/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12513185
How old are you?

>>12513186
23

>>12513188
Almost getting too old. How dedicated are you?

>>12513185
Reading books is a mistake. Start by tinkering around with shit you already know and finding interesting questions.

>>12513185
>I'm an ignorant retard
you're already a mathematician. all you had to do was believe.
also start where you want.
can you answer the question: what is math?

>>12513190
I'm quite obsessed with things I that I learn.

>>12513190
>Almost getting too old. How dedicated are you?
Speaking of retarded

>>12513193
>what is math?
A frame of mind

>>12513193
Math is what computers do with strokes on a board, everyone knows that.

>Search on the internet about famous conjectures
>Chose the most beautiful according to you
>Fail to understand them
>Read wikipedia articles that explain each notions recquired to understand the conjecture
>Enter a never-ending quest into the math world, on your quest you will meet problems of various difficulty the most important is to try by YOURSELF to solve them, not just reading the demonstrations.
Good luck fren

>>12513190
this, better hurry up OP. I'm in a similar situation and also 23, and I feel like this is an extreme race for time. You can't learn new things after 25.

>>12513194
Here's a reading list:
https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki/Mathematics
If you're seriously behind, the foundational books here might also be a requirement:
>https://4chan-science.fandom.com/wiki/Math_Textbook_Recommendations#Preschool_.28Arithmetic.29

>>12513195
Salt.

>>12513185
Start with solving the following puzzle to see if you're worth the salt:
On the opposite sides of a long stick there are 2 armies of ants, each army containing 100 ant, making up a total of 200 ants. Every ant in one army moves towards an ant in another army. Once two ants touch, they both immediately turn around and begin walking in opposite directions. Every ant walks with the same constant speed.
When an ant reaches the end of the stick, it falls off and dies.
The question: how many total ant collisions happen until all the ants fall off?

>>12513197
I like your thinking. I would say something similar: math is a schizological delusion.

>>12513201
Plz no, am 25 trying to learn math before 30 :(

>>12513185
>>12513200
And I add that since you're ignorant, try not to be too much influenced by the maths already done, we should waste virgin brains as little as possible

>>12513205
you never indicated the direction of the ants. If they are not in the same line they won't touch, moving the same speed also doesn't mean very much, it doesn't imply they move straight.
One ant follows one other also doesn't indicate which follows which.
also we dont know the will of the ants.
take this scenario:
.....
===========
_________.....
where the first ant is following the last ant and the second to the second to last etc.
.......................
===========
.......................
the ants are now centered. now they must pick to move left or right to follow the ant.
if one group move the same way they will never meet. if they move opposite they will meet.
and then the ants that meet will turn around and met again.
and that's just one scenario.
so it's between 0 and infinity.

>>12513207
Better stop now if you're doing it because you want to be successful. In this case you're wasting your time.
If you're just doing it for fun, then carry on

>>12513247
I'm going to do something meaningful, you'll see! The Fields will be mine!

>>12513206
I'm a clinically verified schizo. Is this a good prerequisite for being a mathematician?

>>12513253
Yes, ask Nash.

>>12513251
Okay anon, sure you will.
You have 15 years left until that door closes forever btw

>>12513193
>you're already a mathematician. all you had to do was believe.
I want to believe anon...

>>12513188
>>12513201
Learning math/science at high speed and stress level becomes a bit more difficult after 25, if you want to do it go for it quickly.

>>12513205
Let a brainlet engineer try...
Each opposing army collision will propagate outwards with the last ant falling off in each direction. There's the initial collision of the two opposing armies then a collision wave propagates out, so 1+2x99, 1 ant falls off of both ends, so you're left with 99 on each side, then another collision happens again between the opposing armies, then its 1+2x98, 1+2x97......so pic related?

>>12513356
Whoops forgot the 2

>>12513253
you're already a mathematician
>>12513288
>I want to believe anon...
now you're getting it.

>>12513277
W-what?

>>12513551
>The Fields Medal is a prize awarded to two, three, or four mathematicians under 40 years of age
>under 40 years of age

>>12513587
I-I'll be an o-outlier!

>>12513205
200

>>12513205
what is it

>>12513936
>>12513368

>>12513205
If the first ant of an army touches the first ant of the other army, and turns around, does it collide with the second ant of his own army, changing it's course, thus making the second ant collide with the third ant and so on?

>>12513185
Start with Euclid's Elements
>Many problem solvers throughout history wrestled with Euclid as part of their early education including Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Descartes, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Hobbes, Baruch Spinoza, Ada Lovelace, Abraham Lincoln, Alfred North Whitehead, Bertrand Russell, and Albert Einstein. This edition is part of an effort to ensure that tomorrow's great thinkers will have that same privilege.

>>12513205
100 collisions exactly

>>12513194
thats all you need

>>12513185
If you want to learn math, you may be ignorant, but you aren't stupid. I believe in you, OP.

>>12513188
I was two years older than you when I started studying on my own. Had a 6th grade knowledge level. I'm now working my way through calc 3. Already passed a calc 3 class, but I don't feel like I properly understand it yet. Anyways, the point is, if I can do it, so can you.

>>12513205

10,000

>>12513201

I'm 26 and I can verify this isn't true. I would say 40-50 is when the brain noticeably gets less plastic. It's really that most people start working full time by their mid 20s and have no time for self improvement, and you have the additional time constraint of family and relationships. if you're a sperg like me those things are more sparse. The second issue is the fact that you're meant to have been socially stratified by your 20s. First in undergrad, then you get another shot if you plan to go to gradschool. From then on, what value is learning high level mathematics if you are not a mathematician or scientist? Is there any precedent for uncredentialed mathematicians being respected by academia in the modern era? I would say not, mathematics can be fun but I wouldn't bother with it too much unless you have a realistic shot at making it into a career

>>12513368
[eqn]n^2[/eqn]

>>12515111
people learn maths for their careers all the time anon.