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Elon is a fraud and waste of tax dollars
Another great success!Fuck Boing, and Fuck Jeff Bozo!
>>12577701Double static fire deniers BTFO
>>125777012 static fire in 1 day. Thats a milestone
hahaha
PIRATES
>dat geyserIs that ok?
FUCK that faggot that was saying "muh you're retarded if you think they'll do more than one static fire" lmfaoThey are going for a third!
>>12577464What say you now?
kek, never change Boca Chica
>If you think they're actually gonna fire again you're delusional
>>12577733exactly, fuck that thunderf00t clone faggot
Are they doing more?
>>12577742no, they're detanking
>>12577726BTFO
>>12577737I can't believe SpaceX is getting raided by pirates.
>>12577728SN9 is totaled
>they go for a third>just to piss on >>12577464
>>12577240HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>12577726It goes on the heap with sn8 Q2 2021
>>12577745Elon said on twitter that they go for a third
>>12577738>If I'm wrong I will never show my face on sfg againI wonder what's going through his mind now? Hopefully a bullet
>>12577742If you think they're actually gonna fire again you're delusional
>>12577720this
>>12577753According to him, this was the third test
>>12577630>not going for orionThe orion battleship was the only one ever designed.
>>12577737Can a state just decide that anyone stupid enough to come near a fucking experimental rocket testing pad while a test is ongoing is exempt from any kind of legal protection? That if he dies or gets injured the owner of the rocket is not even supposed to go to court?
They are showing off at this point.
>>12577726my shitpost immortalized
>>12577767>"oh? sls is having issues performing just one test fire?">"do three in a row"
>>12577768>is there anything we can do to remove the atmosphere?
https://youtu.be/T12ygsp9Mvg?t=94
Is there any way to get Orion levels of thrust from fission?
>>12577729aerospikes aethestics fans!
Cant believe Elon did static fire again just to prove anon wrong.
>Meanwhile at spacex control center:>"Hey let me start the static fire, lemme, lemme, lemme!">"No you had your turn already, there are other people in line. Go puff the flare stack or something"
>>12577776http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist3.php#afterburnerfusionApply afterburners
I didn't hear a honk from SF2. Did I miss it, or was it genuinely just not there?
If you think they're gonna fire for a third time you're delusional
If you think they're gonna hop today youre delusional
I see a good chance of Starship reaching orbit before SLS
-Anatoly Dyatlov
>>12577779>>12577771>>12577750Elo~n shitposting on /sfg/ confirmed.
>>12577701SOON
If you think they're gonna make orbit today you're delusional
>>12577785There was a honk but it sounded like the usual honk.
>>12577795>were you a hero in the meme-war, papa?>"No, but I shitposted in the company of heroes"
I welcome delusional-posting with open arms
>>12577794>comrade senator, spacex will launch before the sls we weill be laughed at>This nasman is delutional, take him away, how is starship doing?>they are about to test their second prototype >ok and how are we doing>we started assembling our test flight, but it has to be done within 12 months or the side boosters will expire>not great not terrible
He's delusional, Starships can't perform back to back test fires.
ROUND 3 HERE WE COME
It's venting more than it was after the first static fire. I still think they're gonna detank.
>>12577799
After this static fire explosion can we please bury the starmeme? It can't work and this disaster costing billions of tax payer money should be scrapped ASAP.Before you ask no I don't work for Sen. Shelby.
HE CAN'T JUST KEEP STATIC-FIRING ALL DAYCAN HE?
Static Fire to Orbit when bros?
>>12577820The virgin SLS: preparing to test(masturbate) once every couple of yearsThe ChadShip: testing (masturbating) several times a day, preparing to orbilaunch (have sex) several times per day
>>12577818Go away Shelby
>>12577823SFTO
>>12577766Yes, states can grant pretty serious immunity from civil liability. For example, Good Samaritan laws or the laws many states have protecting ski resort operators from litigation relating to the natural dangers of alpine activity. Many states have laws extending protection from litigation to persons who use a firearm in lawful self-defense.
i just did a static fire out of my ass 2bh lads
>>12577820pic related intensifies
>>12577737SPACE PIRATES CONFIRMED
>>12577818You're posting from the wrong timeline anon.
NOOOOOOO /SFG/ BROS WE GOT TO COCKY
guys they're scrubbing the third static fire its fucking over ScrubX will NEVER reach four static fires in one day
Detanking againThe people who thought it'd fly again actually are delusional
>>12577824>I once static-fired thirteen times in one day just to see if I could
>>12577841>flyfire, fuckguess I'm the delusional one
>>12577841>flyyes they were delusional
>>12577841thunderfoot proven right once again!
THIRD STATIC FIRE>THIRD STATIC FIRETHIRD STATIC FIRE>THIRD STATIC FIRETHIRD STATIC FIRE>THIRD STATIC FIRE
I wonder what is the world record for subsequents static fires and on which rocket.
They could still static fire another 2 times, with how much time is left in the window, if they really wanted to.
>Detank>Retank>Fourth static fire just to dab on SLS>Detank until test flight
so much delusion itt
>>12577763wait, you mean the military was actually drawing up real plans for a space battleship? Fucking cool
>>12577852>detank>spraypaint snine orange>retank>static fire
SpaceX won't do 3rd static fire today. Its bankrupt. Reminder both SLS and New Glenn can do 3 static fire.
>>12577857You didn't know?Oh anon, you'll really want to go down this rabbithole, trust us it's worth your time.
>>12577793So? It's an experimental low budget program of course it has better chance to get to orbit first. Call me when it fulfills all the safety specifications by NASA to carry people to the Moon. Maybe in 2050, if you are lucky.
>>12577857Yep >When the Orion nuclear pulse propulsion concept was being developed, the researchers at General Atomic were interested in an interplanetary research vessel. But the US Air Force was not. They thought the 4,000 ton version of the Orion would be rightsized for an interplanetary warship, armed to the teeth. And when they said armed, they meant ARMED. It had enough nuclear bombs to devastate an entire continent (500 twenty-megaton city-killer warheads), 5-inch Naval cannon turrets, six hypersonic landing boats, and several hundred of the dreaded Casaba Howitzer weapons — which are basically ray guns that shoot nuclear flame (the technical term is "nuclear shaped charge").>Keep in mind that this is a realistic design. It could actually be built.
>>12577862Absolutely devilish!
if you think they're going to static fire a third time you're absolutely delusional
>>12577866>the venting plume being pulled down by the thrust
>>12577868What is the yield of each individual pellet? Like in order for this thing to fly does it need a ton of hiroshima bombs, or does it use smaller pellets? I feel like you’d run out of fissile material after a few decades of flying this thing around if it consumes a ton of radioactive mass for each burst
if everything goes smoothly today, 12.5km hop when?
>>12577714nobody falling for the bait... /sci/ is indeed a high IQ board
>>12577895Possibly tomorrow, as there's a road closure and a TFR up.
>>12577896it's really weak bait
>>12577900checked let's fucking gooooo
>>12577862>>spraypaint snine orangeWhoa slow down there sweetie, do you have senate approval for that?
ROUND 3 HAPPENING RECONDENSOR ON
>>12577894>after a few decades of flyingWell yeah you still need to refuel it anon.Not sure what the specific yield of the bomblets is, that kind of thing is still pretty classified due to the whole 'miniturization of nuclear weapons' thing. They're supposed to be pretty small though from what I understand, more like a POP than a BANG.
>>12577871Credit that fat virgin from project rho if youre gonna use his shit you fuck
>>12577895https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_3708.htmlTFR for the 16th.
In non SpaceX related news, Space Command just got moved to Huntsville, so that’s pretty neat. Probably the result of Shelby calling in every favor he had before retirement, but it’s still a decent place to put it.
>>12577900delusional
>>12577911I got it from reddit (^;
THEY WILL NOT DO IT.
>>12577915Is there anyone else in congress as adamantly against depots as that asshat was?
>>12577914>>1257789514th, 15th and 16th TFR's are still live
>>12577923All of them once they realize the dangers of depots.
>>12577907
>>12577909i know people think some memer just changed it to arabic, but believe it or not these are the originals. Arabs came into contact with time travellers in the X century, couldnt make much sense of it but tried to keep it a secret, eventually it was stole by the west and when the plans were finally understood there was a gradual plan to put it all into work at a rate that would not be traumatic for the baseline humans. That's why sometimes an invention "appears" out of nowhere and sometimes things that make sense get ultra shut down for a while, theyre just waiting for us to more or less adapt to what has changed
>>12577911Who?>>12577926Is there anything we can do to remove the Congress?
>>12577928my sleep has been fucked for days and one of the days i slept 24+ hours so yes i am delusional
>>12577891this
https://twitter.com/AndyMackReports/status/1349444483314634753
>>12577932Carry guns when protesting.
ROUND THREE NERDS
>>12577870kek behold how far the goalposts have been shifted.
>>12577930>invention of nukes is a closed causality loop paradoxIntriguing
You can't just static fire repeatedly it's not that simple in rocketry.
>>12577939LMAO Trump
>>12577923I don’t think there’s anyone else in congress that cares enough about space to even have an opinion on propellant depots.
RECONDENSER ACTIVATEDROUND THREE PUSSIES!
TANK FARM IS GOING. CALL ME DELUSIONAL BUT ROUND 3
FARM VENT
>>12577956Elon-sama... If you keep going like this m-my concrete is gonna spall...
how many static fires did snate do total?
>>12577963One and they blew a hydraulic line, then another one. Were there anymore?
>>12577795>>12577962Elon put me in the screencap pls
>>125779633 I think, does someone have the Starship chart? That kept track of cryo and static fires.
>>12577926>the dangers of depotsTo whom?
MORTAL COMBAT
>>12577971*KOMBAT
>>12577701shall i explain to you how to outdate all the b.s. nuclear shit they draw up so you can actually make a fusion powered rocket engine? it's super easy.
>>12577970Our rocket makers.
Propelling loading now. Third static fire today. WOOOO
>>12577977>OurFED DETECTED, REEE
>>12577953Haha I sure do love representative government haha
Meanwhile...
>>12577987What will happen first? New Shephard to orbit? SLS hot fire? SN9 flight?
>>12577987The building alone costs more than the entire starship program so far including the free tacos and burritos for the workforce.
>>12577991that building is from Apollo era
>>12577989Unironically SLS will fly before New Glenn
>>12577994I was taking about the yearly maintenance budget.
>>12577991We love our Mexicans, don't we folks?
>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT>TRIVENTTRIVENT
>>12577973WOMBAT
SIREN
>SIRENHERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN
HOW CAN OLDSPACE COMPETE!???!?!!!?!?!!?
>>12577786
>>12577999TRIVENT TRIPS I'M GONNA CUMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGNKiDuy8IY
>>12578007never have lol
>SN9 Static fires 3 times in a day>SLS has been on the stand since 2016 and still hasn't firedBy god and Christ
>>12577987Hello Finland
>>12577977Why? If the government wants to keep pouring money into PLS for whatever reason it can keep doing that. Just pick a convincing enough sounding excuse for the public and that's it. Otherwise competition from the private sector will spur them into working better and achieving greater results. I doubt USA would be worse off once it can build off-world colonies, deliver payloads to orbit much cheaper, mine asteroids and so on.
>>12577895next week probably
>>12578008oh shit wee need wide elon music video :)
>"if you think they're going to fire again you're delusional">mfw they fire two more times
>>12578019o/
>>12578016>risitaslol
https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1349466269121179653>Shitposting while doing 3 static fires in a dayCan a man become any more based?
>>12578026>tfw experiencing mass delusion
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1349466269121179653Back to memeing between static fires.
>>12578019...my old friendI've come to talk with you againBecause a vision softly creepingLeft its seeds while i was sleepingAnd the vision that was planted in my brainStill remainsWithin the sound of scrubbing
YOU CAN'T DO 3 STATIC FIRES IN ONE DAYIT'S IMPOSSIBLE
>>12578034>>12578038If you think that's Elon and not a PR handler you're delusional
>>12578038>>12578034lmao so he saw the pirate ship
>>12578040YOU DON'T KNOW THE POWEROF THE STARSHIP
>>12578040No, it's necessary
>If you think that's Elon and not a PR handler you're delusional
>>12578040To be fair, 3 static fire in one day is illegal and violates the laws of physics. Elon Musk is not an engineer. He's a fraud. SpaceX is fraud. Real credit should be those who actually put work. Not Elon Musk. He's a fraud.
if you think there is any delusion itt you are delusional
>>12578047>Hire a PR handler to mix alcohol and ambien and tank the price of tesla stocksgenius
VENTS CLOSED 20 SECONDS!
BRAAP
YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS
fuck yeah
THEY DID IT!lots of fire this time
I'M GONNA THROOOOOOST
STRRRIKE THREE YOU'RE DELUSIONAL
THEY FUCKING DID IT AGAIN, HOW CAN ANYONE COMPETE WITH DADDY MUSK?
TRES AMIGOS
A THIRD STATIC FIRE IN A DAY!FUCK ULA, FUCK BOING AND FUCK OLDSPACE!
THERE YOU GO
haha okay elon you can detank now...elon?
IT FUCKING EXPLODEDMUSKRATS ON SUICIDE WATCH
https://youtu.be/vWizDna1XO4
They're just making up for the scrubs actually
Impressive, most impressive
>condenser is still going >venting stopped HERE WE FUCKING GO
>>12578034Now that Trump's gone, Elon reply guys have the title of most insufferable
Are they going to do a forth time?
Is elon doing this just to annoy the rest of the industry?
NO DETANKING YET!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEI3N9kIyP4
THREETHREE STATIC FIRES!AH AH AH!
Elon I implore you to start detaking! You can't possibly plan to fire for a fourth time?!
>>12578082ANOTHAWUN
>>12578078>why can't you just do whatever it is all the other rich people I also hate on principle do
cheeky fourth static fire incoming
>>12578078>spending time shitposting/reviewing static firesLiterally the best life.
>>12578078I fucking hate that tranny viv
>>12578078What was he replying to?
>>12578084My theory is that they want a certain amount of burn time (say 4 seconds) but can only burn in .75s intervals to prevent blowing the pad, thus the multiple fires.
OI VEY SHUT HIM DOWN
>>12578092a meme
>>12578095AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HOP ON FRYDAYLET'S GO
>>12578083Had to back up for that one. Nice dragonfire.
>>12578075The ability to lift a water tower is insignificant next to the power of the Starship.
>>12578080cramming for the test
>>12578040>>12578045NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
What is the recondensor.
>>12578080first static fire messing up pissed him off so now he's just flexing and also punishing whoever fucked up by making them fire and refusing to let them go home until he's satisfied
>>12578078he's right, Elon should be overthrowing third world governments and negotiating with the Chinese over access to Ughyr slave labor for car parts like all the other billionaires are doing
Is the nerdle cam periodically greying out for anyone else?
>>12578104recondenses methane so they don't have to burn it off and waste it
>>12578093It also means they can accelerate the proving procedure for each new ship, ideally they'll want to be working up to doing the pressure test, cryo test, and static fire test all within like the same week or even the same day to prepare a Starship for flight.
>>12578108ye
>>12578040>>12578045>>12578103i love /sfg/
They better not be doing any more static firing after today
>>12578071>On a bizarre turn of events today, the national guard has been called in as local police forces can't make local entrepeneur to back down and stop static firign
3 static fires and trump impeached again? it's a good day :)
https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1349465283409408000static fire from 6 miles away. Nice rumble. Skip to 0:29
>>12578073kek
>>12578122literally read that link as estronaut without intending to, lmao
>>12578124its just a matter of time before elon calls him that in the next public Q&A-Nice question estronaut, beard is coming along fine keep up the hormone treatment. So yeah the starship has...
>>12578122Way louder and boomier than I thought, imagine more than 3 raptors being tested, fucking insane, that sounded like a sonic boom overheadWorried about public outcry now
This one was fiery
>>12578132To hell with the public.
Still over an hour until road is opened. There's still a chance for a fourth one
>>12578108glitch in the matrix
Scenes when the road closure is extended for SFs 5, 6 and 7.
January 13th: the Staticfireday
>>12577732AHHHHHHHH>>12577809AHHHHHHH
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1349473054699769859>All three static fires completed & no RUDs!No more, it's been a pleasure
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1349473054699769859Elon dabbed on oldspace enough for today.
don't you guys think you're making a bit too big a deal of static firing
>>12578148No
>>12578148this is /sfg/
>>12578148Find me another engine that can do this shit.
>>12578148it's not like there's anything else going on. Everyone is just excited about the way being clear for another hop soon.
>>12578148no
>>12578148>don't you guys think youre making too big of a deal for an unprecedently amazing god tier never attempted before amazing feat that will go down in history as part of an invention that will change the future of all mankind forever radically in a way that no ohter has ever done before?no
>>12578148>don’t you guys think you’re making a bit too big a deal of static firing?Dilate, seethe, cope
>>12578101What if the first dummy payload is an actual water tower?
>>12578145It's not three static fires...it's a fifteen thousand meter flight test.
>>12578148
>Today at SpaceX is about practicing Starship engine starts. Ship is held down by massive pins while engines are fired. Two starts completed, about to try a third.What do pins mean here?
>>12578155any news on when? spoonfeeder me the ifnro
>>12578153
>>12578148honestly though, is 3 static fires that big of a deal?
>>12578166Something to stop it flying.
>>12578168There's a window open tomorrow, it might not actually fly then but I'd say it's not unreasonable to say that the earliest it could happen is tomorrow.
>>12578166the things that hold it to the stand. probably hydraulic pins holding it in place which let go when it flies
>>12578166like big bolts but smooth.
>>12578080>SS pulls 3 in one day MEANWHILE...
>>12578166thick metal cylinders
>>12578166>Two starts completed, about to try a third.>tweeted after the first startdid Elon time travel to write this tweet?
>>12578173are you saing that one would have to be delusional to expect a hop today?
>>12578148fucking no
>>12578178>BUT THE DOOMERS TOLD ME THAT STARSHIP ISNT REAL!!!’
>>12578172>>12578175So without them it'd be hop?
>>12578166Giant piece of metal holding it down.
>>12578178reminder
>>12578132>Worried about public outcry nowpublic seemed super hyped over the SN8 flight. All this attention is also good for local businesses
>>12578171Snate never did multiple static fires in one day and blew something up on half of them. SLS has been waiting for a static fire for the past 5 years or so.
>>12578182I think he meant Raptor startups, so the first static fire was with 2 raptors only. Might be wrong though, But that doesn't explain why they did 3 static fires.
>>12578189SLS IS OLDER THAN MY SON WHAT THE FUCK?
>>12578186This time it would be like a little hop on the pad, which would probably lead to RUD
>>12577780Lol
>>12578166Like, being pinned down by your sister's massive thighs, like a fuckin dirty tramp
>>12578160>first cargo Starship orbital test>mfw it deploys Hopper to LEO
>>12578183I wouldn't put anything past SpaceX at this moment and I wouldn't stake my reputation on proclaiming that all they'll do is static fires.
>>12578195Your son's wife's son will be a grown man by the time SLS flies.
>>12578148https://youtu.be/vLypXxvlvPU
>>12578195It's older than most of this board
>>12578166So start here is synonymous to static fire?
4?
>>12578216Jej
>>12578216Solid Liquid Solid is the big gay
If you think they're actually gonna hop today you're delusional.
OMGOMGOMG
>Might be going for #4
>>12578148Anon. Nasa spent an entire year only doing the preparations for a single static fire. And they actually failed at even that much once.
Ok bros i have a theory: I don't think they totally detanked the vehicle every time because the frost layer has gone up and down many times which to them should make it easier to do multiple static fires one after the other so round 4 could be possible if i'm right.
I ain't making a webm of this one I wanna do something else today.
Big nigga recondenser running now.
Nobrainer here. I have a question. It's obvious that its internal power is electrical which means it has a battery. So what kind of output are we talking about here? How much of a battery does a rocket need?
>>12578171Considering they want to use these engines to do multiple launches to fucking orbit multiple times a fucking day, this is a good start.
If you think they're actually gonna build a city on Mars tonight you're delusional.
Are- are we the 21st century equivalent of autistic trainspotters?
4TH STATIC FIRE ATTEMPT
So, no 4th static, but they're detanking and getting ready for inspections according to an Elon tweet.
>>12578237They use a Telsa battery, so however much those are.
>"I can't believe Elon is going for a 4th static fire"
Are SpaceX gonna build a proper flame trench for the test stand? It's got to be something they'll be at least thinking about after the problems with the longer static fires, and I don't doubt that part of why they're only doing short ones (lots of short ones) is to not chew up the pad.
>>12578240That's fair to say.
>>12578240trainspotters are based so I'm down with that comparison
Detanking and inspections nowhttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1349478110027280386?s=19
if they go for fourth, there will be no recovery, do you understand?/sfg/ will go categorically apeshit. Oldspace will collapse. Blue Origin goes bankrupt.
>not going for fourth static fire for the daySpaceX is never going to make it, they are DONE, I guess I'm a boing shill now
>>12578248MARS HOP TOMORROW
>>12578244Fourth static fire? Why would be stop a fifth static fire? Have some faith Anon surely we can do a first hop of the day. What do you mean only two hops?
>>12578240Didn't know what that was until right now(always thought it was just a movie) Yes.But being a trainspotter at the turn of the 20th century is probably not very comparable to being one today. S-surely we are comparatively less autistic
>>12578254>"Hop to Mars tomorrow?">Elon no>"ELON YES"
why do I see always the same pajeets in the first replies to Elon's tweets? it's always that pranay dude or viv
>>12578256we don't actually have to leave our homes to do it, so probably
Dubs and SN9 dies in its sleep tonight
>>12578240Please don't compare us with those giga autists. I mean yeah, we are pretty autistic but those train guys are on a whole other level.
>>12578266Bezos pls go
>>12578266Sleep is for the weak
>>12578266
>>12578205Why stop at LEO? Hopper can mount and fire a rocket engine. Add a rapvac and send it to see Mars.Of course you can't fit a 9 meter hopper in a 9m Starship. Maybe for the 18m version.
>>12578266If they find a problem during inspections I won't be happy but I will be forced to admit meme magic is real
>>12578266YOU BASTARD, NOW WELL NEVER SEE THE HOP
>>12578266That only works for dubs Starships. SN11 and 22 are in peril, though.
>>12578266Good thing it's a huge metal tube so it never sleeps.
>>12578266Haha too bad starship never sleeps
Dubs and SN9 doesn't die tonight in its sleep anymore
Will Aerolock Martindyne ever commit to making a cheap engine that could rival SpaceX? Or is Raptor going to BTFO everyone else for the next 50+ years
>THREE FUCKIN STATIC FIRES
>>12578266It's over...
>>12578276>Hopper Hops to Mars>An Elon Musk production
>>12578245I guess building that infrastructure takes time, is expensive and Starship is meant to be super tough anyway. And with all that on the one hand, I guess they figured it doesn't make sense for a few tests.
>>12578295>Shekeljew Aerokike>Making an engine that costs under a hundred million dollars Lmao
>>12578295Not fast enough to become competitive. They'd need to have made the decision five years ago and started treating their rocket engine design like a new fighter jet program. It's far too late for them to compete now, unless they do a major reorganization of how they actually manage projects.
>>12578263because pajeets are the ultimate stans and that's their way of saying give bob and vagene
>>12578309>unless they do a major reorganization of how they actually manage projects.Realistically which oldspace company would do this first and when?
Anyone ever seen 'I Aim At The Stars' anyone know where it can be seen?
>>12578317Lockheed? The skunkworks is still a thing, I guess, but I dunno if that's still good or just a reanimated corpse of something that used to be good.
>>12578317Realistically all of them have a better chance of dissolving and contributing employees to random spinoff startups which are actually successful than actually turning around their behavior
>>12578317Well, Blue and Lockmeme both definitely have the money to whip together a fast, lean rocket program, but Lockmeme is complacent because the government sucks their cock constantly. Blue is also complacent because Jeff Who? has no real interest in spaceflight and they get to be paid to sit around doing almost nothing for his vanity project. BOING probably won't exist within a decade. Oldspace is already dead, just like the planned economy which has been supporting their dead weight. They just don't feel it yet.
>>12578317"realistically", pigs will fly before that happens
>>12578333>BOING probably won't exist within a decade.Checked but I doubt this. Boeing is the sole American commercial aircraft manufacturer and there is no way the US government would let them die
>>12578263viv is qt
>>12578325I'd never heard of it but a quick search didn't show much in the way of free stream sites. I checked TPB and they've got two files for it, 3 and 1 seeds respectively.
>>12578195lol you fucking retard if thats true it was always true
>>12578353Well thats something. Thanks.
Good news if anyone here wants to invest in space but doesn't want to pick individual stocks, ARK is creating a space exploration and innovation ETF. They're one of the top ten ETF companies and well known for predicting the rise of Tesla so it should be pretty decent. I realize that I sound like a paid shill but it's about god damn time that we make money from our spaceflight autism, profit from the increasing normie interest and the rapidly falling cost of putting things to space.
>>12578384I've been thinking about this actually so it's a welcome post.
>>12578384What's an ETF? I literally don't know how stonks work, my autism isn't pointed that direction.
how to get big tiddy space gf?
>>12578384I dunno, aren't we pretty much scheduled for a major economic catastrophe within a decade or so? I don't think spaceflight will be a safe bet when that happens.
>>12578243they use multiple tesla batteries
>>12578384What sort of things will be going in to it? Like, you can't buy SpaceX stock, so is it all just Lockheed, Boeing, etc?I'd be tempted by a SpaceX ETF (maybe their suppliers + adjacent businesses), but not an effectively-oldspace ETF.
>>12578086>why don’t you go play golf every month so I can call you a lazy fat cat piece of shit !
>>12578384I like Ark but I don't think space is full of good investments. The status quo is going to face upheaval over the next decade and there's very little up for public investment that's actually directly involved in that.
>>12577915"The decision came after Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett traveled to the White House this week to tell Trump the military had chosen Colorado Springs after a new presidentially ordered process that tossed out an earlier decision to keep the command, its 1,400 airmen and thousands of civilian workers here.Trump, officers familiar with the briefing said, instead ordered the command to head to Alabama, a state that includes six lawmakers who objected to the election results last week and delivered Trump a Senate win, with Republican Tommy Tuberville unseating Democrat Doug Jones.”https://gazette.com/news/sources-space-command-heading-to-alabama/article_83762216-55cc-11eb-9075-1f99ce1965b8.htmlso that's how shelby got space command moved to huntsville. but what leverage did shelby have over trump???
>>12578398Decade? We'll be lucky if we don't hit moderate depression era lows over the next four years.
>>12578396Which space babes would have the biggest tits? Moonies? Martians? Jovians?
>>12578390It's basically a basket full of various stocks, this way you can profit from how they perform collectively instead of having to try to pick winners and losers which most people are terrible at. Most serious retail investors buy index ETFs, which is trying to match the return from the broader market while paying less fees than something like a mutual fund, but this will be a bit different because it's actively managed and will only include space stocks.
>>12578422Looks like it's finally time for me to invest some stomnks.
>>12578422Not that guy. What does ETF stand for?
>>12578417>so that's how shelby got space command moved to huntsville. but what leverage did shelby have over trump???>Trump reversed the DoD's decision to garner support from Alabama against impeachment.so that's what happened... if the freedom fighters didnt attempt to save america last week then space command would be in colorado springs
stolen from r*ddit
>>12578417The House rep for Huntsville’s district is getting a lot of heat for allegedly helping to incite the people that broke into the Capitol, so maybe there’s a connection there? He’s probably just throwing pork to a reliably red state, assuming the anonymous sources are actually real. The only other realistic option for basing would’ve been in Colorado Springs.
>>12578432>>12578439Is there any reason for me to care that it's going to be in one place instead of the other? Maybe one being better than the other? Or does it make no difference?
>>12578402They will probably include some of old space but they will have new space companies as well. Some of them stand to benefit from the success of SpaceX like Momentus Space and the various cubesat producers and others like AST & Science will be mostly unaffected. I doubt they'll include many smallsat launchers, the person who runs these funds takes Elon's word as gospel and likely knows they don't have a future.
>>12578437CLAP CLAP
>>12578431Exchange traded fund. Think of it like a stock that includes many companies instead of just one.
>>12578447Red state blue state
>>12578447It makes no difference, they will do fuck all regardless of the location.
>>12578437>claims it's from reddit>no but I'm le tiredFalsehood and ficion.
>>12578457Thanks
>>12578412Do you mean generally or just in terms of space? There are a lot of decent public space companies that won't be disrupted from SpaceX and companies that will thrive. We'll have to wait until they release the holdings of the ETF but most likely it will be heavy on the good companies, as ARK specializes in disruption and understands exactly what SpaceX is doing.
dear moon is actually happening ;_;
>>12578437>taking anything from reddit that isn't SLS cope
>>12578447As someone that’s working to be an AE in the area, I’m pretty excited about it, but aside from that, Huntsville has a really good quality of life with a significantly lower cost of living than Colorado Springs. Operationally, Redstone Arsenal is an Army facility instead of Air Force, so it should help accomplish the goal of keeping the USAF from trying to muscle back into the space game. Industry-wise, both cities have a ton of highly trained professionals in space and defense, but Huntsville has the advantage of a major NASA facility (and the exclusively space-focused contractors that accompany it).
>>12578479Prolly an intern at nasa
>>12578474What kind of precedent would Dear Moon set? It would be the first time a private citizen has left LEO
>>12578461Looking at their budget requests and the massive amount of “guardians” or assigned airmen.... what a giant waste of moneyNRO still has a bigger budget for their spy sats anyways
>>12578490anarchocapitalist space future
>>12578480Doesn't sound too bad, hope it works out anon.
>>12578490first private-publix space group trip
>>12578398If that happens inflation will be so high that any savings you have will be worthless and if the history of the stock market tells us anything, it's that it is unwise to delay investing because of those concerns. I remember a few years after the housing bubble popped I read so many comments saying the same thing and decided that I wasn't going to invest, as you can imagine I missed out on tens of thousands of dollars from that decision and one of the greatest bull markets of all time.Obviously you should make your own decision and work out your risk tolerance but if you're a relatively young person with steady income I think it's appropriate. In these bull market conditions ARK funds return about 25% a year and I'm already up nearly 100% on the space stocks I bought over the last few months. I'm able to take profit from them and put them into more stable investments which would have lower drawdowns during a real recession or depression.
>>12578471I mean space. And I think they have their heads on straight but understanding what SpaceX is doing is exactly the issue. You can grab meme stocks that are going to get pumped just by being "space" but most of them lack long term solvency. I don't trust anybody in launch. In propulsion in general people with a half decent bus are important, right now that's pretty much just Momentus and Rocketlab, there's some oldspace ones but they're going to lose more than they gain. Communications and internet services are going to be mogged hard by Starlink which MIGHT split off in the future. I'll admit there's probably a decent amount in the sat market that goes under my notice, Planet and their ilk are probably a good bet.
>>12578148good bait :)NOW GO BACK
>>12578516Would this start a change in people's perception of spaceflight?
>>12578539not reallyit's still a bunch of select people funded by a millionaire; people already have that perception
>>12578349viv is a man. i'll jerk him off and finger his ass while sucking on his adam's apple
>>12578557Based
>>12578583I think he/she would look MUCH fucking better without that retarded haircut.
>>12578523I agree, I just think you're being premature because I know investors won't be able to discern the bad companies from the good ones and yet the whole industry will pump without ever dumping to where it was before, just like what happened with EVs and renewables over the last few years. The end result is that a lot more money inflows than outflows and this ETF will benefit regardless of how well it is managed. Most of the old space companies have profitable businesses outside of space with good fundamentals and most of the publicly traded new space companies are not real competitors with SpaceX.
>>12578539Maybe. I think there's a big public perception right now that anything sent to space needs to justify itself in firm scientific or humanitarian terms because the effort and investment is otherwise too big to waste (see: the backlash to the falcon heavy roadster launch). Once people recalibrate and realize that the effort and investment is much lower than they thought (and on track to being democratized) they will become more comfortable with "wasteful" space launches. This kind of change of public perception will be needed to actually move past the current austerity mindset.
>>12578605>the backlash to the falcon heavy roadster launchPost examples
>>12578616Tons of people were pissed that he sent up a car (/advertisement for his other company) and not kids' science projects or something "useful". It's exactly that kind of mindset that's poisonous to progress.
>>12578627>Tons of people were pissed that he sent up a car (/advertisement for his other company) and not kids' science projects or something "useful"Got a source for that?
>>12578627>>12578659I can vouch for anon... it seems like all my "woke" friends are against spaceflight, Elon Musk et alThe same type of woke leftists who think owning an expensive sports/luxury vehicle at ALL is politically incorrect
>>12578666Those aren't people, they're obstacles.
>>12578583That specific tranny is actually pretty okay, as far as they go, just autistic about Tesla and SpaceX. He doesn't get too far into identity politics and forced pronoun use.
>>12578666time to throw those friends under SN10 when it static fires and find new friends, anon
>>12578659Were you not on /sci/ or online at all when it happened? It would take two seconds to search yourself, but if you really need me to spoonfeed you here's the top link from google:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/07/elon-musk-spacex-launch-utterly-depressingplenty of other articles like this, not to mention social media and news media
>>12578666>The same type of woke leftists who think owning an expensive sports/luxury vehicle at ALL is politically incorrectWho cares about what those kinds of people think?
>>12578690Archive that shit at least, so that they don’t get shekels for posting garbage
>>12578699Fucking BASED Wernher
>>12578690>quotes "whitey on the moon" garbagearticle discarded
What's the best SHORT response to a fucking faggot who says that spaceflight is waste of time/money/resources? I usually tell them to kill themselves, but are there any better responses?
>>12578490Imagine if Dear Moon happens before Virgin and BO bouncy castle happen. I think BO is most likely to happen first, probably nudging Virgin into finally sending people up, all before DM, but still, if either of them still hasn't launched paying passengers it'll look bad.
>>12578720pic related If they mean personal wealthy tell them to KYS
>>12578245>a proper flame trench for the test stand?Starship is being designed to not need a flame trench.Superheavy on the other hand...
>>12578720The lion does not concern himself with the opinion of the sheep
>>12578720Over $1200B to help the poor and yet homelessness is still a serious problem. The $20B that NASA gets would affect nothing
>>12578720>I usually tell them to kill themselves, but are there any better responses?Yeah you can do it for them.
>>12578733
>>12578720The BEST and most solid argument is it's a great driver of technological innovation. Space has pushed tons of technology forward, and is used in almost everything nowadays, even stuff like farming. Any achievements we make in sustainability, power generation/storage, production etc. for anything related to spaceflight will also be leveraged to make things better on earth. Spaceflight isn't a zero sum game, and it's stupid to think of it as such.Some links:https://www.decipher.com.au/blog/agriculture/how-are-satellites-used-in-farminghttps://spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff/brochureshttps://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-report-details-how-agency-significantly-benefits-us-economy
>>12578720>spaceflight is waste of time/money/resources?Everything is, though. Objectively.
>>12578699Some of those people have power, now.
>>12578759What are they gonna do? Ban SpaceX from space?
>>12578749What were those nogs thinking when they wrote that and placed it next to her?Also I was thinking about this for a while, but are nogs a great filter? They seem to destroy everything they touch and stand in the way of any real progress by causing enormous amounts of money and resources to be diverted to them so that they can multiply and destroy or hinder everyone else even more, they are almost like a biological weapon as any area with a large enough number of them will spontaneously turn too ruin.
>>12578771They will hinder it and you know it. They would rather humanity remain here and perish along with them rather than allow an ideological opponent to further the research and development of space travel.That retard Scott Manley cheered when some scientist or engineer got sacked because he wasn’t fond of gays or that time he tried to get a meeting with the democrats to not defund space and they basically told him to fuck off, but he still simps for them despite knowing he can’t have his cake and eat it.People like that will hold us back and they are happy to knowingly do it just too spite their opponents.
>>12578791>People like that will hold us back and they are happy to knowingly do it just too spite their opponents.But SpaceX isn't a politician's project. If anything the company owes its existence to both parties
>>12578775>Detroit/Hiroshima: 1945 vs today.jpg
>>12578557>>12578583Saw this Person many times on twitter, was never exactly Sure which gender
>>12578775>are nogs a great filter?No
>>12578798Spacex make their money mostly by getting contracts especially from the government, but if the government hate them then they will just give them all to those retards at ULA or maybe they will add some red tape like refusing to let them launch a rocket except when a number of inconvenient and almost pointless hoops are not jumped through in the right order or by just delaying them constantly.Don’t forget that many of these politicians have actual business reasons as well and they wouldn’t want to disappoint their friends over at ULA by not giving them a juicy contract over spacex.I hope spacex can pull through that and Elon’s vision of Mars is realised, I only hope he can break free of the shit back here and get some kind of independence there.
Should I short iridium, viasat, hughsnet, etc...? Starlink can't be more than two years away from 404ing their entire businesses.
>>12578824ehhhhhhhhh
>mfw SN9 launches tomorrow at the same time as New Shepard
>>12578821>but if the government hate them then they will just give them all to those retards at ULADidn't SpaceX successfully sue the USAF for pulling stuff like that?
>>12578827Literally how can they possibly compete?
>>12578810Yeah I think they are more like a symptom of the real problem which is compassion or more specifically too much compassion. I have heard that for an alien species to get to space or too even become the dominant creature on it’s planet it needs to be brutal, logical and ruthless when it needs to be otherwise it would be destroyed by another group that is more in line with these traits.The way the primary space faring race of Earth is getting on right now does not seem quite in line with those traits nor does it seem to be turning out terribly well rejecting them, especially as other groups who hold those traits more closely begin to sense what they perceive as weakness and rightfully exploit it.Is having too much compassion for unhelpful or even dangerous things a good idea?
>>12576225Hydrolox has it's issues but there is also a reason everyone is using them. The expander cycle hydrolox is the highest ISP chemical engines to ever fly and for long burns like GTO and TLI it makes a lot of sense.I'm not saying everything should be hydrolox but the Centaur has proven extremely useful even if it comes with an oldspace price tag.
>>12578835evaluate the whole of their businesses to see if they have an outthey should get destroyed but they could weasel out of it and diversify
>>12578831Yes, but if the court happened to be friends with ULA then it could have turned out worse and given how partisan people are getting it wouldn’t be insane to imagine them all ganging up to crush the competition.
Cargo Dragon leaving ISS nowhttps://youtu.be/nA9UZF-SZoQ
>>12578828With any luck SN10 will go higher than New Shepard.
>>12578775>Ahm hungry.
>>12578846>I have heard that for an alien species to get to space or too even become the dominant creature on it’s planet it needs to be brutal, logical and ruthless when it needs to be otherwise it would be destroyed by another group that is more in line with these traits.I think that is only valid if every spacefaring species were ruthless. Even if a significant minority of such species were compassionate and cooperative then there might be a trend towards space cooperation. Just look at the social differences between humans and chimpanzees. Humans are naturally cooperative at some level and thus this encourages more humans to be the same to survive. Chimpanzees are much more brutal and would often cheat each other out, cooperation there is pointless
>>12578850>Splashdown in ~40 minutesGood thing I wasn't planning to sleep anyway. Fucked up sleep schedule finally pays off, thanks Elon!
Good thing about today's testing is that it puts to bed permanently the honk = doomed raptor meme. The first static fire today sounded RANCID, just listen: https://youtu.be/4W5SpwgTBaE?t=36 . But they did 2 more static fires afterwards regardless. So funny noise != turbopump soup
>>12578863It left yesterday, it's splashing down shortly.
>>12578879>>12578863Most current official streamhttps://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg
>>12578878600hz, not great, not terrible.
>>12578850NASAs WB-57 team will be on-site filming it. No word on whether or not the vid will be made public, though.https://twitter.com/nasawb57/status/1349491615602192385
>>12578887gross
>>12578887Kek, I like to think that either Big Jim or the WB57 pilots (or both) love spacex and want to film everything with that plane
>>12578874Humans do that constantly to each other so it’s not unique, but chimpanzees do help each other by hunting cooperatively and letting each other have food after the hunt, they will cheat or steal like humans, but an individual ape would probably not have caught his prey to begin with so the cooperation pays off.Besides you are missing out the trait of being logical as apes are usually anything but.
>>12578891That’s what you will be eating on Mars
>>12578894NASA and SpaceX have signed a space act thing that says that they'll use NASA sensors to follow and film reentry for SpaceX to learn more about it
>>12578878Seeing there is no ice on the rocket I'm wondering if the fuel level was so low she had fuck all thermal mass and we are just hearing the metal expand from the heat.
>>12578902>eating tube food through your helmet straw while blowing off the solar panels in your cybertrucksounds like a comfy 9-5
>>12578894it was kinda cute how the pilot posted weeks before SN8's flight that he was really looking forward to it and how obviously disappointed he was when their plane broke down on the very same day of the flight. Hopefully he gets to see SN9
>>12578902Couldn’t they make some kind of MRE with a bunch of compressed nutrient bars that give you what you need?Why bother with semi liquid tube trash?
>>12578908>eating crab pellets through your helmet hatchhmmmmmm
>>12578908Full pressure suit, man.
>>12578720the fact that you come runing here like a little bitch tells me whoever got your panties in a bunch deserves to get a lot more fun out of you, so if you get bullied again either break his jaw in a fight or tell him he has the permission of other alphas to break yours
>>12578905>tfw we're getting space boomers
>>12578908He's joking, you only need the paste while in a full pressure suit, any Mars lander is going to have an area like the LEM where it can be pressurized and you can get out of your suit.
>>12578846Yes, compassion for the contractors is what bungled SLS
>>12578891what do you do if you need to shit or piss?
holy shit look at that hair
>>12578923D-do people make out in space?
>>12578920>Mars Landeryou mean Martian Habitat.We're talking about the scenario where you spend a whole working day in a pressure suit on EVA in a rover on either a geology field trip or a maintenance excursion (to blow dust off the solar panels).>>12578922>pisscatheter>shithold it
>>12578906Poor guy, I hope he's there on hop-day too.
>>12578903Is there a reason they were trying to capture the SN8 flight though? Did it have something to do with HLS moonship or was Big Jim just itching to help out
>>12578891imagine the cognitive dissonance you must feel when you live in a house with a 20x20cm tv thats considered gigantic and luxurious, as a man your physical strenght is important and you have to fix things around the house constantly, most of it functions with crude inventions that are marginally better than what humanity had 100 years ago, your lawn mower broke down so you use the scissors...then you say goodbye to your wife and go PILOT A SUPERSONIC SPY PLANE AT THE EDGE OF SPACE FOR DAYS AT A TIME WITH IN FLIGHT REFUELING WHILE EATING TROUGH A TUBE IN YOUR SPACESUITthen you go back, you brought your kid a toy, a tin robot that moves its arms hes AMAZED that the toy has a mechanism in itgod dammit the xx century was transitional as fuck, many things that will be relevant from here until the end of mankind were starting and many things that were relevant from the beggining of time were ending
>>12578922>not being like that project mercury chad who just emptied his bladder, shorting out all the medical systems in the process, while at the same time telling NASA eggheads to stop bitching about everything and put his ass into space
>>12578933it's a good test of the tracking system to make sure they're not dumbasses before they miss some really important data during a reentry anomaly or what have youalso it'll be really cool footage
>>12578926>Mark Lee and Jan Davis were the first (and so far only) married couple to fly together in space. They flew aboard Space Shuttle Endeavour (STS-47) in 1992.You know the fucked in LEO, how could you not.>>12578931>a whole working dayYeah in that case lunch would probably be paste.
>>12578891Seems unnecessarily disgusting, why not just fast? I guess you might need something to avoid crash during endurance activity but there's stuff specifically for that that's more palatable.
>Bob eats all the tube food in the first hour of flight
Okay wait I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. Martian food. Obviously the first settlers will have tons of MRE’s. (I believe elon said for every crewed SS there’s going to be like 9 cargos? presumably lots of non perishable food on board). Likely a farm will be started but it will be small. You might be telling your future children stories of earth, about how you don’t need a space suit because the entire planet is friendly to life. Herbs and spices and fruit and vegetables and live animals grow and roam free all over the place. It will seem like the garden of eden lmao. Maybe by the second generation they will have enough real estate to grow self sustainable food and you won’t have to rely on earth to fill your stomach save for niche things that you can’t grow on mars. Meat will be a tricky situation.
>>12578939The missions those high altitude planes did could last 16+ hours so you are going to want to eat so you don't get distracted by hunger pains.
>>12578933the pilots sounded like they were just fans and wanted to get some sick footage. Maybe management is secretly the same? Though they'd have to rationalize it somehow on paper>>12578935damn, that's really wild when you think about it
>>12578949>Meat will be a tricky situation.lab-grown meat is the obvious solution. Provided it's viable by that point.
>>12578914>>12578912I was referring to being in the ship already on the Martian surface, would are they planning on feed everyone with when they get there?I imagine Steve would be very interested.
>>12578949Food, water and oxygen are so important I think it'll be within a decade of the first base until they are growing their own food.As for meat I can't see that happening without terraforming as it takes a shitload of plant to get a little meat and that meat needs oxygen too.
>>12578959Yeah, but if you're in a full pressure suit, you're pretty much settled on nutritional paste.
>>12578902That doesn't look like a fresh hydroponic salad and braised mushrooms with Salmon steak.
>>1257893566 years from an engine on some wood and cloth hopping a little bit, to the LEM settling down on lunar regolith. Weird century.
>>12578933>>12578937>>12578954Pilots need flight hours to stay mission ready, if they are going to be flying anyway might aswell get them to do some cool PR stuff.
No live footage for Dragon. Confirmation that drogue chutes deployed
>>12578896A fair point. I guess I chose a poor example. My point was that brutalism for survival or compassion for survival becomes viable depending on the leanings of the majority of the local population. "Aliens would quickly blow each other up" or "aliens would be peaceful with others" assumes that majority
>>12578950If you can't go that long you can take the congealed gravy tube I guess, I'd pass. Going a few days even with endurance activity is barely noticeable in my opinion.
so, after you spend twelve hours off-roading across Mars with your geology bros, eating tube paste and peeing in a catheter, what do you do for the night? You can't sleep in your suit in your rover and you need to poop.>>12578956crab, shrimp, chicken, tilapia>>12578960they will have effectively infinite free oxygen for the colony due to needing to electrolyze millions of tons of water to refuel the fleet of Starships, and only needing 90% of the stoichiometric mixture for the rocket engines(you'll always produce extra oxygen if you're making methalox for rockets out of water and carbon dioxide)
>>12578968hoping we get some footage after the fact>>12578975>crab, shrimp, chicken, tilapia>>12578962>Salmon steak.I take it seafood is more efficient than something like beef? >hydroponic salad and braised mushrooms with Salmon steak.desu this is way better than how I usually eat. I'd sure as shit go to mars if it meant eating like this.
Where's the live feed? NASA stream (>>12578881) seems like late
>>12578936Holy BASED.>Hey medicoes, check out how hard I can piss!>pwwwfffsssssshhhhhhh
>>12578977Are they planning to stream too?
>>12578852Chasing Isp is not worth it
>>12578987>NOOOO YOU CAN'T PEE IN YOUR SUIT YOU'LL MESS UP THE SENSORS>REPEAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF ME PISSING MY PANTS
>>12578988I friccin guess not dunno what that's about.
>>12578971For me after ~12 hours without food I start to get hunger pains, I would be slurping paste after 16 no matter how "interesting" the taste is.>>12578975>they will have effectively infinite free oxygenTrue but that doesn't make meat easy, it takes a shitload of space and at least for the first couple of decades I can't see them having tens of square km of farms for meat.Maybe they could to aquaponics for fish but I don't know enough about the chemistry to know how hard that would be do to in a closed system.>>12578990Depends on the mission, the more delta-V you need the more ISP is worth chasing.
>>12578935Fucking kino. I've been replaying a lot of battlefield 1 recently (which really immersed me into WW1 and the time period overall). Imagine man taking to the skies for the first time. These ensigns who were being trained as pilots probably felt on top of the world. It was probably especially invigorating as an american seeing how flight was first conquered in kitty hawk, north carolina, USA. The orville brothers' first flight was only LESS THAN 20 YEARS AGO and now you are about to mount a nimble, fine-tuned machine equipped with guns and bombs.
Is this dude right that NASA had previously looked into methane and they struggled with it?
>>12578936they just turned off the electrical components, let the A/C dry out his suit for 15 or so minutes and they were well on their way.Pretty based to be the first American in space while doused in urine ngl
>>12579003If you are chasing delta-v then doing things like doubling your starting mass is way better than going from 380 Isp to 450 Or staging at some point >>12579005My barbecue doesn’t have combustion instability, dnno what he’s talking about
>>12579005Damn look at that FUDpost
>>12579005it was a sabotaged research program, like Venture Star and such
>>12579003>For me after ~12 hours without food I start to get hunger painsThat's horrifying
Imagine not being able to fast for at least three days. Yikes.
>>12578965some people saw tanks airplanes AND cars for the first time in their lives when ww2 started and they didnt even know they existed till then.like, a people living on a village in the middle of europe was basically the same as in the middle ages, then suddenly a fucking tank comes in, god dammit
>>12578990Chasing Isp is worth it, outside gravity wells.
>>12579034The DM-2 Crew Dragon test flight was less than 24 hours from launch to docking and both pilots ate everything
what do you guys think made the difference today? They clearly changed something in their pre-light routine that resulted in significant improvements
>>12579038is it for chemical engines? If you really want ISP you'll use a different technology
>>12579004>battlefield 1take into account htat the game is wildly unrealistic to the point of being cartoonish, they forced some machines and weapons that were maybe starting to be produced as prototypes a year after the war had ended as if they were being mass produced in the beggining. They had to, realistic ww1 would be boring as hell
>>12579036The Pacific would have been even crazier. Tribes still living in the stone age with no contact with the outside world and suddenly tanks come rolling through their villages, millions of tonnes of warships park up by their beaches and fighter planes blowing each other out of the sky overhead.
>>12579036Reminds me that I read about some Russian family that moved out to Siberia to be isolationists and missed the entire war.I think they all got sick and died later when some reporter went to interview them and gave them the flu or something.
>>12577871goddamn, and that is with 1960s technology. imagine what a realistic battleship designed now could do
>>12579046>realistic ww1 would be boring as hellexcuse me, the eastern front was dynamic as fuck
>>12579045If you want to get there in this lifetime, then yes. Otherwise, you pick "a different technology" because I'm assuming you're thinking about ion thrusters and the like.It's always a tradeoff between thrust and Isp
it's difficult to see but they're currently moving the forward flaps. Supposedly they also tested RCS thrusters earlier. Going through pre-flight checks looks like
>>12579049I wonder if any of these guys still await the return of US troops with their chocolate and coke-a-cola.
>>12579056Weird, all's quiet on the western front.
>>12579036>Panzer vs Sherman through the middle of a middle ages farming community
>>12579042Given SN8 had tank pressurization issues I think it's safe to say that has changed.I'm wondering if the first fire was at a lower tank pressure to test the new system and the second was at full tank pressure.
>>12579058Probably, religion tends to stick around for awhile even when there aren't people in living memory that saw the miracles first hand.
>>12579058Cargo cults are wild, in a most subtle sort of way its the way our society functions right now. advances are zooming and in the general public only extremely tech savy people like us have even a clue of whats happening.its particularly funny when you see boomers that have internalized the notion that they HAVE to know how stuff works or else they arent manly hopelesly try to fake knowledge about computers.Like they go "oh yeah, an HP computer? oh yes yes, those are good, really fast, thats the one you should get" they dont even know the components, what is the computer fast as, if they have money they are perfectly capable of buying a gaming computer to check e-mails, easily spending 10x more . Theyre literally clueless but they might die without knowing it, just like those cargo cultists making straw statues of airplanes in the hopes one of them magically takes to the sky.and the scariest thoughts is that it all changes so rapidly it could happen to us MORE THAN ONCE in our lifetime
>>12579061well lets make A FAREWELL TO ARMS THEN
>>12579078I wouldn't be surprised if I end up dealing with tech I have no idea about, having learnt from the boomers mistakes I'll just ask a couple of 20yo's what the best option is instead of pretending I have a clue or just buying the most expensive option in the hope it's the best.
Looks like the WB-57 got to watch CRS-21 splash
>>12579091-Hey grandson, im not a boring grandpa like mine was im cool and inclusive and shit, wanna play some LATEST GEN VIDEOGAMES-Sure fire up your neural implant and go into the matrix-uHH, no like, you have a neural implant, no no, this is fun, trust me, you cant not like this, this si the ultimate cutting edge of high res graphics, its 8k , its the playstation 29 and...-gramps you dont even have a simple surface neural implant and you claim to be cool, sorry i just cant interact with reality anymore, im not asking for those like eye-spikes or artificial cerebelum just a gen -1 neuralink...-oh,, well... perhaps another time i really dont trust those implants they are not safe and-of course your generation would think that-you cheeky bastard... ok then what are you like gay? bi? polyamorous? i accept all, im cool im not-Actually im having my genitals removed and they will be implanted into a sentient dog-spider where people will pay to have it ejaculate- WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK THATS DISGUSTING HOW CAN YOU BE SU...-sorry gramps, you said you were cool, seems like you are an extremely facist bigot after all who ONLY accepts the first few hundred sexes, like what are you a priest or something?
>>12579109>one day those sites will have an icon for orbital starships AND another one for e2e ones
>>12579124three icons, Starship/Super Heavy, Starship, Super Heavy
>>12579109nice. God that would be a comfy job
>>12579109STS-115 from a WB-57
>>12579113Not gonna lie, I always thought my grandad cool, still do.Crazy bastard delivered the underground paper in Nazi occupied Netherlands when he was ~12.
interesting. So the new GSE procedure is far more consistent than the old one
>>12579137that's what they're testing!they didn't want to risk it with the earlier prototypes (preferring to just try to get them in the air) but SN9 is expendable enough for them to really work it
>>12579136yeah of course me too, mine killed a nazi officer with a bayonet.im talking about little bratty kids, which luckily we werent but theres no guarantee our kids/ grandkids wont be like it happened to clint eastwood in that movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5841&v=tB9ZJfNZSys&feature=youtu.be
>>12579153Hahahaha, as soon as I click it I hear Tim reading the name "Ice Wallow Come".
>>12578923>>12578926Anyone have that kissing booth edit of her some anon posted months back. It was hot.
>>12579153Topkek, the best part is he reads it twice because he wanted to make sure he was saying it correctly
>>12579041Incredibly based. Man's gotta eat. *sip*
>>12579134Kino
>>12579151i have a friend whose great grandfather on his mom's side was in the italian social republic's army and whose great grandfather on his dad's side was in the american army. crazy stuff. both were italian but his dad's side's family came to america in the 20s
>>12579153lmao
>>12579153Based
>>12579153>I can't help it
SN9 static fired 3 times in one day. Outstanding bro’s...she’s gonna make it.
>>12579217>winged boosterlame>expendable upper stagelameall about winged recoverable upper stages and propulsive landing boosters
>>12579217Starhopper will decide SN9's fate.
>>12578922diapers.
>>12579153Based anon
So, any bets on the pressure that the new Bopper is supposed to get to before it pops? They're moving to 3mm steel with it instead of the 4mm that the current starships are built with.
>>12579286would thinner steel have any effect on how much pressure it can take?
>>12579217I'm just fucking jazzed about the fact that enough bugs have been worked out and their process has gotten streamlined enough to make stuff like this possible. Remember when static fires would be delayed for days at a time?
>>12579294If their welding isnt up to snuff it'll pop sooner than 7.2 did. If it IS up to snuff it should match or beat 7.2's record.
>>12579296>Remember when static fires would be delayed for days at a time?Seems like just yesterday.
So despite all these successful tests, why hasn't Elon come out and said "next step SN9 flight! targeting this week!"Seems like they're not done yet...
>>12579304he said "good progress" so they must have broke something, or else he would flat out say success
Let’s be very honest, we don’t have a commercially available heavy-lift vehicle. The Starship may some day come about. It’s on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Starship, except that he's going to take three Raptors and put them together and that becomes the Starship. It's not that easy in rocketry.
>>12579304Elon is being quiet because they're gonna launch tomorrow in sync with New Shepard
>>12579311Let’s be very honest, we don’t have a commercially available heavy-lift vehicle. The Starship may some day come about. It’s on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Starship, except that he's going to take three Raptors and put them together and that becomes the Starship. It's not that easy in rocketry.
>>12579319It'd be better to pre-empt them by half an hour or so, nobody would even notice the second one.
>>12579311>Let’s be very honest, we don’t have a commercially available heavy-lift vehicle. The SLS may some day come about. It’s on the drawing board right now. Starship is real. You've seen it down at Boca Chica. We're perfecting landing Starship. We have all the Superheavy segments done, ready to be stacked in the High Bah... I don't see any hardware for SLS, except that he's going to extend the Shuttle External Tank and put engines below it and that becomes the SLS. It's not that easy in rocketry.
What is the solution if the header tanks cant be pressed by methane?
>>12579311Every time...
>>12579337argon
>>12579339JUST
>>125793391 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME2 NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>Please gib us more gibs
>>12579351Elon NO!
>>12579347>with no precedentThis is what happens when you haven't been to the moon for 50 years, people forget it happened.
>>12579347>Gubmint pls halp spacex man bully us
>>12579153>Space Camp
>>12579347>againWasn't Ariane begging for gibs just last month?
>>12579365>My name is Billy and I'm a gay retard>Congratulations! You're hired!>t. NASA
When is the SLS static fire supposed to happen, this weekend? I’m not even kidding: how much do you guys want to bet that it somehow, SOMEHOW, will slip to 2022. I really hope it does just because at this point it would be impressive to see how much boeing can get away with
>>12579376eric "inside source" berger already told us 2022 would be the year a year ago
>>12579376Saturday apparently. I hope it RUDs. The fucking money wasted already is beyond belief, just unplug the damn thing.
>>12579390If it RUDs then it's just an excuse for more test article contracts
there's a chance new shepard, sls hot fire, and sn9 all fire up on the same day, depending on what gets delayed
>>12579347>There is a very strong case to renew the public-private partnership around Ariane 6 and Vega C for this decadeI feel sick, he wants another decade of money being wasted on disposable garbage but I guess that's what happens when you deliberately kill every other European competitor to maintain your 40 year monopoly.
>>12579390Next core is almost ready iirc. A RUD would just delay the program further, not outright kill it. It may be a waste of money, but at least it's a wasteful attempt at manned lunar exploration instead of fucking around in LEO like the past half century.
>>12579398New Shepard 14 NET Jan 14thSN9 laumch NET Jan 15thSLS hot fire NET Jan 16th
>>12579404>A RUD would just delay the program further, not outright kill itFuck, well alright I grudgingly hope it works then.>>12579406What a week.
>>12579376Best of all is that for some reason, the solid rocket boosters which are being assembled right now, even tough theyre made of a technology that's literally known for having a long shelf life has some sort of flaw that makes it have an expiration date, that means that if htey dont launch in about a year from now, they have to DITCH THEM AND ASSEMBLE NEW ONESyes i know everything nasa does is beyond disbelief
>>12579400Europe seems full of examples like this. How the mighty have fallen, an utterly stagnant culture. The Romans could have been on the moon if only they'd realized the potential of the steam engine :/
>>12579413>Rome lasts long enough to get an industrial revolution by steamImagine
>>12579413Your country is next, prime example of late stage empire. Enjoy.
>>12579431What if he’s Chinese?
>>12579134>in just 2 minutes or so he's at your altitude>in a few seconds he's above yourockets are cool
>>12579434Then I hope he gets hit by a car.
>>12579041That's because they are psychologically conditioned to eat three times a day when they absolutely do not need to. 24 hours sitting in a couch expends exactly fuck all calories.
>>12579469Jealous?
>>12579485Projecting your feelings is not relevant.
>tfw SLS has been delayed for a static fire since 2014
What's the point of New Shepard getting "upgrades" with the next flight? Is that really what BO has been prioritizing, incremental upgrades to their dead end test article?
based on that first static fire shutdown earlier, and elon's lack of tweeting after inspection, i'm gonna predict at least one raptor gets replaced and they have to redo the campaign before flight
>>12579559They are going to fly civilians for sure. While it won't mean much for spaceflight in general it will be a huge PR boon for them (assuming they don't kill anyone).
>>12579559Who fuckin' knows. Old Blue seems like they are either playing 4D chess, or they are outright retarded. And I am inclined to believe it is the latter.
>>12579571my guess is that he finally came after the third one and then passed out
Out of all the exoplanetaty systems within a 500 lightyear radius, what ones are the best option to explore or colonize?
>>12579586Mars
>>12579586Unironically Proxima B
>>12579586the closest ones
https://imgur.com/nnv8q6S
>>12579594thank you anon, very nice, very cool
>>12579594Very nice!
>>12579593>>12579587Assume travel time isn't an issue.
>>12579601uhhh dunno, can you build me a bigger telescope first so I can look
>>12579592
>>12579594lol wrong ctrl+v sorry
>>12579571>after inspectionhe was at SN9 today?
>>12579586TRAPPIST-1 is by far the most comfy and only 40 light years away. Tiny system where the habitable areas are endless dusk/dawn, and your neighboring planets are huge in the sky.
>>12579594
>>12579594Dangerously based
>>12579607Nah, FK is good taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqRaa7WfIeUNSF's compilation shows all three static fires side by side at 7:00
>>12579610i dont think the planets would appear that much bigger. are there any sims of this?
>>12579612>>12579612>>12579614>>12579597>>12579600You thirsty boys might as well have the extra-spicy version too: https://i.imgur.com/9pjp6mS.png
What the fuck since when are furries allowed to post their shit here. Gas.
>>12579631>Space Vixen>Not Spaceflight relatedKrystal is the mascot of /sfg/, didn't you know?
>>12579631Since mods are asleep I guess, not that they usually bother cleaning up this general.
>>12579586Trappist 1 it has a very large selection of earth sized planets in very close orbits with each other and 1 of them are very likely to be earth like and even if it isn’t you still have plenty that choose from.It’s 39 light years away and the JWT is supposed to have it as one of it’s first targets to confirm what is already known.
>>12579603WTF is this actually proxima/alpha centauri? How was this taken? And what's the bar beneath it?
>>12579631Links don't count
>>12579639Saturn's rings. Not sure what captured that image.Here's one of the pair taken by Hubble though.I love these two photos, it really gives you the sense that they're just 'right over there'.
>furry pornCool spaceflight general
>>12579610They orbit a red dwarf and while it isn’t as active as most red dwarfs it’s still absolutely deadly to any atmosphere and these planets being tidally locked are almost certainly total shitholes.
>>12579644wow, thanks. I didn't know that was possible.
>>12579645seethe
>>12579651One more for you, the pair captured from New Horizon as it moved through the solar system.
>>12579658Yes I am seething about furries posting bestiality in totally irrelevant threads. Enjoy your ban.
If you could bring one person with you on a 8 month journey to Mars, who would it be?Pic related, too big for 4chan: https://static1.e621.net/data/4a/3b/4a3bc613ae9ddbe447330b23e545497f.png
>>12579662Lol have sex bro
>>12579668I would definitely kidnap the president and take him to Mars
>>12579662Anyone who isn't furry for Krystal is a fag. No exceptions.
>>12579672Ironic considering furries are the biggest fat fuck virgins of any demographic.
>>12579618The furthest planet from the star orbits at a distance less than half of the distance between mercury and the sun it’s like a fucking micro system
>>12579662>solo pics>bestiality
>>12579682Biggest projection slash cope i've seen on sfg
>>12579662Not like it matters, I'm sure that anon has been banned literally hundreds of times and it's never been a deterrent. There's really no consequences for anons with dynamic IPs or a VPN.>>12579668Nobody, the last thing I'd want on a voyage to Mars is some dork interrupting my thoughts with "WOW CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS HYUCK HYUCK!" A completely solo trip for me, thanks.>inb4 you'd go crazyMaybe you would niggerman, maybe you would.But not me.>>12579680I could drink enough to deal with the fur, it's the muzzle that throws my dick off-game.
Fact: Mars will be a couples-only planet due to Musk not wanting another Earth-style demographic collapse.
>>12579682>he doesn't know about the furry con orgiesImagine being more of a loser than furfags lmao
New bread is baking, waiting for page 10
>>12579688did somebody say cute engineering waifu matchmaking service?
>>12579688I elect Robert to work at the first Kinoplex on Mars
>>12579639It’s Alpha Centauri A and B, or their proper names, Rigil Kentaurus and Toliman. For comparison, those two stars are separated by about a Neptune’s orbit distance, so that image is IMO extremely useful for comprehending the scale of interstellar space.
>>12579683yes, but even still. i imagine they would def appear brighter, but even perseverance being so close to mars it is still tiny spot in the sky
>>12579688Elon unveils catgirls on the inaugural Starship Mars flight
>>12579687You’re genuinely a pedophile or just brainwashed by porn if you don’t consider hairy pussy ideal
>>12579687stinky dog breath for me
>>12579294Ignoring the welds and keeping stresses the same by [math]\sigma = \frac{Pr}{t}[/math] reducing thickness by a quarter also decreases maximum pressure by the same factor, meaning it would pop around 6 bar (vs 8 bar). That being said, idk how much safety margin they have, and how cyro affects everything.
>If this reporting is true that @US_SpaceCom HQ is going to move to Huntsville, the decision reeks of being politically motivated (taking jobs from a state that voted for Biden and moving them to a state that voted for Trump)>I don't see how relocating the headquarters, building new facilities, and moving all of these people improves our national security or our space capabilities>This will be a colossal waste of money. I hope it is one of the first things the new Pentagon leadership will reexamine once they are in placehttps://twitter.com/ToddHarrisonDC/status/1349424991851450370meanwhile motherfuckers who actually work in space command are relieved that they're getting out of nebraska, even if its to alabama
we need a Publix on MarsI don't think I can live without Publix Deli Chicken Tender Whole Subs washed down with some Publix Lemon Flavored Drink
>>12579707Publix is awesome because of the variety of cool foods they have; Chilean sea bass and even alligator meat
Why is /sfg/ full of so many furries?Go back to /trash/, all of you. Make your own furry /sfg/ there.
>>12579706HQ will be moved to an orbiting von braun station sooner or later
>>12579706it's actually about moving Space Force from an Air Force base to an Army base, so that Space Force isn't just a subdivision of the Air Force
>>12579713space command and space force are two different entities. space force hq will probably be in colorado.
>>12579711I hate anime, but I can tolerate furries. Maybe you're just a bigot? Ever thought of that...
>>12579701Yeah but that fur isn't supposed to extend around the rest of the body anon. Again not a deal-breaker so much as the weird facial structure.>>12579703Yeah that too, gross.>>12579707Is 'lemonade' trademarked or something?
>>12579718Furries are irritating primarily because they are a lot more likely to be sexual deviants.
>>12579711It's just one gigasperg. Report and ignore him.
>>12579711If you can't even handle anthropomorphic pussy then you'll never make it through humanity's subjugation by lusty female aliens that will kill any male that refuses to drain his balls into them several times per day.It's going to happen, so fapping to Krystal is the least you could do to start prepping.
secret furfag general. every time.
>>12579594>>12579619>>12579668For me it's femWolf.
Did SN9 get hurt? Will they have to replace a Raptor?
>>12579725If aliens exist there’s zero guarantee they’ll have anything like earth sex differentiation.
>>12579721you dont think people that watch children's cartoons are fucked in the head?
>>12579732You don't know, they might all be Star Trek aliens. Probably won't be, but we won't know until we find some.
>>12579720no, but Lemon Flavored Drink is decidedly not lemonadewe do sell some actual Lemonade but we're not about to pretend that Lemon Flavored Drink is part of thatwho knows why the fuck people buy some of the nasty shit on our shelves
Furfags keep moving this is an alien waifu board
>>12579730the first shutdown was rather rough
>>12579735Cartoons, including anime, aren’t inherently a medium for children and never really have been.
>>12579727I personally like renamon's thick thighs
>>12579697>>12579618https://www.space.com/35811-life-on-trappist-1-earth-like-exoplanets.html>In some cases, a neighboring planet might appear twice as large as the full moon seen from Earth.
>>12579743That’s surreal as hell
for me it's Lixpo
>>12579735
>>12579740I'm talking about manchildren too, mr. pedantic
>>12579644I'm pretty sure that even in this photo, the actual stars are but small dots. Even our closest neighbors are still very far away. But stars are bright as fuuuuuuuuuuck so they create a huge lensing effectAs a side note I went down an autistic rabbit hole last year and did a bunch of wikipedia binging on close stars that have been directly imaged. Besides Betelgeuse, I think Antares looks really good. You can see the differences that form on the surface
>>12579748Wait hol' up, let me go get my magnifying glass for this one
>>12579750doesn't Betelgeuse look like it's boiling
>>12579644Is that Hoppy?
>furfags samefagging it up to pretend there are lots of them when it's always one pedo spergEverytime. New thread when.
Fuck it I'm tired and had this shit baking for 15 minutesDerail abort>>12579751>>12579751>>12579751
>>12579758the furfag sperg isn't a pedo
>>12579752Yeah, better get those glasses ready grandpa
>>12579406Come on Starship, I want to see you carrying payloads to orbit with 100% reusability before SLS flies.Being cheaper to fly than an SLS booster is just icing on the cake.
>>12579704>Ignoring the weldsYour fallacy is assuming the tank strength was solely limited by the thickness of the metal. The 8 bar limit was due to weld strength, not the sheet metal, therefore you can't scale it based on change in metal thickness.