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My understanding of quantum physics is weak and I have a serious interest in electrons. So when you're talking about spinors and electrons I kind of get the principle of a spinor concerning a 3 dimensional object like for example idk a miniature horse idol and how during a revolution it could revolver to face a direction opposite its original revolution but I imagine in any practical theoretical physics structure a particle to not be three dimensional and so surely they're not talking about the orientation of the particle itself, so could someone explain please? Discussion of other quantum particles is cool too.

>> No.12676059
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>>12676048
The lines are probability densities, this video is a simplified version

>> No.12676061

>>12676059
Probability density of the location of the electron?

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>>12676059
Less simplified

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>>12676048
>My understanding of quantum physics is weak and I have a serious interest in electrons.
Read this.

>> No.12676069

>>12676059
Concerning probability my current understanding of an electron puts it everywhere simultaneously within it's orbital.

>> No.12676075

>>12676067
I'm drunk and I want to fight you so I will

>> No.12676084

>>12676061
No, probability densities of the electron interacting with anything along the paths

>> No.12676087

>>12676075
Is it your wish to die? What do you want to fight about?

>> No.12676095

spinors be all like little bitch rotations until you start tracing continuous paths through their space, homie

>> No.12676107

>>12676087
Sorry. On account of confusion, for I wish for a straight thread. When someone asks a question and someone recommends a book, perhaps, usually, sometimes, that isn't a reasonable response except also yes I actually would love to hear everything dirac has to say about electrons.

>> No.12676111

>>12676084
Dig that

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>>12676107
You are here to learn the mysteries of kung fu, not electrons. If you don't get me I'll communicate with you like I would a dog, when I yell, when I point, when I beat you with my stick. If you want to eat like a dog... You can live and sleep outside like a dog. If you want to live and sleep like a human... ...open up that dirac book and get ready to do some actual science, brainlet.

>> No.12676132

>>12676084
Furthermore when I said 'so I will' I meant to say 'so I will read the book'

Because your suggestion makes me want to fight you I'll read the book

>> No.12676134

>>12676128
Yo give me the spinor in respect to the electron particle

>> No.12676140

>>12676134
And actually I am here for the electron but I am willing to learn king fu for it

>> No.12676180

>>12676128
Let me tell you of my king fu with >>12676132 Prefacing. I wanted to turn blue so I made silver nitrate. I found it distasteful and toxic so I wanted to turn it into silver chloride. I was surprised to see that that this could be done with table salt. I imagined the relationship between sodium and chloride to be stronger than the relationship between silver and nitrate, so this prompted my interest in electron orbital theory.

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>>12676048
> I have a serious interest in electrons

>> No.12676271

>>12676180
I mean I guess the weight of the silver atom attracts the superiority of the chloride anion except a. silver doesn't dissociate in hydrochloric acid but only nitric acid so that's interesting >>12676236
I strongly considered saying 'but' instead of 'and

>> No.12676313

>>12676271
And by superiority I mean chlorine is the third most electronegative element so naturally its effect should be powerful

>> No.12676338

>>12676048
>>understanding of quantum physics is weak
>talking about spinors
You are trying to do a triathlon without knowing how to walk, tread in water, or cycle without training wheels. None of this will make sense without a solid background in the fundamentals.

>> No.12676461

Is it like this? If an electron has a spin of 1/2 then its trajectory should be at zenith after one rotation

>> No.12676471

>>12676338
Well spinors are mathematics and electrons are

I mean I have an associates

>> No.12676480

>>12676048
it’s the wave function of the electron that changes its phase by 180 when you rotate around it by 360

>> No.12676491

>>12676461
My understanding of the electron ergh I want to say is strong I want to say my understanding of the electron is strong in atomic science and I can bridge the gap between chemistry and quantum mechanics but how do we calculate a non three dimensional object in a spinor

>> No.12676497

>>12676480
What is it's phase

That is its coming or going?

>> No.12677024

>>12676497
no, the phase doesn’t have anything to do with coming or going or any classical property of a particle. one way the phase manifests is e.g. in the double slit experiment where in the path integral certain paths interfere constructively and others destructively leading to an interference pattern—this has to do with the phase