/sci/ - Science & Math

Why must there be a reason?

>>1258837

Why? We live in a Matrix, when we die, we will se the real world and find the reason for everything.
Happy?

>>1258838
>>1258837

ok replace "reason" with "cause" faggot

what CAUSED the universe to happen

how do you go from nothing to something

>>1258850
Insulting others is definitely how you get answers, kid.

>>1258850
God did it.

>>1258850
Since when was the universe ever nothing?

>>1258850

The great thing about science is that you get to say, "we don't really know just yet", instead of making up bullshit. So in answer to your question, "we don't really know just yet".

>>1258864
it must have started, the big bang theory is a good example.

>>1258858
u mad, fatty?

>>1258868
The Big Bang theory doesn't suggest a beginning and an end and it certainly doesn't say that there was nothing in the beginning.

>>1258875
I like it when people talk about stuff they actually know the definition for. Therefore, I like you.

>>1258875
What theory have you been reading about. Whatever, heard of that one theory where they belive that the Universe is expanding and when it reaches a limit it will implode, and after that, it will expand again? Then something have to trigger that cause. Right?

>>1258868
no, im not talking about the big bang. you're not thinking outside the box enough

for the big bang to happen, the laws of physics had to exist and matter and energy had to exist

im not saying "WHEN WAS THE UNIVERSE FULL OF EMPTY SPACE", because even if the universe were empty, the operations of physics would still exist.

im asking why does the universe exist, not, why is there matter in the universe

You exist, who cares why?

>>1258898
Ohh, I have no idea...

>>1258908
i care thats why i asked retard

>>1258867
This

>>1258898
Because it does. There is no reason, that's the way shit played out, stop trying to give a natural process a meaning.

>>1258898
So you're asking why matter exists and the laws of physics apply?

So, more generally, why is there organization and patterns in the universe?

>>1258923
no one said anything about meaning, retard

>>1258898
You're begging the question.

You start off with the assumption that there must be a reason for the universe to exist. Once you eliminate that assumption, all the questions originating from it will disappear.

>>1258987
i said CAUSE, not REASON

if I ask you, why is there gravity, I don't need you to say STOP GIVING A MEANING TO GRAVITY, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A REASON WHY GRAVITY EXISTS, IT JUST DOES.

i thought this board was full of smart people.

i guess i should have put a disclaimer in my question: science cannot answer my question. I want your opinions since I thought you were smart

There is no reason we know of why anything exists

>>1258993
Protip: this board is pure shit and not in anyway full of smart people.

Seriously.

>>1258993
DONT COME TO /sci/ence IF YOU DONT WANT A SCIENCE ANSWER

1. Noone knows.

2. There need not be a reason.

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>>1258997
'Don't ask that question' isn't a science answer.

>>1259013

Oh, you can ask the question. Just don't be shocked when there isn't an answer.

>>1258993
>i said CAUSE, not REASON
And I'm saying you're begging the question.

It doesn't matter how you word it. You are still assuming that there must be a cause.

>if I ask you, why is there gravity, I don't need you to say STOP GIVING A MEANING TO GRAVITY, THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A REASON WHY GRAVITY EXISTS, IT JUST DOES.
You face this problem and feel angered by my answer because you're ignorant of what science is.

Science is not a dogmatic school of thought, it's not a religion. Scientists don't presume they have the answer to a given question and until they find it, they don't feel like having any "filler" to mask that they just don't know right now.

One of the hypotheses is that gravity is caused by gravitons. Like many hypotheses, it demands rigorous testing before we can say anything else.

>i thought this board was full of smart people.
No, you apparently thought this board was full of some sort of preachers that immediately have the answer to all questions through some divining ability that the other groups of people don't have.

>i guess i should have put a disclaimer in my question: science cannot answer my question.
Science is not a person, it's a method.

>>1259002
cause not reason

oh wait 0/10

>>1259030
u mad?

>>1258833
Suppose there was nothing.
When would you notice?
When there was something?
Question answered.