/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12680024
>LETS MAKE TIME TRAVEL
What have you tried?

>>12680024
I'm with you. Let's make it happen.
I'll make the project logo.

>>12680062
Do you have an knowledge of maths and physics?? I have a phd in maths and a degree in chemistry but the idea of time travel has plagued me for years and i feel it is possible.

>>12680058
not yet i need a group of people to help my with this as its not an easy task lmao but to say it hasnt been on my mind for years would be a lie

dude, to travel in time you need dark energy, lmao

>>12680067
Can you get memory in twisted tube like coil, then cover it with slight deliberate layer of metal, split by two sides to the polarity of coil, and send charge from both direction to this gigantic coil? Trough mercury and in it's polarity?

>>12680024
just wait lmao

>>12680024
Alright I'll help you niggas out. Here's where you're going to start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester

The key to time travel is to cheat causality.

>>12680062
>>12680067
>>12680073

You can do it Anons!

>>12680024
Sounds good to me, i'm certainly not a big genius, but I've been in the crowsnest awhile, here are some ideas i've flagged.

> Ultra slow light in bose-einstein condensates
> Optical Phase conjugation
> electrodynamic models that dispense of in-compressible fields
> guage-free electrodynamic models
> casimir corkscrews
> Bohm-Ahronov effect
> gravatars

>>12680303
Gravity wave reversal and surfing?

here is a diagram of how to time travel

i am not going to explain it plese just look at it urself

>>12680333
hmm, checked. I'm not sure what a full reversal would look like, but at a smaller level, perhaps a gravity wave lag idea first. It seems to me that gravity waves travel with light waves. Summarized by the thought experiment that if the sun dematerialized, earth would orbit that spot for another 8 minutes, until the light stopped arriving.
Accordingly, If there was a way to slow down these signals relative to ones surroundings the force of gravity would act first on it, than on you, giving an anti-gravity like affect. Make the light orbit around you, I'd imagine the signal would never reach you. I'd hypothesize than that time would travel slower inside the craft, than outside, creating that early 2000's movie clockstoppers style timetravel.

pic related reminds me of surfing, the alcubierre warp metric

Step 1: turn on your CRT

Check out this logo.

>>12680412

>>12680405
What do we do if we don't have microwave ?

>>12680412

>>12680412
What about making that exponential lines which are recyrcled and stuff in that perspective being going on the ground surface from the line under it up until the horizont on the end, creating 3D space segments so it'll be something like valley out of a hills on the side.

>>12680543

time travelling insects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6MlaIe1ljs

>>12680547
>>12680543
What did they mean by this?

>>12680575
Just look on that creature, it's about your logo.

>>12680593
It looks like a tick.

Hi, I am Jon Tooker: the inventor of the time circuit...
https://pastebin.com/uHZrB238

Mundane events related to time travel.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1240030/pg1

John Titor, the Montauk Project, the e-Cat and Geometric Unity
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread966329/pg1

I am the anonymous physicist featured in the black hole article yesterday.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ukbz6/i_am_the_anonymous_physicist_featured_in_the/

>>12680609

>>12680609
Just finally admit you're not Tooker, but his AI, you look for mathematical model simillarities and post his work if you find some.

>>12680024
i want to time travel to 3000 AD

>>12680366
Can I get a red circle or something pls

>>12680659

>>12680024
I'm poor... can't buy pieces needed for experimentation

>>12680790

same boat. i'm just going to wait til i can simulate it with a decent Ai. And, then pitch it to the government when i have it running in the simulation. Although 1,000% sure they are already on it

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>>12680024
Righto, I'll name the project.
How about "Project Kronos"?

>>12680024

Okay so realistically speaking the only form of time travel that would even be thinkable currently would be going into the future.

Or more specifically, speed induced time dilation.

Basically we just gotta find a way to make someone move really fast for a long amount of time.

Possibly some sort or planet sized centrifuge or super jet.

To them time would effect them a lot slower and if they did a few days or a week of continuous FAST that would be the only way for them to notice a difference.

Technically it isn't time travel, it is just altering our perception on time and how it effects us.

>>12682571

*I mean there might be other ways but this seems the most "press friendly"

>>12680024
That's a fucking toaster.

>>12682591

And? What else are time travelers gonna use to make toast?

>>12680024
of course time travel means going to the past, because going to the future would be way too easy

>>12682639

Paradoxes in time travel are possibly world ending

Depends on what type of time the universe actually has.

If when we time travel we jump to another timeline then we are paradox free and don't have to worry about shit.

Or if we "re-wind" time (like the movie tenet) and the past cannot be changed not matter what, you don't have to worry about paradoxes. Because the moment a paradox could have happened it doesn't due to outside circumstances, possibly probability or multiverse branches.

If it is single timeline jumping, then yeah you are gonna fuck stuff up unless the universe corrects it automatically.

>>12680024
Jump into a black hole. Done.
>What about the past 125 million years blah blah blah
Wait for the black hole to absorb all matter in a 125 million light year radius. Time inside a black hole is infinite so you won't even feel it, any information that travels into the black hole is then stored inside it, going to the past involves just going deeper into the black hole. Done.

If the earth moves linearly along a 4th dimensional plane, what happens if you reversed it's trajectory along the temporal path? Also, do atoms have evidence of previous positioning and structure? Seems like manipulating the environment is a necessity for time travel unless there's some sort of subjective means.

>>12680062
I'll come up with a catchy slogan

>>12680067
>Do you have an knowledge of maths and physics
i have a calculator with all them scientific symbols on it

>>12682757
We have to get moving.
There are people already on this.

>>12683075
Virginity rocks!

>>12680366
but before space there was only time

>>12682709
If you reversed time gravity would go backwards since they are linked which is why Tenet is fucking stupid.

I remember seeing a documentary (I think it was arrow of time or times arrow or something similar) that said light has gravity. Because of this, if you took a beam of light or series of lasers, that were powerful enough, and created a spiraling funnel type shape, they would create a gravity field. Then you should shoot single photons down this funnel and this would allow the photons to travel back in time. I know I'm butchering this recounting of memory but maybe an anon saw the same documentary?

Time Travel is the quest for powered flight of our generation. What the attempt at powered flight must of looked like in the early 1890's. This topic , imo , should be permanent stickied/pinned until it is solved. But, sadly still considered woo.

Anyways, bump.

>>12684717
>of our generation
does it matter

>>12682591
lol

>>12684736

Absolutely. Time Travel holds the promise for lots of tricks. But one of the best is the possibility to gain decades, centuries, etc.... of research in seconds.

Our Society could advance centuries in years, everything could be solved. A Utopian society with no problems,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWa0EGPgHrs
On the topic of time travel, have any of you guys seen Tenet? What did you think of it? It's probably the first movie I've seen that portrays time travel in a """"realistic"""" way. Isn't there an idea that on the other side of black holes could be a universe where time flows backwards?

>>12682757
based
>>12680062
based
>>12680024
based

holy shit anons I'm proud of you. Let's do this

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>>12684080
What is the simplest experiment you can do to manipulate gravity? Something your average kid or layman could do in the kitchen.

>>12680024
First, you need a Tilt-a-Whirl. Build on that basic design

I can make a homepage

>>12680726
nasa

>>12684771
We know time and gravity are related because of gravitational time dilation. Gravity is a consequence of time even.

The glaring flaw in the "science" of Tenet is that the inverted are not repulsed by mass.

I don't even care about time travel just make it possible to stop time, I need days alone to put my head in place

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>>12687814

they were called vacations. Before the world went to shit

>>12680366
So. It’s like going to the nether in Minecraft and traveling 100 blocks, but you travel 800 blocks in the real world?

>>12680024
Behold- I will travel a month into the future and reply to this thread again.

I feel like it's easier to jump greater lengths of time than it ever could be to jump shorter distances of time.
1000 years? Easy
10 years? Fuck that.

Are we looking to create the time rip or are we going to look for our window of opportunity somewhere in space?

>>12682571
Hehe...
Dilation

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>>12680024
this is a retarded question, but is it possible to time travel through the internet? Meaning you can just go to the past or future and shitpost there. Network time travelling i guess.

another question, would a chronovisor, or timeviewer, a camera that can see into the past and/or future, are those possible?
please tell me why or why they are not possible

>>12689970
Casuality travels at the speed of light brother. Information cannot go backwards period.

>>12690695
so, can it travel forward?

>>12690701
Yes but not continuously or instantaneously. A time capsule is a basic example of sending information forward.

Gravitational time dilation would allow information to travel forward relatively as well. For example if 1 year passes in place A while 1 month passes in place B, you could send information from A to B and back to A after 1 month passes in B. This would technically be time traveling 11 months into the future.

>>12690758
Typo, I meant to say but only continuously and not instantaneously

>>12690758
interesting, so would it be possible to browse the internet into the future while being in the past?
>pls no bully if the question is retarded, i know nothing about this subject

>>12690771
Well it depends how you look at it. If you went to a place where time moved at a slower pace you could get posts from the future but only because your frame of reference is on Earth. Everyone on Earth would move very fast from your perspective, and you would move very slowly.

>>12680024
Step 1
>travel close to the speed of light away from the earth
Step 2
>travel close to the speed of light toward the earth
Congratulations, you have time traveled to the year 2021+X depending on your speed & you can just ask the autist of thousands of years from now how they time travel.

>>12690900
Maybe when you come back earth isn't there anymore, or at least not like you remembered it

>>12680024
I time travel every day. Unfortunately, I am limited to traveling one day into the future...

Time needs to exists in order for time travel to be possible. But since time does not exists and is just social construct then it's impossible.

>>12680067
>i feel it is possible
Even if it were possible it'd probably just be moving to another worldline like any time travel fiction.
Good luck!

>>12682571
>Basically we just gotta find a way to make someone move really fast for a long amount of time
Or you can dig deeper to earth's center and live there, probably wouldn't have the same level of effect but it works.

>>12686921
make a planet with equal weight of earth so they pull each other off and orbit endlessly around you

>>12689970
Sure if you got admin power over every website, you can delete all new content and restore it to however it was in whatever past year, that's what it means to time travel in internet I guess.

>>12680024
It would be irresponsible to randomly give out time travel to just anyone.

>>12680024
OK, I'll bite, OP. Someone answer me this question:
If previous states of the universe exist as accessible information, then where is this information "stored"? I.e. The position of every atom in the universe, their state, all at an exact time which can only be defined as "nanoseconds before present".
Where is this prior state recorded such that we can retrieve this state which all the matter and energy in the universe could be restored to?

I believe time travel is theoretically possible if every atom in a defined space were meticulously tracked and recorded simultaneously... in this case we would at least have a reference point to change the matter.

The second problem with time travel is manipulating the matter in the defined space to the desired "past" state, which really wouldn't be the past state.

>>12691790
You cannot map every particle in the universe without every particle in the universe. You can begin to generalize but then you're just predicting not transferring information backwards.

You cannot break causality. What is possible is observing potential states without actually observing using quantum entanglement. The applications of this are to negate the cost of observation, like with determining the state of a bomb.

>300k starting

>>12691790
Perhaps there is a dimension beyond the dimension of time space? Or maybe it's stored within timespace?

What happens if one were to theoretically be moved to a plane without the dimension of timespace? Do organisms exist within 4 dimensions, and is it possible to keep an organism alive when not located on one of these 4 dimensional planes?

does anyone have a way around this Pop Mechanics paywall:

China Swears It Isn't Building a Time Machine
Bizarre leaked documents started the rumors.
FEB 10, 2021

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a35470439/is-china-building-a-time-machine/?fbclid=IwAR0W6qMx9MznYmwkWLaSJnvvqYk-QOPVMqy59auUSkHIYapNMssT3tpykw4

>>12691841

300K what

>>12691576

it's ok we will sell tickets

The numbers at the end of the first Cicada puzzle were my DOB and SSN
>05211980
>600744301
as well as the viXra ID's from my earlier papers
>https://vixra.org/author/jonathan_w_tooker

>>12680024
Hello, I'm by no means highly educated so I'm open to criticism, but I have been thinking a lot about the nature of reality. I'm mainly concerned with why reality and logic exists as it does, and the quintessential "why" of these things existing in the first place. However, I think that if my ideas are realized and truly based in reality, then it could be used to do some amazing things, including time travel.

To travel through time, we have to understand the smallest intricacies that make our reality what it is. Currently the smallest level of activities we've observed (to my knowledge) is the fact that the universe is constantly, instantly creating and destroying particles. IIRC this is the phenomenon that accounts for Hawking radiation. What this translates to me, is that there is in fact a limitless propagating force. I often wonder if this force has any direct ties to dark matter and the exponential expansion of the universe, but I won't dive into that theory since it's not relevant (yet.)

Now let's talk about math. Math is what we use to describe physical reality, and in simple terms could be described as the language that makes up the code of this reality. I find the phenomenon of this constant and infinite creation of and annihilation of particle pairs to eerily fall in line with the fact that in math, there is obviously an infinite set of numbers. What I'm getting at is that I believe that discovering the nature of this phenomenon will get us a step closer to understanding the code of reality, giving us a logical explanation for the abundant reflections of mathematic principles, such as the golden ratio for one example, in physical nature . If these patterns and phenomenon are attributed to a constant propagating force that dictate how reality should function, then I believe that there is potentially a means of forcing matter to reflect this propagating force.

>>12692771
If you can develop classical electrogravity, then time travel is just a matter of using an electrical antenna to create a geodesic that leads to an earlier time. The antenna might be very complicated (it probably is) but the geodesic itself is pretty simple.

>>12692771
If I had to speculate, I believe this propagating force that makes reality what it is, is a physical manifestation of the infinite code that exists as a result of a logical constant that it itself dictates, where 0 cannot exist with out 1, as these numbers give each other value, and if 1 is possible, then so is the rest of the infinite string of numbers. I believe that if this is some sort of constant force that makes up the nature of reality, then we will be able to eventually find a means of forcing matter to reflect this on an observable scale. If we can do that, we can find a way to harness the code of reality and use it to our will, which could make a lot of things possible, maybe even time travel

>inb4 meds
Alcohol and pills don't mix
>nonsense
probably, but I don't think there's anyone alive who can say for sure why anything at all exists for any reason.

>>12692823
>>inb4 meds

gonna need meds and red bulls to build this fuckin shit

Time Machine 2030!

>>12692812
Now you're thinking with that big 'ol ape brain. I believe that the means of harnessing the code of reality to our desires will be through a careful manipulation of electro magnetism in such a way that it first reflects properties of this code, from there we can decode everything else, allowing us to utilize all of the available tools such as electro gravity (if it's legit, I've heard conflicting opinions)

>>12692869
Bro I wanna so bad. I just want us to be a space faring civilization already. Is that too much to ask for?

>>12692885
>Bro I wanna so bad. I just want us to be a space faring civilization already. Is that too much to ask for?

i love the idea of a group of us building it, the TTU. i dont know about space ships.

but, my plan B is wait til Deep Mind is far enough along, 2029, and then just brute force it

>>12692909
I fascinate over having a meetup of the industrious minds of /sci/ and working on a project of any kind together, it would be a hell of an experience. I have ideas for a lot of prototype machine that I want to build, but doing it with frens would make it better. You're probably right though, AI is most likely going to brain out all of this shit for us and save us the work. Until then, we should keep to old fashioned thinking.

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>>12680024
Wait wait does anyone know anything about time crystals? Is it just a popsci name or do they have something to do with movement / entropy through time?

I think I know how to build a time machine but the budget is very high like a CERN'S budget. So is imposible for me to try to make it work

>>12693083
Alright then, keep your secrets

Not possible even in Minecraft.

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i'll make the logo

>>12682678
Could you actually move freely inside or would you be frozen like inside of a (reconstructed, I guess) snapshot?

>>12693659

we already have

a flying Delorean

I cant believe no one has mentiined putting one mouth of a wormhole on earth and one mouth on a ship traveling at 99% c for a year one way and 99% c back to earth and brought the mouths back yogetuer you could use them to travel back in time to when you made the wormhole

>>12680024
You need to start by defining the goal. You are already time traveling 1 second per second.

Now, do you want negative seconds per second or >1 per second?

>>12693058
The running theory is that crystals were once used for data storage similar to compact discs in a prior civilization lost to a nuclear war. But if you hear it's related to time travel, please do post.

I am a total layman, so this might be retarded. I remember hearing some popsci bullshit, that time might be a four spacial dementionalm object passing through a three spacial demension universe. Now there are a number of porblems with this, but asuming it were true, it would be theoretycaly possible to move saied object, but only from outside the universe. In a similar vain, not quite related to the topic, i wanted to ask: these fields in which ripples propegate to make matter.. What are they? What is this soupe in which virtual particles exist. And what is space expanding into?
Cheers t.some idiot

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>>12680024
Time is a posterior attribute of the motion of objects in relation to one another. You may go forwards in time or even diagonally but you could never go back within regard to your original position.

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>>12692439
>300K what
300k starting

>>12683075
so you can be a virgin in every past and future epoch?
sweet

>>12680303
>Ultra slow light in bose-einstein condensates.

Might be on to something. Time is really only defined as we feel it, so delaying the senses would work in warping time relatively. If we turn some type of contraption on that slows our senses, leave it on for a while, then turn it off, you only feel the slowed time, then warp forward to real time when you shut the contraption off.

So, how is your research going anons? Y-you are making steps forward, right?

>>12696798
'fraid so

>>12696514
It's almost room temperature, what do you want to achieve with that?

>>12680024
try reversing entropy FAGGOT

>>12680058
>What have you tried?

Running as fast as I can to test out time dialation.

>>12696798
A question comes to mind. How do 2nd dimensional objects move along 3 dimensional planes? Is it possible for them to interact with a higher dimension internally or is external influence the only method? Perhaps a detail lies in that, though if we can mathematically deduce higher dimensions, perhaps it is a matter of manipulating a specific variable.

>>12697233
Anon!! Anon tell me which direction you plan to run, and when.

I will run in the OPPOSITE direction.

That way, the time between us will dilate 2x as fast.

I'll do it, I'll record it and everything just tell me what to do.

>>12680024
op if you travel at the speed of light would you eventually be able to eat your own ass?

Here's a new take an anon gave me on time travel. Think of time travel as teleportation. How do you preserve your current state as you move closer to an event? Think about stars and how we can observe one's that have been dead for millions of years. How do you approach that star as we see it from earth, not as it you see it from the star itself?

I don't know guys.... I have a bad feeling about this.....

>>12698657

i need one of those vests

Time traveling isn't the answer. Multi-dimensional travel is. It seems much more feasible, and we could just travel to another dimension that is our dimension but years before or years ahead of us. We could harvest resources from these dimensions, or collaborate with the other dimensions to arrive at solutions to "impossible" problems. The possibilities are limitless and theres no butterfly effect.

>>12680024
Sure, this is easy.
Let reality be defined as a set all elements whos actions are defined by an N length string of causality bounded by all that is, excluding all that isn't. Then, belonging to this set exists a proper set defined as any length string of elements. This proper set, bounded by the causality of its parent set is therefore a perceiver. Let time be a bounding factor which is determined by the perceiver, the string length between two permutation of the reality set. Implicitly I have acknowledged a recursive process bounding the causal relationship among the elements of the reality set. Let's call this process "will." Let us then define time travel by these premises; time travel is the will of the element(s) within the reality set, to traverse the N length string, which results in a permutation of reality for the willed instance. By accepting this generalizing process we then acknowledge the only means of time travel to be cultivating mass. Hallowed be thy gains. Praise Jesus. Amen.

>>12699181

you are wise Anon

>>12699181
How does that work if we haven't had contact with these other theoretical dimensions yet? Would that imply that we're the first to discover the secret of dimensional travel, or is it a matter of observation at a quantum level?

>>12680024
time travel is impossible simply because the very concept of time is nothimg more than that, just a concept. It's not a "real" thing, it's merely something us humans made up to grasp reality in a better way

>>12699875
What do memories record then? How do cause and effect work?

>>12699881
that's irrelevant to my post, what I meant was that physics, reality as a whole, only exists in the present. There's no future nor past in the study of reality.

>>12699892
Oh you're referring to the first of 3 in pic related?

>>12699901
yes
also know as the only valid one

>>12699903
In summary, the past no longer exist as it is no longer the present, and the future never exists as the present never comes? As a result, prediction and calculation made in the present do not allude to the future but merely function on the concept of causality? Does this mean that mathematics as a whole is a blue print for the causality of the universe at any given point?

>>12699916
I'm glad we're on the same page

If we can figure out how to generate artificial gravity (not centrifugal) we could manipulate dark energy and form wormholes. Accelerate one mouth of it and we can go find dinosaurs or put the Grandfather Paradox to the test.

>>12699923
Likewise, though with that established, does that invalidate the concept of parallel realities/universes?

>>12699966
that's as likely as God, take that as you want

So gravitational time dilation is the most plausible route at this point in time, right? Anyone catch that recent video by PBS Space Time? The idea that gravity doesn't slow time, but that slow time creates gravity blew my mind.

we could just use an electron entangled with a positron and use the positron to interact with electronics in extremely minuscule ways or alter early computer calculations using and altering our electron in the present, the only downside with this is that we can only alter the past.

We could just send our consciousness/mind/soul to the past, the physics behind it adds up, and for you that say source.

this proves the soul and mind existent as their own universal constant

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000400330013-4.pdf

https://m.fark.com/comments/1203844/last

some interesting leads on this site from one poster (aught to be obvious)

>>12699181
>passive vacuum decay isn't enough, lets just rip the entire universe apart
hubris anon, we will never have that potential.

infinite mass is easy if you have an extra dimension laying around

>>12700177
ch-checked is this the answer bros?

>>12697571
Yeah, anyway I need a draft of the project for Monday. You're making progress on the project right, anon?

>>12680024
Traveling forward in time seems like a more feasible idea though backwards will probably require some rediculous amount of energy

>>12680024
I'm brainstorming here, but wouldn't one fundamental problem for reversing the arrow of time be that you are reversing the flow of causality? Every physical interaction in the Universe is simultaneous in time and interconnected by the full energy of all the reactions that proceeded in a chain of causes, so wouldn't you need basically a reversal of all that universal energy to cause the reactions to reverse? I don't think that makes sense, but I'm trying to explain it. Main point: wouldn't it require a crazy amount of energy to reverse time, and how could it be localized and not universal if we live in a block universe of eternalism?

In order to reverse causality, would you have to manipulate variables at a quantum level?

>>12701861
Read a fucking book anon, dirac or something.

If pic related and presentism are held true, would that mean that time travel boils down to speed or velocity in a particular direction in order to influence the sequence of events?

>>12701864

so complicated

Here's my autistic time travel idea. No basis in fact and with no evidence, but still.

0---------------------2020
0-----------------1995
0----------1950
0------1905

If enough gravitational force is put on, you can 'break through' to another timeline

>>12703043
this wouldn't work at all

>>12700337
That shit's very smart. I'll email some guys see if I can hook us up with some positrons.

>>12703043

maybe

>>12680024
As i said in other, worse thread-
Time dialate one mouth of a wormhole but not the other then bring them back together. This is the only way i know of to go back. You will probably need to blow one up from the planck scale Foam using some manipulation of the Casimir Effect or, if you want to be a bro, figure out negative mass/matter/energy density for us. Ive also thought you might be able to create a ring of rapidly spinning black holes in a toroidal magnetic field. Or a superconducting fractal ring with sufficient energy density to distort spacetime/ gravity. Or spin a black hole up using a series of 'kicks' by firing other small spinning BHs at it at predetermined trajectories. When you get it going fast enough, the inner and outer EHs will merge and vanish, producing a beautiful naked singularity. Use this ring shaped singularity to hold open your wormhole.

>>12703789

fascinating

>>12680240
underrated

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I know something about time travel, but I am physically incapable of conveying details of that information.

I'm sorry, but I know for a fact that no one here will ever experience utilizing time travel, to go into the past.

All that aside, the first step of "making time travel" is reconciling general relativity's inconsistencies with observations.

>>12680024

>>12706038

i will

>>12686921
You would need lead weights and basically a quartz string with a rod carefully perfectly centered / attached to the string in the center of the rod.

Repeat / keep the rod in a vacuum/ windless room. Repeat the fundamental "G measuring" experimental procedures and tell us your results.

Put the weights as close to the rod as possible but slightly not touching obviously.

>>12682672
Not necessarily, is this single timeline is looped into itself

>>12680024
I could easily make a time machine. I choose not to due to fear of the repercussions.

N

>>12680412
Explain why it look like bagina?

Lmao just jump inside the outer event horizon of the kerr black hole

>>12689970

>Interdimensional shitposting on 4chan

Don't tempt us, anon.

>>12680024
>Put all your time into making time travel.

>Don't do that and enjoy time as it is naturally.

Why would I want to invent time travel? People would use it to go back in time and fuck shit up so that I wouldn't exist anymore.

before the land before time
there was a time before land

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>>12703789
Wormholes are impossible.

>>12682672
I don't think paradoxes exist. If we take the Grandfather Paradox for example, then it would be just stupid if you were to vanish out of nowhere.

What I think would happen is that you'd just keep on living in this time where you were never born.

There's no reason for you in the past to be connected to you in the future (the you who traveled back in time). Therefore nothing happens when you meet your old self (other than a weird conversation).

As for what happens to the old future you just came from, I think I'd have to go with the World-lines explanation, but with a twist since I don't think you'd actually create another world line, but instead that you'd just live on a different time-plane than you where on before you went back in time. Basically, you're actions won't effect the other time you just came from. This is obviously the case since you aren't the center of the universe, and everything doesn't revolve around how you perceive it. So instead of thinking about it like different world lines, think of it more like a supertask of leaves flowing down a river. When you travel back in time, You just simply jump the another leaf. Whatever happens on the new leaf you just jumped to could easily be different from the leaf you just were on, but no matter what, the leaves never touch/effect each other.

This explanation successfully avoids paradoxes while also making sense based on logic. You have to keep the simple laws of the universe in check while making these explanations. I thinks that's how we will arrive at the most likely explanation of time travel.

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>>12684771
Watch Primer

>>12711853

that movie hurt my brain

>>12680024
Let's start by reviewing and discussing the currently available literature on the subject. I'm attaching the files I have from my own library with libgen and arxvi links. If these seem more pop-sci than hard science, I apologize, but time travel is an extremely sensationalized subject to begin with, so it's hard to sift through nonsense to find good science.

"Back-in-Time and Faster-than-Light Travel in General Relativity" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=A8B57EC6A77477000CF393A1BB29E078

"Paradoxes of Time Travel" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=F8D3B82E5B97467702B2681607C2B4EB

"Time Travel & Warp Drives" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=7CC2F25A97363E540F4A2E314F77F4F0

"Godel Meets Einstein : Time Travel in the Godel Universe" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9C905A38867AE53B548D3C6EB2A8BDE6

"Extra Dimensions in Space & Time" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=C0DEE35E93424B7B75CE09B0B85E3257

"Cosmic Update: Dark Puzzles. Arrow of Time. Future History" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=AB27CE89B537AB8BC9FB00452C54D524

"Quantum Physics, Mini Black Holes, and the Multiverse" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1A3B135750A0739130C98C156794FC33

"Time Travel - Probability & Impossibility" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9A05149E90B5F382F768C973B99D7E10

"Time Travel Physics for Beginners" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=86EF453500AD452418386C154A02B0B9

"Build Your Own Time Machine" http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=776180FD8ECD35FBF0728CBB18CC7903

>>12712901
Continuing with technical papers...

https://arxiv.org/abs/1407.2528
https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.6197
https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.04178
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2101/2101.08592.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.06824.pdf
https://pages.uoregon.edu/imamura/123cs/lecture-11/images/PhysRevD.44.1077.pdf
https://authors.library.caltech.edu/9262/1/MORprl88.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11590
http://cansl.isr.umd.edu/simonlab/pubs/SimonPhysWorld1994.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.4933
https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.02511
https://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5847
https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.12677
https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0612015.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0612015
https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0109029.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.11590
https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.12129
https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.1006
https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.08214
https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.7983

>>12712901
>>12712955

nice lists

>>12682757
So, how is the slogan coming along?

>>12680062
Ok, anon, we could make it, but we need the first logo designs for the final steps. So whats your proposals?

>>12713826
>So, how is the slogan coming along?

"I dont know? This is the Time Travel Dept."

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>>12680412
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If time travel were possible, then by proxy timelines would exist, otherwise time travel would be invented in the future and we'd get to observe it today. It would cause paradoxes and what not. So the key to time travel, if possible, is jumping from timeline to timeline. Now how THAT'S possible is, well, beyond me.

>>12715761

it's possible, just super complicated. it's going to take an Ai to put it all together

like the protein folding thing , we just need to piece it together in the mean time

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>>12699901
>>12702180
So if everything exists at once and what varies is the order we perceive things, does that mean the universe is in a super positional state, similar to what you see at a quantum level? Does spacetime have a beginning and end in the same manner we perceive things linearly or is the current concept of time as a whole built off of simultaneity?

>>12716813

What do you mean by "protein folding thing"? How is that going to lead us to time travel?

>>12680457
We'll get mayuri to buy us one and pretend it's for "juicy chicken number one"

>>12720029
WOW!