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If God isn't real, then explain fruit. Especially bananas. They are LITERALLY made for human consumption. If humans are just another animal why does nature specifically create food for us? A dog can't open a banana for example, they're made for human hands. Science to this day still can't explain why nature gives us free food.

>> No.12665529

>>12665517
Which god?

>> No.12665533

>>12665529
There is only one God and that is the Christian one, irrelevant question.

>> No.12665534

>>12665529
obviously OP's god

>> No.12665540

>>12665529
>>12665533
There is only one God, all monotheistic religion refer to the same God, all polytheistic religion are false.

>> No.12665547
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12665547

god gave us some bitter as fuck fruits to work with

>> No.12665550

>>12665517
evolution, monkeys

>> No.12665552

>>12665517
If you dont believe in god, explain noses. They fit right into glasses. The human nose seems specifically designed to fit into glasses. And the ears are also part of the designe. If we didnt have ears, what would hold our glasses? humans are obviously intelligently designed. Thats proof of god right there.

>> No.12665553
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>>12665547
>here's your banana bro

>> No.12665555 [DELETED] 

>>12665517
>If humans are just another animal why does nature specifically create food for us?
Your whole post is bait. But I'll reply for retards who come here and don't know the answer.
As for this particular line you mentioned, non-human primates (monkeys for example) can open bananas.
Your general question on why we have fruit in general has to key points. Firstly, we have domesticated and selectively bred fruit so that there is a greater proportion of nutritional content. In the past they used to have a higher proportion of seeds, before we selectively bred for less seeds.
Picture related is a wild banana. It has a higher proportion of seeds to nutrition.
Now if you're above average intelligence this will probably lead you to the correct conclusion.
Fruit evolved for animals to eat. Because animals can move, whereas trees cannot move. The animals eat the fruit (which contains a lot of seeds) then shit those seeds out somewhere else. This means that in nature: trees with genes for fruit with a lot of seeds will outperform trees with fruit without a lot of seeds.
But then why isn't the entire fruit made of seeds? Well because then animals wouldn't eat it. You can see non-human primates and other animals have learned how to check if a fruit is ripe or worth eating. In fact, this is suspected to be part, but not all, of why color vision evolved.
So this should answer your question overall. Fruit evolved by chance because plants which produced fruit containing seeds had more offspring than plants that didn't produce fruit.
Why don't fruits today contain a lot of seeds? Because humans have manipulated reproduction of these plants.
However, as you may surmise, evolution can produce fruit-bearing plants. If God is real, God could have made plants which produce fruit.
Whether God exists or not, there is a reason why fruit-bearing plants exist.

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>>12665517
>If humans are just another animal why does nature specifically create food for us?
Your whole post is bait. But I'll reply for retards who come here and don't know the answer.
As for this particular line you mentioned, non-human primates (monkeys for example) can open bananas.
Your general question on why we have fruit in general has two key points. Firstly, we have domesticated and selectively bred fruit so that there is a greater proportion of nutritional content. In the past they used to have a higher proportion of seeds, before we selectively bred for less seeds.
Picture related is a wild banana. It has a higher proportion of seeds to nutrition.
Now if you're above average intelligence this will probably lead you to the correct conclusion.
Fruit evolved for animals to eat. Because animals can move, whereas trees cannot move. The animals eat the fruit (which contains a lot of seeds) then shit those seeds out somewhere else. This means that in nature: trees with genes for fruit with a lot of seeds will outperform trees with fruit without a lot of seeds.
But then why isn't the entire fruit made of seeds? Well because then animals wouldn't eat it. You can see non-human primates and other animals have learned how to check if a fruit is ripe or worth eating. In fact, this is suspected to be part, but not all, of why color vision evolved.
So this should answer your question overall. Fruit evolved by chance because plants which produced fruit containing seeds had more offspring than plants that didn't produce fruit.
Why don't fruits today contain a lot of seeds? Because humans have manipulated reproduction of these plants.
However, as you may surmise, evolution can produce fruit-bearing plants. If God is real, God could have made plants which produce fruit.
Whether God exists or not, there is a reason why fruit-bearing plants exist.

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12665561

>>12665517
>here's your banana bro

>> No.12665568

I love to hear christians explain why males have nipples. Does god have nipples? Does he have a penis and testes? If not then why is he a male? If yes then for what purpose?

>> No.12665571

Adaptations are changes that are positively selected for. For instance if something helps you access food inaccessable to others thats definitely a positive adaptation. Beaks of various birds are a good example of this.
So on the one hand, we adapted to a niche, food in that niche wasnt designed for us. Later through selective breeding we made the food in our niche more easely consumable.
I know its easyer to just say god did it, but there are ral answers out there. its just that real answersa are complex and take effort to learn and understand.

>> No.12665578

>>12665568
God is genderless, he can make anything he wants and transform into anything. Your question is pointless

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>>12665529
This one.

>> No.12665648

>>12665568
dick is a symbol of power, would make sense for an omnipotent being to have one.

>> No.12665652

>>12665568
You’re an idiot who thinks God is human

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>>12665517
Good luck convincing the midwits on this board.

>> No.12665662

>>12665656
That's you on the left

>> No.12665663

Obvious bait

>> No.12665675
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>>12665656

>> No.12665684

You fucking retard, this is not a natural banana. Its the result of cultivation and selective polination. Real bananas are almost football shaped and filled with seeds, and very little fruit. Our bananas as we consume them can not reproduce in nature since they have no more seeds. Humans shaped the banana as it looks now, not god. Go fuck that bible of yours and spout your bullshit in church rather than here

>> No.12665688

>>12665533
holy based

>> No.12665693

>>12665684
God created the fruit and the grains for the mesopotamians and mesoamericans.

>> No.12665703

>>12665533
Your favourite god, the christian god, acknowledges other gods in your very first commandment: "thou shalt have no other gods before me". Perhaps you are right and your favourite god is wrong?

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>>12665540
>>12665540
Your favourite god comes with exactly the same amount of supporting evidence as the thousands of other gods that you know are fake. That amount is zero.

>> No.12665709

>>12665652
You're an idiot who thinks god is

>> No.12665712

>>12665693
Which god?

>> No.12665718

>>12665712
Irrelevant to the premise. Could be YHWH, the Annunaki, an ancient (A)I buried deep underground or operating through the vast mycellium network, or perhaps giants who still reside in the inner Earth. Perhaps they were created as is, perhaps they were created by altering another species, perhaps they used their own knowlegde of selective breeding and hybridization to facilitate their creation, then bestowing onto the people/ Alternatively, they were brought in from elsewhere.

It makes little difference.

>> No.12665719

>>12665709

You literally cannot prove its existence one way or the other, you sad asshole.

>> No.12665733
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12665733

>>12665675
>>12665662
Hello there, my dear midwits.
How do you do?

>> No.12665741

>>12665718
It's absolutely relevant. The proliferation of wildly different gods across the eons around the globe clearly shows that people are fond of making shit up, and that scammers can spot a good opportunity to separate idiots from their cash.

>> No.12665743

>>12665719
Disprove the tooth fairy

>> No.12665745

>>12665733
Retarded pic. Even hardcore theologians admit to that this existence is unending torment, it's embedded in almost all theologies worldwide. Buddhism itself was founded on the great question on the origin of human suffering.

>>12665741
It is totally and wholly irrelevant to anything whatsoever. The dominant power always organizes and modualtes the masses through stories and popular notions of how to tell right from wrong, what is vlauable, what si the good way to live your life, how to be a good person in society, and so on. This is used to gain and maintain their power, via the priest class. The priest class of today has simply become scientists, it is little different.

These have no bearing on analyzing such ideas. Logic is logic.

>> No.12665748

I'm working towards a science degree.... is this what this board is usually like? I don't think I'll come back.

>> No.12665749

>>12665733
Glory be to which god?

>> No.12665750

>>12665745
Typical midwit, letting other think for you.
You choose what you believe in.

>> No.12665752

>>12665748
Yes. This is it.

>> No.12665757

>>12665750
>You choose what you believe in.
And by what metric do you choose?

>> No.12665758

>>12665745
>The priest class of today has simply become scientists, it is little different.
Laughable garbage. The scientific method relies on observation of evidence. The religion scam relies on making shit up.

>> No.12665765

>>12665758
Nah. Funding and politics are the same as ever. You just follow along and don't ever try to break their case, same as any poor catholic sitting in the pews and not even owning his own bible.

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>>12665733

>> No.12665771

>>12665765
Confirmed tard, or liar, or both.

>> No.12665776
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12665776

>>12665749
>>12665770
>>12665757
Look at those hypocrites, rejecting faith yet having faith in this liberal, intellectual, full of corruption and lies world.
This world is a product of something with great intelligence, not just chaos and randomness.
Randomness is a lie, as it is no more than a product of ignorance.
Don't listen to the midwits who all think alike.
Laws cannot be "randomly" generated. Intelligence lies behind those.

>> No.12665777

>>12665749
My god, who is the realest god that ever existed and so much better than any other god. I know that he is, because my religious book says so. Also, my IQ is 150.

>> No.12665785

>>12665771
Confirmed needy.