/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12663555
Ahem, sweaty, Boing gave the FAA Administrator a large charitable donation, SapceX did no such kind act. Now SpaceX has to pay the price for not respecting the rules.

>>12663583
>meme shape
>meme engines
>meme fuel
>meme materials

Designed to fail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIMrn9BE_bU

I wonder if bezos is afraid of dying before a legacy. If at heart he really envies the folk-lore like position Musk attained.

I wonder if Bezos will get quite more agressive with pumping massive amounts of money into development here on out.
Bezos is near 60, musk is 48. The window they have isn't actually that big. I would not be surprised to see large space projects announced in 5-10 years. Like beyond mega constellations.

Where Musk puts boots on Mars.
Bezos plays second fiddle to the first iteration of the US space base. Then spear heads a private effort with a coalition of US actors to prop up legitimacy.

>>12663623
I don’t see how those side boosters lift it

>>12663559
When I read his statement on wiki yesterday, I guess somebody edited it to say "my other passions like giving away free bananas". I honestly thought that was true lol.
Like some silicon valley or Amazon insider joke

>>12663642
the bigger ones are like half a kilometer tall

>>12663559
Reminder that Musk is the USSR and Bezos is the US.
Musk may have been ahead in the beginning but Bezos, especially since he's now stepping down from his CEO role at Amazon, is going to make Blue Origin into a juggernaut. Space X won't be able to compete.

https://youtu.be/UnMGp164-ok new colt review from Soichi

>>12663632
I'm sure it weighs on him. I can't imagine how it would feel to be the richest man in the world and still feel your accomplishments dwarfed by some dweeb from South Africa.

>>12663669
Isn't Bezos #2 now?

>>12663662
Cute comparison but the US caught up to the USSR within months not years. Blue Origin better start flying New Glenn soon or else they'll get left behind

>S-SLS-sama
>I kneel

>>12663673
nah, he caught back up

>>12663674
The USSR was ahead for quite a long time

>>12663623
God gave us the gift of being able to built this and we desecrate his name and commit heresy by not launching to the stars on nukes

>>12663667
*food
Now what the fuck was that autocorrect

>>12663667
Gah I bet the JAXA food is absolutely delicious

>>12663659
Yea but then you are building like 50 meter wide nozzles and how does that work
Height of rockets scales by thrust to weight, a 500 meter tall chemical rocket simply doesn’t physically work

And then the Orion vehicle is absolutely massive compared to these boosters, no way they would lift it

If dubs, SN10 will tip totally over during the transition to the bellyflop

>>12663667
I cannot speak this man's language, but I can read his emotions. This is kino.

How do /sfg/ anons cope with the fact that the world is getting worse and worse and worse, and will soon be irrecoverable ?

>>12663692
>Height of rockets scales by thrust to weight, a 500 meter tall chemical rocket simply doesn’t physically work
Solid rockets get thrustier as they get taller, burn longer as they get wider. They're backwards.

>>12663694
Nope not today, although that would be funny to see. Sort of wish SN8 fucked it up so we could have at least gotten a show. I think at this point the flip has pretty much been understood and worked out, if not mastered

>>12663698
the oligarchs ran rampant in the 1920s too and we fixed that

>>12663698
Everything is fine, all things considered. We are in the good times, not the bad

the 1am is still go right
the 5am died

>>12663680
Yes but only by months. Sputnik and Explorer had launch dates separated by 4 months. Gagarin's and Glenn's orbital flights were separated by 10 months. Meanwhile SpaceX's Dragon 2 is flying people now while Blue Origin's New Shephard has yet to do so despite existing for 6 years. If Blue Origin has some sleeper hit capability then they are hiding it well

>>12663679
>>12663673
their money is also in stocks that if liquidiated would tank the price. Like companies implode all the time in the long term. The clock for them is ticking. Them raising the same level of wealth in the future is impossible.

People need to understand that the money they burn on space. Will not lead to them being rich. Britian lost a lot of money on it's empires. Not to mention the price of exploration. As a whole it's gonna be a mess.

>>12663698
Dont worry most people are waking up on the tribe and their actions

>>12663712
China alarms me because they’re technically an enemy, but I ultimately I think a society such as theirs is better prepared to combat (((them))).

>>12663706
Looks absolute shit to me. Decadence and decay and degeneracy are promoted.

>>12663719
China is structured in such a way that it requires moral actors on top to avoid corruption. Each successive change in leadership will be less and less moral until it's completely corrupt, as all governments that require strong men at the head inevitably end.

>>12663700
SRB’s have their limits too
You can’t just get 10 times the thrust out of a given area

Is there any reason to expect the next Starship tests to happen more frequently as they keep doing them? I don't to wait two months between launches

>>12663705
What oligarchs are you talking about?

>>12663724
China is amoral. They just want to dominate everyone else.

>>12663705
Those oligarchs wanted to make money, but most of the oligarchs today seem more interested in relentlessly attacking the people of their host nation until the country is a husk with no future.

>>12663725
>You can’t just get 10 times the thrust out of a given area
You can if you stack it tall enough. The SLS SRBs are 20% taller than a Shuttle SRB for 10% more thrust.

>>12663729
Less then two months? maybe.
Less then one month? No way.
I'll be happy if they do, but I wouldn't put money on it.

>>12663724
>China is structured in such a way that it requires moral actors on top to avoid corruption. Each successive change in leadership will be less and less moral until it's completely corrupt, as all governments that require strong men at the head inevitably end.
This has happened a gorillion times already in Chinese history, and is what causes dynastic changes. They call it "losing the Mandate of Heaven."

>>12663736
welded by miguel :'(

>>12663729
Well it’s already sitting out there right now, so straight away it’s faster than sn9, I imagine these investigations will be a pain in the ass, but they can still do their cryo and static fire tests while it’s going on and the other prototypes are well on their way with sn11 and bn1 not far behind and the sn15 will apparently be much different so we shall see how much it’s improvements have actually improved.

>>12663747
How long until the next warring states period? And would it go nuclear?

>>12663765
Dynasties usually last a few centuries, and the last change was less than a century ago

>>12663765
>How long until the next warring states period?
Had Trump been reelected I'd say next year. Even now I'd say by 2030 or so because after that their age demographics are all wrong for war of any kind.
>And would it go nuclear?
Probably.

>>12663767
If China had demographic problems, they’d grow people in test tubes and set up breeding camps, not import foreigners

>>12663777
They literally don't have enough women to do it the old fashioned way thanks to the one-child policy.

>>12663780
They have 30 million more men than women because they kept killing girls so if anything their population is perfect for war and besides I don’t see why they can’t lose some people, it’s not like they need massive amounts of people anymore with automation and technology making many jobs obsolete. They could lose literally a hundred million and still be well over a billion.

>>12663746
For SN10 and SN11 I wouldn't be surprised if they rushed through testing for them and then resumed a more normal cadence with SN15+

>>12663794
Automation is a meme and hasn’t replaced very many jobs

>>12663805
Bro haven't you seen Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

>>12663805
Eventually it will and China will have an awful lot of unemployed people with nothing to do which tends to result in bad shit.

>>12663805
as somebody who creates software specifically meant to deprecate humans, the vast majority of companies could automate away 80% of their workforce, but haven't yet because the software is too expensive to produce and maintain. We're at the "automation is possible" step, but we're not at the "automation is cost effective" step yet.

>>12663662
Nobody is going to take BO seriously because they haven’t launched anything into orbit and their goals are a joke.

We want speed and innovation and BO has provided neither, I hope they actually become what you say they will be just to provide some competition only because it would make spacex move faster.

>>12663667
Space fajitas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXiCF0MyFI

>>12663805
Bro most migrans from mexico come because automation has made their small farms not profitable even for feeding one family.

>>12663662
Bezos is more like the UK at this point.

>>12663838
My inner doomer tells me NASA will go with them to dish out contract money for oldspace. Everyone will get paid, they will try to pass it off as a "commercial" lander, and it won't fly until 2030

>>12663848
Loving the basic bitch royalty free background music

>>12663874
Why is it so angry?

>>12663888
scarecrow effect, to scare off the commies who get too close

>>12663848
Oh yeah, I remember this one. That was really fiddly to do without gravity. But I'm not sure whether the cold stiff tortilla made it easier or harder for him..

>>12663848
Looks like that shit is going to go everywhere in micro gravity.

>>12663874
How, in the name of GOD, is this a step up from what we had in the 1970's???????

>>12663888
>[]<

>>12663876
Cross-posting because i'm a fag and didn't notice thread had died.

>>12663632
>>12663559
Thats the thing, Musk will be remembered as a Carnegie/Rockefeller type industrial titan with larger influence. Hes shaping the course of humanity and that is why people love him. When you are that rich your legacy should be your goal not money

>>12663711
Your wrong though. Space is clearly profitable. SpaceX's valuation has increased significantly over the past few years.

>>12663912
>Literally cock and balls

>>12663924
Dunno if it’s exactly what you’re looking for, but you can do space station building in Orbiter, provided you mod the shit out of it.

>>12663888
They hired an automotive designer: https://youtu.be/KWVQK4p4liE

>>12663662
The lead musk has is massive

>>12663912
Designed to zap as much money as possible from the gooberment

>>12663941
I tried orbiter but it's a little inaccessible, anything a bit easier to get into?

>>12663827
global demographic inversion and covid primer is on the way. Oh wait, massive capital drought post boomers. Oh no. America gets it's industries back as the only true secure nation in the world with a solid demography

>>12663900
>>12663902
space chiken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R88hjxttntg

>>12663935
launching internet sats is profitable dum dum, that's it so far. Without goverement contracts that's the only thing that keeps afloat.

If you want to colonize {musk} you are fucked for capital to do so. He wants fleets worth of capital equipment and personell.

If you are Bezos you want to do it for heavy industry practical reasons. Which is also tons and tons of capital before any returns.

Space assembly of large vehicles in space is the intermediate step probably

>>12663869
Kek I'm waiting for that one anon to come on and defend the UK space program with his usual bullshit like "but Rolls Royce has engine making expertise" like he does every other time it's mentioned. He must have notifications set up or something

>>12663642
Fission torch boosters.

>>12663944
this is like watching a goddamn isaac arthur video, just a mouthbreather droning on and on ad naueam without getting to the point. this 40min "rant" could be compressed to about 2minutes.

>>12663820
Well, technically the majority of the jobs in China are the ones that were outsourced from the West to begin with so they're just losing what they were given.

>>12663985
>Without goverement contracts that's the only thing that keeps afloat.
Those internet sats are poised to net spacex 50 bil a year. Starlink is also getting military contracts. NASA will continue to give them contracts for artemis, commercial crew, commercial cargo and everything else launch vehicle wise.
>If you want to colonize {musk} you are fucked for capital to do so. He wants fleets worth of capital equipment and personell.
Hes got the capital to start it and once it starts other entities will get involved.
>If you are Bezos you want to do it for heavy industry practical reasons. Which is also tons and tons of capital before any returns.
What industrial reasons does he have right now? He doesn't even have the ability to get satellite contracts.
>Space assembly of large vehicles in space is the intermediate step probably
I disagree

>>12663985
It’s a good thing musk isn’t doing it for money.

We’re not gonna make it to space bros
Globohomo has won

Musk will plant his flag on Mars. Then establish a Martian Navy to keep out the undesirables.

>>12664042
are you kidding? biden is based
>apollo 17 moon rock in oval office
>compact nuclear reactors
>EV initiative
>dem support for full HLS funding
gonna get basedier every day

>>12664060
>I'm gonna cancel orange man's orange rocket because muh racism!

>>12664060
>full HLS funding
sauce? i doubt this

>>12664064
10 democrats sent him a letter asking to fully fund HLS and expedite down selection

>>12664060
HLS selection is money to bezo and ULA for a non existent Artemis mission

>>12663623
No way you would even be able to get a craft that heavy into orbit with chemical thrusters. It would be stupid to build it in a gravity well.

>>12664060
Yeah you have fun with “space exploration” when they put whites in pogroms

>>12664075
doesnt matter, it's fixed price. also good, spacex needs the competition

>>12664060
Just wait until he forces SpaceX to hire based on racial and gender quotas.

>>12664085
being situated in south texas I imagine SpaceX satisfies a great deal of diversity quotas

>>12664085
The military is already a minority jobs program.

>>12664084
It’s not competition for SpaceX lol
It’s a fucking expendable lander for the top of the SLS

>>12664005
This would actually be a justifiable use for them.

>>12663976
>America gets it's industries back as the only true secure nation in the world with a solid demography
American demographics are even worse than China, and there will be no reindustrialization talking in account just how inept the american leadership and elites have become. It is over for burgerland, and everyone knows that.

>>12663912
The new one has a Fire Stick enabled video steam with Amazon Prime Video so they can watch reruns of the Newhart Show.

>>12664085
Being situated in a state that has provisions for secession in its constitution as favorable as it gets for avoiding that

>SNX after landing and succeeding where it brothers fell

>>12664104
seethe more spacex stan

>>12664060
He already shorted funding on the lunar contracts. Also the rock in his office is a political tool nothing more. Hes killing funding just like Obama did

Based Origin bros rise up!

>>12664069
He hasn't given funding to it yet however

>>12664142
>based
>blue origin
what does he mean by this?

>>12664139
>bringing up obama
bigot

>>12664085
Or gives the designs to china

>>12664142
oh shit i thought i was alone

>>12664152
I wonder if Musk has a dead man's switch that publishes all of SpaceX's research and designs to the internet. Wouldn't put it past him.

>>12664128
We both know burgers won’t do shit regardless of how many guns or rights they are supposed to have. (((They))) tell them to jump and burgers ask how high.

>>12663632
He's going to get his chance to reform his image if he takes it. The leadership changes at Amazon are a prelude to splitting off AWS from the rest of the company. Those two pieces are far more valuable apart than together. After they split, Bezos will be the largest shareholder of both companies and his wealth will jump quickly. His reduced leadership role at Amazon will mean he can sell Amazon stock without it proving a panic on Wall Street.
He could probably liquidate his entire holdings in the new AWS spinoff as AWS was never really his idea and it's a business Amazon more or less stumbled into. He going to have lot of capital that he can invest into Blue Origin if he wants to go all in now. Musk and SpaceX beating his ass has got to be gnawing on him.

>>12663583
lets goooo!

>>12664165
ok antisemite

>>12664173
I don’t recall mentioning anything about semites?

>>12664169
AWS is more profitable than the rest of Amazon and the new CEO is from AWS. Though a technicality, it's more likely that the retail side of Amazon is spun-off into a new company than AWS being spun-off.

>>12664128
>Breaking news in 2030:
>After eternal empress AOC declares that SpaceX, the multi-trillion-dollar spaceflight company is required to hire more minorities Texas cedes from the USA, prompting a chain of southern states to follow suit thus sparking the start of civil war.
>Space force laser satellites are using targetted laser strikes to the homes of powerful Texans to quell the unrest, so far Alexis Texas and ZZ Top have been killed.
>In response to this mandate, overlord of the martian Olympus Mons colony and CEO of SpaceX Elon Musk tweeted an image of her holiness Ocasio-Cortez being sodomised by a StarShip shaped dildo, which subsequently received a record-breaking 1 billion retweets.
>Experts are currently analysing the image to determine whether it's photoshopped but are reportedly experiencing difficulties as to quote one such expert "It's hard to analyse the image with one hand on your cock"

>road closure tomorrow
bopper test?

>>12664180
Oh (((you)))!

>>12664037
>>12664018
The military, and NASA have massive over sight and ability to limit how much SpaceX can actively get away with. They could also send SpaceX to regulatory hell if they felt like it.

Now for now the money is there. And it might be there with the satellites. American military will likely be primary instutitional backers. and the american military is also the greatest victim of American politics and spaceX can easily be gutted, as needed if it ever steps out of line.

The capital is there for now. The entities will be there if the capital is there. But if the capital disappears there are no other entitles to take hold.

it's far more fucked tenuous than people have to come to believe

>>12664116
China has 30million more men. And is aging faster than america right now. Millenials are also a massive generation.

Get outa here with that misinformation

>>12664215
>They could also send SpaceX to regulatory hell if they felt like it.
Musk should have thought about that before giving the finger the California and the Commie Cough.

>>12663912
This is what happens when you outsource too much. Private businesses are designed to maximise profit, obviously. What's best to generate profit often isn't what's best for innovation. A lot more money can be made by reusing as much of a 50-year-old design as possible and only changing just enough that you can convince the scientific illiterates in public office to pay inordinate amounts for it than if you were to actually innovate and improve from the ground up

>>12664215
NASA has no oversight whatsoever on anything that it doesn't have a direct hand in and the military has a vested interest in SpaceX's success (particularly Starlink and Starship), you sound like a scattershot conspiracy fag

>>12664128
Lol if Texas tries to seceed it will get bombed back to the stone age.

>>12664204
>so far Alexis Texas and ZZ Top have been killed.
They didn't get Willie because the cloud of pink smoke diffused the laser beam too much. The famous quote was "Thanks for the light, man!"

>>12664235
Probably. But doing so would also probably lead to civil war across the rest of the nation.

>>12663583
Venture star is a meme, literally, none of it works, even it's meme engine has been abandoned by everyone outside of a lab, and even by most within a lab. It's built out of so many parts that individually have no solid proof of concept that it makes you have to wonder if everyone involved in the project has some collective delusion or if it's some shell project to funnel defence funds somewhere else

>>12664253
I think they designed it as wrong as possible to get NASA to stop trying to make hydrogen SSTOs after the Shuttle.
>and so of course they make the SLS next

>>12663924
Well i decided to calculate how much thrust power this monster has, and unless my math is wrong it generates almost as much power as the Earth receives from the Sun (about 80% of it). I might have gone a bit too far here.

>>12664235
Bombed by who?

>>12664235
Stone age is too far back. More like the 1800's. Either way, the liberal infested cities would be gone and the age of the cowboy will come again.

>>12664215
I don’t see how nasa has any say on what spacex does and if anything the military would enjoy the idea of starship for plenty of reasons.

All we can hope for is that FAAgs leave spacex alone which is unlikely, but that shouldn’t matter once the oil rig is converted for launching.

>>12664259
A couple of who’s on a computer monitor somewhere in a government office building operating a drone

Quick rundown on yesterday's raptor failure?
NSF spotted parts flying off at second engine ignition.

Vulcan is Cape-bound

>>12664291
What is she doing? Static fire?

>>12664257
No, i was wrong. I was missing a zero here, only produces about 8% of that energy.
"Only" being the imperative word here.

>>12664294
WDR maybe, but thanks to Bezos, it's several months away from getting functional engines.

>>12664284
The military is getting rid of everyone with the ability to do anything useful. The US Navy now has problems with their ships colliding with each other. The investigation into the last collision found the cause was two female bridge officers refusing to talk to each other. Tens of millions of dollars of damage and seven dead sailors. This is what the military is turning into. The Texas Military Forces (TXMF) will eventually be able to repel any attack from General Mazaa Abebe and his gender queer infantry.

Alright, with all this regulatory bullshit and political faggotry, when are we gonna get together and build our own rockets?
We have the theoretical knowledge and the collective autism, when are we gonna get ourselves off this rock?

>>12664234
military is on a short leash. They got fucked in Iraq, Afganistan, Vietnam, Korea was the last time the military was able to operate without massive red tape.

the military bends over backwards if asked too, not the other way around. Military vested interests don't matter if the politicians call for them not to matter.

And if you don't think SpaceX can be sent to regulatory hell, I implore you to bet. On the US goverement ability to fuck up it' foes, or SpaceX a US national corp to evade goverement that wants to fuck it's ability to make it look bad.

>>12664310
I thought ULA said they got them working

>>12664334
The problem that the BE-4 had before is fixed, but those are just pathfinder engines on the stage now. They're gonna be swapped out before it flies.

>>12664333
great argument, I liked the part where you not only didn't defend your previous points but actively reversed position and just reduced yourself to vagueposting. Really proves you have your head on right.

>>12663698
Earth can burn. I know that there's enough time and desire to get offworld colonies started, and that's all we need. I'm going to move to the Moon and quietly convert as much of the crust as I can into computational matter to turn myself into an AI hybrid god before someone notices.

>>12664330
We are not permitted to flee the prison, anon.

>>12663559
Maybe BO will finally be productive. It's not like they can compete with Spacex or anything, but I'll have fun watching them try.

>>12664351
yeah it might not be NASA this is irrelevant.
yeah the capital might not be there companies fail and burn up all the time
yeah spaceX could be fuckeh
yeah military is not the strongest agent in the US gov

what part did I miss? You are free to make your bets. But 1 manned disaster and they are likely fucked with anything short of war time

>>12663705
theyre alot more powerful now than back then

>>12664358
Nothing good has ever come by obeying orders, Anon
We can do it

America is so fucked I hope I die somehow within the next five years

>>12664406
Why wait?

Imagine recovering the S-1C SMART style.
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3741/1

>>12664078
well it doesn't get into orbit on boosters, the boosters just get it up in the air so the nukes can take over without completely destroying everything

>>12664333
>They got fucked in Iraq, Afganistan, Vietnam, Korea was the last time the military was able to operate without massive red tape.
Are you retarded?

>>12664215
>The entities will be there if the capital is there. But if the capital disappears there are no other entitles to take hold.
The capital is there and it will stay there

>>12664357
That’s like when they looked behind a panel on Mir and found fungus growing, only it’s an existential threat to mankind

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>>12664548
BACK IN FORMATION STARLINK17!

>>12664548
ALL MOCKERY OF BOEING AND THEIR ONE ROCKET SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPIATE MINIMUM

>>12664548
God bless President Biden

Which one of you works at BB?

>>12664545
Nah, the demigod wars won't extinct mankind. 90% casualties, tops.

double-header launch thread, for your consideration
>>12664586
>>12664586
>>12664586

>>12664393
>RTG generator
My god, it periodically generates new RTGs?

>>12664611
It's like the allspark, you hit it and it turns nearby machinery into RTGs

>>12664563
One use rocket*

>>12664625
Weaponize it and you're hired

>>12664548
Reminder that Voyager 2 launched before Voyager 1

>>12664671

Alright, how would one build this?

>>12664325
>dat pic
i thought it was a meme post but its real what the fuck america is being gutted

>>12664715
Biden is finishing what Obama started.

>>12664715

Uh....guys??

>>12664715
This is the end of civilization. It’s over. Evil wins
Whites will be wiped out, and there’s never gonna be outer space colonies

>>12664512
He's not wrong though. I fought in that clusterfuck in Iraq. You can win firefights all fucking day but it doesn't matter for shit when they do stupid shit like forget to feed you for 3+ months while also paying shitloads of money to the same people laying IEDs on your routes. FFS I remember back in 07 on Camp Taji they let fucking LOCALS set up an internet service on the base, who then proceeded to use said service to steal a bunch of personal information from anyone retarded enough to sign up for the service in their CHU, and steal pictures of their wives and shit. They even let locals set up a 'bazaar' on several bases to sell bootleg DVD's and shit, when the money is very obviously going to go to support insurgents. All just for political dick waving. The military is literally just a prop and jobs program, they don't give two shits about winning conflicts, wars only exists to feed money into contractors, like the faggots that made over 150k just to print ID cards.

>>12664728
....

>>12664728
>legs
pog

>>12664732
Yeah but combat can be fun, and you can use the experience eventually to kill the elites in Minecraft

>>12664732
Redpilled and thank you for your service anon.

>>12664734
Don't ever fucking say that here again

>>12664734
baSED

>>12664734
Go back

>>12664741
why? because it's considered a symbol of white supremacy according to the left?

>>12664750
is it really?

>>12664750

>>12664750
I don't know what gay twitch meme shit this is supposed to be but I'm going to post an image of pogs and you can't do a fucking thing to stop me.

>>12664754
Yep. The guy in the original “pog” image said something sort of in support of the MAGA movement on Twitter so it’s now racist and Twitter removed the emote

>>12664734
if you had said poggers there wouldnt be an issue...

>>12664757
Twitch, I think you meant to say. Not twitter

>>12664715
>i thought it was a meme post but its real what the fuck america is being gutted
/pol/ has always been right.

banned because dude wondered if there would be more violence in the wake of the capitol hill protest

>>12664762
Yeah whatever Globohomo fag corporate website

>>12664765
what were his opinions on space flight

>>12664732
Yeah the point is that we didn't get fucked in iraq, we deposed the sitting administration and put in our own puppet administration while also keeping troops there.

>>12663929
To think they will need to launch 6 of those just to refill one starship... Lol dude just lol

Agh I gotta go to sleep but someone can add stuff to this image if they want. Launch me to tel aviv, I am ready. Or something

>>12664770
You are retarded

>>12664770
Good thing they don't fall apart on the way to space every time.

>>12664769
yeah and then for bureaucratic reasons pulled out. Americans lose wars at home.

>>12664778
>shits out a turbopump

I hope Elon has a sustainable colony by the 40’s, because that’s when America becomes white minority

>>12664780
They never fully pulled out and they're gonna go back in now for more 'peacekeeping'.

>>12663984
BASED

>>12664789
America still has a few assets in afganistan, but again no one is playing for keeps.

>>12664784
The West overall is in major decline due to social parasitism. It might not collapse, but it isn't going to get better. If progressive ideas go with us to Mars the colony will unironically be doomed to collapse. Traditional values will be the only way to survive

>>12664572
Imagine the temptation to 'accidentally' fuck with the airlocks for those modules

>>12664765
It's because he was glorifying that woman who was shot, apparently. Interesting how twitter didn't ban him.

>>12664796
musk rat has to figure out how to have educated women have kids. Literal no one has done this. It's doomed from the start.

>>12664797
kek
>>12664799
Yeah lot's of projections say that overall population is going to stagnate by 2100, maybe earlier. The USA is probably going to have to add a lot of incentives to have children, especially for women who want to go to school and get jobs. Idk how it's going to be done. But on Mars I hope there is a strong emphasis on no trannies and no gays. I don't want to shun them or anything but they will add nothing to the colony and nuclear family values will be needed.
Also I have a bad feeling there will be a large movement of people trying to push for monogamy, which will absolutely decimated the colony should it happen

>>12664799
>musk rat has to figure out how to have educated women have kids.
Ban hormonal birth control. Bam, you're done, right there. Nobody has the balls to do that because it's a tacit admission that women are not and should not try to be equal to men.
>but muh STEM
If anything the recent past's parade of ham galaxies has proven to us that pregnancy is not going to stop people from getting lab work done.

>>12664799
There was an article in Korea the other day.

>If you lead a successful life and have the financial means, would you choose to get 'married' or 'not married'?
>Women: 67.4% chose to 'not' get married
>Men: 76.8% chose to get married
Women in general want to be marriage and child free.

>>12664806
globally it's way earlier than 2100, US has the most time demographically and the most resources. Think of it as economic and soceital chemo. There is a reason... Elon knows he can likely solve enviromental issues and they can be sovled with enough resources.

Modern progressive values and global economic contraction. Is a fight he knows he can't win. It's almost a religious war.

>>12664814
>>12664812

Yeah. Remember when soviet generals would have political officers associated. We basically are approaching the same system. If you 'infringe' in this way. Militarily you get crushed.

They are in a diversity investigation right now. Even. Musk is on far more eggshells than people realize.

>>12664806
>But on Mars I hope there is a strong emphasis on no trannies and no gays

>>12664815
>It's almost a religious war
You aren't wrong. I would much rather live on Mars with Mormons and Catholics than live in a leftist "utopia" here on Earth

>>12664819
They still do that in China.

>>12664796
Mars will be hard, the parasites won't come within our lifetimes at least.

100 years from now when Mars is easy, then they will come.

>>12664799
Education isn't the problem. In fact educated housewives are rather advantageous since they can teach their children. The problem is that they're allowed to work.

>>12664769
>Put in our own puppet administration
You really don't know shit about that war then. Their 'government' was virtually non-existent, had no sort of enforcement or projection, and had no sort of influence on the country, hence why WE had to do everything. The entire country was an unmitigated clusterfuck, and the war itself was a beaurocratic nightmare with absolutely no goals or strategies, and massive waste and fraud of US tax dollars. If you don't think the people behind this kind of shit wouldn't do something far more mundane like cucking space industries just to keep funneling tax money to the same people they were funneling tax money to after starting pointless wars, you might be actually retarded.

>>12664831
Then it’s on to Pluto, so on and so forth

>>12664840
>First contact with aliens
>Biden welcomes them and asks about their culture
>"Ummm, we are actually refugees. Our home world at proxima centauri got overrun by trannies and atheists. Your planet seems doomed already so we will be on our way. Goodbye"

>>12664815
>Modern progressive values and global economic contraction. Is a fight he knows he can't win.
Asteroid bombardment

>>12664814
Thank god for natural selection.

>>12664806
The US births are already in decline, but immigration has made it look as if it is still rising. The birth rates over the past century show this even with hordes being brought in.

The only groups that actually have an above replacement birth rate which isn’t in decline anyway is the fucking Amish. I actually looked through the data and them and a couple other anabaptist groups like old order Mennonites or hutterites are literally the only sizeable groups in the US that aren’t in decline in that regard. Even beaner birth rates are dropping quite dramatically for some reason.

In fact the entire world (except sub Saharan Africa and some nations in the Middle East) is exactly the same.

I’m not sure who musk is even gonna pick for this colony, because I doubt the Amish would be keen on going and everybody else is committing demographic suicide.

>>12664861
yep. watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVimVzgtD6w

Boca Chica SpaceX mod for Flight Sim 2020, neat

>https://futurism.com/the-byte/head-nasa-not-sure-starship
We have a new "SLS is REAL" quote from the new NASA admin.

>“What I can say now is that the Space Launch System is farther along than the Starship or any other commercial [project] with respect to a super heavy-lift capability that’s purpose-built for human spaceflight missions,” he said.

>>12663623
>it'll be a century before people are okay with the concept of nuclear for something like this to be a possibility

Shit sucks.

ASCII yeah. I thought it was dumb until I hit Q and E on my keyboard and then my mind got fucked
http://asciicker.com/x13/

>coworkers start talking about space

>>12664876
>Didn't NASA close down when the shuttles stopped launching 10 years ago?

>>12664875
Sorry that wasn't meant for here, I have many-a-tabs open

>>12664872
Note that it's the "acting" (temporary) NASA admin. We will see what the Senate-approved admin will do.

>>12664872
Jim shilled for SLS quite a lot. It's part of the job

>>12664872
New pasta acquired

>>12664865
Yeah I guess the Amish were smarter than anyone realised. Everybody else is effectively sacrificing their population in exchange for more comfortable life’s while they played the long game and embraced the struggle, now they are rapidly expanding across the US in all directions into the rural land which is now being abandoned as either the youth leave for the city or the old farmers have no heirs to give it too so the Amish buy it up and move in with plenty of space.

I checked their stats specifically and even the Amish themselves are having like a mini light version of what is currently happening as more liberal sects that embrace technology tend to have lower birth rates than more strict sects so the hardcore sects are expanding faster and will soon become the dominant group amongst them. For example the swartzentruber Amish have 9 children per woman on average while a more liberal sect like the Lancaster Amish have 6 on average.

I wonder if the current worldwide decline will stop because it seems to be accelerating and the world may actually become quite empty in the coming centuries.

>>12664872
>with respect to a super heavy-lift capability that’s purpose-built for human spaceflight missions
That's carefully worded kek
>I know what the timelines are for the [Space Launch System], but it’s hard to determine what the timeline is and capabilities are for the Starship
literally a cope post to make the SLS look less like a failure.
>Orion is ready to fly for the first crewed mission and it’s actually been handed over to the team at Kennedy Space Center that’s going to integrate it onto the SLS launch vehicle
this is just laughable

The SpaceX Mars Suit should have a powered exoskeleton, and robotic hands.

6 months at zero G and then the .3G of Mars is going to be rough on Astronauts. Plus the fact that the early missions won't have heavy equipment. So a suit with a powered exoskeleton can both provide resistance unloaded, and then boost strength when needed.

The hands and forearms will be hardsuit and robotic. The oversized forearm shells will contain the wearers forearms and hands. The hands will operate controls for the robotic hands. Which should help with the finger nail problem of current inflation suits. While also giving better fine control and grip strength.

>>12664881
>We will see what the Senate-approved admin will do
If its anything like the Obama era we will focus on climate and cut most of the space funding

>>12664906
>WE ARE GOING!
Orion's motto for the past, what, 7+ years?

>>12664910
Nasa is for building rockets and airplanes.

Noaa is for climate science.

>>12664909
That is retarded, the should focus on making it as small as possible.

>>12664903
Most americans can't imagine what it looks like to have places hollow out. because most people live in cities with constant growth and money. If you go mid west. There are certain places with no life left in them.

Progressives don't want the global population decline to stop. They think they are saving the world. Kids to them aren't their future. They are instead no different from pets.

If you look at planned parenthood. That shit started as a eugenics program. Ironically to reduce the population of minorities. While the 'left progressives' distance themselves from eugenics. The original purpose is very much fufilled.

green run when?

>>12664909
Why not do gravity therapy once on mars using some kind of spin hab/device.

>>12664909
>Implying it shouldn't be pic related

>>12664919
Appalachia in particular is an absolute shithole when it comes to growing and healthy populations. The coal industry has died for good now it seems and you could probably get land there for dirt cheap, if you don't mind interacting with people who have the ugliest accents on Earth

>>12664926
If there was a way to do quick transport to hospitals, and with starlink. I think it'd be compelling alternative. Cities could also be heavily private, meaning proper chain of leadership and relative autonomy.

>>12664919
Progressive welfare states of the west need constant influx of working age people. So the growth meme can continue. By having the young increase consumption and shoulder debt.

Otherwise you become japan and korea. Which are slowly heading to collapse.

China is avoiding this by Colonialism 2.0. Where they exploit developing nations' populations and resources. While not importing them.

>>12664909
Why would it need to be a powered exosuit? Mars only has 40% the gravity of earth so everything will be much lighter and any fit human could handle the equipment easily.

Also people have spent much longer in zero g on the ISS and returned to the earth without much trouble as far as living went so landing on a place with less than half the gravity of the earth should be much more convenient.

>>12664765
Hadn't heard about that, but good. Those e-celeb streamer faces are cringe.

Once again /pol/shitters have infected the thread. Go back to your containment board and stay there.

how many dragons can super heavy launch?

>>12664915
>Nasa is for building rockets and airplanes.
Yeah and those rockets and airplanes were put towards the goals of researching climate science. why don't you go do some research on Obama era space funding.

>>12664840
Main belt (Many mini societies there), then Saturn & Jupiter's Moons.

>>12664919
>ching chong bing bing bing
k

>>12664919
It’s apparently happening a lot in China, Japan and many European nations as the countryside is left quite barren.

I can’t say I am entirely opposed to a decline in population as I don’t mind the space, solitude and nature, but obviously a limit on how low and concentrated the population can get should exist.

As for abortion who cares, if it was gotten rid of then you would be knee deep in a tidal wave of nogs so I can’t really oppose it.

>>12664936
in place of forklifts and cranes and enhanced mobility

>>12664943
All of them.

NSF is live
https://youtu.be/SI1WexscFiY

>>12664926
Funny you should mention them as that is one of the new states the Amish are expanding into due to the cheap as fuck land and low population. I don’t know if they would help the accent, I think the Amish speak German mostly amongst themselves so would that be an improvement?

>>12664952
I am not opposed to abortion in theory. In practice abortion gurantees immigration.

If you are an enviromentalist would you square me the circle of how getting rid of kids helps protect the enviroment, while importing immigrants into high per capita carbon use countries is somehow not just doubling around to basically the same outcome.

>>12664874
honestly project orion is super impractical even if you ignore the nuclear issue, it's a lot of fun to think about though

>>12664961
>>If you are an enviromentalist would you square me the circle of how getting rid of kids helps protect the enviroment, while importing immigrants into high per capita carbon use countries is somehow not just doubling around to basically the same outcome.
Cool it with the antisemitism there, pal.

>>12664909
Don’t forget about the rocket powered fists and Kung-fu action grip to help fight Martians.

>>12664959
No lmao. Literally the only other language out there that is possibly just as bad hahah. Also Amish are super deformed due to inbreeding. Apparently dwarfism is a big problem within their communities

>>12664934
China is absolutely not avoiding that. Take a look at their birth rate and you will notice that in 2019 they had their lowest amount of births since records began and it’s still dropping despite getting rid of the one child policy.

They are actually going to go into actual population decline before the end of this decade and possibly sooner so paying the pensions for the hundreds of millions of elderly people is going to be nightmarish with a rapidly aging population.

>>12664961
The globohomo circus clown would say that turd worlders have a lower carbon foot print per capita. Even after coming to the west. As they're poorer and urban. Unlike all the wealthy nazi natives.

>>12664972
They're avoiding it by having Africans in Africa be the consumer and debt slaves.

I think Kepler will start launches on a Falcon 9

>>12664973
Even if I accept that. Immigrants end up having kids at higher rates. And you need more immigrants in the long term to support your aging immigrants currently.

This just recusrively works until you important everyone into america having replaced the initial population 100 times over.

>>12664961
As I’m sure you could guess from my previous post I am indeed opposed to immigration especially as a replacement for a declining native birth rate. But if you didn’t have abortion then you would probably be in a worse spot giving the amount of absolute trash that would be breeding.

Put it this way, if somebody actually aborts their kids then they wouldn’t have raised them very well anyway so you more so dodged a billet.

>>12664967
I checked the birth defect thing and it seems like a meme, they have the same rates as the general population, but because of their population bottleneck when they first arrived in the US they did inbreed which means they have higher rates of some rare deformities, but the rate of birth defects is no more than than the normal population despite that.

Besides it’s not like they have a shortage of partners anymore.

Wait so can someone give me the TLDR on what is happening tonight with F9? I see a lot of things about record turnaround time. Did they just fly one of the boosters? Are they launching 2 tonight, possibly?
>>12664991
Oh I guess I bought into the meme then. And I've met Amish IRL and some of the women are beautiful. The men... no

>>12664983
Now this is a fair contention & you could also argue that we are importing creme de la creme globally. But that said. While they maybe raised to degenerate ends, their genetic value to the community as a whole could be valuable. And eventually their virtue could be amended.

The issue I have is also that the ruling class are productive, but horrible effeminate. If they were really even remotely as courageous as those of old. It would be something comparable to a war effort than the luxurious continuation of the present.

But anyways : there is no solution that reconciles the birth rates in general. No solution that is compatible with modern-progressivism. The west has nothing west to guide it.

>>12664976
Well they are going to be disappointed as burgers found out the hard way in the US that nogs only work if you whip them and I doubt the Chinese will force them.

So the best they can hope for is massively reduced production and efficiency compared to the average chink worker.

>>12664980
>IoT cancer
I thought we're against putting trash into the orbit.
Also is it okay if we talk about spaceflight-related activities in this politics general?

>>12664997
Launching 2 within 4 hours i believe

>>12664982
Sweden population 2020 is 10 million, and a fifth or a quarter is not Nordic. The Swedish centrist party wants Sweden to have 40 million plus in a few decades. Thinking it will be fine. So long as the immigrants work, pay taxes, and speak Swedish.

Then you have this.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2020/08/one-billion-americans-by-matthew-yglesias-book-excerpt.html


Humans as a commodity.

>>12664997
Yeah the shitty beards and haircuts really ruin their look, although they only grow beards if they are married.

>>12665005
Oh so a double scrub tonight?

>>12664997
starlink 18 launching tonight and will be the fastest turnaround for a booster, starlink 17 delayed to 5:16am tomorrow

>>12665006
Best part is they don’t work, but I doubt that is why they are being brought in.

If they wanted workers they would get them from Poland, Czech/Slovakia or the Baltic nations. No the variety of people they are bringing in aren’t going to work and they know it, it’s just another invasion force.

>>12665006
Canada also wants to go to 100million. These are such power plays. This level of constant brain drain and capital drain is comic.

SNX is well; doomers btfo

>>12665012
Ahhhh okay so two possible records? Why the fuck can't they launch them within like 30 minutes? Also for anyone that is interested and doesn't know I looked it up and the booster was last flown 27 days ago

>>12665016
Based security inside man

>>12665007
Beards are awesome

>>12665016
It’s good to know how fast things could actually be moving if not for the FAA, 1 or 2 weeks is incredibly optimistic.

Also did they say what caused the crash and was it what happened last time?

>>12665016
PLEASE BE TRUE

>>12665016
>1 to 2 weeks
hahaha no. try Q2 2021

>>12665016
next 1-2 months

>>12665021
Only if you have a moustache otherwise it looks very odd.

SpaceX stream is live BTW

>>12665014
The welfare state and high taxes will mask it fir a while. As it forces money to be spent on basic consumption.

>>12665016
except them to be regulated heavily. It looks really bad and makes the current Admin look retarded if Musks project gets ahead. I imagine there are a lot of people who are keeping the program alive who would want starship to arrive far later.

launch habbenign

>>12665017
the two launches are likely targeting different orbital planes, so they have to wait until earth rotates into the right position so the rocket launches directly into the right plane without spending extra fuel. Additionally, the range takes a little bit of time to reset for another launch. The range had previously said the original plan of ~4 hours between launches was fine, but <30min may not be enough time. There's also recovery conditions etc.

>muh black history month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8

>>12665030
Even without starship the rest of the industry looks like baffons with only the falcon 9

>>12665033
Both valid points I didn't consider

why does it seem like every spacex livestream has a different script? they never word things the same. it's clearly written different each stream too since they read from a prompter

>>12665039
well that would be pretty boring

>>12665034
wtf is this

>>12665036
yeah look up till someone references the Admin's quote. F9 is great. But they are propping up SLS hard.

>>12665039
Yeah I've noticed that. I guess each presenter is required to write their own prompt, and Elon probably gives them guidelines (or they enforce guidelines themselves). They want to appeal to normies.
This was especially prevalent with Insprucker and SN9. I think he was reading off of notes at the end and I wish he was way more relaxed. There must have been rules like "if it blows up talk about how data was still valuable". I sort of wish he was just like "Damn that was a big explosion! Well, see you soon for the flight of SN10"

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the space colony, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite SPACE OPERAS. you should totally come on down to my sleeping pod, it’s got EXPOSED STEEL PLATE walls and everything, we can crack open a nice water pouch or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on the holoscreen! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the vrarcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also a VR ARCADE like when we were twenty, so we can play awesome VIRTUAL REALITY GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the infirmary bay, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our TAMAGOTCHIS. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this water ration and pop open another one!!!

>>12665046
a parody of Ken Burns' documentaries

>>12665022
the only official word from spacex was that "one of the engines did not relight," not sure if it's related to sn8's header tank issue.
On another note, will the FAA investigation on the sn9 boom actually impact sn10's timeline significantly or is it just doomposter memes? I'm under the impression that the investigation will just happen in parallel since the sn8 issues were resolved and spacex got their launch license.

>>12665039
>He doesn't use dot points instead of a literal word-for-word script
ngmi in public speaking

I'd like to come into contact with tice's ambient air

Hey junior, know that I think u are capable of great thimgs. Yur going places old frend :)

Did that guy just say anomalous trajectory?

>>12665074
>a nominal trajectory

You know what I just realized? I used to consider grid fins a purely soviet/russian thing. I thought it was weird when F9 first started using them. And now I consider them a SpaceX thing

Are the separate telemetries a new thing or?

>>12665074
An animal on trajectory

>>12665089
On NRO payloads they show the first stage telemetry only so yeah it's pretty rare to see it.

>>12665089
new indeed
very good

>>12665088
USA used em for guided bombs since like the 80s

Oldspace BTFO'd yet again

Successful landing!

>>12665108
I dunno anon, I'm still pretty down in the dumps about SNIX :(

OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD SHE'S FUCKING GOING APESHIT

>>12664733
yeah, Starship has wheels

>>12665136
It should have massive fuckhuge tyres. Why not?

>>12665136
Can the Raptors be throttled enough to allow using gimballing to drive the thing around?

>>12665057
I imagine it will delay them by a week or two, but they’re isn’t much for them to investigate really. They knew it was a prototype, they knew it would probably explode like the last one and it appears to be caused by a similar issue so it’s really just a copy paste of the previous paperwork.

>>12665144
It requires a single engine on low thrust to be able to hover, which is a TWR of 1. Here's a plane with a similar TWR taking off.

>>12664728
>SN15 still uses the Home Hardware girder legs

>>12665186
Fuck the legs, focus on fixing the engines

>>12663559
Do they deliver cheese to the ISS? can you have cheese in space?

>>12665186
>yep, that's m-
https://youtu.be/hR6DATfX7kI

>>12665186
>SLS still using zipties from ties&more

>>12665205
Honestly the launch threads make the Starship development process a million times better. Makes me laugh so fucking hard

>>12665186
How is it even supposed to land with those things assuming the engine doesn’t fuck up again?

It’s going to tip over and cause another mess.

>>12665200
They brought 100kg of cheese on DM-2 but Bob ate it all.

>>12665226
BASED bob

>>12664876
>Coworkers are scientists and have worthwhile opinions

>>12665215
FH was a glorious thread, with Starman streams after.
>>/sci/thread/S9488305#p9488305

and DM-2 of course.

>>12665222
They get crushed.
Same thing happened with SN5 and SN6.

>>12665016
berger said third week of feb

Elon breaks his silence to retweet the launch stream.

>>12665260
>This was a tough one
Why? Weather?

>>12665233
SN-8 was also fun, since no one knew about the Raptors shutting down.
https://yuki.la/sci/12440817

they gotta know what killed that SN9 engine... that's all it would of taken.

>>12665264
Ah ok, he answered. High seas and wind.

it took five tries to land F9. Getting Starship on the 3rd would be great.
Makes you wonder how many times Bezorp will fucking sink his mommy-named rocket landing boat with new Glenns slamming into it

>>12665264
>>12665270
Certainly didn't look like a tough one. They make it look easy indeed.

>>12665233
I totally forgot about that day. It feels like ages ago. That thread was based

>>12665267
for me, it was the Starliner fuck-up. No one here really gave a shit till it didn't get to orbit. Then the next two days entirely consisted of laughing at boing

>>12665144
no, trying to use the Raptors to impart sideways force would just cause it to do a flip like SN9 did (the second flip)
>>12665142
don't need them for rolling around on smoothed concrete inside a tent

Trying to look at Nasa Twitter posts for information is total cancer. It is just a bunch of Black history month posts talking up people in unimportant positions.

>>12665276
That was such a good day

>>12665276
This view made me laugh my ass off

>>12665282
This is never going to end until someone gains power on an explicit platform of I HATE NIGGERS. They view tolerance as weakness.

>>12665290
Would be so based

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIBPHJ_FrQ
Check this out bros, The side by side comparison makes the SN9 look so much smoother in flight.

>Estronaut replied to Musk’s droneship tweet within ONE MINUTE
Jesus get a life dude

>>12665260
>Offtwitter
>24 hours : "Man boys this was a tough one."

Would there be any advantages to sending some modern missions to uranus or neptune? I just wanna see 4k photos of those planets. We could do a cassini-style mission to explore the moons

>>12665312
Not with the current planet probe budget and rockets. Wait till starships are cheap and plentiful. Musk has talked about stripping down a starship in orbit and just sending it engines blazing to the outer planets with probes up the wazoo onboard

>>12665300
interesting that rotation on the transition to horizontal looks much scarier now in comparison to sn8.
>>12665276
archive link?

>>12665312
>neptune
could also be used as a test for plasma magnets

>>12665312
If the Plasma Magnet Sail works as advertised we could drop an orbiter around Neptune (specifically Neptune, the magnetic field balance of sun vs. planet doesn't work out as well for any other gas giant) in under a year of flight time. That would be worth it for both the propulsion tech and the planet science.

>>12665327
Ninja'd.

I want us to drop a nuclear reactor on Europa, and watch it on delay as it melted through the ice to the spooks that live under that ice.

musk needs to delete his twitter

musk no the fec will get you stahp

>>12665323
To me it looked much better

the biz DOGE thread has probably bigger fans of musk than sfg rn

>>12665408
Biz can be something else https://youtu.be/BkX2NAKFM5Q

>>12665408
sfg always has a bunch of butthurt oldspace fanboys. Speaking of /biz/ did all you fags just see that musk is now the richest man in the world.

>>12665423
Yeah, and then Jeff Benis ragequit Amazon less than a month later.

>>12665423
naked_grimes.jpg

>>12665425
Which is good.

>>12665426
DONE

>>12665408
Elon btfoing normies.

>>12663662
Nah cause the USSR lost its lead due to infighting, lack of political commitment to go to the moon, and lower budgets. As someone put it, the US companies behaved more like socialists and the design bureaus behaved more like capitalists.

>>12665480
Is he free? Because if he's not he's polluting the Earth.

>>12665489
He certainly cries about SpaceX for free like so many seem to do with every post they make

>>12665524
That's a start but I demand that at the minimum something he have spent a lot of time and effort on to be free for the taking by anyone lest he is a hypocrite.

>>12665480
>CEO of Antifa
>@CrazyWeeMonkey
checks out

>>12665557
https://youtu.be/Xlr2ZMTc52E

>>12665557

>>12665480
>CEO of antifa
>it's free?

>>12665480
antifascists being this stupid is a stronger argument in favor of fascism than fascists are capable of making in their own

>Elon is trending by mere shitpostnig

I can't even tell if this is sarcasm or if he's genuinely going to try this on SN10

>>12665583
It was my thought too. Why are they hoping that one or two engines work while completely ignoring the third?

>>12665583
I don't get any of it. Is he drunk? Will it help me understand if I drink as well?

>>12665583
I thought about this last night, and the only reason I could come up with for not trying this was because the software team thought they only needed two engines, so they'll use two engines

>>12665583
Could have planned landing on one and lighting two as well. I believe they need to stick a landing more at this point than to make it super fuel efficient.

>>12664835
Exactly what part of that makes it not a puppet admin? We made some mistakes but to say we got btfo because we didn't nation build well is retarded. We deposed Saddam, destroyed the Iraqi guard, swept away their fighting material and established a permanent presence in the country. The politics of the post saddam part of the war were fucked but thats beside the point.

>>12665610
Have you ever heard of the pull out method?

>>12665637
This is a space flight general, I'm not going to spend an hour explaining to a retard why having a puppet government that can't actually do anything is completely counter intuitive to the idea of having a puppet government in the first place as opposed to just annexing whatever country you've taken over. No one gives or ever gave a shit about Saddam or the 'Iraqi guard' who were already completely toothless after Desert Storm.

>The politics of the post saddam part of the war were fucked but thats beside the point.
It's not beside the point, this is why you're a retard. The entire premise of us remaining there nation building in the first place is based entirely around this issue, and why the war dragged on into quagmire status. You can't just cherry pick the very beginning of the war and call the rest of it a 'victory' when we blew more resources than Iraq makes in decades just to flounder about and leave the place MORE susceptible to the issues we went there to stop.

L...LEWD

>>12665643
Still don't get it. I probably should take a drink. Unfortunately I only have isopropyl alcohol on me until I get home.

>>12665660
So was the green raptor engine on SN9?

>>12665307
that's kinda his job though

>>12665660
>nopan
what a SLUT

>>12665651
>can't just cherry pick the very beginning of the war and call the rest of it a 'victory' when we blew more resources than Iraq makes in decades just to flounder about and leave the place MORE susceptible to the issues we went there to stop.
I can actually because the only clear goal we had was to get rid of Sadam and his Baathisyt government. We fid that quickly and efficiently. Everything else was spook level bullshit.

>>12665307
Eh, simping for Elon is basically part of his job at this point.

>>12665660
plumbing spaghetti from hell

>>12665583
>We were too dumb

What did he mean by it really?

>>12665583

>>12663988
Not that anon, but I'm very excited for our space sector. I think there is a lot to be excited for

>>12665583
Maybe he means it was more complicated to implement than it seemed.

>>12665605
its hard to get enough pressure to light even two, a third one would just make the problem worse

>>12665618
>stick a landing more
what do you mean by this, they havent landed even once

>>12665307
>Jesus get a life dude
his life is making 4000-8000 dollars a day for reading back wikipedia to lonely virgins for a couple of minutes per month


i think he has a bit more of a life than you do

>>12665480
>>12665574
neither this stupid kids are commies, nor proud boys are "facists" both are just baseline americans who have been completely stripped of any decision initiative or importance, their political ideology is as important as their flavour of ice cream, they are literal npcs. Anyone not rich in america does not matter and basically isnt a human being but a machine made to consume.
Free people only exist outside the us and thats where political discussions can really mean something

Is there still a second Starlink launch today?

>>12665824
>they havent landed even once
Yes, that's why they need to make it work at all first before trying to optimize it.

We got any idea what today's TFRs are for? It can't be a static fire (right?), so SNX cryo-test? 7.2 again?

>>12665848
>SNX cryo-test
this

>>12665605
I'm guessing they would prefer to just use two since lighting three then shutting one down would mean added complexity. All three engines won't work because it's too much thrust for landing.
Two engines gives off-center thrust which might help with the flip, though I'm not sure it's enough to really matter.

Is the final design even supposed to run all three engines off the header tanks? I would assume yes, but even if that's the case these prototypes might not be intended to do that yet.

>>12663667
I bet other countries astronaut food is absolute garbage in comparison. What do US astronauts get?

>>12665835
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/agency/upcoming/1/

>>12665611
The only reason I could think of was if there wasn't enough header tank fuel or fuel flow capacity, even if the redundant engine was stopped quickly after all engines stabilized. But the header tanks aren't really finalized, so they could make them bigger in a later prototype.

>>12664069
>10 democrats sent him a letter asking to fully fund HLS and expedite down selection
Yeah, Dems from states with massive plants and related companies that build said landers.
Shelby retired and now everyone is chomping at the MUH SPACEFLIGHT GIBS.

>>12664204
Uh based

>>12664711
>How build
3D printer
Its like you aren't living in 2021 with us.