/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12540144
How do I increase raw intelligence?

>Message to sticky author anon: Are you compiling useful information from these threads for updating the sticky? If not, I could do-so and send a formatted doc. for input. Please let me know if that is something of which you would like.

What's currently hot in Aus?
t. euroid

Also >>12529661

Any other entrepreneurial /sci/entists here?

I want to automate farming and food production or at the very least make the current process as efficient as possible with the help of AI.

Thoughts? Input? Ideas?

>>12540161
Firstly, Wrong thread. Secondly, there is absolutely no compelling evidence of that being possible. You can prolong the period until your fluid IQ begins decreasing (naturally occurs with age), but increasing IQ cannot happen.

>>12540166
Come to America friend.
It's the lad of milk and honey

>>12540170
Why would I want to downgrade

>>12540158
Bye bye UK, now Canada and US are my best friends

>>12540172
I hope you're not being serious. It's honestly your loss. Oh well.

I don’t know what to study I just want to work later on edge cutting-edge technologies and solve challenging problems.
What do you recommend brothers ?

>>12537827 any more insight into CS vs signal processing?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/368593.The_4_Hour_Workweek
Is this legit??

What's a marketable degree related to medicine? I'm very interested in medicine and biochemistry (I study it of my volition), but I hate the whole dealing with patients thing. What are some alternative career paths?

>>12540187
>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/368593.The_4_Hour_Workweek
That's a self-help book aimed at entrepreneurs, business owners, and people who work for themselves. It has pretty sound logic. Don't expect for you to have a 4 hour work week if you're a lab cuck or some poorfag academic though.

Anyone working at FAGMAN in

>>12540207

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I cant decide between biochemistry and bioinformatics. Which of these two has the better future job development and enables me to do research on bacteriophages?

>>12540182
If you are dead set on working on cutting-edge technologies then study CS or EE and hope you are at the top. And I don't mean top of your class, I mean top 0.00001% in the entire world. Otherwise it won't happen.

So focus.

How's FAGMAN in the UK like?

>>12540207
I hate to break it to you anon but if anyone on this shithole of a board tells you that they work at FAGMAN what you're most likely dealing with is a delusional college CS freshman typing from his dorm. My sides.

More like finance career general.

I went to a PhD program because I couldn't give a shit about the types of job discussed here (code monkey, consultant, patent attorney, accountant, hedge fund person, whatever; you get the picture). Of course, a lot of those are also very competitive and I probably wasn't getting them in the first place. Meanwhile, research was always what really interested me and I got a place at a good university with an advisor who wasn't the biggest name but was very pleasant to work with.

A few years later, my advisor was forced to leave and then corona happened. My research has been fucked to hell, every plan I had was scrapped and I'll be lucky to scrape together a PhD but it won't have much "extra" that would make me stand out later. So I think an academic career is not an option and in any case it's become apparent to me that the end game is basically to become an administrator, these responsibilities taking more and more time the further you go and I don't want that.

So then I'm looking at the same jobs as I was straight out of undergrad, equally disinterested in them but now my CV is what you'd expect from a once-aspiring academic who sucks. I'm thinking I'll invest in rope, there isn't really anything I want to do and every option seems bad.

I also don't really need advice but just wanted to vent.

>>12540285
Poetic justice

Has anyone here done Fundamental Research at DE Shaw or similar firms? What's the work like and how difficult is it to get accepted?

>>12540285
That's the problem with academia. Current administrations have too much power compared to professors. You can guarantee that while corona happened and everything was disrupted, they protected themselves. No administrator got fired (despite a lower income meaning the first thing you need cut is bloated administration), some of them may have been gotten raises this year.

You need to work in an institution made of your peers, not people who see you as literal garbage to be used. Academia is now dead. What did your get your PhD in? Your career may still be saved.

>>12540307
Do you really think that someone who works at one of the top quant hedge funds would really be posting on /sci/?

>>12540311
Oh sorry I was talking about the fundamental research internship, not the job itself.

>>12540311
You seem naive. Precisely why do you think that people with quantifiable success wouldn't occasionally visit a Mongolian spearfishing image board?

I'm math undergrad and I'm tired of this e-learning, boomers and their earraping microphones.
Some classes are fine, but overall I feel like I'm wasting time, I don't know if there is an alternative for me though.
Should I drop and wait until this is over?

>>12540344
Just leave the earphones as it is and do your own math

>>12540333
They're unironically on reddit or Wall Street/finance related discussion forums you jerk off.

Is it worth it to get a degree in Business Administration? Because everything else that my state university is offering is something that I'm not entirely interested in, something that I'll have to buy equipment for, or it doesn't really feel like that the jobs for it doesn't exist in my region

>>12540350
There's no reason why Wall Street bros wouldn't find themselves here considering there is a plethora of Ivy League anons who frequent this board.

>>12540333
Not him but those people frequent more consistently WallstreetOasis.

It's filled with the same kind of spergs you see on /sci/ but instead of science they talk about finance all day. They are also considerably wealthier so take that for what it's worth.

>>12540307
Can someone answer my question?

There is no reason why undergrad courses have to be taught by researchers.

>>12540275
Lol what a retard
>>12540182
Anything but not math or physics, because everyone there needs to do phd just to be employable, so you won't stand out.
And try to climb using connections

How do I get research internship as an undergrad at a university other than my own?

>>12540464
I don't have experience in this because I only have one proximal university (my own), but I would suggest emailing professors of interest. Are you currently assisting with research at your own institution? If so, perhaps ask your PI if they have any suggestions of professors to contact. In any case, always be well-versed in the professors research prior to establishing contact, and have questions prepared to indicate that you have a genuine interest in their work.

>>12540144
hey guys, I am a senior majoring in economics. Been looking into some fields to specialize and doing my after-graduate studies.

Was thinking to get into the economics behind green energy or automation. Do you think these fields are viable? Any other recommendations?

>>12540464
If you are American look into REUs (Research Experience for Undergraduates) sponsored by the NSF (National Science Foundation).

>>12540308
>What did your get your PhD in?
Physics, although practically what I do is somewhere in the physics/chemistry/materials intersection. My background is also in physics. The topic itself is very applied (though too identifiable so won't go into specifics), and my work is predominantly experimental and focused on spectroscopy. I've also done some computational work as a side project but that has been less active recently. I'm shit at programming and I've done less maths than I'd like which is bad for most of the usual physicist escape routes. I don't think anyone in this industry cares for doing in-depth spectroscopy so that's kind of useless also. On the plus side it's a top 5-10 global uni.

>>12540464
Don't listen to >>12540474

>>12540530 is right. All of the top universities in the US have REU (or similarly titled) programs.
Reach out to your undergraduate major advisor and ask if there are any curated lists of such programs made by your University. I actually might still have mine, it would be from early 2016 but most of the programs probably still exist. I'd be willing to post the program names in this thread if you want.

Outside of REUs at universities, there are also summer research programs at places like NASA and the various National Labs; those are very much worth looking into as well.

Good luck. I personally had 6 months of volunteer (unpaid and not for credit) half-time research experience when I applied to pretty much every major REU & government-sponsored research internship in the country. I ended up being rejected from everywhere but two places: an interview offer from NASA and a guaranteed offer of an REU at a top 10 school, so I took the latter.

If you have more research experience than I did, you'll have an easier time getting accepted to these programs. Personally doing a summer REU was what enabled me to then get into a paid undergraduate researcher role for the final 2 years of my undergrad.

Supervisor is dropping hints that he wants me for PhD
Did I make it or is it a trap?

>>12540179
sorry mutt you got BTFO

>>12540530
>>12540557
Not American ((

>>12540464
I have only heard about such things if one prof asks his buddies at another university. So ask somebody local whether he knows somebody working on X, e.g., the Prof you want to visit, because you would love to work/write your thesis/suck dick on X but it seems to be a bit outside his focus. Then the local prof will establish contact. That will help you because his involvement makes sure you are not a waste of time.

>>12540557
>Don't listen to the answer that is applicable to literally everybody, including Americans! Take this answer that is specific to only Americans.
Directly contacting professors is a perfectly reasonable method of obtaining lab experience. I have been getting paid for research from 3 unique labs at my university since second year through precisely that action.

From the other thread:
>>12540580
>Do you have any sort of demonstrated programming background, or at least some entry level computer science classes completed?
Yes absolutely. I have strong academic record and programmed in internships.
>It seems far more likely to me that they don't think your skills would be valuable in an applied sense.
I have all the skills listed as desired in job descriptions and more. It really is that a hiring manager can't justify a low GPA applicant over a high GPA applicant who likely has the same skillset. I don't blame him I mean why would you?

>>12540643
>at my university
He's asking about other universities, that is very different. E.g., in my country we are not allowed to pay students who are enrolled at a university in another federal state.

>>12540675
He didn't specify paid research though. I interpreted his question as seeking an internship for the explicit purpose of experience, with a wage being a bonus. You're right, in that wages can only be earned from the university you are currently enrolled in or a specific government backed program which you've applied to.

>>12540643
Directly contacting professors at external universities is not a reasonable method of getting lab experience as an undergraduate.
Let's say Prof Smith accepts you to come to his lab at MIT, in a way entirely not sponsored by the university. This means you're gonna have to find your own housing.

Then in >>12540699 you change the goalposts to say that you interpreted his message as unpaid research all along, despite your previous post mentioning nothing but paid research.

Do you honestly expect any average college student to be able to afford moving expenses and a 3-4 month lease in a new city, while unpaid and lacking any real support or connections through an official school-sponsored program?

Your advice doesn't apply unless you have wealthy parents who will pay for your rent and living expenses while you slave away earning nothing. The entire time knowing that you could have applied to REUs instead, with free housing and a monthly stipend.

>>12540183
There is an important cultural difference here:
DSP is done by EE people, including designing DSP chips. it is a world fairly distant from CS. DSP is typically embedded with limited resources, hard real time requirements and requires specialised skills to make the most out of the system. Much is made in Matlab etc. but critical parts are still handcrafted in assembly code. Compilers just cannot compete with these people and they are correspondingly well paid for this skill set. Starting a project by dragging in 2 MB boilerplate libraries is quite unacceptable.

>>12540582
Ah shit sorry. I honestly don't know much of anything about how academia works outside of the US.

>>12540144
How useful would it be to do research as an undergrad? I'm from a third world country, and have the opportunity to do a research paper that might get punlished in an IEEE congress (for students). Would this add considerable weight in my CV when applying to continue with a Masters or PhD in a foreign university? Or should I do it just for the experience? Or it isn't worth the time, it being a student paper, and I should focus on other things? Thanks.

I HAVE A MATH AND CS DEGREE TELL ME WHAT TO DO TO HAVE A GOOD JOB

>>12540307
>Fundamental Research at DE Shaw
Have a mate who was a Shaw, but for quant trading. He only got a 2:1 from his uni (albeit was Oxbridge) and got in so you don't need to be summa at tier 1 apparently.
I would prolly say its still mad difficult to get accepted.
Shaw is a quant shop so their fundamental dept is probably hot garbage compared to some of the big GM and multistrat boys tho.

>>12540362
Like a bachelors? Probably not. You’d be better off getting an engineering degree and then getting an MBA later on. That’s kind of what I’m doing except I have a geology degree.

>>12540752
All of the potential snags that you mention are assuming that he is seeking free internships/volunteering positions at institutions outside of his immediate region. My response was clearly pertaining to applying to universities which are proximal to his current home (in which additional finances aren't a factor). You clearly also don't know the specificities of the institutions of which the anon is applying to (nor do I), so why behave as if my input is somehow assumed to be not applicable? My point of sharing that cold-contacting professors resulted in numerous research assistant positions is to illustrate that cold-contacting is a perfectly valid action. The pay is irrelevant, besides further illustrating that the professors were clearly receptive to receiving the contact.

>The entire time knowing that you could have applied to REUs instead, with free housing and a monthly stipend.
He already reported that he isn't American.

>>12540772
If you want to do a PhD anywhere, especially a foreign university, you should be trying to stack up as much research experience as possible. It is by far the most important thing in determining PhD admissions, way more important than grades or extracurriculars. The paper certainly won't hurt, even if it's just a student-level thing.

If you want to just get a bachelor's and go directly into industry, however, research experience isn't very valuable and you'd be better off seeking an industry internship.

>>12540464
I interviewed for a research job at my uni one summer and didn't get it. But I apparently was second and out of the blue he recommended me to his buddy at a nearby uni in the same city. It was essentially without an interview because he needed someone quickly like anon said >>12540634.

Life eh?

>>12540201
>>12540263

bump as i am also interested.

I want to do a master in bioinformatics, i already work in IT. Is it in high demand ?

From last thread:
>>12529206
>That office is getting smaller every year. Those 60k are being destroyed as universities catch-on to the game of hiring people as adjuncts for 2-year contracts and therefore never putting their people in the tenure track so they can avoid giving out promotions. That research post is getting more and more bureaucratic as bloated administrations pay 10 guys to check how many papers you have published instead of the quality of your research and teaching.
I see this at several universities around here. Most people are eternal postdocs on 2 or 3 year contracts, unfilled professorships exist formally but, somehow, has no funding attached, not even for salary. Reality is that the normal pyramid structure is replaced with a "T" with a thin, tall column of short term employees and a huge top bar filled with 60+ year old professors who effectively keep all the salaries for themselves.

A few years ago I mailed a friend from the student days in this situation, with a vague promise of a professorship becoming available "soon". Meanwhile zero job security. Seems he took my letter to his professor and made an ultimatum. He didn't get a professorship but at least he got a permanent contract.

>>12540144
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
Updated to version 1.4 with inputs from fellow anons. Thanks for the assistance, more input and adjustments are of course welcome.
Here is hoping the best for the new year.

anons with PHD's in chemistry/biochemstry?

or know of others with phd's in chem/biochem,
>is this more profitable than engineering?
i'm scared to go the chem/biochemist phd route because I want a medium-high salary but in an ideal, perfect world i'd want to be a drug researcher with a nice life.

>>12541243
Also interested in hearing more regarding this
t. 3rd year biochem undergraduate student

>>12541243
>or know of others with phd's in chem/biochem,
I know one, she is now an European patent attorney. What do you want to know?

>>12540757
That sounds cool and as a reason to go for DSP.
Everyone around says go TCS, but I feel weird about studying
>theoretical
>CS
(don't think I'll ever be able to become a researcher, not that I'd want to)
Just can't actually pick one.

>>12541217
Your work is applauded, anon. Thank you for your ongoing contributions!

>>12540782
Get a portfolio fgt.

>>12540362
If you can pull off a double major with Math or CS then avoid it like the plague. If you double majored Accounting / Finance with Math then it could be useful for management roles otherwise just avoid it.

You can't translate management and one of the few useful concentrations, accounting is better off being done in grad school.

How is the job market for life sciences (biology, biotechnology, food engineering, and the like) in places like Europe or Asian Tigers. I was actually thinking of doing CS, but after spending about three hours studying Python my eyes and head hurt a lot, so I decided doing something less computer intensive.

How do you enter the oil and gas industry in the UK with a chemistry degree?

>>12540201
Listen to me on this. My gf is premed and has gotten into 12 med schools so far. She did business with a minor in chem. Granted she has a 4.0, but she said that it is unique and opens a lot of doors for if she wanted to work in a corporate environment.

>>12540814
So, what goes on in Engineering?

I'm thinking on getting into electrical engineering, but I'm a poorfag with no tools and my State's universities aren't giving out a description of the classes without me enrolling

You're not gonna make it in a startup if you're obsessed with how much money you might earn.

You should only do it because you see a technology that can make an impact and it needs full attention without corporate overhead to develop. As soon as you start doing it for the money or clout or to be like Elon Musk you're gonna stop thinking critically about the garbage you're making.

T. Getting real fucking frustrated with my colleagues

>>12542407
If you're looking to employ someone who's a global-level expert with 8 years of higher education undertaken at debt or minimum wage in the best case you can't really demand charity work just because you think they should be some monk looking out for the world and the bank account of whatever sleazebag is running the startup.

>>12542433
I am talking about founders, retard, not employees.

>>12540411
What if you double major EE with applied physics?

>>12540411
>Anything but not math or physics, because everyone there needs to do phd just to be employable
Only if they want jobs in math and physics. Otherwise they can easily get coding jobs.

>>12540144
Hey /sci/, I couldnt find an appropriate thread so I figured I'd ask in here.

I'm trying to familiarize myself with some circuitry knowledge in preparation for an aptitude test.

https://sciencing.com/calculate-amperage-series-circuit-6387840.html
This site is showing me Ohm's law as V = I/R

Yet, wikipedia shows me that V = I (R), which is what I've been under the assumption of.

The first site appears to be well put together, so I'm just wondering if I am missing something here, if the equation is different for a certain type of circuit, or if the first site is just incorrect.

The more I look at the two different equations, the more likely I know my brain is going to fuck up when it comes up on the test as I am not a smart man. So I was hoping one of you sulcuous brained fellows could set it straight for me.

What university degree should you get if you think low level programming and hardware are cool

>>12540263
bioinformatics has better career prospects, but less likelihood of involvement with bacteriophages

>tfw didn't know how important internships are for getting jobs/research positions until recently
>about to graduate with a master's in engineering
>zero internships
>zero work experience
How fucked am I? Should I try to do a PhD and get some internships during that?

>>12540144
Im interested in startups and making the big bucks, How can I narrow down my interests lads?:

Mechanical
Materials
Electrical
Aerospace
CS
Applied Physics
Economics

>>12541243
>>12541282
Both engineering and "pure science" degrees are valid for this route. At my former employer (top 5 global pharma company) at the research HQ they hired chem, biochem, chemical engineering, even materials science degrees. All at the same starting pay (170k). They care very little about major field of study. What matters is general level of accomplishments, and how relevant your specific niche of research is to the position in question.

So figure out what you want to end up doing in industry. And take whatever major will be most conducive to supporting research related to your desired career.

One option is to look up PhD-level job openings in that area on LinkedIn and Indeed. Read about the type of work they're doing, and look for things that both
1. interest you
and
2. seem to be established as in-demand or up-and-coming


t. chemical engineering B.S. who got baited into taking a 3-year contract in a shitty brainlet-tier engineering "consulting" role at a pharma company.

Don't worry though, the pharma PhD roles are great. It's what inspired me to go back for a doctorate, although for ethical reasons due to some stuff I witnessed, I'm not really interested in returning to pharma at all.

How marketable is a bs of Physics really

>>12543036
no

>>12542407
god, thank you anon. i relate to this so much. i co-founded a startup around 2 years ago. in the beginning, it was pure cutting-edge science purely for the sake of innovating and proving the technology possible. and I love the work. i feel like I'm actually contributing to new discoveries which have never been deeply explored by humans before.

Now that it *is* proven as a concept, and being developed into a preliminary commercial product, I feel that the underlying dynamic has changed. The more business-minded people are apt to assume "well we already proved it, so the rest is just tweaking things from here". It's like they can't grasp the concept that being commercialization-ready, from a tech standpoint, will take an entire year if not two or three.

I completely understand that partnership deals and investor inquiries can make founders and owners excited about the possibilities of the future. But when it gets in the way of the scientific progress, this can create a destructive feedback loop.

When I took this job, I made $31K of base cash pay per year. Now my salary is a bit over double that. Even if this company died tomorrow and my equity became worthless, I would still be immensely fulfilled about the work I had done. And satisfied with myself for what I achieved. I'd have plenty to show for it too; multiple patents under my belt and a ton of valuable experience.

This tech could truly change the world in the coming decades. If not directly through our startup, then through some future competitor who we inspire. I don't understand the obsession over acquisition, etc.

(1/2)

>>12542407
>>12543087
(2/2)
In my case, I co-founded the business but I by no means own a large share, not even double digits. I'm not even 30 yet and I live a pretty frugal life. Even if the company sold for $200K it would be a bigger windfall than I've ever experienced in my life, bigger than any bonus I've gotten from a corporate job.
So when the financial people start road mapping targets in the millions, it's almost overwhelming for me to even entertain that thought.

So I just tune everything out and keep myself grounded about the things that truly matter to me: perfecting the current science and gaining as much knowledge as possible to further innovate.

On a per-hour basis I perform 95-97% of our commercially-funded technical research. So I at least have a lot of control over where things go in that regard. I also feel a lot of responsibility for the success, but I've grown confident in my ability to make the science work as long as there are no major interruptions.

I know that if my company dies, I'll be innovating and making discoveries in my basement for years to come. Maybe it's delusions of grandeur, but I'm confident that there will someday be millions or even billions of products implementing these scientific discoveries that my colleagues and I have made in the last several years.

Godspeed, anon. I hope that those dumbfucks straighten out their perspective and that your company succeeds greatly. More importantly, I hope that you remain fascinated and engaged with cutting-edge stuff regardless of how things go with the startup.

>TLDR
The world needs more people who will drive things forward instead of settling into the status quo in exchange for a comfortable albeit mediocre existence. But to truly commit to such a thing, you need to be willing to dedicate yourself to it. It almost needs to become a lifestyle in itself. And if you're in it for the money (beyond what you need to survive) then you're not gonna make it.

>>12542407
Also, I'm curious. Would you be willing to talk about your background and/or what industry you're working in and what you specifically study?

>i'll go first, but I understand if you don't want to reveal that info
I did a B.S. in ChemE with a minor in CS, and then got more into CS over time. Now I do software engineering and develop electronic hardware in tandem with that software. But it's all extremely niche stuff, the type of technology I develop is not currently widely studied or implemented due to high up-front cost of the necessary equipment.
The work we do is extremely confidential, and I can't even get into the "why" without revealing too much. But I will say:
The startup is in the field of robotics and automation
My specific projects primarily involve electromagnetic radiation, digital signal processing, and statistics

Thanks for your original post, it inspired me to talk about this stuff and maybe more anons will be interested in discussing. and sorry for so many separate replies.

>in case anyone actually reads this and is curious, I am very willing to answer questions from anons regarding the startup "industry" in general, as well as how to get involved with this stuff. I'm not hoping to go into much more personal detail, but I'll happily give vague anecdotes.

>>12543118
>>12543118

>>12543054
How about Chemistry

>>12543123
please, PLEASE take your bullshit somewhere else. i really couldn't care less about your opinions. i don't think you're a bad person nor unintelligent, nor even necessarily incorrect. But this is a STEM career advice thread.

And please don't reply with some bullshit about how your thread is relevant to STEM career discussion. It is clearly not relevant to the topics at hand in any genuine manner, nor is it the reason that anons enter these threads in the first place. You and I both know that there are many other threads on this board which are more conducive to your posts.

these threads are some of the last remaining places where one can find some productive discussion and honest advice. Please don't take that away from us.

I want to be a programmer. Which of these degrees
>Computer Science
>Electrical Engineering
>Computer Engineering
>Math
will open the most doors for me?
>inb4 >>>/g/

>>12543117
Thoughts on the importance of location and proximity to investors in the success of a startup?

>>12543117
What sort of candidates are you willing to hire at your startup? What should be the expected profile?

>>12543176
Experience shows that both are important, which is why Silicon Valley has been such a roaring success.
With Corona and the exodus from San Francisco things are becoming very uncertain, and Texas might become a hotspot.

>>12543147
computer engineering.

>>12543270
ty

>>12543258
Interesting, thanks for replying. I'm not from the US so my perception of Texas is basically just cowboys. What's the reasoning behind Texas becoming a hotspot?

>>12543087
>>12543096
>>12543117
Whoa, thanks for the thorough response. What you said gives me consolation I am not alone. I am only a university graduate in engineering, and I was invited by some friends who wanted to found a startup that will solve a major environmental problem that will get worse in the future, and wanted me to design the technology. I never wanted to be fully tied into it, just get some experience, but they convinced me to become a co-founder, because otherwise it would be too hard to compensate me for my work. As the business case for the environmentally-friendly work became less likely, we suddenly changed direction to use the same technology for a money-making purpose. At first I was happy with this since it might actually succeed, but as I studied the tech, I realised it does not really suit this purpose, and the other co-founders did not think it through, because they were focusing on finding anything to justify the startup's existence, even though there's no technologically sound purpose behind it. They still do things like:
>road mapping targets in the millions
Which to me also seems overwhelming, but for the stage we're in, foolish and concerning. I would happy take $50-60k as a salary, and sell a company off for $200,000, as with that money I can just buy a house and not worry about losing a roof over my head if I don't work.

There is a niche field of traditional engineering I am truly interested in though, which directly ties into what I studied, and I am collaborating with someone else on doing a feasibility study, maybe a startup from it. Its looking better at the moment.

Your experience sounds awesome though. I am curious, how long did you go before any kind of income came in, how many years after graduating did you co-found the startup, and how difficult was it to make patents? I have ideas for some, but without doctorate qualifications and money to experiment I don't know how I will verify them.

>>12542196
Geology

Is a MS in optimization a good idea career-wise?

>>12540263
If you're interested in biochemistry, a PhD in chemical biology would be very employable.

>>12540201
There are tons of paths in drug discovery. For interests in biochemistry, I would say a chemical biology PhD. Work on clinically relevant problems, but the background and approaches would satisfy your interests. No patient care.

>>12541243
For salary and lifestyle, I would go industry. Downside is that it is volatile, in pharma you can be laid off at a moment's notice when the MBAs and the higher-ups, eh, "restructure". In biotech, the mechanics are different because companies are smaller and are pivoting, but you're out of a job all the same. And, quicker at that.

Generally, synthetic/medicinal chemistry is going to be less employable, because industry is going to outsource synthesis. Reason being: companies would rather disclose their synthesis over their targets. Chemical biology will be more employable, for the same reason. Industry likes to do target ID/validation in-house. Also, industry science positions will tend to be more technique-focused than discipline-focused, especially at smaller biopharma and biotech, e.g. any biophysicist in industry better know SPR.

What can you actually do with a MechE degree

>>12543126
Do you want to be a high school teacher?

>>12540557
>paid undergraduate researcher role for the final 2 years of my undergrad
do murikans really?

>>12544263
>murikans
I am a leaf. What's wrong with paid undergraduate research assistant jobs?

>>12544273
nothing is wrong, anon. i'm just surprised that you worked as a research assistant with a stipend for the last 2 years of your undergrad. that's quite an experience, huh?

>>12544281
It is good experience, and I imagine it looks better on a CV than simply volunteering in a laboratory. At the beginning of each semester professors seeking research assistants publish postings for positions with either a 40 hour or 80 hour contract that last the duration of the semester. It might not sound like much, but on-top of regular coursework and an honours thesis, it's quite a lot. As you can imagine, they are pretty difficult to acquire based on the student to PI ratio. The pay is $16 CAD per hour, so not tremendous pay, however, great considering that I would be eager to volunteer anyways.

I can't decide if I should be a code monkey or actuary in this third world shithole. What should I pick anons? Actuary seems cool and I can do maths most of the time. On the other hand I am a CS major and I have a lot of catching up to do (not much compared to other mathfags here).

>>12540144

Since taking Organic Chemistry I've cultivated a strong interest in the subject, and find myself reading synthesis papers like an autist. Reading about how brutal graduate life is and the low prospects in the field has been really depressing though. What are some good adjacent fields that have a lot of crossover?

I'm not entirely opposed to doing a PhD just turned off from one in Organic Synthesis

>>12544774
biochemistry

>>12544774
Get a phd, do a year of grad level stuff then drop out w/ your masters
Do medchem with just your masters
>reading synthesis papers like an autist
I highly recommend looking up patents for random medications, those guys do some cool shit

>>12544774
Chemical biology.

How do you decide what to go back to school for?
Graduated with a Bs in CS, worked for a bit, but now I want to do something else. Im between fields like EE Math and Physics
At this point I dont care about making a lot of money, I just want to do something interesting for a living
I was thinking of looking at potential jobs and getting up to date with papers/research in the different fields. What else can I do?

>>12541217
Anon, by the way in your "Management Consultancies" section you should really expand on the firms. Hardly anyone is going to be able to get into a T1 firm, or what's called MBB (McKinsey, BCG, and Bain). Also in your description, note the lack of the last B in MBB, Bain.
Tier 2 and 3 firms are still great and lead to incredible exit strategies. You can easily google the tiers online. Generally MBB is tier 1, Accenture, AtKearney, OliverWyman, etc are tier 2, and the MC divisions of the big 4 accounting firms are tier 3. Again, the tiers are easily searchable.
The important factor about MBB is that they are considered purely management. So if you for instance are good at data science, you would be brought into Accenture on their tech side. At McKinsey you would be matriculated into their newest class the same as everyone else but would be staffed on their data science projects since that is in your skillset.

Besides being considered the most prestigious section of all consulting roles, the benefit of management consulting is the fast track to management and exit strategies. In industry it might take someone 5 to even 10 years to reach senior management. Whereas in any management consulting firm you are pretty much guaranteed senior manager by 5, and the higher the tier the quicker that happens. At McKinsey, for instance it's possible to make senior manager in as little as 2 years. Over the years you will have built connections at various companies, again the higher tiers will have better clients, and you can decide to jump ship into industry at senior manager or just manager if you really hate consulting (many do).

>undergrad chemist
>mostly passionate about labwork
>never was too enthusiastic about the science itself, though its not like I dont learn it or anything
>covid hits when I'm taking spectrometry and instrumental analysis
>get sham grades that mean nothing since I was never grew competent in the instrumentation, especially in spec
>fall comes around and the social distanced labs are a complete joke
>lab reports are a complete joke
>barely pass pchem because I'm retarded
>feel like I've stagnated and wasted my time pursuing this shit
I dont even have high aspirations. I just want to get a BA and analyze wastewater, if not just some kind of work as a lab technician to improve my practice. I doubt any employers even want covid graduates anyway; I feel like a complete fraud.

>>12545509
Editor reporting in.
>Anon, by the way in your "Management Consultancies" section you should really expand on the firms.
I'd love to but I have relied on second hand information plus comments from here. More is needed.
>Hardly anyone is going to be able to get into a T1 firm, or what's called MBB (McKinsey, BCG, and Bain). Also in your description, note the lack of the last B in MBB, Bain.
I was not aware of them, will add.
>Tier 2 and 3 firms are still great and lead to incredible exit strategies. You can easily google the tiers online. Generally MBB is tier 1, Accenture, AtKearney, OliverWyman, etc are tier 2, and the MC divisions of the big 4 accounting firms are tier 3. Again, the tiers are easily searchable.
I'll add this too. And what is "MC"? I am not familiar with this one.
>The important factor about MBB is that they are considered purely management. So if you for instance are good at data science, you would be brought into Accenture on their tech side. At McKinsey you would be matriculated into their newest class the same as everyone else but would be staffed on their data science projects since that is in your skillset.
Yes, I would like to present this material with the readers in mind: people transitioning from /sci/ careers into consultancies.

>>12545561
BS FUCK

>>12545564
>what is "MC"? I am not familiar with this one.
That's just an abbreviation of "management consulting", sorry if that was unclear. I didn't realize how much I text dumped until after.

>>12545039

I'd like to do medchem but it seems like a shrinking specialty for little reward - of course they're still neccessary but biotech is slowly moving away from small molecule stuff. And if I don't have a Phd I have to compete with the glut of chemists who have a PhD and probably post doc as well just to make under 6 figures starting. That's why I'm inquiring about adjacent work. Chemical Biology is the first thing tbag comes to mind but considering I like synthesis and mechanism maybe I could go for pharmacology or computational identification of drug targets or something. If my preconceptions of med chem is wrong feel free to correct me

>>12545564
Another clarification, when I said MBB is purely management I meant they are purely strategy.

Management consulting has many facets which have one thing in common... yup management. Management consulting subsumes strategy consulting, which is the most prestigious section of MC. There are other sections of MC like technology, risk management, advisory (often financial, sometimes strategy), or IT.

>>12545561

If you just want to be a tech you'll do fine as long as you're willing to move. There's always a pretty steady demand for QC roles. I landed one with decent starting pay at a pharma company with an A.S. Shit hours though. If you wanna feel more prepared read some documentation for an instrument for hplc and just lie about it. You only have to be smart enough to follow a procedure correctly in an entry level role anyway. It's the non QC jobs that are hard to get.

I made a thread a while ago about being reluctant in pursuing MechE

>Why is it my area of interest?
I am a visual learner and had a hard on for combustion engines as a child
I like how it's the most broad field of engineering so I can work on any machinery related industries be it defense, automotive, energy, resources and space etc.

On top of that, I was the top student for my industrial design class in hs which involved Autodesk/CAD and I am Keenly interested in applied physics (thermo/fluid dynamics,nanotechnology, material science)

>What exactly do I want to be doing with the degree when I get it?
I know this sounds very unlikely for an entry level but I am interested in automating manual labour jobs, help develop the new cutting edge propulsion systems and ev motors. Working with a diverse range of experts e.g physicists, programmers, other engineering majors would be helpful.
But dear god I would not withstand working in HVAC writing instructions all day https://youtu.be/WMVb-5Mpq8M
However
I don't mind switching to EE or even CS (higher paygrade, flexibility, working conditions) but I didn't have a knack for coding as a kid and couldn't picture myself doing that for the next 10 years.

>where do I currently live?
Aussie but willing to move to the states...

>>12540207
I work at Microsoft. Used to work at Amazon. Too lazy to prove it, but w/e. It's not that glorious honestly, I wish I lived in a smaller town and worked for a small (but still moderately successful) company desu.

I'm in my final year for CS and want to get more into hardware with EE or CompE maybe with an MSc, but I didn't have much formal experience with it in my undergrad and it seems most schools require some EE already.
Kind of feels like it's hard to pivot out of CS once you're in it, while anyone with engineering or maths has a bunch of conversion courses available.

>>12546691
just get a job working with hardware? Anyone who wants you working on FPGAs will get you the requisite experience unless you mean actually building boards or designing processors

>>12546532
Why are you reluctant about MechE?
>most broad field of engineering
>Autodesk/CAD
>interested in applied physics
All of those are MechE to a T.

However the sad reality is that you'll probably have to go overseas and get a masters minimum to do any of the sexy shit you mentioned. There is very little R&D here. Also not being able to code will hold you back big time.

T. final year mech eng student

>>12540144
Kept asking in previous /scg/s but got no reply:

I waste a lot of time watching history and philosophy youtube/bitchute videos, but that's not my field. I'd like to use that time to watch stuff that's more relevant to what I study.
Any recommendations for good natural science (preferably neuroscience) channels which are not dealing with the basics but with current research? Bonus points if they're on bitchute in particular since I want to use a less pozzed platform.

>>12546979
Lex Fridman interviews interesting guests on his podcast occasionally. The vast majority of guests are scientists. In fact, there has been several neuroscientists.

>>12544069
bump

I'm interested in mechanical engineering and electrical engineering. Which one is better in the future?

>>12546727
>Why are you reluctant about MechE?
* Being paid less than codemonkeys
* 21st century innovations are mostly in the field of AI, genetics, automation and IoT
*jobs around my area consist of working in food processing plants, consultation, HVAC and mining
* Kind of risky due to competitiveness and the reasons stated above

>>12547110
>Being paid less than codemonkeys
Mostly true, again it's a broad field so there's a big range in salaries. Still a good living anywhere you go though. The more rural operations often pay top dollar to get people out, and since it's in the middle of nowhere cost of living is nice and cheap.

>21st century innovations are mostly in the field of AI, genetics, automation and IoT
Don't chase memes, there is and will continue to be innovation in a wide range of fields, many of which we have yet to recognise and many of which will involve mech eng in some capacity. Pursue what interests you.

>jobs around my area consist of working in food processing plants, consultation, HVAC and mining
That is the reality all over Australia. As I mentioned, you'll probably have to leave this barren rock if you want to do cutting edge shit.

>Kind of risky due to competitiveness
Yes the higher paying and 'prestigious' grad gigs are competitive, but no more so than other fields. I'd wager that MechE has some of the best employment prospects in the country, and the ones who are whinging were shitters in school or too spoiled to move to where the jobs are.

Don't stress about what's hot right now. Just do what interests you and apply yourself, regardless of the field of study.

>>12542368
Idk but the vast majority of Fortune 500 ceos were stem majors not business/finance types

>>12544069
I have no direct experience myself but I knew someone doing an MSc in Operations Research and he said it was good. Much is about optimisation. Work often relates to management.
The software industry shows that far from everyone cares about optimisation.

>>12545509
>staffed on their data science projects since that is in your skillset.
This is not necessarily true.
Look at McK QB and BCG Gamma for the latest offerings.

>>12547110
>automation and IoT
>what is mechatronics
>>12547247
>MechE has some of the best employment prospects in the country
This is true. Bc its so broad I know MEng ppl whove gone into shit ranging from IBD to AutoCAD

>>12542946
Electrical Engineering

Yo, yo, mah niggaz, what do you know about Prosthetics and Orthotics as a field? They're accepting mathfags, physicsfags, and engineeringfags.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/engineering/research/projects/epsrc-centre-for-doctoral-training-in-prostehtics.page

>>12547247
>>12547572

According to BLS, the employment of mechanical engineers will grow by 4% from now till 2028 while that of computer scientists will be 16%.

Yikes

>>12547707
>According to BLS, the employment of mechanical engineers will grow by 4% from now till 2028 while that of computer scientists will be 16%.
How do they define these categories, though?

>>12547707
>employment of mechanical engineers will grow by 4%
yes, 4% for mechanical engineering role specifically.
this is why you man are proper retarded. Most top engineers in the Uk go into finance anyways. The point about mech eng is that you get 4 years of doing everything, so when you leave your options are wider than any other field.
t. was as McK from mechE, know dons at EVR / Citi / JP / GS all from mechE

>>12547472
thanks for the response, I will probably go for it

I am 20 .I have been studying German for a year now and I will study EE there next year.
My uncle has an IT company in Canada.He said he can get me an entry level position and by working hard I can make it to 150k a year in 5years.Should I take his offer?
I don’t know what to do. I want to pursue a PhD and try to innovate and create things and in the other side that 150k is 30 times what my dad earns here. If I invest and make the right decisions I can probably retire at the age of 30 and help my family financially.

Bump

>>12548206
Is that pic real
Osama was so kawaii

>>12548242
Unfortunately it’s not real

>>12548206
Are you from a 2nd world country or something? Does your family need financial help?

>>12548454
def not american, who tf would want to go to germany?

STEM is a burger categorisation

What should I do when I graduate next year with a Bachelors in Science, majoring in Physics with a minor in mathematics and concentrating also in physics?

I like computers and how much will I make?

>>12548510
It's the mecca of Engineering in Europe bruh what are you trippin on

Anyway if money is important for his family's wellbeing then 5 years to get 150k is very good, and you can switch to a desired career afterwards, avoiding doing entry-level grunt work you might not want to do

what semester do you start thesis research during a masters degree?

>>12548454
No from a 3rd world country.we are just surviving.
>>12548481
Education is free in Germany and I can attend a top 50 university

>>12546022
Thanks for the advice anon.

>>12541217
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
This one is now updated to version 1.5, again big thanks to all the assistance. This one had a lot of inputs on consultancies.

>>12548517
you shouldn't wait for next year, just kys immediately and abruptly

Hello /sci/. I graduated with a shit useless degree and now I want to go to dental school. I have to take the prereqs starting next fall I guess. I think its 2 semesters of Bio, Physics, Chemistry and Organic Chemistry. This will take two years total. I have two questions: the first is that I took physics 1 like six years ago and got a C. Clearly I don't remember anything. When I retake the course will they average the two grades together or will they just take each new mark into account? My GPA otherwise is 3.9 so Im not really worried about the whole picture. The other question is what you guys think I should be looking at or studying the next 8 months? Should I just grind some intro science textbooks out? thanks

>>12548697
Very based.

>>12543147
definitely computer engineering. not many of those around.

>>12546979
Stay away from podcasts is my recommendation. Particularly for hard science it's just pointless garbage commentary and pseudo-philosophy. Just to give you an example, this is the most popular "neuroscience" podcast on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/neurotransmissions very low quality and fashionably SJW-political as fuck on top of that.
What I would recommend is finding people or institutes which present their work. Just type one of your search terms of interest, say "fmri" for neuroscience, and look for videos for which the thumbnail looks like figures from an article or slides.

On youtube there's very many:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGoxKRfTs0jQP52cfHCyyRQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_BIby85hZmcItMrkAlc8eA/videos

On bitchute fmri gives you hits from this guy, who seems to do presentations on his own research: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/rmFnLa4Baemh/ and this one girl https://www.bitchute.com/channel/d3JJUfJQ3BzB/ who seems to mainly do political grifting.

>>12547677
Reply or I'll shoot you

What's the best and safest job/career that pays around $70-100K/yr for someone with a 130 IQ and who just turned 30?
I want to do something with my life. I'm good at math and reading.

>>12544069
>>12547472
What math background is needed to get into a good operations research masters in the US?
I have a memeconomics degree but took cacl 1-3, a couple of programming courses and a discrete math course.
My GPA is low at 3.2 but the higher in tech-focused coursework.
Also I have about 6 years of business experience.

My search for entry-level photonics jobs are going nowhere, even with an MS. The thin bottleneck of internships and starting positions means I can never get past the minimum 2 year experience requirements for most of the other jobs. I DONT KNOW WHERE TO GO.

>>12550081
>minimum 2 year experience requirements
Apply anyway nigga, they'll interview you if you have the MS and when they ask about experience give them a good answer about the shit you've done and don't be autistic

>>12550097
But what experiences? My last experience of any sort was research assistance in 2018 for FPGA stuff that I had no idea about. I was just there clicking run on MATLAB all day because the other professor that I was originally going to help with optical research for shut me out of his lab at the last minute.

>>12550119
What's on your resume?

>>12550129
Relevant courses, 3 anemic internships (only one remotely STEM related), some projects for lab/design classes, skills, an online Zemax traning course accreditation, and volunteer service. The only thing eye-catching was that my senior design team won an IEEE international competition, but I certainly contributed the least because it was a wireless communication project I got stuck in, since they couldn't come up with a project for the optical EE students.

>>12550160
Talk about all of your projects then. That's definitely relevant experience.

>>12550164
But that is implying I'm getting interview requests at all

>>12550169
It's worth speaking with professors you're close with or the career department at your school for help.

>>12546545
>t. call center pajeet

>>12547247
>>12547572
What interesting jobs are there in australia?

>>12541090
Not op but want to add:
What is the field like? I graduate with my bachelor's of bioinformatics in a year and I'm not sure what to expect out of the job market

>>12550367
Depends, what are you interested in?

>geology masters degree
>get several interviews
>only get hypothetical entry level job offers of around 30-40k
>gf tries to say not to accept anything less than 60k and to know my worth

What should I think right now? I know I chose a meme degree, but I feel like it’s still more useful than some libshit one.

>>12540285
is your adviser dan credgington?
why did he leave?

>>12551829
>gf

Yeah I fucked her

>>12551941
I don’t think so brother

>>12540307
The real chads working with Shaw do molecular dynamics simulations and supercomputing hardware development.

>>12551829
It’s entry level calm down nigger.

>>12549718
>What math background is needed to get into a good operations research masters in the US?
Just googling that quoted line gives results that suggest you need to be able to master advanced calculus and more. On the other hand, people I know who did some related studies said the complexity was overhyped.

>>12540168
look at what the Dutch are doing in Greenhouse tech.
I would say that AI could be helpful in monitoring plants for disease or lack of water/ light / nutrients.
But most of these tasks could be done through simple colorimetry.

Now beware of the "as efficient as possible" in agriculture. The end result could be efficient, but low in nutrients, full of antibiotics and hormones.
meat factories (these could not be called farms anymore) are already super efficient but produce shit and must be hell on earth for animals inside. I am not even PETA or like, but I guarantee that a lot of people would have second thoughts before eating meat from these factories.
unless you want to automate slaughterhouse with robots so that humans don't have to have their hands covered in blood and have "good conscience" while offseting the problem.

one thing you could look into is plant amino acid into tradionally "meat" protein conversion through bacteria, fungi research, and growing meat.
But as I said, people are addicted to quantity in a lot of parts of the world.
and quality comes at a price.
obesity epidemic anyone ?

good luck.

I am a Frenchman in an okay university in Canada. What should I do to get to a Better university for masters ?

>>12554119
In fact I am French I meant to say freshman

>>12553990
AI is already well in use in aquaculture.

>>12548553
First semester is lit review and forming project. Start research and propose by end of second.

"Why yes, I am applying to your school solely based on prestige. I want to go to graduate school for a title that follows me for the rest of my life. And a little more money too. That's it."

why is this personal statement frowned upon? Just being honest.

>>12556106
Professors are self absorbed and want you to kiss their ass

>>12551939
Nope.

Is an EE degree any good?

/sci/ I've been working at home for the last 9 months as a postdoc and I can't take it anymore. Should I just go NEET? I have never been more depressed in my life.

>>12556243
Make sure they fire you instead of quitting so you can collect unemployment neetbux.

I like high level and low level programming languages. I also like computer hardware and peripherals. what do?

>>12556364
Go into embedded developement. Get an engineering degree from a real school. You'll work on satellite and airplane components. Try to read through DO-178. If your eyes don't bleed, you might be a good fit.

>>12546545
>I wish I lived in a smaller town and worked for a small (but still moderately successful) company desu.
so tesla

>>12540144
Which STEM careers are better suited to visual learners and require some creativity?

>>12556243
It's a bad time for you to burn out not gonna lie. What are your options? Is it possible for you to transition to industry? Do you have enough savings to NEET for a time while you recover?

Consider actually taking a holiday too. I know it's below the standards of boomer academics, but fuck them they never had to deal with market volatility and income uncertainty.

>>12557026
All of them basically.

>>12551829
You are not worth 60k your gf is delusional. In 2-3 years you may well be worth that though, even previous experience is not worth the risk of training new employees usually.

Also speak to your fellow graduates frankly about ther offers.

>>12550119
Lie nigger

>>12548206
Yes definitely take your uncles offer. Always make use of nepotism because everyone else does (ignore my warning at your own risk, most foreign graduates are unemployed in Germany and they blame racism, but it's really nepotism and overall scarcity of quality jobs).

>>12543096
This is really inspiring Anon. Do you have any advice for newly minted PhDs trying to get started on their own company?

The tech I developed isn't as life changing, mostly it is useful to a niche manufacturing industry (which has a lot of growth potential depending on how the battery wars evolve). I really want to give back to the country that funded my work and I feel the best way to do this is keep developing this tech locally and hopefully eventually employ some people. My professor supports me, but we are both kind of clueless about finding investors and/or more sales contracts.

>>12557026
Are you that dude who was complaining about mech eng in the last thread? Just go to school bro it's not that hard

Got an MA in international affairs, am working for the government in my country already but would like to get coding jobs, because I would like to do something else even if most of them pay less than what I make right now.

Should I sign up for these bootcamps that are advertised everywhere? Or should I go back to uni?
I'm 31 btw.

If I use up all my savings and things luck out I might do a Bachelor in Software Engineering and Management in Sweden. Should I bother or just get a Computer Engineering one from my third world polytechnic? Unsure if I'll do a Masters afterwards, but if I do it will be in Computer Vision.

Is there financial stability for a CS graduate in Latin America or have I been memed?

>>12557798
Do they even have computers in South America or are you using parrots to transport letters to Mexico so some Mexican can post for you on 4chan?

>>12557235
I tried unsuccessfully to get an industry job and was forced to postdoc. My only worry about quitting is having to explain to employers the gap in my cv. Got enough money to last a few years.

>>12557804
We do have computers. Just a really awful internet service, banana republics galore and inner shitposting centrals.
>t. Venezuelan

finally got around to grading
can't believe im finally doing it
t. eaching assistant

>>12556243
What field? If you are concerned with holes in your CV, a NEET timeout is hardly an alternative. Why not try all out high risk ventures such as a startup?

>>12548521
in europe we dont call it STEM

>>12551829
Tried the oil industry? Around here the drop in oil price meant many dropped anything oil related including degrees and now that oil price is slowly recovering the industry is left without sufficient expertise.

Just keep in mind that the oil industry is pretty ugly, they butter you up in good times but at the mere shadow of a hint of trouble they turn on you like a snake and kick you out. The first to go are "old" people, essentially anyone over 40. Slumps usually last 18 months after which the same "leaders" wail like children that nobody wants to join them. Wonder why. And the people they ejected don't really feel like returning. Funny that.

Oil price is edging up but the CO2 ablutions can kill this. The Biden administration might turn the screw even harder. Meanwhile:
https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/covid2.html

These threads send me ever deeper into depression. There really is no hope, is there.

if I wanna be an acoustical engineer, should I study EE?

>>12540144
I only see ST-Elevation Myocardial Infarction

>>12559523

What are the best unis for science, ie computer science? I’m looking for something equal to MIT/Berkeley/Carnegie if my nephew doesn’t get a scholarship there. Is Moscow state/Tokyo Uni/ETH Zurich an equivalent to those outside the USA?

I have finished the 3rd/4 year of my undergrad pure maths degree, and I realised that I do not want to go to grad school anymore. I have absolutely zero experience in anything other than summer research. I am thinking about extending my degree and doing a major in CS. The CS program at my uni seems like a good blend of theory and practice and I liked discrete maths, It would take me 2 years to do the CS major and I guess I will be actively grinding for jobs like everyone in the race during then. Any thoughts?
>Australian btw

>>12559836
I really feel like that s4s/bant meme which goes like
>I failed life lole

I have finished the 3rd/4 year of my undergrad pure maths degree, and I realised that I do not want to go to grad school anymore. I have absolutely zero experience in anything other than summer research. I am thinking about extending my degree and doing a major in CS. The CS program at my uni seems like a good blend of theory and practice. It would take me 2 years to do the CS major and I guess I will be actively grinding for internships/jobs like everyone in the race during then. Any thoughts?
>Australian btw

>>12559836
I really feel like that s4s/bant meme which goes like
>I failed life lole

Is CS/Math trash compared to engineering?

is actuarial risk assessment in the criminal justice system over saturated?

So like I have no clue what to do in life but I don't think Im alone in that. Going to start my second semester as a freshmen but I already feel pressure to choose some type of major or path to a final degree but i don't know shit about anything I want to do. Everything sounds like a fantastic dream job however I know most of it's a sham. Any advice on how to find something not soul-crushing? Im into chem and was considering majoring in it but not sure what careers besides a school teacher I could get with that. Also anyone know what being a medical doctor is like? Is it just an overwhelming amount of paperwork and bs or something better than that?

>>12560706
just go to WGU for your second degree in CS and save time and money.

Is data scientist a viable career in the UK or is it really competitive?

>>12561755
bump

What should I do if I'm terrible at maths? Like I would've probably failed all exams for an engineering degree.

What non-stem degrees are good?

>>12562110
A degree in sucking and fucking “““straight””” engineers.

>>12562230
Nah, all the unemployed engineers can do that

>>12562110
Architectfag

27yo philosophyfag here. i haven't done anything formal and rigourous like maths or programming since i was 15. How do i transition into doing STEM? Do I need to grind out years of basic patterns before I can approach it again? Is there a comfortable path back in?

>>12562638
Give up now.

>>12562638
>Do I need to grind out years of basic patterns before I can approach it again? Is there a comfortable path back in?

Not at all. The best way to learn math or coding or anything like that is to have fun while you do it. Also don't get hung up on the formalism. It's more important to have an intuitive understanding of the topic and the objects your dealing with, and the definitions and axioms they satisfy. I also think going through all the precalculus shit is a waste of time.

Just pick up a book on combinatorics or graph theory for beginners and start there. Combinatorics and graph theory are cool because its "real math" (i.e. it's not like precalc bullshit, or even basic calculus), but it's still pretty concrete and most people can at least follow along even if they don't know advanced math (as long as they are passionate and willing to put in the effort). Another option might be formal logic and propositional logic, since you are into philosophy.

How hard is it to become an actuary? As in how good do you have to be at maths? I’m a britbong if that matters.

>>12540144
Alright boys im a mech eng with excellent continuum mechanics skills. How do I get into making hypersonic missles?

>>12562744
Join the army.

>>12540144
Does anyone have any experience with programming in electrical engineering? I just started working as a project designer and I spend too much time doing repetative tasks like looking through catalogues and working with excel. I belive most of it can be automated but I don't have much expecience with programming. Has anyone here automated most of their work?

Finishing my Ph.D. in biomaterials, want to move to industry because academia is a black hole for cucks and sand negros. What do I do?

>>12562822
I've never had a spreadsheet monkey job but probably. You can program macros in excel with VBA or python can import your stuff if you want to work with that. The only problem you will run into is trying to look busy once you automate 90% of your job.

>>12562837
Pharmacy or medical equipment?

>>12562728
thanks anon, i'll check out some resources on that

>>12562677
maybe later

/sci/ bros, I need some advice:

I‘ve studied math (undergrad, dropped out of grad school) and have been working for a few years for a biomed firm but I‘m kinda bored.

I wish to switch fields but don‘t know how to do it.
I would like to get into EE but clearly lack the skills to just switch, on top of the fact that I can‘t code even if my life depended on it.

Do you brehs think it‘s worth doing a 2nd undergrad? It‘s a large financial commitment, especially since I‘m 29 already and got a wife and parents who both wanna see money. I don‘t have the self-discpline to self-study though, so I‘m on the fence of whether I should just stick with the boring job I have or whether I should take a risk and go to school again.

Why don't you guys ever give advice on biotech or biochemistry

>>12564909
What is it about EE that interests you.

Perhaps there are other options that would satisfy these interests without needing a new degree.

>>12565429
I‘m interested to learn more about control and materials handling system. It fascinates me but I somehow can‘t discipline myself to study it next to my work and time spent with friends and family.

In order to work as an electrical engineer in he mining field, I‘d probably need some sort of formal education. Just not sure if an undergraduate degree is the way to go.

>>12565161
Because all the biochads left /sci/ because of its low quality