/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12537182
Stop eating salt.
Stop poisoning yourself with iron.

>>12537182
people will immediately argue "overpopulation!" but I beg to differ.
Antiaging, by means of ongoing treatment, will be prohibitively expensive for the underclass. And since overpopulation tends to be caused by lower class individuals, The increase in upper class will have minimal impact on world population.
Of course, if only the super-rich had access to this, it could lead to never-ending plutocratic dystopia. But if the technology were cheap enough to reach the middle class, that would cause a net increase in high IQ individuals, who are free to pursue their careers and have as may high IQ children as they want, whenever they want and can afford them.

>>12537273
furthermore, the cost of anti-aging therapies (periodically rewinding back 20 years) may be cheaper than paying social security, so there is reasonable chance it would be subsidized

When will this be possible? Is it too late for me? I'm 45 years old already

>>12537182
Gene for making you younger is activated by 5 chemicals that goes into irregular sequence.

Substances are of natural ocurrence and consumption relates to star aligment.

It's unpatentable due to the fact it's already know mechanism.

Also it's plant and almost plant based.

Therefore if you don't get a mechanism how to make profit out of it, or have some contra offer, you'll probably died in 80's already.

>implying im afraid of death

>>12537273
Yes, you're oftalmologist, I knew that.

You can't just change nature. God didn't create humans to be immortal

>>12537281
RIP

The problem is the current government is operated by petty little fucks who would most certainly feel that if they can't reap the benefits then everyone born after they can roll over and die at the average life span.

Look at the pro-life movement.

I'm speculating that the primary reason so many focus so much on enabling babies born with absurd birth defects they think it's their meal ticket to the after life.

Yes, they would have a person be born without a brain-stem just so they(the pro-lifers) can get a shot at gaining entrance to the after life.

>>12537182
>Cracking the code of biological aging could solve America’s health care crisis
Lol yeah, all of the 2 thousand people in America able to afford the cure for aging, taking the cure, would "fix" "America’s" health care crisis.

>>12537182
Maybe stop marking up healthcare so much.

>>12537182
>just solve aging
Wow, it's so simple.

>>12537439
You're like the liberals who're now complaining about how regular wealthy people could soon go to space thanks to SpaceX.

There a lot of things most people can do that would drastically elongate and improve the quality of their life. Ironically, most people were given tons of good advice in their schooling, but the media also made school "not cool". People don't actually want to improve their life.

>>12537451
If they just spent money on researching instead of foreign wars and military bases it wouldn't take long before a cure

>>12537471
There is no cure. Better spent on real science and not conman bait.

>>12537471
You forget those wars exist so as to expand our resource acquisition. You can't have technology without tons of raw materials that need to be extracted. The US can't extract Lithium from South America, cobalt from Africa, or phosphorus from Morroco without raw power.

>>12537483
But they are not spending money on real science, just useless pills that won't cure people from diseases

>>12537488
OK, schizo.

>>12537488
It's almost like money and real science tend to be independent of each other.

>>12537487
You have this vision of how the world works that is just not right.
The US government does not 'extract' lithium from south america to make shit. Private companies buy resources from companies that extracted said resources in other countries. You don't need "raw power", you just need free trade.

>>12537518
https://dailycollegian.com/2020/09/bolivias-new-government-and-the-lithium-coup/

This isn't an isolated thing. Many governments do shit like this all the time.

"please put more money into saving boomers" thus the boomers

>>12537551
>"please put more money into saving boomers" thus the boomers

Boomers will die anyway, but if we act now we can save a lot of millennials

>>12537182
I actually think that in the future, wherea we might not get antiaging, we could be able to postpone death inevitably. This will not lead to overpopulation as the birth rate will drop down to basically 0, but people will still be sexually satisfied thanks to contraceptives. If you consider by how much the birth rate has dropped since the post-industrial lifespan increase it seems reasonable that a death-free society will not have many kids

Old people should be working, not dying in retirement homes. Boomers are just lazy.

>>12537555
we know, they don't. that's the joke.
they are so cocky that they really believe putting all of their resources into anti-aging research will prevent their inevitable death

>>12537281
At 45 I'd say you might have a chance but only if we're really optimistic. Generally they say being under 30, right now, is a good place to be for this kind of stuff.

>>12537182
>What do you think?
I'm thinking that science is back and that the retarded nightmarish era is ending. We are going to live our destined future, Star Trek is near.

No point of being immortal if we can't cure chronic diseases

>>12539789

All you gotta do is live long enough to see the cure for the chronic disease developed.

>>12539308

It's almost like science takes decades to develop if not centuries. You live in an age of great change, I respect the skepticism but at least listen to the evidence.

>>12537471
Retard this isn't a game of civ, you can't just buy tech points. More money is just going to mean the researchers have better coffee machines.

>>12540697
t. retard

>>12538882
I hope you are right. Im 19 so I might experience it

You will NEVER be a women and you will NEVER be immortal.

>>12540717
Wrong, and wrong. Sorry chud ;^)

>>12540650
You will get old, die, lose everything you have worked hard to acquire, such as beloved relationships and various mental and physical skills. One could say the universe laughs while taking the sum total of your toils from you, but this indifference should not be personified in such a manner. This loss will sting (to put it lightly) and cause you to suffer in ways you have most likely never thought possible - new pathways in your brain will be formed by this sublime stress, but it won't do your development much good, as you will be short for this world anyhow. Ah well.

Perhaps you will take the easy way out and simply wirehead yourself with sedatives and such, but your spirit will remain unsettled, because in your heart of hearts you know permanent oblivion is right around the corner. Your consciousness will reverse to that of a child, until you eventually regress back to the monad, a single point again, to be nothing for all of time. After your death, there will be no new memories of you, and since there are always billions of people striving for recognition, soon very few will keep your memory alive, and then none at all. Science will not save you.

That'll happen in less than half a century or so, and just think of all the centuries which have passed up until the present. It just seems to fly by, eh?

>>12540714
Goes for you and all other immortalists as well.

Won't ever happen. It's ethically wrong

>>12537193
Don’t we need iron???

>>12542013
don't listen to posts from schizos on 4chan fren
they are hurting and we can't help them
and if we try they hurt us in return

>>12540857
So we're the last fucking generation to die of old age?? FUCK ME

>>12542013
Sugar is the only poison we need to get rid.

>>12542214
No. The last generation to die of very old age is the boomer. They lived a large part of their life without heavy pollution and heavy shit food. Our generation are born into this shit.

>>12537182
The fundamental problem is negotiating. If we treat hospitals like car dealerships things will change.

>>12537288
Says everyone until they're face to face with death. I was the same way until I had a near death experience, now it's something I'm now striving to avoid or put off as long as possible.

>>12542013
A little, but iron is pretty damaging if you have too much.

>>12537351
I wish god would make it more obvious so I could stop worrying about death

just stop being fat

Science can't fix America's healthcare system.
>The fundamental problem with health care in the U.S. is that it is expensive.
This is bullshit. "Being expensive" is not a fundamental problem. The problem is the layers upon layers of corrupt and dysfunctional bullshit that constitute the system. There's no way to fix it other than replacing it entirely, and that's not gonna happen.

>>12539308
Reduced food intake is probably legit to some degree though. By using it we've produced huge lifespan increases in other species, including rhesus monkeys.

>>12542013
Iron is metal ur putting metal in ur blood

>>12537281
>45 and still on 4chan
No its over for you

>>12542013
Wasn't an article posted recently where c elegans lived twice as long with reduced iron?

>>12537281
>am 20 exactly
having a good feeling about the future /sci/bros