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HIPPITY HOPPITY edition

Livestreams:
SpaceX Official Stream: ???
NSF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPRfJxz-ECE
EDA: https://youtu.be/NtGutb1R5cQ
LabPadre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5l9ZxsG9M

Launch window: January 25, ~12:00-6:00 PM CST (6:00-12:00 UTC)
Today's attempt is expected later in the window due to weather.
There are backup windows on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Launch vehicle: SpaceX Starship Serial Number 9 (SN9)
Launch pad: Starship Launch Site, Boca Chica, Texas
Landing pad: Starship Landing Pad, Boca Chica, Texas
Hop parameters: Max altitude will be 12.5 kilometers. A horizontal 'flop' following apogee will occur. Right before landing, the vehicle will perform a powered flip to return upright. Engines are expected to be turned off gradually on ascent.

Road Closures: https://www.cameroncounty.us/spacex/
Marine safety bulletin: http://www.qualityapps.com/Contents/CommunityGuide/Texas/BocaChica/NTM24Jan2021.pdf
TFR: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_5669.html (Monday)
TFR: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_5670.html (Tuesday)
TFR: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_5672.html (Wednesday)

SpaceX twitter: https://twitter.com/SpaceX

This is the first flight of SN9, and the second flight of a Starship prototype with aerodynamic surfaces and a nose cone. It is unknown if the flight parameters will be different compared to SN8 (watch here: https://youtu.be/ap-BkkrRg-o?t=6462))

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>> No.12627062

Why did Mary say the evac notice was fake? Is SpaceX pulling our dicks?

>> No.12627064

I just heard some kind of PA system voice on Launch Pad cam a minute ago, didn't have my volume cranked up so I couldn't understand but I think HOPPENING.

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>>12627028
Dubs and SN9 sticks the landing

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ALL MOCKERY
OF BOEING
AND THE SLS
IS TO BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM

>> No.12627075

>>12627064
she said 1 pm pad clear, 3 pm site clear

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>>12627071
Yes sir, I will stand down for now in accordance with the will of Large James Bridenstine

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>>12627071
No

>> No.12627081

>>12627070
a second explosion on landing but a different failure mode to SN8 wouldn't be too bad. It means they have the hard stuff figured out (the first 98% of flight) and just need to tweak some things.

>> No.12627088

>>12627081
It's gonna land

>> No.12627097

>>12627088
yeah it's going to be a rapid unscheduled landing

>> No.12627099

News coverage. Anyone know if there are more or less MSM folks in Boca for this one vs SN8?
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/01/spacex-set-to-launch-its-next-starship-prototype-on-monday/
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021/01/starship-sn9-speedy-recovery-static-fire-launch/
https://www.cnet.com/news/spacex-starship-sn9-could-take-flight-as-soon-as-today/
https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/spacex-to-launch-starship-sn9-prototype/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/spacex-prepares-for-test-of-starship-sn9
https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-sn9-static-fire-january-22-2021

>>12627088
we can hope!

>> No.12627100

>>12627088
it's gonna land but crumple to shit in the middle due to unseen highbay damage

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dubs say it's not flying today

>> No.12627110

>>12627097
Landing probability extremely high, crumple probability likely, and tipping over or breaking a weld or something is also high. I think it will touch down but something will go wrong with the legs or the engines will smash the ground or something

>> No.12627113

>>12627099
It's probably not easy enough for MSM to convey the promise (or manufactured controversy) of Starship via headline so they won't bother. And for the better, 2bh.

>> No.12627114

>>12627100
I really doubt the steel was structurally compromised, considering how little it buckled (for steel).
t. in advanced solid mechanics right now

>> No.12627126

Fuck you pussies, Snine will land perfectly and you can screen cap this post.

>> No.12627129

is the 12.5 number from SpaceX or is that just assumed?

>> No.12627141

>>12627129
from people 'in the know'. It was briefly going to be 10 km apparently, but is now back to 12.5.
The launch license they have allows higher flights, but for whatever reason SpaceX isn't going that high.... yet

>> No.12627143

>>12627126
but will snine sneed?

>> No.12627150

did they scrub ?

>> No.12627151

I feel like it's plenty likely to roll dice that the engines will go bang, as they usually do for nearly no reason at all

>> No.12627153

>>12627075
then what, an hour or so for launch preps? Don't remember how long it usually takes

>> No.12627156

>>12627153
1 to 2 hours since the moment they block the road, isn't it?

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crazy these things will be landing on this in the future, probably

>> No.12627177

>>12627168
I want a labpadre camera there too to see how they dismantle the central tower etc.

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Still a lot of people at the pad it seems

>> No.12627200

>>12627190
Makes sense, it's supposed to be clear in 2.5 hours

>> No.12627207

>>12627200
they gotta round up the granola bars and Gatorade and get it to a safe location

>> No.12627218

mods better sticky this thread when they spaceX starts filling the rocket or we'll need to make 200 of them

>> No.12627226

>>12627218
It takes like two days for a page 1 bump limit thread to be archived on sci lol

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>>12627168
can't wait

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>>12627168
Put a couple micro reactors on there and it won't even have to ship in fuel

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>>12627230

>> No.12627253

>>12627243
I can't wait!

>> No.12627262

>>12627243
is it going to taxi back to port every time to load/offload stuff? Or will they just somehow transfer Starship onto another ship to bring it in and leave the platform out there?

>> No.12627273

>>12627262
Probably the latter - although I have no clue how they will move shit to the barge. Maybe hop superheavy from land to the barge? and then hop the upperstage and then mate them? Maybe that's too soience though idk

>> No.12627297

>>12627243
needs a hole in the middle for quick and dirty flame trench

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Not today SN9!

*INHALES*

>> No.12627348

today or not today?

>> No.12627375

>>12627348
winds are looking choppy at the moment >>12627346. They'll have to die down for it to happen today. Tomorrow is much better in the wind department.

>> No.12627418

>>12627375
the winds should die way later in the window however

>> No.12627456

Is this shit going to happen at fucking night? Would be kino if so.

>> No.12627489

>>12627456
not today. if it happens it will be before 6 PM

>> No.12627513

>>12627456
>>12627489
Sunset launch kino please

>> No.12627541

T38 will be present but no WB57. Boo

>> No.12627559

>>12627541
nsf is thinking that the WB57 won't be around this time

>> No.12627566

go home bros
https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1353795253178937345
no launch today

>> No.12627582

no evacuation ---> scrubbed

>> No.12627586

>>12627559
yes that’s what I said

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>>12627586
sorry I can't fucking read

>> No.12627593

>>12627582
>>12627566
fack

>> No.12627603

Isn’t the window open for four more hours?

>> No.12627608

>>12627603
maybe the whole point of today was a mild rehearsal

>> No.12627615

>>12627608
Ah the fabled dry run of the wet rehearsal.

>> No.12627618

>>12627603
the delay today is likely but not 100%. Right now it's based on a boca resident not receiving evac orders (something that must happen before the flight). That's not entirely definitive but regardless the weather is being a bitch so it's probably not going to happen. But who knows if it suddenly clears up SpaceX can certainly change their mind.

>> No.12627622

It's not gonna fly.

>> No.12627629

>>12627622
This is what you get when you prioritize RHETORIC over RESULTS...

>> No.12627633

It's gonna fly despite all odds

>> No.12627638

>>12627618
The wind is supposed to calm down somewhat near the end of the window, but there's little sense rushing things because they still have window tomorrow and the weather should be much better and no mexican smoke

>> No.12627639

>>12627633
yes but not today, tomorrow likely

>> No.12627654

Ran out of TEA-TEB

>> No.12627656

>>12627654
based TEA-TEB autist

>> No.12627678

>>12627639
no faggot shut up

>> No.12627736

TFR cancelled. it's extra scrubbed.
See yall tomorrow

>> No.12627944

I've just arrived. Is it flying today?

>> No.12627974

>>12627944
no

>> No.12627985

>>12627974
Why?

>> No.12627993

>>12627985
wind, maybe

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>>12627985
shit's windy, yo. It's gotten a lot better but this is still bad. They also need low wind to use the booms. Can't remove the flap chains otherwise.

>> No.12628053

>>12627028
these guys really need to learn how a mobile fission plant works. rockets are retro trash. you can study probes to see how they work. you just size it up you silly fuckers.

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>>12627633
TAKE A LOOK AT ME NOW

>> No.12628179

>>12628053
how does having a nuke let you get to space?

>> No.12628187

>>12628053
What connection are you making with rockets and fission?
Are saying an in atmosphere nuclear rocket or something?

>> No.12628308

>>12628096
This is so fucked

>> No.12629543

today is the day, finally

>> No.12629567

>>12629543
for another scrub!

>> No.12629641

>>12627038
NIce graphic

>> No.12629645 [DELETED] 

>>12627070
Trips and it explodes on the pad

>> No.12629667

>>12629645
Get rekt faggot

>> No.12629684

>>12627226
Much less than that, more like 8-12 hours. The lifetime of an /sfg/ thread is mostly determined by the shitposting rate before bump limit, and sometimes by the image limit. It looks like yesterday's went a mere 10 hours. A slow /sfg/ thread lasts about 24 hours.

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>>12628308

>> No.12629955

>we're looking for FAA approval for a flight today - Elon
I KNEW THE FAA WERE BEHIND THIS
STEPHEN MARSHAAAAALLLL

>> No.12629973

>>12629955
uhhhh..sweaty? he said tomorrow

>> No.12629976

>>12629973
didn't he say tomorrow yesterday which means it's today?

>> No.12629978

>>12629976
no, he said it today

>> No.12630001

>>12629978
But maybe it was still his yesterday? It was at like 4am boca local

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>>12630001
>maybe elon meant the opposite of what he said
ok frend

>> No.12630034

>>12630033
maybe he was high off his balls

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>>12630034
maybe......ok u convinced me.
let's cope together

>> No.12630041

>>12627088
It’s gonna hit the ground at least.

>> No.12630050

>>12630041
such is the only certainty, yes

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>>12630033
It's not tomorrow until you go to sleep

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>>12627100
>>12627114
Pic?
Diagonal tension is not a failure. See this B-52 for example.

>> No.12630185

when is this likely? i know it was shifted from yesterday to try again.

>> No.12630194

what is today but yesterday's tomorrow

>> No.12630202

fuck it's really tomorrow
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.12630205

>>12630202
says who

>> No.12630212

>>12630202
Don't use the LabPadre stream for confirmation, they're notorious for not updating their messages in the morning.
But I'm sure it's not going to happen before noon, so I can go out and get muh three-day supply of Tuesday tendies with no worries.

>> No.12630213

>>12630205
Elon on twitter

>> No.12630217

still me >>12630213
unless Elon went to sleep at 3 AM and meant today as tomorrow

>> No.12630224 [DELETED] 

wait he indeed tweeted at 2:37 AM local time
wtf?
it tomorrow today?

>> No.12630225

wait he indeed tweeted at 2:37 AM local time
wtf?
is "tomorrow" today?

>> No.12630266

>>12630225
and Tomorrow is Yesterday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow_Is_Yesterday
(coincidentally this is the 44th anniversary of its first airing... the day before the Apollo 1 disaster)

>> No.12630410

>>12627168
why would you land on something that moves instead of land ?

>> No.12630419

>>12630410
less regulations
no sonic booms to upset the neighbors
save ∆V
less risk to the populace

>> No.12630476

It's not today, I heard wednesday at earliest according to road closures

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>>12630476
>if its not today its tomorrow at earliest

>> No.12630526

boo it actually is tomorrow

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>it's called falcon 9 because it has nine engines on the first stage

>> No.12630551

guys... they're popping SN7.2 right now it seems... it vents!

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>>12630531
Does Johnny five have five robo dicks?

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SNOPS HOP AND POP

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>>12627231
musk seems neg on nuclear-i'm hopeful aneutronic fusion redpills him in the near future. could also allow borderline torchship levels of performance in future rockets assembled in space

>> No.12631297

>>12631160
Is he really though? I've never heard him say anything about it.

>> No.12631352

>>12631160
>>12631297
nah, he's not against nuclear. IIRC he still thinks it's necessary to meet our energy needs for the foreseeable future, since it's a clean alternative to fossil and needs much less land area than wind or solar.
Nuclear will probably be necessary for a really long time until we can develop extremely high efficiency solar cells that are also cheap, if ever.

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Hop WHEN.

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>>12631160
Fusion is a bigger meme energy than solar right now
There's quite a few current nuclear companies that have a good chance of being a success if they were allowed to iterate design as much as starship is being iterated rather than only relying only on simulations for years. Elysium Industries or Thorcon seem like the best fit.

>> No.12631571

>>12631522
I respect fission comaniesl ike these people, Oklo, terrapower, thorcon, but it is a steep uphill battle against black pr. that chernobyl series probably killed nuclear in the west permanently.

fusion was a meme. it's not anymore. I know of at east 3 companies that have transitioned from pure research to industrial pre-production/prototype phase. I genuinely think the kitty hawk moment is 2 years away max.

>> No.12631583

>>12631571
fission is a meme

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>>12627028

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>>12631599
>Musk is going to make Mars a narco planet
Not surprised

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>>12631599
Also crane on the move

>> No.12632282

>>12630225
we already had this conversation

>> No.12632863
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How would one build a boat probe to sail around on Titan's methane lakes?

Solar power is out of the question as Titan receives 1/100 the sunlight Earth does, so the boat would need a nuclear battery as a power source for its screw. I'm unsure what hull materials NASA would peruse that could withstand those extreme temperatures, and a completely different set of buoyancy calculations (Titan's gravity, density of liquid CH4).

I was picturing something about the size of an ordinary fishing canoe on Earth that had single electrically driven screw that can move it at a modest 3 knots, a small mushroom anchor attached to a motorize winch, and for god-tier exploration a small submersible ROV attached to another winch with 100m depth capabilities.

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why the FUCK is it so foggy in boca chica?

>> No.12633750

>>12633155
a lot of it is probably the smoke from slash and burn agriculture

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>>12633155
It's a fog prone area.

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>> No.12633837

>>12633783
>It's a frog prone area
I'm sorry wha-
>fog
Oh.

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ah damn

>> No.12633851

>>12633842
So nothing today either? FAA has more trouble with papers than SpaceX with rockets?

>> No.12633858

I can't believe Biden has banned Starship testing

>> No.12633860

>>12633842
I hate Wendedays, worst day of the week.

>> No.12633866

>>12633831
>MSL

what?

>> No.12633867

>>12632863
Isn't man powered flight possible on Titan? Why would you need a boat?

>> No.12633868

>>12633866
mean sea level

>> No.12633871

>>12633867
because my arms get tired

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>>12633837
>frog

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>>12633872
the strongest!!!

>> No.12634014

>>12633155
The wrath of the gods to those that venture into the heavens.

>> No.12634022

>>12633155
Mexicans

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>>12633858

>> No.12634032

POP when?

>> No.12634055

>>12633860
Nah, Thursdays by far. Maximum tired and still have to face another workday tomorrow.

>> No.12634265

>>12633867

We're nowhere fucking near the point of getting humans to Titan.

Start with robots.

>> No.12634270

>>12627262
They have been talking about flying it back so I wouldn't be surprised if the rig ends up with huge tanks under the fligth deck to refuel for the return flight.

>> No.12634372

launch tomorrow?

>> No.12634403

>>12632863
Without crew there's no need for an open-top boat. Your Titan sea drone should be able to regulate its ballast so that it floats or submerges as need arises. Especially if you're making it canoe-sized.

>> No.12634439

>>12634265
We are nowhere near the point of sending people on mars.

Start with student debt cancellation.

>> No.12634580

>>12634439
>Start with student debt cancellation
start with studying a non meme degree that you can afford and gives some return to the investment

>> No.12634674

>>12634439
>We are nowhere near the point of sending people on mars.

but we are actually

>> No.12634691

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKjetqWn83u/

>> No.12634838

>>12634439
>We are nowhere near the point of sending people on mars
I consider 10 years to be quite near anon

>> No.12635265

>>12634439
>instead of pushing mankind farther let's give free shit to retards

>> No.12635286

OP of next thread is a faggot
>>12635108
>>12635108
>>12635108

>> No.12635308

>>12635286
this is the launch thread tho

>> No.12635354

>>12635308
Aw shit... I've been switching to Firefox, which is too cool to have a window title bar, so I literally can't tell which tab I'm on unless I hover over the tab or scroll back to the top of the page. Fuck them for trying to copy Chrome.
Oh well, at least I bumped the launch thread, just in case it happens tomorrow.

>> No.12636881

So did the FAA get disolved? Can we finally hop?

>> No.12636906

>>12636881
Biden has destroyed them and now nobody's allowed to do anything

>> No.12636922

>>12634439
Why would we give money to graduates? They are the most able to pay it off.

Auto loans would have the best effect.

>> No.12636924

>>12636906
trump is over, you can stop now.

>> No.12636930

>>12636924
I hated the dems long before Trump

>> No.12636931

>>12634439
Love to spend my tax dollars bailing out the future managerial class.

People who earn 30k more than everyone else really need 50k in welfare.

>> No.12636987

what was that space fund that we were talking about earlier?

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>> No.12637168

>>12634439
Bingo.

>>12634580
>non meme degree
Nothing will put an end to meme degrees like breaking the guaranteed student loan system. That's why meme degrees exist.

>>12636931
For every black women's studies major who goes into HR there's five white girls working at Starbucks or not working at all.
The system will make those people managers anyway. We may as well destroy the indentured servitude that supports it.

>> No.12637396

we should make a new thread... this one is stalled since the 25th

>> No.12637474

>>12637396
that's the plan at window open

>> No.12637496

Hop fucking when I have to work can't keep watch on the stream.

>> No.12637516
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Flappy

>> No.12637520

Is there some sort of alert I can set up for when they make some moves? Goddam

>> No.12637530

>>12637520
Next spaceflight app can give you notifications
Though it's not confirmed look for spacex stream

>> No.12637534

wait does the FTS actually consist of C4 charges or it's just a LabPadre meme?

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>>12637516
No boomers today hopefully

>> No.12637539

I hope SN9 flies today. It would be a pretty great birthday gift.

>> No.12637540

>>12637537
lmao like I don't give a fuck if my car is struck by shrapnels from an exploding rocket

>> No.12637544

>>12637520
Subscribe and setup notification from SpaceX offcial youtube channel.

>> No.12637547

>>12637544
pretty useless though, as you receive the stream alert like 5 minutes before launch

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>>12637539

>> No.12637585

>>12637547
SpaceX usually starts live streams for test runs like this 5-10 minutes before T-0.

Actual Falcon9 launches for paying customers get the 20+ minute webshow before T-0

>> No.12637593

Aight boys, we going fishing at the rio grande today?

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>>12627088
Thanks Hitler, now it will successfully land.

>> No.12637602

>>12627088
checked HH
>>12627099
checked 2
>>12627100
you don't exist... SHHHH

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>>12627088

>> No.12637607

so new thread or nah? stream links etc in the OP are dead.
up to you guys

>> No.12637611

>>12637607
Go for it

>> No.12637619

>>12637607
you are go for staging.

>> No.12637620

>>12637619
>>12637611
aight one min

>> No.12637702

oof an anon beat me to it but it's exactly what I would have done so here ya go
>>12637692

>> No.12637706

>>12637702
that's me, oof didn't read you were already baking another one, my bad

>> No.12637955

I'm guessing that today's activity is just a show to put pressure on the FAA. Prob not going to fly.

>> No.12638806

>>12637396
no

>> No.12639623 [DELETED] 

30 seconds!