up and actually fucking defend their values, and aren't capable of conserving anything.

>>12699326
> Their own number-one tactic is gaslighting, and they turned that into an Orange Man Bad buzzword as well.
see pic related for a great example of that I also have saved

>>12690739
>>12693438
So to address this:
> women who had abortions animals
Abortion is poorly-justified murder and people accept it on the basis of personal interest or the overzealous benefit of the doubt. Neither is a good enough reason. These days women who have abortions mostly have them so they can spend more time slutting around with no accountability. So in that sense they're worse than animals, because animals don't murder their young except in times of famine so the animal can survive, and these women are doing it in times of plenty just to ensure their cunts can keep quivering on anonymous cock every weekend.
> IQ & race
Informal evidence suggests niggers are stupid and self-destructive. Correlational studies can readily be interpreted in this way. Formal research into the matter cannot exist in the current climate. The best proxy for this problem are pitbulls, and there you can really see the nature of the argument being statistics vs. "le heckin cute boy" and other retarded emotional nonarguments founded in incomprehensible empathy for potato-shaped freaks of nature.
> mocking holocaust remembrance
The Jews have used the social capital from their genocide to shield themselves from any criticism, including literal genocide of their own in Israel. In doing so, they have retroactively justified everything that has ever been done to them.
> they could no longer see people as individuals beyond their race
That's how it is. You can never ever escape your race or ethnic identity, because if it becomes an issue to somebody then you will pay for it, even if you literally hate yourself for it. Individualism is idiotic, worthless, and pointless in any case.

>>12690531
Post body

>>12690739
>>12693438
>>12699344
> extremely arrogant and misogynistic
In nature women are baby factories and men are expendable. Unfortunately women want zero accountability while making sure men stay expendable and stuck in all the menial dangerous roles. Humans will go extinct if the current female-centric trends continue, based just on the fact that empowered women don't want children. So why do their rights matter?
This isn't even about what I said earlier, nor is it personal. I wouldn't mind if they did their fucking job.
> lacking even a basic sense of humanity
Can you please nail down the definition of humanity?
And that said, why am I being held to high standards when large groups in society aren't held to any standards? Why should I care about them, or about you?
> laugh at the new zealand mosque massacre
Horseface Jacinda pulling frowns in a hijab (that shows off her hair..?) over what are essentially foreign colonizers, and a mosque with literal terrorist connections, was pretty funny. It's even funnier how quickly the New Zealanders rolled over after one lone wolf incident, and how spineless they are. I'd probably die of laughter if they all got butchered in the streets.
> holocaust
see before
> gay people
toxic histrionic subversives who are suffering from an unfortunate disability. Too bad HAART was invented
> rape jokes
who fucking cares
> call people who switch religions scum
It's not really about the religion, it's about order.

>>12690739
>mocking holocaust rememberace
how can you remember something that never happened l?

>>12693438
>>12699344
>>12699357

> If you think that is acceptable, you are one of them subhumans raised to only think about yourself and feel arrogant hatred to the world.
I actually come from the Balkans and niggers recapitulate the same behaviour I see over there, which is to say zero accountability and a sense that all their problems are due to ancestral rivalries, and they're gaining more power and they'll use it against the people they hate. You're rolling over and giving it to them. They (and their jobless tranny lackies) burned down cities and ordinary people fucking defended them, when they should have been gunned down in the streets. You really have no fucking concept of what you're facing and your sense of principle is only self-defeating. You are not being moral, you are a domesticated little bitch piggy and you will be butchered.
You need to get a grip and come to terms with who's on your side.

Really I've just run out of fucking patience, anon.

>>12699386
>>12699357
>>12699344
I don't know how to tell you this but the objective statements you think you are making are your own opinions and unsupported assertions, and I don't give a flying fuck in the world to hear another /pol/sheep with opinions like this

>>12699319
>>12699326
Schizo tier. Successful people are liberal because they have empathy and don't spend their free time wallowing in rage on radical imageboards

>>12688262
I have a PhD and I cringe whenever somebody calls me with a title, even with Mr

>>12688262
do the 8 yrs include bachelor and masters?

>>12693911
truth

>>12698898
Kek