/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12582968
Birds?

>>12582968
sometimes animals appear to be interested, not sure how you differentiate that from hardwired to enjoy
cows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IypL_EcI9XE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZW4Ska8gvA
elephants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFIT87yPNYk

We need to start an initiative to plant more piano trees, guitar bushes, saxophone vines and drum trees. Those animals deserve the means to make music! This is a travesty of the natural world to be without the ability to make music!

>>12583000
Literally none of those are animals

>>12583024
Yeah they're plants, retard

Because music creates stronger social bonds, something that was very advantageous to early humans

Music is hardwired for human enjoyment, as opposed to the enjoyment of other species

>>12583211
Why? Is there an evolutionary reason why we like music but animals don't care?

birds seem to care. they adapt their songs and seem to intently listen to deviations

You might say "well thats just the birds noticing something new and repeating it because the birds socially repeat their bird songs automatically as is their nature". I could counter and say thats exactly what you are doing as well, the main distinction being from your perspective inside human mind you are experiencing the processes that the automatic meat computer in your brain goes through to create the predicted response, whereas with the bird you are just observing.

>>12582968
music is imitative of human speech

https://youtu.be/jEF9WpQ2_7Q

>>12583256
Other animals like music, just not our music.

>>12582968
plot hole in life. there's lots of plot holes in life if you pay attention.

>>12582968
We're smart enough to notice and appreciate the repetition of a beat...we are also smart enough to anticipate the cycles of those repetitions... in the simplest form you have the binary oom-pah backbeat which dominates popular music world wide. in more complex forms you have the cycling of dissonance and consonance endemic to western traditions...the I chord must go to the V chord which must return to the I chord and all deliberations there within....

I imagine most other animal species cannot understand the deliberate aspect of music which is so very crucial to its nature

I'm >>12583891 anon

Let me put it this way: if you (as a species) are not intelligent enough to vaguely understand concepts of stress and release, you will not be able to enjoy music as humans do.

>>12582971
This. Also insects, frogs, etc. They all sing but not to our tune.

>>12582968
Language.
Also birds.

>>12583891
Niggers enjoy rythm, so animal species can understand music.
>>12583327
This

>>12582971
>>12584005
nah they definitely do not sing because they enjoy it.
its to deter animals from entering their territory.

Im more interested how the major scale was developed. The series of tones is too perfect.

>>12584523
These tones are present naturally as overtones.. we filled in the gaps gradually.
This isn't exactly unknown

>>12583327
That doesn't make any sense.

>>12584537
That makes sense if you know anything about sound-design

>>12584544
OK, but you're suggesting human language somehow would predate music. That's nonsense.

>>12584583
Gorillas beat their chest to create rythm while making moneysounds

Humans have the biggest brains, but not the best sight, or smell/taste. If humans are the only ones who can perceive music, then they logically have the most developed sense of sound. I find that unlikely. Birds have better sight than humans. Is there no animal that has better sound perception?

If it is true, that humans have the most developed sense of sound, then it would follow that brain development and sound perception (i.e. music listening) are directly connected. They would have to be.

>>12582992

>>12584708
Exactly. Therefore, music predates human speech, therefore we do not music "because it imitates human speech". Maybe a case could be made for that being true now, but it didn't before

>>12585757
But music is about patterns. Even tonality, are just rhythmic patterns at high frequency.

I doubt we have the most adept sense of sound but we are capable of appreciating the deliberate placement of musical patterns by musicians/creators.

You do not have to have an advanced perception of sound to realize a hollowed out tree trunk is being struck in a repetitive pattern, ie to a beat.

I'd wager less intellectual animals can perceive a "beat" but I'd doubt their ability to understand the intent of the creator (which would be, to create music)

>>12582968
>In August 2019, Soule was accused of rape by game designer Nathalie Lawhead.[33][34][35][36] He was also accused of sexual harassment by vocalist Aeralie Brighton.[37][38][39] He denied the accusations, with no charges being filed.[37]
Does he still get work, or have they cancelled him permanently?

>>12582968
i dont think we're hardwired for anything
>not even pee pee in poo poo
hence furries

>>12588163
no need he just plays the same shit over and over.. i doubt he even composes for projects probably uses scores he wrote years ago hes been trying to ditch

>>12583000>Checked
I'll stick with my money trees thankyouverymuch

>>12588176
I think we are hardwired to enjoy rhythm because of our heartbeats.
Think of this: as far as musical tempos go, we cut off the slowest designations at around 60BPM, which is just about your average resting heart rate.
We max out somewhere around 200+, which afaik if your heart goes faster than that you die.

About double the resting rate (say 120bpm) is close to the rate of a typical gait.

We hear a beat being played at 120bpm, and it is extremely natural for us to get into it, groove etc.