/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12657557
FIRST for SLS.

>>12657567
*last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHqbahPKpY

>>12657570
Seethe, and, cope.

Hop thread here:
>>12657083
>>12657083
>>12657083
>>12657083

>>12657576
ceethe and sope, Sh*lby

>>12657567
What a waste that the first flight to the moon is just to go around. They should land some equipment on their way, like inflatable habitats, etc.

I'm gonna post about the hop in /sfg/ and nobody can stop me

HHHOOOOOPPPP????????????????????
AAAAAHAHWHWGWDHEEFBFEDDJENDE

>>12657596
sls can't lift anything except orion

>>12657627
SLS can't lift anything with a 67 second burn on the SSME, it needs to keep those museum pieces lit for eight minutes

>>12657567
>rendered image
lol

RANGE
VIOLATION

BOEING BOOMERS HAVE DONE IT AGAIN

>>12657627
>sls can't lift anything except orion

>>12657627
Shit.

JEFF!!!

>>12657698
that's block 2, it wont fly for years even after block 1 flies

>>12657596
>What a waste that the first flight to the moon is just to go around. They should land some equipment on their way, like inflatable habitats, etc.
The entire reason Gateway exists is that Block 1 SLS with ICPS can't lift more than the Orion capsule, not even a lander. Moonship is unironically the cheapest way per ton to get cargo to the lunar surface if orbital refueling works.

>>12657698
>posts a rocket that doesn't exist

>range violation
It's over, Nuspace. We have the high ground.

>>12657627
>Orion is 33 tons
>Apollo CSM is 28 tons
Why is Orion so FAT, bros?

FAA TRUCK IN 30

Why not use drones with thermal imaging?

>>12657737
SLS Block 2 is still about three tons shy of the Saturn V's payload to TLI. A hypothetical SLS Block 3 with F-1B Pyrios boosters instead of SRBs would have been the greatest cargo lift rocket ever had it launched before the Shuttle was retired... but it didn't. Now it's a relic.

>>12657777
Wait, w-what happened? That sounds killer

>>12657832
NASA was studying F-1B based boosters for SLS But got screwed out of it back in 2015 because muh Utah SRB factory.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2015/05/solid-fuel-boosters-not-liquid-will-likely-launch-nasas-giant-sls-rocket/

>>12657832
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocketdyne_F-1#F-1A_after_Apollo

>>12657576
says the one defending the cucked Launch System and Jews siphoning off TWO (2) billion dollars per launch (but in their effort of embezzling money they didn't yet launch A SINGLE ONE, after over 9 years KEK)

>>12657837
FUCK CONTRACTOR FRIENDLY
FUCK BOEING
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>12657825
The Starship HLS midships engines are Super Dracos, right?

>>12657739
I remember reading somewhere that Orion's mass was intentionally pushed outside of the range of the EELV's so NASA would have "no choice" but to build a shuttle-derived launch vehicle for it

>>12657886
nobody knows what they are

>>12657886
>>12657891
I thought they were confirmed to be methalox

>>12657698
>a fukken render. . .

>>12657886
Think they want to methane versions of the dracos for single source of fuel.

ENGINE CHILL

I just remembered this rocket literally fell the fuck over...

New job posting at Space X just came out-

>Drone Operator, $90,000 Starting salary (Experienced military combat drone operators only)
>Experience with Air to Surface missile operations on moving targets such as vehicles and boats a plus

ENGINE CHILL

>>12657905
She was drunk give her a break.

SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT
>SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT
SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT
>SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT
SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT
>SPACEX STREAM IMMINENT

>>12657825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAtLTLiqNwg

~50 min interview.

>>12657927
soiurce?

>>12657886
they're related to Raptor but without the turbomachinery

Launch around 2:25p CST if no holds

>>12657905
She didn't fall. She was just leaning a little bit. Haven't you ever been tired after a long day? Why I oughta...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZ7fIkpBgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZ7fIkpBgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZ7fIkpBgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZ7fIkpBgs

LIVE

>>12658010

INNNNNNNSPRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

DADDY INSPUNKER YES

>>12658010
35 secs

>>12657853
There is a reason /sfg/ stands for SLS Fury General half the time.

W E G A A N

>>12658010
Liftoff

YOUTUBE ERRORR?

>>12658124
Werks for me

>cameras dying already
SpaceX still can't figure out cameras

>>12658124
yeah it's fucked
they have one job and can't do it.

>>12658124
here

Oh fuck engine rich again

>>12658141
stream is back

IT FLIPPED

ABSOLUTELY

BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS DDOSING THE SPACEX STREAM
SCREENCAP THIS

Oh god oh fuck IM GONNA COOOOOOOM

f

FAILED

BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

EFF

Welp

landing failed :(

GODDAMMIT SNINE

FUCK

Flip too late

Bellatorius Victorialis
Patriota Gladiator
Rest in Peace, SNIX.

UH OH SPACEX BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

dropped on its head at birth, cant relight engine

FUUUUUUUUUCK

there goes cirnoship

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SLS WINS AGAIN

That looked way worse than SN8.

F

F

>>12658317
Only one engine relit.

seems like one engine failed to ignite, meaning not enough gimbal to recover from flip.
reason for engine relight failure unknown

>SN10 just witnessed the death of her only friend

One engine did not relight
Maybe need to start the landing a bit earlier

>>12658317
Not really. One engine seemed to fully ignite for this one, in SN8 none of the engines fully ignited

debris went absolutely everywhere, lots of shit's on fire. wonder about damage to SN10

Sn 10 this week?

Face it. SLS is the future.

>>12658310
SLS:
67 second burn aborted due to computer failure
Total flight time: 0 seconds
STARSHIP:
Two chad detonations
Total flight time: 10 cumulative minutes, 22 total kilometers

>sn8 was perfect except loss of pressure
>sn9 was a shitshow
how

>>12658380
engines aren't mounted and no static fires yet so a couple weeks or more probably

>>12658385
More like it'll only launch 50 years into the future.

>>12658385
>hasn't even flown
>fucking failure on a test stand

>>12658401
it might of been the same issue

>>12658401
you can't just stand a rocket up and bang the dents out, it's not that easy in rocketry

looks like SNX is alright at least

Will they run out of starships before they have to use SN15?

Sooo.... SNX hop when?

>>12658401
One of the engines didnt fire

>>12658419
It wasn't though, sn8 reoriented, sn9 didn't even manage that

SN10 watches on in horror, for it knows it's next.

>>12658404
They said they're aiming for this month for SNX. But, yeah, could easily slip.

Raptors are shit

This was not a header tank issue, since one engine lit and they all draw from the same tank.
No green flame on the other one either.
This was definetly a raptor issue

i just don't understand this reusable rocket/pad/tankfarm/second rocket/local area meme...

sn9 slipped on a banana peel

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1356703226737745921

they should just light all three raptors on landing so they have at least two that work

>>12658461
>I don't get this "docks" meme, just let the ship run to shore!

>>12658401
Looks like the 2nd landing engine just failed to start.

>>12658440
SN8 relit both engines and reorientated but then ran out of propellant and lacked enough thrust to stop itself before hitting the pad.
SN9 relit only one engine, but it didn't run out of fuel. SO one issue fixed, another popped up. Maybe the same, affecting one engine heavily but not the other. Should know later.

>*record scratch*
>freeze frame

>>12658124
>>12658141
the youtube errors are on your end, I was getting those all the time and now that I've switched to using Ubuntu on a 10 year old laptop instead of Windows on a brand new gaming PC I've stopped having that issue

They can't deal with 3 raptors, what's going to happen with more?

Say it with me, /sfg/:
SPACE
IS
HARD

>>12658481
yeah, something's still up with the feed

>>12658487
if the issue is with propellant feed that won't help

Fuck Urf, fuck Boing, fuck the FAA, and fuck YouTube.

>>12658487
IMO they should slightly increase the landing propellant margin and light the engines a hundred meters higher up to give it a second or two more to maneuver.

AMERICAN KAPUTNIK
Why even bother pretending anymore? China will land on the Moon next, not you dumb yankees.

>>12658457
Still a longer static fire than SLS

you can see the piece of debris falling in this clip even before the impact

>>12657557
Hop successful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TePMH466QJI

>>12658481
Ouch. Something ran engine-rich again.

>>12658539
whaT the fuCK
also what are the chances STEN is damaged? it looks so close

>>12658539
At least it doesn't look like anything big touched SN10.

>>12658500
You can really tell musk thought S9 was going to land it perfectly so he rolled out S10 for epic marketing photos and probably an interview in front of them with estronaut. There is no valid reason for it to be so close to the pad other than to satiate musk’s ego.

See you in a month for S10 scrubx

Do the hop, Snten, or Snine will have to do it again.

Ready to admit you were wrong about "reusability", Muskcels?

>>12658539
Didn't slow down nearly as much as SN8

>>12658553
shrapnel could easily have punctured something. they'll find out when pressure testing I guess. I'm interested in the state of the landing pad. hit way harder than SN8

why don’t they give starship retractable wings so it can glide down safely in the martian atmosphere

Kek the COPV doing some flips

>>12658539
It's falling so slowly I'm almost doubting it's an important piece of the engine.
Could it actually be part of the skirt shielding?

>>12658564
Maybe but it also sends a message that this failure is no big deal they have another one ready to go, even more than SN8's cratering did

>>12658576
There are no runways on Mars and there isn't any lift on mars.

Apologize.

>>12658564
Also just saw Musk’s twitter. He’s not tweeting so this was probably meant to be some historic moment he hired a film crew for to document like the Falcon heavy launch. Pathetic

Most important thing: Hoppy is still standing there, watching over her sisters.

>>12658553
SNX will probably need a few inspections lol

Someone webm the labpadre stream

>>12658588
His last tweet was about going off twitter 12h ago you dunce

>SN9 and SNX

>Elon personally attaches the Raptors and launches SN10 before the TFR ends
>it also explodes on landing

So what fell off?

>>12658591
Was my top fear watching the finish there. Looked like hoppy was about to fet obliterated.

>>12658458
We went over this last time. If one raptor lights first and starts pulling all the fuel, the other one will choke out. They still haven't figured out how to keep proper pressure to the raptors while horizontal.
If you look close, the second landing raptor just about fires up before crashing because SS was vertical.

>>12658615
The front.

>>12658564
>>12658588
I think he blew it up on purpose. Its a perfect way to show that hes already got another ready to go and he can get catastrophic failure data.

There seemed to be a lot of smoke coming from the engines during descent, maybe the one who didn't relight burned itself during ascent?

>>12658572
>>12658579
one engine failed to ignite

>>12658598

SNX UP NEXT

>>12658615
Most likely something from the raptor that was failing

>>12658621
Lad I want SpaceX to succeed as much as any other but the cope on this post.

>>12658620
Is that supposed to happen?

>>12658615
The license plate, probably

>>12658620
Wasn't it designed so that wouldn't happen?

Seems like the avionics are functional. Seems like raptors are still relatively unreliable. It looked like a loss of power as it tried to re-orient itself.

>>12658646

Bort license plates, it all makes sense.

>>12658629
Kino as fuck
What's in the nosecone tank? LOX or CH4?

you guys think SNX will nail it?

>>12658615
the FAA authorization

>>12658665
The ball tank all the way up front? LOX.

>>12658629
look at that COPV go

Why don't they just start the engines sooner instead of trying to stick perfectly calculated burns?

>>12658668
Once they fix the raptors? Yeah.

>Implying rocketry is the future of space travel

Why are we wasting billions on dinosaur tech? Shit is so lame

>>12658501
I'm on MacOS and I was getting YouTube errors too

And it was only on the SpaceX stream, the NasaSpaceFlight stream was fine

>>12658629
Fuck yeah, best webm so far.

>>12658668
SNX may suffer a similar issue, but if all goes right, it may land. SN15 is probably gonna be the first that is much less likely to crash though, it has a newer thrust puck design that's probably designed to mitigate the uneven raptor pressure issue.

>>12658629
In slow mo.

>>12658674
Straight outta kerbal space program when all your rocket parts start flying off

>>12658689
As opposed to?

>>12658668
I give it an ~80% chance of sticking it, I think they’ve learned a lot from 8 and 9

>>12658668
elon should ride in it as a publicity stunt

>>12658629
This is just BEGGING for a kerbal edit

>>12658692
Staple solutions may not work for raptor/header tank issue. My bet is on SN15, granted. I think it was a coinflip. If that engine re-lighted the avionics would of taken care of the rest

>>12658686
Because SpaceX is the master of hoverslams. They are the only ones who are good at it and it's how they land F9's. Safe hover landings are for pussies

>>12658693
Steel Zeppelin

>>12658615

>>12658124
Youtube shat itself for me too

>>12658693
I take it you would not fare so well if you were in that nosecone lmao

At least the heat shield stayed on

>>12658686
Because longer duration burn requires more fuel. SpaceX wants optimized solutions, not half baked shits Bezos is doing.

>>12658689
Well what's the future then, Isaac Awthor?

>>12658710
>hoverslams
*suicide burns
corporate propaganda -> English

>>12658500
>she fucking slipped
Snine you baka

>>12658689
>>Implying rocketry is the future of space travel
What alternative is there?
The aerospike Venturestar was killed off and Skylon will never be made.

>>12658636
While I do not think it was on purpose, it's well within what's expected. It WAS supposed to take several tries to get it right.

>>12658693
that one engine seems to be doing ok

>>12658567
Shut the fuck up Shelby, i run this shit now

>>12658726
I wonder how much useful data they can get from just that.

>>12658385
If sls is the future we won't have a base in the moon, much less in Mars.

>>12658740
There's supposed to be two relighting to give ths ship the proper thrust/gimbal power to correct itself. Instead only one lit and the other tried hard to start but couldn't.

>>12658717
2nd engine ignited briefly, what happened?

Can the FAA PLEASE let them fly SN10 asap

Assuming the raptor relight was a propellant feed issue, why doesn't spaceX just swap to using piston pressurized header tanks (not the main tanks)

>>12658453
End of the month looks achievable.

>>12658760
It appears that the front fell off.

>>12658717
that one engine looked pretty good. It DID sputter a bit at peak g-forces during the flip but was able to recover. Wonder if they could slow down the flip a bit?

lol SN10 just witnessed how it will die.

right now that the fuss about nothing is over we can go back to talking about real rockets. real rockets that you can see down at the stand at stennis

>>12658760
Well a) shit started flying off the rocket which I'm sure wasn't nominal, and b) it looks like the second engine was burping. So the torch igniters were probably fucked

>>12658310
>sits in a clean room cuckshed for 9+ years
>gets lit for barely a minute then sizzles out in true ED fashion
>well, this will take another 5bn dollars to work out, guess the launch has to be delayed by 2 years, sorry
meanwhile
>get built by redneck welders out in the open, maybe in a tent for some "techy" components
>have to weather storms, some parts go flying, doesn't matter, takes it
>makes multiple test flights per quarter, doesn't give a fuck if it blows up, two more will take its place
>all of this costs less than one projected launch for SLS (if there's ever going to be one)

>>12658768
>>12658764
They probably aren't set up for it. But early march will likely where it creeps too.

Pack it up boys, SpaceX is done. Musk can talk a big game, but today makes it clear that it's just rhetoric, and he can't deliver the results. Space is hard, that's why we need to return to tried and true methods of reusability.

>>12657557
Kek

>>12658764
I think they're trying to be very greedy with weight savings and also Elon hates complexity. "best part is no part" etc etc. They may have to do something like this though

Oh, i was waiting for this. Maybe NASA should not be defunded after all, Musktards

>"and we're getting ready for landing burn"
>shit flips around
>massive explosion
shit that caught me off guard, it all happened so fast

i love this man

https://youtu.be/oFORTe2T15U
Post SN9 funeral music

>>12658703
It's even nicer in higher res, you can see one of the black gas tanks that was underneath the engine skirt go flying off, then drop down in the middle of the screen.

>>12658619
something went flying before re-ignition, I think the second Raptor got fucked up. Header issue seems fixed

>these retards parked sn10 just next to sn9, despite the possibility of something going wrong

SN8's reorientation was gorgeous. Watching her flip herself upright was almost eerie. So they've got the control part figured out, and there's no reason to think SN9 wouldn't've landed if the engines had both relit properly.

I think SN10 is likely to also crash because it's basically the same design as SN8 and SN9, but SN15 stands a great chance of sticking the landing.

cope

>>12658822
Elon understands that God rolls dice and the dice are usually in his favor

>>12658837
>12h

>>12658837
>going home to hatefuck grimes. see u losers l8er

>>12658790
Say what you want about the steel cans, but no one died from them.

>>12658836
Does SN10 even have the engines mounted? Because the problem is clearly related to them. If you fix it then SN10 should be able to land.

>>12658822
I mean, right now SN10 is just a hunk of steel really. No raptors installed yet, so I don’t think they’re too worried about it. I can’t imagine they would put it out there if they weren’t prepared to lose it

>>12658853
how much time does it take to weld up these silos?

>>12658785
space X's approach to rocketry is hilarious. Rather than being so risk adverse that testing never happens, they just test whatever is ready right then and there and correct what went wrong. Seems much cheaper to explode several rockets than leave 1 rocket in R&D for 10 years.
>is it ready?
>no
>very good. schedule a test flight next week and use the data from whatever makes it back to Earth.
>but its going to fail
>exactly.

>>12658782
holy fuck that tower makes me hard

>>12658865
Meanwhile SLS intentionally sets limits low to stop tests early.

>>12658865
Its the Soviet/KSP approach

>>12658644
Why did the starship explode?
Well it hit the ground.
Is that unusual?
During landing? Oh yeah, chance in a million!

How mad is the FAA right now? Did Elon have a license for that COPV flight?

>>12658883
A single SSME probably costs more than every Starship prototype so far combined lmao

Nice fireworks.

Now, can we get back to kneeling? It's only day 2.

>>12658862
A month for the steel structure. Maybe another one with all the electric motors, plumbing, thrusters and engines etc.

>>12658786
Why not? They have a whole month to put the engines and run tests. If they put the engines this week the have the next one to test it and is good to go.

>>12658636
Its not a cope post as much of a skeptical post. If it was a failure it makes plenty of sense and doesn't really stop progress for spacex. But I'm still skeptical that some of this isn't planned

>>12658905
If the problem where relatively easy, they would have solved it. Raptor issues have been constant and cosnsistency has been hard. In terms of header pressurization it's also an open question.

>>12658894
One SSME can buy 75 Raptors.

why would they try to land it right next to some others

>>12658887
Top kek

>>12658918
Why don't they put someone inside with a parachute to see first hand what the problem is?

>>12658898
>plumbing
Ever see the rebuild of a shuttle engine? The joke is that the engineers are more plumber than engineer.

Meanwhile in Russia, they just launched another spy sat. We're waiting on pictures but it was a successful launch.
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1356710861352669185

Kek look at the flaps right before landing. She's desperately trying to compensate. I feel bad

JEFF IS GONE

>>12658925
>>12658894
SSMEs have actually been reused

BEZOS STEPS DOWN AS CEO OF AMAZON
WILL THIS MEAN HE FOCUSES ON BLUE ORIGIN???????
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>12658865
it also makes a single failure less embarrassing, when you take it extra slow and still fuck up (SLS). Or Bezos who is neurotic about fucking up publicily, so he still does shit nobody gives a fuck about anymore
>for the low-low price of 199(k)$ you too can free fall for 3 minutes

>>12658943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggg3C87UVCY
someone will make this for sn9

>>12658944
>>12658947
Wait what

>>12658947
I hope so but his decision track record doesn't make me that confident that his refocusing would actually fix their problems

>>12658947
>WILL THIS MEAN HE FOCUSES ON BLUE ORIGIN???????
He will be too busy drinking the blood of children and enjoying his retirement.

>>12658943
That second engine definitely shit something out upon lighting. Was that a fucking turbopump or something??

Fuck sake why is every SN9 thread on other boards full of doomer posters?

>>12658956
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/02/jeff-bezos-to-step-down-as-amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-to-take-over-in-q3.html

>>12658886
They actually conduct test firings unlike the soviets so it's best of both worlds really.

>>12658947
>Interesting. A few years back, Bezos said he wanted to reduce his hours at Amazon to spend more time working on Blue Origin. Wonder if that's what he's going to do.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1356711111895220230

>>12658953
>brutality ensues

>>12658964
Because they don't understand rockets, spaceflight, or space in general. I used to take some things on /pol/ seriously until I wandered into a moonhoax thread.

>>12658964
people on 4chan hate optimism and anyone who's interested in things

>>12658964
remember the early days of F9 landings? like every single one was failing. Then F9 blew up. On the return to flight they nailed the first landing (and the first LAND landing).

>>12658897
Sure, I'll kneel

Bezos is now out at Amazon. We might actually see BO reach orbit this decade if he's devoting more time to it.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22263039/amazon-new-ceo-jeff-bezos-andy-jassy-executive-chair-board-q3-2021

>>12658974
MARCH: New Armstrong straight out the gate, straight to orbit, reentry straight into a loop-da-loop then 100% nails landing. Musk suicides as a result.

>>12658964
Take this as a life lession
Try -> Fail = Mocking and ridicule
Try -> Success = Praise and admiration

May the spirit of von braun raise us up on Starship's wings

>>12658874
same

>>12658964
it's just shitposting. No need to take it seriously.

>>12658974
>as Exec Chair I will stay engaged in important Amazon initiatives but also have the time and energy I need to focus on the Day 1 Fund, the Bezos Earth Fund, Blue Origin, The Washington Post, and my other passions.
He didn't even list it first. This seems like a retirement to me and that he isn't going all out to catch Elon.

>>12658953
>nuclear ebil
>build solar
>but also build fossil fuel generators for the night

>>12658982
smol brain: watching launch livestreams because you're emotionally invested in space travel

giga brain: watching launch livestreams because you like watching spaceships explode

>>12658943
if any SN was going to be baka it would be 9

>>12658964
idk this is totally fine desu, snine has many components that snate didn't, and the mission profile was different as well. there's a reason why they're pumping out a ton of them. time is of the essence - if you want quick development, you're going to need to blow up a lot of experimental designs on the way. months of simulations would be nice, but why take all that time when you can just... keep trying?

ignore baldposters, spacex is still going strong. i'm not even a fanboy, elon's a creep, but spacex has the right people behind his clown face to make good rockets.

Did SN10 get hit with the debris?

It is time to ground all spacex flights until America has its own reliably operational super heavy lift vehicle up and running and safely carrying American astronauts to the Moon and back! We can't allow anymore explosions and endangering American lives like this! Reports are coming of high amounts of toxic particulate matter from the region that might be resulting in health problems for Americans there!

BAAAAAAAAAKA

SN10 glowing in the flames of it's sibling 100x zoom

>>12657557

what happen

>>12658991
Jeff Bozo

NOOOOOOOOO I MISSED IT

>>12659013
The front fell off.

>>12659013
The front fell off.

>>12659007
baka sn9

>>12659013
The front fell off.

>>12659013
It stuck the landing, orbit by summer and Mars next year

>>12658964
Which other boards have SN9 threads?

This general has gone down in quality ever since SN9's flight. We've been waiting for SN10 to get engines for too long

>>12659020
>>12659022

something nice happen?

>>12659025
/g/, /pol/, /tv/, /v/ have at least one thread

>>12659033
Today was a big loss for the Chinese Space Agency

>>12659030
This general has gone down in quality since inception*

>>12658999
Probably doesn't want to get hounded
>le ebil billionaire playing rockets reeee
from day 1

SN9 died as she lived: LEANING.

>>12658967
>As Exec Chair I will stay engaged in important Amazon initiatives but also have the time and energy I need to focus on the Day 1 Fund, the Bezos Earth Fund, Blue Origin, The Washington Post, and my other passions. I’ve never had more energy, and this isn’t about retiring. I’m super passionate about the impact I think these organizations can have.
While he lists Blue Origin as a passion he wants to focus on, he lists the dying WaPo in the same breath. I wouldn't get my hopes up for BO.

rare gold edition starship

>>12659008
if it did i imagine they'd just rivet a patch and seal it with epoxy found at Lowes.

fuck you berger you kike

>>12659050

>>12658689
based space gun appreciator

Poor Snine, bless you. Will Sten make it? Seems like SpaceX has a strict rule of having them witness their predecessors failures to push them.

>>12659050
NICE GOLD FAG!

>>12659050
Orange rocket...good????

https://twitter.com/chrisg_nsf/status/1356648990809485316?s=21
two Starlink launches on Thursday

>>12659045
>dying
It's a loss-leader propaganda rag. He can keep it going basically forever.

>>12658761
This.

this dude covers spaceflight but hates space? https://twitter.com/Space_Jared
what's the point?

>>12659055
If the FAA had some solid concern, do you think they'd've rolled over like this? SpaceX called their bluff.

SNIX is dead. Long live SNX.

>>12659069
The fine is likely cheaper than having to jump through the hoops to get cleared.
its the $75 parking meter but $10 fine problem.

Raptor is a farce

>>12659050
this reminds me: will starship/superheavy change color over time due to reentry heat? Sorry if it's a dumb question I'm no dwarf

>>12659078
libs hate everything.

>>12659057
>no sound on launchpadcam DURINGF THE LAUNHC
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>12659083
ur face is farce

>>12659090
not more than dark straw, the heat tiles will be on the really toast side

>>12659044
under rated

>>12659090
>this reminds me: will starship/superheavy change color over time due to reentry heat? Sorry if it's a dumb question I'm no dwarf
Yep

>>12659099
aw man. Blue starship would have looked super cool

SN8 was arguably closer to landing. I guess the problem was no fuel vs. no engine at all

>>12659104
Elon needs to invest in giant kilns for pre-bluing

>>12658564
The fact SN10 came out unscathed from that explosion is proof enough that they have nailed everything subsonic about the Starship except the landing.

>>12659078
>pronouns in bio

>>12658953
Ecotricity is run by a cunt

>>12659090
282°C would look cool as fuck

Business idea: swap out Superheavy with an SRB

>>12659055
How did they "violate the launch license"? Was my "unlicensed COPV flight" meme too close to reality?

>>12659098
shut up

the amount of damage control in this thread is amazing.

>>12659127
How powerful would a 9 meter diameter SRB be?

>>12659136
Can't handle bantz

>>12659137
fail fast, they literally have another one almost ready to go next to it

>>12659137
control these NUTS boy lol got eem

>>12659136
no u

>>12659135
they requested some kind of safety waiver which the FAA denied.

>>12659079
More like their phones are ringing off the hook by angry zoomers and it was all bullshit bureaucratic nonsense anyways

>>12659137
You're overblowing it. As in you blow too much. There are some that try to stay in denial but most saw something they didn't like but fully expected.

>Astra is going public
oh boy another cash grab under the guise of a launch startup

>>12659140
It would be the throostiest rocket stage ever designed by some ludicrous margin. It would also be much more expensive than SuperHeavy because Raptors are so cheap.

>>12658668
It doesn’t “suck” except for all the cleanup and fixing little punctures in their tankage
The damn thing was gonna be scrapped anyways

>>12659137
>HERE'S WHY STARSHIP IS NOT A FAILURE GUYS
honestly it's embarrassing. and since bezos is not longer CEO of Amazon he will work fulltime to spank SPaceX panzy ass lol

>>12659127
IMAGINE THE PLOOOOOM

>>12658947
I just don't understand this reusable CEO meme

>>12659166
You sure he won't be retiring to sniff that tranny of his instead?

>>12659166
That will only happen if he somehow manages to steal all the top engineers from SpaceX. He has the money to do it but I'm not sure if they will be persuaded so easy

>>12659166
But SN9 was. SN8 wasn't.

>>12659055
literally just read the article and his other statements, which are all in total support, you mong.

>>12659166
gotta love hans koenigsmann and tom mueller dropping shit within months of eachother, even the livestream host and og falcon 9 landing software guy left. it's getting more and more clear that spacex is finished

>>12659137
>I don’t understand iterative testing

No one really cares that an expendable test article exploded instead of landing. They’ll just make more of them

>>12659140
Thrust oscillation alone would fly it into orbit from how fucking strong it'd be.

>>12659059
>SN10 causes the third impact

>itt. Sfg anons try to troll eachother

>>12659155
That will be $2.1 billion, plus tip.

>>12659166
big words coming from someone sucking such a tiny pecker

>>12659185
Wow, cope much?

>>12659185
I do care, watching crash and explode repost edition is less interesting of a result than the first landing. But it's not a big deal.

>>12658947
Bezos on the moon by 2022 confirmed, Musk fanboys are sweating right now

>>12659189
This happened last hop too.

>>12659176
Isn’t there some rule in aerospace/MIC that bars you from working at rival companies for a while?

>>12659192
???
What are you talking about?
It’s a cheap test article, and delays for this stuff are measured in months and weeks, not years like NASA

which is the first SN with the fixed header tanks?

>>12659140
well, the most powerful rocket engine ever made was 6.6m in diameter and an SRB, so, probably significantly more powerful than that.

http://www.astronautix.com/a/aj-260-2.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l0PfZPnAdo
legit scared that he's losing it

Sarcasm or cope?

>>12659203
SN15, if they have been "fixed" at all.

>>12659206
it's actually hard to tell.

>>12659206
Berger wants to cancel spaceflight because he is an authoritarian liberal

>>12659206
kek what a fucking lickspittle faggot jesus christ

>>12659206
Blue Origin has become a parts seller. Bezosfeld knows how to sell shit at least.

>>12659198
What's the critical path to put Bezos on the moon by 2022?
>tragically dies in an autoerotic asphyxiation-related event
>ashes put on an ion drive smallsat launched from a falcon 9 which crashes itself into the moon

>>12658508
This is why we test...

Bezos and his rocket company Blue Pee have announced SN1 (Sniffer Numero Uno) of their New Glenn (partially) reusable space fister

>>12659206
A boss that doesn’t understand shit yelling at everyone is how you run a startup into the ground lol

Why didnt raptor 3 take over once raptor 2 failed?

Why don't they try landing it a bit further so it doesn't destroy everything when it lands?

>>12659225
Whenever I see the "Canada" sticker on the arm I get irrationally angry, you could say seething. Idk why

>>12659140
Note my friend, SRB diameter correlates more with burn time than with thrust. SRB length means more gas flowing out of the same diameter nozzle per second, ie more thrust.
This is why the boosters on SLS are about 125% the thrust of the boosters on Shuttle even though they're the same diameter: it's because the SLS boosters are 5 segments instead of 4.

>>12659228
UUHHHH UMMMMMM DUURRR
why do you think? SpaceX is master at half assing everything

>>12659228
Because they didn't even bother trying to program something like that is my bet. Looks like this "older generation" of prototypes has been relegated to the "throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks" bin.

>>12659206
>Nothing like having the boss--an incredibly brilliant, hard-driving, demanding person--
this is ironic or the gayest brownnosing I've ever seen

>>12659231
Because Canucks are quick to claim they "basically built half the shuttle"

>>12659205
sam hyde style audio

>>12659166
>>12659137
Have zoomers already forgotten the Falcon testing? It managed to land after 2 years of tries, in 2015. Just watch this compilation:
https://youtu.be/bvim4rsNHkQ
You see that there were way more problems than engine failures. Meanwhile, Starship flies almost perfectly, except for the reignition part during the landing. It's just a test and sooner or later they're going to fix it.

Don’t see why anyone would be upset about Bezos focusing more on Blue Origin. I hope they do stuff too

>>12659239
Seems like it'd be pretty easy to add compared to everything else it's programmed to do, so it wouldn't have hurt them too much.

>>12659166
Starlink has completely fucked all other companies from competing

>>12659239
Old engines, old designs, old welding, etc
Fly it and see how it goes

>>12659255
I don't think anyone is upset, we just don't expect anything to change.

>>12659231

>>12659231
>>12659246
yeah, i think it's that they're so proud of what they created when they created the bare fucking minimum. they didnt innovate shit, they made a fucking pole

>>12659255
yeah if the competition is healthy it’ll only make things better. cant let anyone get complacent

>>12659261
OneWeb, Telesat, and Geely are all trying to compete. The first two are state backed. Geely can probably be state backed at any moment if the CCP decides on it.

>>12659206
I genuinely can’t tell.

>>12659273
>state backed
hahaha oneweb and telesat are absolutely finished

Jeff Bezos steps down as Amazon CEO right as SN9 explodes.

Is Blue Origin finally happening.

>>12659205
>says SN9, its SN8
>Rape audio
>Advanced autism
>Looks like Elon
Is this Elon's secret son or something? Who is the mother bros?

>>12659273
"state backed" doesn't mean much when your state has a tiny (vestigial, in britain's case) space program. Especially when your competitor's putting much more in orbit for much less cost

>>12659284
>Step aside Musk, it's time for the professionals to show you how it's done.

>>12659240
Brown nosing. It's how business rags talk about how he handled Amazon.

Biden is DESTROYING spaceforce. It’s over bros, say goodbye to american space flight
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1356693448045318154?s=20

>>12659269
It did have one good feature anon
> The Canadarm is outfitted with an explosive-based mechanism to allow the arm to be jettisoned

>>12659273
>>12659288
>Brit
>space program

>>12659288
uk has a mature satellite industry. not that that means oneweb will be anything other than a failure.

>>12659295
Lol no. While that bitch is an absolute clueless airhead, Uncle Joe is keeping Space Force

>>12659295
That bitch has no idea about the future of the space force

>>12659300
maybe we can bribe a commercial astronaut to press that button

>>12659306
Look, the UK has a thriving satellite sector and is committed to funding spaceflight more than e...

Sorry no I just can't be bothered this time

they forgot to balance it for lean

>scottish spaceport
>cornish spaceport
>space command
You guys act like the UK isn't trying to step up their space game.

>>12659312
>>12659315
commie cope.

>>12659295
I shouldn't have looked. Fucking subhuman soi golems

>>12659321
yeah and i’m trying to clean up my act, i still slept with 4 guys off grindr this month.

>>12659322
I'm a trump supporter, im just not a retard (you)

>>12659332
Top?

>>12659336
natch. bottoms are 2ez.

>>12659260
Yeah, same to me. But I don't work at SpaceX too so eh.

Like hell he would. Won't win the loyalty of armed forces by disbanding newly established branch, where enemies are going to focus their attention in the future, if not present.

>>12658686
elon doesn't compromise on performance

>>12659266
I expect things to change for the worse as per totally not dripping with sarcasm Berger's tweet.

Ummmmm guys....what happened? You said this could never happen. What about all the gets?? What about the software guy, he said for sure next time it would work.....god I just dont feel good about this, what if something is deeply wrong with starship? you would think they would fixed after SN8 but SN9 was worse, at least both engines lit on SN8 but not SN9. I think this is really bad bros

>>12659273
Starlink is already set up anon

>>12659339
Fuckin pzzed faggot I hope you die a painal death

>>12659315
It has no future lol

B A S E D

lmao

>>12659347
Also it simply, factually is not the Trumpian excess that people seem to paint it as and somebody inside the admin should know this. Not to mention the fate of tens of billions of tax payer dollars.

>>12659360
my dad (who's 65) talks about how his gay friend's ass is mostly outside of his body due to years of anal and prolapsing. i wonder if it smells

>>12659373
>factually is not the Trumpian excess that people seem to paint it as
shows you just how factual and unbiased the media's coverage of Trump (where these normalfags get all their news from) really was

>>12659371
lars on suicide watch, possibly fired soon?

>>12659376
i'm gay but i hate anal so this is good

>>12659358
>You said this could never happen.
When and where?

>>12659371
Its nice when one explosion is not a make or break to your company

Bezos still owns Amazon I don't know what the fuss is about the new CEO will still do whatever he says

>>12659360
i’m on prep (for free) but die mad about it
and i mostly sleep with the tomboys (female) you find on there anyway.
UK will die on earth and there will never be an englishman to live off of its surface

>>12659379
Yes Musk will have to fire all Americans and hire only non-citizens after the California lawsuit goes through. It’s over bros

>>12659384
Literally just read the thread, are you illegible?

Nobody cares about gay stuff. Go somewhere else

>>12659334
If you look at the Obama administration's track record you know that space is gonna get fucked by biden

>>12659267

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