/sci/ - Science & Math

>NASA is now just a gayer version of NOAA

Did they ever figure out/release details on what caused the SLS green run to fail?

We need to add Jim to the starship barrel.

>>12609651
Don't forget:
>diversity hires
>climate change (((research)))
>more LEO diddling instead of actual space progress
Let's hope Elon's starship program succeeds, it's a light in a dark ass cave.

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>>12609646
You guys are so fucking stupid. Reported.

REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER


WE ARE NEVER GOING TO SPACE, ELON MUSK IS A FUCKING WATERMELON TRUMPDRUMPF TARD JOE BIDEN WON GHET OVER IT FUCKER

>>12609661
>>climate change (((research)))
And exactly wtf do they expect to achieve from this?
>We're now twelvety billion percent sure that white middle class people are the cause of all the world's problems and must be exterminated, instead of only eleventy billion!

>>12609669
>This post is extremely low quality
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>12609678
try again, drumpftard.

>>12609669
>>12609681
>trump
elon isn't a trump supporter
they have wildly different views on things
elon appreciates trump's support for spaceflight
but the similarities end there

>>12609669
stfu nigger and leave this board

>>12609689
Don't reply to it anon, just report it.

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>>12609689
ELON MUSK IS GONNA TAKE ME TO MARS AND IM GONNA GET A MARS GF EVEN THO IM A LOSER ON EART YEE ELON MUSK IS SO SMART HE GOT A PHD AT 2 YEARS OLD

>this thread
what no hop will do to a mf

>Like Elon
>Like Joe
All smiles here space bros. The gears of space industrialization already started turning with Obama, and china made sure it won't stop. Anyone who thinks USA is going to stop trying to dominate space, or even worse thinks USA will try and stifle SpaceX is delusional, and probably believes the elections was stolen.

>>12609699
since when did lefties start using the basedjack

>shitpost a whole bunch
>get banned for it
>"haha I did it reddit!"
>reset router and go back at it
Get a real hobby

>>12609608
I don't know of any failures because of launch clamps as such. Mercury-Redstone 1 failed because they fucked up the grounding wire to the pad, which caused engine shutdown and set off the launch abort rocket when it just got off the pad. Launch sequence obviously caused tons of failures, both Shuttles, Atlas balloon tanks popping.

>>12609720
im an ancap anarchifascism monarchist eco malthusian nordic supermacist right accelerationist hyperborean trad eugenic neo poopoo poooooo

>>12609719
propellant is stored in the balls

>>12609723
damn that abort tower really hauled some ass

>>12609723
Also, it's a wonder no Ariane 1-4 failed due to it bombarding itself with isolation panels during launch

>>12609719
this there will be a space race

>>12609652
Boing claims the pre-programmed parameters that they expected the engines to run at were too low, and because they "over performed" the system did a self-shutdown.
They further claim the MCF had triggered about 15 seconds into firing, and that is really wasn't a failure and the error triggered for an unknown reason.
Honestly, I think they bullshitting, with the specific problematic engine shooting out molten bits at shutdown. They are trying hard to cover their asses.

When is the next /hop/ expected?

>>12609731
Please tell us more, anon.

>>12609732
>there will be a space race
people have been trying to meme a second space race between china and the usa since the mid 2000's

>>12609737
The real space race is between NASA and SpaceX, and SpaceX is winning easily.

Nobody else is even in the running.

big gril

>>12609734
Seems like they're trying really hard to obfuscate the fact. Even "overperforming" outside expected parameters is failing.

next week?

>>12609751

>>12609747
>Even "overperforming" outside expected parameters is failing.
it's just a bullshit way of saying "pressure/temperature/something was too high"

>>12609731
See >>12609736
Looks like a bunch of clipped parts just exploded.

what's up with all these smoothbrains downplaying the Chinese?
they went from Africa-tier hellhole to having bigger GDP than US and Russia put together in like 50 years

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>SPACE-SHIPS!

reminder that the Reliant Shuttle has more flight time than SLS

>>12609765
Wan Hu has more flight time

>>12609765
I could jump off my roof and I'd have more flight time than SLS. Lower chance of killing astronauts too unless there was one right under me.

>Wojack poster got slapped
heeheehehehhee

>>12609788
Don't bother acknowledging that faggot, it only encourages him.

>>12609734
Idk, I recall the SSME always shooting molten shit out on shutdown, I think that's supposed to happen. At any rate a sensor malfunction was my guess so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

>>12609754
>never ever

Would you rather fly on the first SLS launch or fuck Krystal?

>>12609803
The former

Have we finally caught up to what the paperclip nazis were doing in the 50s?

Reminder that China’s Falcon 9 clone isn’t slated to fly in reusable mode until 2023. Also the Long March 9 has been “75% complete” since 2015. It’s as bad as SLS.

Ok my little nerdles, how are we doing today? texas tank watcher friends? ^_^

teehee

>>12609787
No it isn't, you fucking goon. Currently, nations are barred from claiming territory in space, but individuals are not restricted by the Outer Space Treaty.
Also international law is a joke.

>>12609803
Fly on SLS hands down

>>12609826

>Biden cancels Artemis
>Turns NASA into climate science only
>Climate sattelites are exclusively launched by SpaceX
>Now Congress is funding SpaceX
>Get to Mars faster

What happened to the /sfg/ I knew and loved?

>>12609826

>>12609823
Kek
>>12609814
I think we've always been ahead of them. Honestly, in the alternate timeline where WW2 was won by Germany, I don't think those scientists would have been able to get to the Moon had they tried and had been given an unlimited budget. Germans when left to their own accounts seem to overenginner everything and fuck shit up. The strength of project paperclip was that they got to work with American scientists and engineers, who probably gave lots of insight on how not to fuck up a rocket

>>12609837
What's wrong with it now

>>12609725
Jej

>>12609836
>Biden cancels Artemis
>ESA sends Orion to the Moon on top of Ariane 6 as the first EUROPEAN Moon mission.

>>12609851
More like
>ESA sends Orion's "European Service Module™" to the Moon on top of Ariane 6

>>12609836
SpaceX doesn't need money 2bh. I don't think Starship development could happen any faster than it's happening now.

>>12609864
Well. Assuming they didn't need FAA clearance and they could fire whenever they pleased, would we be ahead by now? Or do they get all the clearance they need

Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.

>>12609867
doubt FAA clearances are a bottleneck.

>>12609841
It's like the opposite of that though. All the purely American designed rockets were the overenginnered shit heaps that blew up on the pad and the german lead teams wound making rockets that actually worked.

>>12609867
The FAA has not really been a problem for clearing tests. In fact, I'd go as far to say they've been unusually cooperative. I suspect Musk has a man on the inside.

trips and sn9 explodes and starship program gets cancelled

>>12609837
Furries, redditors and other assorted human detritus started showing up and pushing their gay shit into the threads.

>>12609881
I think a better way of putting it is "we needed eachother". We couldn't have done shit without them, and they needed our budget and input. Also I am very thankful we snatched them up and they didn't go to Russia

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>>12609888
THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

CAN'T SEE SHIT CAPTAIN

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>>12609731
China does the same thing on its rockets. Quite festive, like throwing confetti.

>”Actually, we can load SLS 22 times!”
Are they lying now?

>>12609741
How is nasa even comparable to the chinks?

It’s spacex vs chink rockets.

>>12609851
that would be a GREAT outcome, considering Ariane 5 was originally designed for crewed missions (Hermes).

>>12609927
>Are they lying now?
Have they ever not been?

>>12609927
Who said this?

tfw you will never get an interview with elon because he knows his time is better spent building rockets (or hanging out with joe rogan)

>>12609927
they're probably better that they never reach 9. As long as they never reach the true number they can lie about it.

>>12609927
My source, btw. Berger just sent a tweet about it
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2021/01/21/green-run-update-hot-fire-met-many-objectives-test-assessment-underway/

>>12609945
New Boing CEO Richard Shelby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGi2Nt-GTF4

>>12609949
Having a limit is still dumb but that’s better than only having 9 tries.

>>12609977
cringe

>>12609841
If this were true then your space industry would not have killed itself the moment Von Braun and his men died or left.

I doubt he was pleased to hear that you burgers were going to stop going to moon and not even bother going to Mars and instead waste your efforts on creating a pointless shuttle.

>>12609826
You will never be a woman.

>>12609922
Diamant did it best

>>12609984
No u

>>12609977
I like her
>>12609984
gay

>>12609984

>>12609994
Good Lord, it's shedding its winter coat

>>12609984
fag

>>12609994
https://youtu.be/flu2FX-7050?t=650
Pretty cool how it demonstrates that ALL of a rocket engines thrust is straight down, even scraps you'd expect to be blown around aren't effected till they get right beneath the rocket.

>>12610025
Holy shit

>>12609977
Well shit, that got me. I hadn't cried even yesterday, but that got me.

>>12609994
>>12610025
This is the first time I've seen this rocket.
Why does it shed? Those panels must serve some purpose but I'm at a loss trying to guess what that is.

>>12609836
why would biden cancel obama's baby?

>>12610048
Not that anon but I also like this song by her too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaLe1ZZ97S0
and a more cheery rec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH8lvwXx_Y8

>>12610055
Holy shit look at Bolden sulking in the back.
>this sucks
>why can't we build rockets like this
>I wish I was managing a kerolox 3STO Saturn VI SLS instead of shuttlestack
>my feet hurt
>if only you knew how easy it could be in rocketry

>>12610055
Obama admin hated SLS, it was only signed as compromise to allowing Comercial Crew to pass

>>12610055
>Both their belts perfectly match their shoes
Based

>>12610064
Banned from Argo is one of the best pieces of Trek fan work.

>>12610070
wtf I love Obama now

>>12610050
Thermal blankets. The Diamant is a pretty interesting rocket. It was the first satellite launcher not built by the US or USSR. It also used turpentine as fuel for it's first stage

>>12610025
Anything not getting pushed straight down is a loss of efficiency

>>12610085
>turpentine
No way, that sounds insane. I'm going to have to read up on this thing.

>>12609836
Biden won't cancel Artemis without pissing both Europe and Japan, which is the polar opposite of what he wants to achieve.

>>12610070
main exponent of SLS has been Shelby,who is a R.

I get that there's some obnoxious noise from the fringe of the D's that agitates against human expansion into space and acts like Musk is a literal babyeater while ignoring fossil fuel executives that do things millins of times worse than making politically incorrect tweets,but the current D leadership likes space-it has that JFK mystique to it. The emphasis on climate is not a bad thing either-more climate satellites mean more potential contracts for SpaceX. We may also see fresh rounds of grants and subsidies for solar power and storage, which will flood elon with even more cash.

I am optimistic.

>>12610085
also first launch vehicle that wasn't a modified ICBM

>>12610099
The worst that could happen is less emphasis on human exploration. There will still be emphasis against cost plus and for fixed price whatever happens. The gooberment cant seem to get enough

So I've slept through three SN9 scrubs. Anything else? Two threads mostly filled with offtopic is a lot to go through.

>>12610112
wait
that's not true whatsoever

>>12610085
>>12610091
Imagine the smell.

>>12610099
also better understanding the climate on earth will help to understand the climate on mars too in the future. especially if we want to terraform someday.

>>12610001
Do you have more PTE macros? Looking to expand my collection.

>>12610094
Not to mention that both JAXA and ESA have the means to replace US manned spacecraft with the design of their own.

>>12610156
sure
I'll dump my entire collection if you want

1

>>12610124
Really want to see a state/private company build a moon base and just focus on that. Operating a completely closed cycle system successfully would have tremendous applications on Earth and Mars.

>>12610178
2

alright
that's my entire collection

Will starship ever make it to orbit?
>entire enterprise revolves around "gravetee", a dodgy concept that was never even taken seriously to begin with
>its made of fucking metal, which is heavier than carbon fiber, and therefore stupid
>is being funded by an autistic weeb
>is not Long March-5
>is not New Glenn
>is not SLS
I don't think it'll accomplish much other than cool on-landing explosions

So what happens to old Space when 50 US military officers go to the moon or low orbit for what ever with one flight?

>>12610114
You think that's the worst that could happen? Centroids and apoliticoids coping hard right now.

>>12610182
Woah, that's really impressive collection, anon. Thanks for sharing!

>>12610195
no problem
glad to be of help

>>12610193
every climate sat is a spacex launch contract

>>12610180
this
we need a new biosphere experiment with all our modern knowledge and technology so that stupid hippies and boomers can't claim it was impossible anymore

So mechanical counterpressure suits seem like a dead end right now. But what about powered exoskeletons? Is the tech far along enough that you could design a powered exoskeleton and work to build pressurized pieces around it? Basically making a mobile space hab that could allow you to lift a fuck ton and walk miles with ease?

>>12610183
>I don't think it'll accomplish much other than cool on-landing explosions
so what? a timeline with cool explosions every other month is still a better timeline than one without

>>12610203

>>12610193
My take is that Biden will want to keep Artemis and human missions going due to the prestige and associations with the Obama administration. Everyone knew putting humans on the moon by 2024 was borderline impossible, but given the ongoing work on spacesuits and the Gateway I doubt it will be cancelled outright.

>>12609761
Because Russia went from a literal 19th-century indentured shithole to a Totalitarian regime with more Nuclear weapons than anyone else (for a time) in even less time. Woohoo... Doesn't matter if your economy implodes. If you had even an ounce of macro economic understanding you'd see the Chinese economy is perilously delicate despite what the low IQ drivel that frequents this website would have you believe.

>>12610217
Um sweaty? Artemis is a drumpf program.

>>12610217
You might be right but remember Constellation launched a rocket and still got shorted

>>12610156
Cool pic but those missiles need like 8 km/s of delta v to slow down and hit an exact target

>>12610224
Biden will not cancel Artemis. Deal with it.
He can't, and won't.

>>12610224
sweetie

>>12610217
There is a very good chance of Artemis getting junked, just look at how hard they are taking the axe to everything even remotely related to trump, let alone Artemis which was conceived solely under his administration and shilled hard by him.

>>12610124
The more relevant (and marketable, for the lack of better word) research is actually the other way around. Studying the history of another planet that shares similar roots but followed a different path of evolution can give us a completely new point of view on planetary climate mechanisms and advance the understanding of how our own planet works much farther than hundreds of years of passive Earth observation. Of course this will also require extensive exploration of the whole planet, something a measly rover once every couple of years cannot possibly hope to ever complete.

>>12610235
>He can't, and won't.
Just because he can't cancel Orion and SLS doesn't mean he can't scrap the Artemis program and just have the focus be on Gateway or some shit

>>12610248
>We have decided to make gateway a manned earth orbiting climate research station and will be using Orion to take our astronauts there

>>12610252
Just drop me James, fuck this gay Earth

>>12610235
>Can't

Absolutely fucking cam

>>12610220
yeah, China is a giant on clay legs
full of political turmoil as well - army is patrolling the streets, police is gunning down protesters, militias are ransacking public buildings, talks of civil war...

>>12610224
It is not and is not perceived as such. You are echoing a left-wing strawman position that doesn't even exist.

>>12610262
Do you defend China for free or do they pay you?

>>12610262
>militias are ransacking public buildings


They are?

>>12610260
Absolutely fucking won't.

>>12610266
Ok bro go ahead and ignore half a century of literally exactly what I have just said happening every single time the regime changes.

>>12610271
>t. Opinion based in delusional and not historical and current reality

>>12610224
Umm, retard. Artemis is a INTERNATIONAL program.

China's aggressive push into space and russia's recent pursuit of near term nuclear space propulsion are incredibly good news. Space Race jingoism can help us achieve our goals.

>>12610276
Don’t even bother he’s either a shit poster or a redditor

>>12610243
i agree completely
but launching earth observation satellites is much cheaper and sending tons of probes to other planets would be very hard to justify under the pretext of studying earth climate

>>12610282
Russia won’t do shit though so it’s all hot air from them. China’s manned space capabilities are also shit right now

>>12610276
Trump didn't cancel artemis when he came in, but you think Obama's best friend will butcher his beloved space program?

>>12610268
10 RMB/post
very lucrative
Russian troll farms are a joke - you can hardly make a living with what they paid me

>>12610293
Trump made Artemis you retard

>>12610293
Trump didn't cancel Artemis because it didn't exist until he made it, anon

>>12610293
>Trump didn't cancel artemis when he came in
But he did cancel Obama's Asteroid Redirect Mission

>>12609675
Lies need to be maintained, else the Truth disperse them.

>>12610278
Biden want to improve the relationship with Europe and other US allies. He won't improve shit by tearing appart the Artemis Accords, and stabbing them all in the back.

>>12610310
Bruh most Euros nations (all probably) don’t give a shit about Artemis. They won’t care if it’s cancelled

>>12610268
>>12610269
the (obvious) joke being that those are all things happening in the US, you autistic fucks.

Seething faggot general (every time)

>>12610310
>He won't improve shit by tearing appart the Artemis Accords
Wrong, the Artemis Accords were strong armed on foreign countries saying "sign this or the US will stop involving you in its space program." It's exactly the kind of Trumpian usage of US leverage that he would want to walk back and come to a more "inclusive" and "equitable" resolution for (ie involve the UN and Russia and China).

>>12610299
>>12610306
Yeah I fucked up and got Commercial Crew and Artemis mixed up.

I stand by the spirit of what I said though-Trump didn't fuck with Commercial Crew and I think Biden will avoid fucking with Artemis.

>>12610315
Yeah they signed the accords with their eyes closed. they don't even know they're in it

Road closures has begun, another static fire test today.

>>12610338
Commercial Crew wasn't Obama's flagship manned space program. That was ARM and it bit the dust just like Constellation did before it

>>12610156
God I wish that were me

>>12610310
>>12610315
>>12610339
Most Euro countries aren't even in the Artemis Accords

>>12610357
>Artemis Accords
complete meme

>>12610363
Cool name though

>>12610207
As usual with exoskeletons, power is the problem.

>>12609661
>LEO diddling
please tell me they're not trying to abandon Artemis

>>12610337
uh oh...seething eurobro...

>>12610357
ESA is most of the European countries. And ESA do fucking care, because they already built half of the ISS, they are building modules for the Gateway, they made service modules for Orion, and they will have to revive their manned space program, again.

>>12610390
I'm American and it's delusional to categorize the Artemis Accords as anything other than the US swinging its dick around and forcing its partners to choose between us or China and accept that we establish the terms otherwise they won't be invited to our moon base.

you guys think they're going to make it?

>>12610397
ESA isn't in the Artemis Accords

>>12610399
delusional posting is my favorote sfg meme

>>12610114
wrong

>>12610399
Why would the US not be the dominant partner in the relationship, they have no manned lunar capability even planned. If they didn't want to join they would not have.

>>12610399
Ironically the the Accords' traffic control rules for lunar outposts means you could de-facto land a bunch of manned-capable starships within a few km of each other, call it an outpost complex, and have free run to keep anyone out of the area you wanted.
>Space Claim Jumping

>>12610400
Maybe, but their chances drop a lot if their first launch slips another few months and/or the first launch fails. The pressure is on for smallsat launch startups to start delivering.

>>12610400
I think they have a good shot, their moon lander is cool and they have more payload than most other companies.

Biden will be a good president for space, better than Trump. Democrats were always more in favor of commercial space because it's cheaper

>>12610406
was for >>12610315

>>12610432
Lori Graver fought hard for commercial crew, but the trumpians in here like to memory hole that and focus on woman-hating and climate science hating

>>12610406
Enough of the member countries are involved in the Artemis program thanks to the Service Module that it's a moot point.

>>12609894
>we traded the stars for this

>>12610432
Probably correct, most of the bellyaching now is just people projecting bad things on the future cause their preferred candidate lost. We should continue on our current trajectory as it stands right now.

>>12610446
DO YOU WANT THE BANANA
you bring me years back

>>12610423
Getting the US out of bad deals that were negotiated without the perspective of the huge amount of power the US holds was the fundamental promise of the Trump presidency and returning to a focus on comfort and cooperation is the fundamental promise of the Biden presidency.

>>12610448
>>12610432
Delusional and Reddit tier cope

>>12610448
Current trajectory is insufficient, acceleration is necessary. Trump actively pushed productive new space policy, he didn't just stay the course with what was there already. Will Biden's handlers do the same? We don't know yet.
Trump's approach to space was also mildly imperialist and antagonistic to China, both good things that I think the Biden admin lacks.

>>12610465
To continue, even more fundamental that this is the European ideal of "dignity". The US Constitution does not even contain the word "dignity"—US citizens do not have a right to dignity like German citizens do and the US in general doesn't respect the European principle of a guaranteed dignified existence. All democrats want is the European constitutional mandate that all humans have a right to a dignified existence which entails an equitable sharing of power. Republicans maintain that the constitution's stance of all humans have the right to autonomy (therefore the choice to live a dignified existence) is the proper one.
You will see a democratic government negotiate in this way because they fundamentally believe that the dignity of the other party must be maintained. The US will not force the hand of a friendly foreign government and will seek to elevate them to equitable partners in any arrangement.

>>12610470
Dont be such a middle schooler

>>12610475
Of course it does, but as it stands right now neither party has the decisive advantage in congress to make sweeping allocations of money and policy changes. Trump did push for more funds just like every other POTUS, he was lucky in that he got to oversee the completion of commercial crew and maturation of reusable rockets. Just how Obama was lucky in that he got to kill the space shuttle thanks to work Bush had put in earlier. I would prefer there to be acceleration, but I'm just not sure the votes are there to free up the money needed to do it. Not due to the fault of Biden, just due to the status quo nature of congress.

Is anythin happening today

>>12610498
lmao no

>>12610496
Enjoy seeing the new cabinet take the broom to everything trump touched

>>12610516
kinda like how trump sweeped away that 5 year lobbying ban on his way out the door?

>>12610308
I thought it was still going on? Isn’t it called DART or something I think spacex has a mission like that for a future launch on their wiki.

>>12610520
Strawman assembled and destroyed

>>12610498
Abort.

>>12610520
That doesn't invalidate what anon said though.

>>12610516
That's a hood thing, Trump was toxic

>>12609646
I WANT LE HOPPERINO
STOP WITH DELAYS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Biden is the new JFK. Look out for the white swallow. Trust the plan.

Sicut superius et inferius

>>12609646
>We are excited about the opportunities that await us –the Perseverance Mars landing; the next Launch America mission; our focus on the study of our home planet; and returning American astronauts to the surface of the Moon, and then on to Mars. All of this, and so much more, will be accomplished with the incredible team of civil servants, contractors, and partners we call the NASA family.

>DIDN'T NAME ARTEMIS
>DIDN'T NAME ARTEMIS
>DIDN'T NAME ARTEMIS
>DIDN'T NAME ARTEMIS

fuuuuuuuuuuck

>>12610498
Probably gonna fap to Krystal today

>>12610522
>I thought it was still going on?
ARM was a mission to pick up a boulder from an asteroid, have it enter orbit around the Moon, then send astronauts on an SLS to go examine it. Any future missions that involve moving or impacting asteroids have no relation

>>12610566
>and returning American astronauts to the surface of the Moon
Without Artemis that's done how exactly?

>>12610579
Really big pogo sticks.

>>12610579
It's a just a nebulous long term goal like the Mars landing. It doesn't need a program

>>12610579
They might remain it, but Artemis is kino for being sister of Apollo and the focus on putting the first woman on the Moon

You can't just rename something so perfectly thought out and symbolic just out spite to Trump, fuck

>>12610579
We're going to be developing a new lunar architecture with our most trusted contractor, Boeing :^)

>>12610566
You guys know that even Nancy Pelosi loves the Artemis program, right? She told Jim herself

>>12610587
>You can't just rename something so perfectly thought out and symbolic just out spite to Trump, fuck

Watch them

>>12610588
Democrats that love boeing have already lost their seats

if they actually static fire today it's going to be kino

>>12610587
>They might remain it,
rename*

>>12610588
>Boeing LSL and Boeing LLS

>>12610597
oh shit, I'm gonna tune in now, thanks

kino weather

/strawman fanatic general/, every time

Japanese astronaut will land on the Moon before a Chink, even if he had to crashland there in HTV.

>>12610633
Ummm.....no. US will partner with China to send chinks to the moon. tarriffs removed so free enterprise can prosper yet again.

>>12610587
>>You can't just rename something so perfectly thought out and symbolic just out spite to Trump, fuck
Spite for Trump is literally the only reason they bothered running a candidate this cycle.

>>12610640
Biden cant do anything bc he stole the election. Trump might have some other paths

>>12610536
>Toxic
reddit, now

>>12610657
What? Was Biden not inaugurated?

>>12610657
>Here's how trump can still win

>>12610675
It was actually Trump in a Biden mask. "Trump" going back to FL was actually the military tribunal taking Biden (in a Trump mask) to Guantanamo.
>4 more years!

>>12610189
My god those are some huge lobster chunks in there.

>>12610591
A politician saying they love something doesn’t really mean much, if they take it’s funding, replace it’s staff with diversity hires and refuse to reform the current extremely inefficient methods.

watching SFG fog stream
>we cant just not talk for 90min
actually yes, faggots, you absolutely can STFU for that amount of time

>>12610400
I think they will. Unlike other companies they actually have ambitions beyond being a smallsat launcher.

>>12610636
>US will partner with China
CHINESE VIRUS

>>12610705
>joint lunar base established
>*cough cough*

VONTING

>It's an anon-forgot-to-take-his-meds-episode
At least design a dangerous rocket engine to keep on topic.

>>12610685
I actually can't tell if this is serious or not
>>12610713
how the fuck can you tell?

OOOOOOO IM GONNA VOOOOOOOOONT

>>12610713
Oh it's venting alright
Venting so much in fact that it has covered the entire area of Boca Chica

>>12610713
So how many scrubs today? Or will they say "fuck it" and continue testing when some retard sneaks in under all this fog?

SOLID HELIUM QUARK-GLUON CATALYZED GAMMA JET BOOSTERS

>>12610566
>the Moon, and then on to Mars.
brainleted again

>>12610732
*GAMMA KNIFE BOOSTERS

texas fag watchers general haha

>>12610754
i mean fog LMAO

>>12610498
Too foggy to tell

>>12610754
always have been

By the way, did they catch the fairings from the previous Falcon launch?

>>12610767
it says groumd vent dumb ass

>>12610778
That's fog

>>12610775
it was gonna be a water catch, probably?

>>12610781
number two, that's terror

>>12610789
do you have a single fact to back that up

>>12610782
Oh, right. Shame. They're not giving up on catching, are they? Water recovery is lame.

>farm venting
how the fuck can they tell?

>launch pad right now

Something is venting around SN9

someone send NSF a $1000 superchat to shut up for the rest of the stream

>>12610822
lab cam?

>>12610828
nice try chris b

>>12610822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72Au8Px7mM&t=0s
Camera where you can see SN9

>>12610822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72Au8Px7mM

Fog, DEPART

SN9 IS VENTING, GET IN BROS

>through the thick fog
>a light emerges
>BRAAAAP
>the fog crawler yells and spews fire

omgomgoMG OMG VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONT o_O

>can't see engines from pad cam
So how will they know when Engine Chill happens? Will it show on the predator cam or what?

>>12610675
Unironically it was a pre-recorded video, which means it was recorded before noon on the 20th, which makes it illegitimate.
>sunshine in the video
>overcast in DC on the 20th

SIREN

If it SF's successfully today does that mean hop NET tomorrow?

wtf is with the discord sounds CHRIST STOP

>>12610868
That’s like “F9 booster landings are faked” tier copium

>>12610875
F9 booster videos have matching weather.

the fuck is the drama between NSF and labpadre about? you never hear one mentioned on the other yet with tim dodd he talks about both.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

God the NSF autists are hard to listen to. Get the fucking marbles out of your mouth

Daily scrub soon

/static fire general/

every time

>>12610675
>>12610868
Can you faggots fuck off from the spaceflight thread to designated shitposting boards so we can discuss a spaceflight-related activity unfolding live?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72Au8Px7mM
best stream

>>12610884
Kek, right before the SN8 flight I got yelled at by everyone for saying "wtf" in the padre chat. Literally typed those three letters and they were like REEEEE NOOOOOOOOO THAT'S AN ABBREVIATION FOR A CUSS WORD.
Then the actual labpadre guy showed up on the audio baked as fuck and started talking about "those bastards" who violate the range protocols and stuff lmao.

lab cam super comfy ambient venting sounds, fog, quiet and peaceful. no marbles on mouths lol

>>12610869
NSF says you can see the outline of the starship and the tanks from this screenshot.

Can you see it? /sfg/?

>>12610901
shouldnt have cussed retard

TRI VENT

>>12610881
competing for views and money. what else? just exacerbated today due to fog fucking up nsf's livestream but not one of lab's cams so nsf's mods got butthurt and started censoring all mention of labpadre in chat.

Fucking finally

STATIC FIRE

Holy fuck that was loud, also can they SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR TWO SECONDS

absolute braplet

Extremely short static fire.

SCROOOOONCH

FUCK YEAR

static fire!

AHHHHH I'M THROOOOSTING

Raptors scuffed again

Starship proven to be a scam, Musk is a fraud

That's it?

>>12610912
*Fart

lmfao i stood up to get a drink for 10sec and i missed it!!!!

Nerdle looked pretty

wtf was that

AND ANOTHER ONE

Are they going to do multiple static fires again?

SNINE YES

>>12610915
Extremely startling, though. With the ambiance it was really easy to tell that this is a bloody explosion, just a controlled one.

STATIC SPARK

Definitely an aborted fire.

If you think they're gonna do another static fire, you're delusional

>>12610938

How the fuck do you abort a fucking static fire

they really fucked up this test bros....just got off the phone with miguel g.

BOOM BABY
I saw it on the pad cam first, and my nerdle cam was a few seconds behind, so I was ready to watch it again lol

>>12610934
May need more test since it looks extremely short. May possibly be an early abort.

inb4 engine blew up

>>12610946
kek

>no commentary from Lab until after the test
very nice

>>12610944
Only start one of them others abort and burp methane

>>12610942
Anon wants to be proven wrong again

>>12610954
steve_1989.jpg

>>12610946
lmfao

>>12610954
love the stream, nice and comfy with the explanation

>>12610954
extremely based yep. im converted, no more NSF streams for me

So is the flight still NET monday or will they accelerate the schedule?

spacex is finnish

>>12610921
Gtfo Jeff

>>12610962
I saw someone say in chat that NSF is not allowing talk mentions of LabPadre in their stream. Buttfrustration?

>>12610954
Their hop/launch streams were always nice with the old dude

>>12610972
NSF is a paypig ranch

>>12610972
i think someone was talking about the lab padre stream then members mode was turned on

>>12610963
they're gonna do 5 more static fires just in case and if raptors survive they will attempt flight on the 27th

>>12610972
They are quite sensitive against other starship streamers
Try to get them to say theirs names without them knowing

>>12610954
No just like shut the fuck up faggots, they're already sperging nonstop on nerdle cam, no need to bring this retarded faggotry to the only camera with sound worth listening to

>>12610979
more like everyone was except the pigs

>>12610979
change it from top chat to all chat

>>12610990
my bad anon thanks for noticing

>>12610979
>someone
They deleted like half the chat before switching to members only

So was the static fire a failure, or just extremely short on purpose to not destroy more Raptors with backblast?

>>12611000
nsf have a diaper rash, cut em some slack

kek

>>12611007
maybe it was a preburner test

>>12611015
brap

>>12611015
wow....embarrassing

Anon who shared the virgin stream a few days ago here. We heard from our satellite finally yesterday, so deployment was successful!

Remember when NSF used to be quiet and comfy without all these rent seeking shitty commentators?

>>12611024
pog dude

>>12610946
AHAHA

>>12611024
congrats on your sat dude. thanks for sharing the stream

>>12611024
Whats your sat do?

>>12611026
some people gave them money thinking it was REALLY nasa

>>12611024
based and smallsatpilled

>>12611024
Noice

Wtf i thought dolphin sex was a meme but it's actually the best design i tried out?

>>12611007
it was a complete disaster, all raptors lost... sold all my Tesla stock already

Musk is finished...

By the way, what the fuck is that trebuchet (?) thing near the lab's tower?

>>12611044
dolphin sex would have worked

>>12611024
Chad Virgin deployer vs. Virgin ESA Spaniard

Wow really embarrassing NSF stream today. Here fags, watch this fog for two hours, dont forget to donate. Extremely unprofessional, nipples portruding

>>12611044
Few things can beat dolphin sex

>>12611044
dolphin sex is not a meme, it's basically how you'd do Starship with Superheavy glideback if VTVL wasn't practical

>>12611046
it's a trebuchet

>>12611024
You did a do!

>>12611052
Very, very disrespectful. Many such cases!

>be Falcon 9
>1 static fire for 9 engines
>be Starship
>5 static fires and counting for 3 engines
raptor reliability really showing bros

>>12611055
>we couldve gotten this instead of the shittle
it hurts bros

>>12611046
In case they need to lay siege to something.

So what happens if the SLS kills test pilots?

>>12611067
Boeing gets payed

>>12611062
Merlin is almost 2 decades old as a design
Raptor has been under serious development for about 4 years

>>12611037
It studies early planetary formation. I was a lead engineer on the project.

>"I am donating $100M toward a prize for best carbon capture technology" - Elon Musk
Well /sfg/ bros, let's get to work

>>12611072
So is it like a telescope looking at currently forming solar systems?
Don't you need something bigger than a smallsat than that?

>>12611057
>>12611064
The latest development in 4ass orbital launch systems?

>>12611015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpqoqJxbNpw

would you mind webming lab cam too? It had a really good shot.
Yeah though. I've heard people saying that 2 fired and then the third aborted just before ignition, hence the preburner test-ish fire.

I wonder if the issue is a fluid dynamics problem outside of the engines. That all 3 drawing is causing some pressure fuckery. They maybe should set up a 3 engine raptor stand at mcgregor

>>12611075
no, stoner boomer surfer asshole launch system

Alright bros, todays my birthday, wishing you all get to live to see Musk BTFO oldspace and land on Mars. Also, hop today?

>>12609646
sorry *pant* I'm *pant* late *ignition*

>>12611063
>The UKSA will never have this
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>12611046
>what the fuck is that trebuchet (?)
>>12611057
They've fucking had it with boats encroaching on the launches. The next one that does is getting a steel coil right through the wheel house.

>>12611075
Yes

>>12611080
Happy birthday ESL bro

>>12611073
>launch a giant sunshade
>block out the sun entirely
>atmosphere freezes
>shovel the co2 away
>also solves all other human problems
where's my 100m?

>>12611072
DELTE DIS before VG corporate security hunts you down.

>>12611084
based and competitionpilled

>>12611073
>>12611084
We unironically have the ability to throw something together for a proposal next week guys

>>12611085
>They've fucking had it with boats encroaching on the launches. The next one that does is getting a steel coil right through the wheel house.
I will now vote for Elon as the president of Earth.

>>12611024
congrats

>>12611073
Wild idea here. Plant some fucking trees

/SFG/ Carbon Capture Plan
Nickname: "Blue New Deal"
Plan: tear down SLS facilities and plant trees there
$100M acquired

>>12611084
He knows that his "wealth" is mostly in Tesla stocks that are overvalued about 25 times their real value?

>>12611084
>An order of magnitude more than the Google Lunar prize that created SpaceShipOne
The madman.

>>12611046
>By the way, what the fuck is that trebuchet (?) thing
>Scots at Stirling castle in 1300 AD

So what happens if the SLS blows up with passengers because Boeing didn't want to do a 2nd test because they're rushing things?

>>12611073
Depopulate California, repopulate with trees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xiWn4n8JE&ab_channel=Hazegrayart

>>12611105
>Says it's the most reliable launch system
>blows up because they rushed testing
lol

>>12611105
Boeing gets more money, SLS is delayed another 15 years, and a halt is put on all rockets across the US that claim to want to launch humans, be they public or private.

>>12611105
Boeing gets payed

>>12611105
We get to shitpost about it

>>12611070
Exactly. Raptor is just a bad engine and wont be good for another 2 decades

>>12611073
>>12611084
Based. Idiots will still say he's not doing enough to solve problems on Earth.

>>12611100
top tier based

>>12611127
Yeah I posted it the second I got a notification. Haven't actually read the replies to his tweet yet, but I'm willing to bed a large fraction of them are along the line of
>"Okay fascist"
>"Wow, so you are now pretending like you care?"
Also these vicious replies will all have (((check marks)))

>>12611072
>STM32
based

>>12611084
Elon is clever lol

>>12611062
Yeah it's not like the Raptor has three times the chamber pressure and is the only active FFSC engine.

>>12611084
>they think it's for the climate
>actually just outsourcing part of the sabatier ISRU process
Brilliant

>>12611077

>>12611083
>you will never be the middle shuttle between two big tiddy goth boosters
why even live

>>12611127
Or that he's hoarding green technologies to earn even more money

>>12611142
almost 6K peeps watching fog :)

>>12611136
lmao SpaceX has apologists now. Next you'll tell me you cant see panel gaps

>>12611146
Hummanahummanahummana- BASED

>>12611073
Are trees a carbon capture technology

>>12611074
It's actually a bit more mundane than that.

Theres this concept in early planetary formation called the meter size barrier iirc and the gist is that we understand how very tiny particulates aggregate in proto planetary disks, and we understand that after a certain size (larger than meter sized) gravity between rocks becomes strong enough to make them aggregate. But we dont understand how the tiny particulates get to the point of and larger than the meter size barrier, and simulations dont show them aggregating either.

So we have this tray that can free float on springs that has simulants in it with very specifically chosen material properties, and by recording their long term aggregation it helps us better understand that. Additionally we can fire solenoids at the tray to put energy into the system to repeat the experiment.

I might have a video floating around of one of the trays in motion during one of the exos flights, we had a payload on board testing our cubesat hardware, let me see if I can find it.

>>12611099
That isn't enough. They need to use energy generated from excess solar production to capture carbon.
>>12611101
>25 times their real value
One day you're going to have to live with the fact you missed out. That valuation is absurd even by TSLA bear standards.

>>12611139
! bruh

>>12611127

>>12611024
That's really cool, thank again for the stream

>>12611117
So the federal government can just say "no, citizen, you're not allowed to risk your life for the sake of science in this private venture"?

>>12611165
The American federal government, yeah. They have too much power now. Founding fathers are rolling in their graves.

What's the newest /biz/ speculation about indirectly investing in SpaceX?

>>12611133
I don't see any negative replies, unless you consider the multitudes of people calling trees carbon capture devices negative replies.

I'm reading this article about Broadband internet providers bitching about Starlink
https://www.benton.org/blog/fccs-rural-digital-opportunity-fund-auction-was-supposed-significantly-reduce-americas-rural
it makes a really really good case for Starlink

>>12611082
weeeeeeeeeee lemme flllllllllly!

>>12611165
The federal government can do pretty much whatever the fuck they feel like at this point.

>>12611154
I suggest bamboo
>>12611155
isn't that an over-engineered children's toy

>>12611170
ARKX when it launches, plus satellite operators and manufacturers – MAXR, NPA, SRAC, etc

KTOS isn't pure play space but has some neat ground systems hardware, according to their last conference call something like 80% of space missions run on Kratos hardware or software somewhere in the chain