/sci/ - Science & Math

I was a retard as a kid and never pulled my foreskin back but I went to the doctor when I was 12 and he basically told me to stretch a bit every time I took a shower and my dick went back to normal eventually.

>>12499556
you're right about circumcision, but phimosis is where your foreskin is too tight to pull back. That's kind of the whole point.

>>12499646
[math] \aleph [\math] A small price to pay for eternity in sheol [math] \aleph [\math

>muh sexual pleasure muh orgasms
Peak degeneracy. Imagine being such a coombrain that you're willing to die on this hill, making such a big fucking deal about your dick needing to feel better while watching goddamn porn. There is more to life than cumming you fucking degenerates. foreskin = more masturbation = degeneracy. Don't fall for jewish tricks, get your son's circumcised!

>>12499661
I thought phimosis was caused by the foreskin failing to fully separate from the glans during puberty, such that trying to pull it back would basically be ripping off the skin of your dick? Or is that just what happens when you fail to pull it back manually?
>t. cutfag from birth

>>12499661
>>12499718
phimosis is either physiological or pathological
physiological in newborns pathological in puberty
it's where you can't retract the foreskin to show the glans

paraphimosis is when the foreskin is stuck behind the tip of the penis and is swollen. this can be secondary to phimosis and infection. usually in puberty. can lead to autoamputation

>>12499556
Even if you do get phimosis, it’s still better to wait and get it done by an actual plastic surgeon who now has more material to work with and will only remove the minimum amount necessary.

>>12499744
>autoamputation
I don't know what that is and I don't think I want to

>>12499715
Be honest, do you have comfortable chairs or do you deliberately get hard uncomfortable seating just to deny yourself any comfort which may soften you over time?

What do you eat? Do you ignore taste? Taste correlates with quality of food sometimes, but not always, very high quality nutrition could taste disgusting. Yet you haven't chemically burned your taste buds and their coercive, corrosive, perverting influence, off. This is a good analogy however, because the tongue influences the bowel, much like the foreskin influences the muscles in the groin which pulls on the scrotum and creates pleasure.

Do you masturbate? Do you have sex? Ever? Or do you deny sensual pleasures of any kind. Something sexual is going to happen occasionally, and when it does, it should have as much potential as possible. It's supposed to feel good, there is no inherent need nor benefit in diminishing it.

"Cope" is pretty overused these days., but when it comes to circumcision I think that's about all the psyche can do. It's on another level.

>>12499836
BTFO

>>12499556
>tfw didn't know I had to pull my foreskin back until I was 20

>>12499556
I'd really like to know what happened to the patient here

>>12499874
he got gnomed

>>12499718
>foreskin failing to fully separate from the glans during puberty,
This happens about a decade earlier

>>12499756
Means lose blood flow, the flesh becomes necrotic and falls off

>>12499974
It can also occur in pathologic phimosis which could be due to infection

>>12499556

>>12500006
No, I mean the foreskin separating from the glans usuallt happens at 2 or years of age.

>>12500034
It even looks barbaric

>>12499874
Gunshot wound to the foreskin

>>12499572
This is why I'm getting my future sons circumcised. I don't want them "pulling it back" and potentially discovering masturbation well before sexual development. I started masturbating at age 13 and never did it habitually until I was 20 then it was multiple times a day. I'm not having my kid discover this shit from a super young age and have his life ruined. I would have blown my brains out of I was addicted to this as a kid or teenager. Another interesting observation is that homosexuals almost always speak of precocious masturnation during 5 6 7 or 8, as if it is normal. We can hypothesize that prepubital masturbation may even predispose one to homosexuality. It isn't worth the risk of deviant and premature sexual behavior, I would rather chance nerve damage from circumcision than hypersexuality and homosexuality.

>>12499556
how was i supposed to know i should pull dick back? no one told me

>>12500186
makes sense. a 90s study found homos had a statistically lower prevalence of infant circumcision

>>12499836
Ye stay uncircumcised and cum after 5 seconds, the ladies will love that.

Your glans still exist and are sensitive. Brainlet

It allows you the privilege to dedicate your body to moloch and the jews, consider it an honor.

>>12499836
The more pleasurable something is, the more you are drawn to it.

>>12500220
Blame your parents

>>12500186
I started it at 11, and I was circumcised. Are you fucking retarded?

>>12500186
this is the kind of fucked up, sexually repressive thinking that circumcised produces

>>12500186
>>12500330
Masturbation is unironically supposed to be your first sexual experience. This is how it was in Ancient Greece, this is how it is in uncontacted tribes in the Amazon, and this is how it is for Khoisan exhaustion hunters in Africa (the closest to "pure" Homo Sapiens there are).

inb4 some fag comes in talking about porn, jerking off four times a day every day to hardcore scat porn isn't the same thing as a 13 year old tugging one out while imagining titties and you know it you fucking coomer.

>>12500046
Here you see the use of what is known as a "circumstraint". I know very clever name. It all around restrains the infant while he is being cut all around. A ring of restraint for a ring of cutting. Very clever.

>>12500271
Yet I have a foreskin and jerk off once every 3 to 14 days (6 on average), and many circumcised coomers surf pornhub daily.

>>12500221
Can you link it anon?

>>12500186
This is beyond based. This is godly.

>>12499715
>Don't fall for jewish tricks
>get your son's circumcised
One or the other retard

>>12500389
Circumcision was invented by God to punish the Jews. The Jews hate circumcision. That's why they love uncircumcised penises in all their pornography.

>>12500256
You have no idea how dicks work
Not even your own
I feel sad for your tiny dried meatworm anon I really do

>>12499556
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>>12499556
See:
>>12500522
>>12500543

>>12500555
Based CLAMPEDanon
What would /sci/ be without you?
Soulless and still CLAMPED

>>12500330
lol based

>>12500446
Imagine hating /pol/ so much that you literally defend baby genital mutilation.

>>12499556
>which only happens if you're a retard as a kid and never pull your dick back
I only discovered that I'm supposed to pull it back when I was 19

how was I supposed to know, nobody told me.

>>12500446
what does this thread have to do with /pol/?

>>12499715
how is not slicing off a portion of your penis peak degeneracy?

>>12501007
This guy is posting his copypasta in every thread. Ignore.

>>12500186
yeah. Instead of insuring that your sons aren't actually genetically horny freaks with responsible discipline you should instead mutilate their penises as babies with the mark used with pleasure by Jews by cutting their foreskins off, so when they do eventually sexually mature they will never be able to feel the same amount of pleasure or manhood as someone with an uncircumcised penis, after years of having their glans chafe, shrivel and dry. I would say this is the most unbased take. At least tell your kids that pornstars are literally possessed by evil spirits who want to harvest the sexual energy of disenfranchised young men, and that women shouldn't be trusted, instead of violating your own son with your distrust and self loathing. Be the better man anon.

>>12500256
Fuck you for making me say this unironically: have sex.

>>12500271
Why do most pornstars have circumsized dicks then?

>>12500186
>I want to pay people to genitally mutilate my son's to stop them from masturbating.
You are either a genuinely evil person who should never have kids, or a stellar troll.

Sell it to me as an adult. Why should I get a piece of my dick chopped off? The only reason we do it to babies is because they can’t choose. Obviously some dude with a medical condition that could be allleviated might choose it, but assume I’m not that guy. Why? Why should I?

>inb4 chicks dig it

Not good enough

>>12501283
If you don't do it, God will hate you.

>>12499556
Circumcision is the same as braces. Dumb retard.

>>12501283
I mean, not having dick cheese is nice, too. It makes you less like an animal with a retracting penis.

>>12501308
Oh gee, you’re right anon. I’m totally too retarded to figure out how to clean my dick even though I already shower twice a day. Guess I should get my fingernails removed because I’m too stupid to figure out how to keep those clean either.

>>12501308
>Not having dick cheese
It's called HYGIENE, you filthy animal. Speaking of which...
>Makes your dick less animal-like
1) Why are you so obsessed with animal dicks?
2) Why not pull off your fingernails so that your fingers are less claw like? Why are you still eating food with your teeth, like a filthy animal?

Do you understand why you're a moron yet?

>>12501348
Based and fingernail-pilled!

>>12501270
If gay people are really a minority, then why is every OP a faggot?

>>12501290
Only the Jewish god will, and I'm too poor to get on his good side anyway.

>>12501368
The father doesn't like the jews anymore.

>>12501382
Even Jews aren't rich enough for him? Damn, maybe we should start calling him "the gold-digger" instead.

>>12501275
Evil is a spook.

>>12499715
Just cut your entire dick off. Orgasm and reproduction are still possible, who cares about having degenerate genitalia anyways?

>>12499646
>(((Wallerstein)))

>>12499572
You weren't a retard. Your parents are suppose to not be retards and teach you how to groom yourself. I didn't know until I was out of high school that you're not supposed to shampoo your hair every day. I learned to think more critically about my hygiene because who knows what my parent's fucked up.

>>12502005
found the pedo

>>12499715
>▶
You're such a faggot if I ever saw you I'd deck you right in your crook nose asshole!!!

>>12502005
>ad hom
By your own logic, you’re still wrong too. More jews are in favor of mutilation, therefore it’s bad because jews.

>>12501022
It's stuff that moms are supposed to learn from parenting circles or whatever educational media they seek out/are given. If you never learned it, it's entirely your mom's fault. If my mom didn't make me do that as a little kid then I definitely wouldn't have

>>12501290
>make perfect creation
>command it to harm itself
What an all loving genital mutilation god worthy of the utmost reverence you have there, anon.

>>12499556
"Science" is made up fantasy by confused humans to cope with shit they don't understand. It would be very difficult for me explain it to your dull brain but the benefits of circumcision far outweigh the cons

>>12504410
>ad hom
>makes no argument

>>12504389
God didn't make us a perfect creation
He made us to torment us
God hates us
God is punishing us with circumcision
And if you don't follow HIs commands he'll punish you further

>>12505265
A “god” like that is a literal demon worthy of no worship. His very existence is paradoxical too, pic related.

>>12500256
post tits

>>12505285
It's not paradoxical.
The Epicurean paradox is shittier reasoning.
God hates us and will only consider us worthy of salvation if we do everything He says. He wishes to punish us because we are not worthy.

>>12499874
knife attack in China

>>12505320
>It's not paradoxical.
An all knowing, all loving, and omnipotent god is paradoxical in a world where evil exists.
>God hates us
>will only consider us worthy of salvation if we do everything He says
This version of YHWH is even worse than the mainstream notion of him. Why would a retard worship malevolent deities anyways?
>lie once
>use the lords name in vain once
>wear the wrong clothing once
>be born with healthy genitalia and you don’t mutilate yourself (even thought the NT gets rid of physical mutilation)
>go to hell
>try to follow bible
>it constantly contradicts itself
>go to hell anyways

>>12500186

>>12505389
>Hitler
>a supporter of genital mutilation

>>12505386
I didn't say God is all loving at all. He is full of wrath
>Why would a retard worship malevolent deities anyways?
>why worship the one that controls fate, your soul, and your afterlife and who takes pleasure in tormenting those who disobey His rules
It may be cruel but it's the truth and we must do it

>>12505422
>I didn't say God is all loving at all. He is full of wrath
I was mistaken and thought you weren’t worshipping what you believe to be a literal demon. Usually Abrahamists, at the very least, pretend YHWH isn’t an anti-human monster.
>It may be cruel but it's the truth and we must do it
What’s the source for it being the truth? God? The Bible? If so, that’s circular reasoning. Also, worshipping a god such as this is immoral. If such a hateful being is all knowing and all powerful, he would know we would be imperfect by his own standards; and if all powerful, he would correct this mistake. If he knew we would fail (or some would fail), and had the power to prevent this undesirable outcome (as he is all powerful), he knowingly set us up for failure and torture. Why should he be trusted or worshipped?

>>12505460
>Why should he be trusted or worshipped?
There's no better alternative. We're at His mercy and whims.

>>12505501
>There's no better alternative. We're at His mercy and whims.
The evidence in favor of this is coming from him, it’s circular reasoning and illogical.

Medics who perform circumcisions should be put to death on the spot. There are literally ZERO (0) arguments against this.

>>12500186
Thats why you keep them away from horny games until 14
Thats why you show them hobbies
Thats why you treat them like little men (learning to diy) instead of giving them a soistation

>>12499556
Kinda interesting, because in Vietnam circumcision is warned agaisnt by experts, unless on some rare cases. I also remember expert on tv talk about porn exposure in early age cause harms include homosexuality. That was before internet, ten years ago or something.

>>12499556
Renaming "foreskin" to "funskin" would rapidly and greatly diminish the circumcision problem. The term "prepuce" would also become archaic.

>Define circumcision
>Circumcision is a procedure which removes the funskin from the penis
>Oh okay sounds great.

>>12505538
So "porn exposure in early age cause harms include homosexuality" might have been due to exposing porn of men fucking american women?

>>12506896
half of porn is staring at dick

>>12506883
Slowly but surely moving into the area of "female circumcision" here.

>>12502005
Yeah read the Torah the Jewish Bible talks about circumcision and Abraham's Covenant

>>12499715
Abraham's Covenant to Jehovah
Circumcision only exists becsuse of the Jews

>>12500186
Guess what uncircumcised and I have a complete and utter uncontrollable sexual addiction. Guess what buddy our parents just didn't do a good enough job teaching us about masturbation and porn!

>>12502176
>>12506931
God I swear /sci/ is the densest board

>>12500221
>makes sense. a 90s study found homos had a statistically lower prevalence of infant circumcision
so how do you explain Tel Aviv?

>>12499556
Phimosis is treated by stretching not cutting.

>>12500367
I fucked my girlfriend three times a day for the majority of our relationship. Nofap is a meme

>>12499874
Final dilation of a post-op tranny.
He almost became a woman. Almost.

>>12505285
>could God have created a universe with free will but without evil?
>No
>then God is not all powerful
This is the most faggy "paradox" ever. It's like saying "God is not all powerful because he can't make a square with three sides". It's a logical impossibility, a feature of human language, and only appears meaningful to brainlets.

>>12507381
He already knows the results of our free will as he is all knowing. He doesn’t have to create us in the first place, but he does and by doing so he is creating suffering.

>>12507037
>no refutation
Wow, you sure showed them.

>>12500221
Correlation does not equal causation.

>>12507571
>He doesn’t have to create us in the first place
According to what? Even if he was all powerful, that doesn't mean he is able to control his own nature.

>>12500186
muuuuumm, the jewnikkerz are posting cringe again... do we have some gas left over?

>>12507597
What’s the point of him creating us? A test? He knows the results already. Some greater outcome? With his powers he can skip right to it.
>Even if he was all powerful, that doesn't mean he is able to control his own nature.
If he’s all powerful he should be able to control himself. Man (who is far from godhood) is able to control his nature (at the very least, sometimes). If god can’t, he is literally subhuman.

>>12508015
You just asked a lot of questions you can answer ten times over, for yourself. The problem is that you're stuck on one very specific notion of God (ie omni x4 guy) and therefore you're mixxing all the underlying assumptions that come with it.

>If he’s all powerful he should be able to control himself.
All powerful relative to what?

>If god can’t, he is literally subhuman.
Why is this a problem? If you are everything and everyoe, you are in effect, nothing and no one. Most of the human species is presently governed by computers and psychopaths, which are both subhuman.

>>12508076
>You just asked a lot of questions you can answer ten times over, for yourself.
Yes. The answer is that he is illogical.
>The problem is that you're stuck on one very specific notion of God
Yes, I’m referring to the god that the Abrahamists describe and worship.
>ie omni x4 guy
Isn’t it times 3? (Maybe even two, as all knowing could fall under all powerful.)
>All powerful relative to what?
Abrahamic mythology attests that he is the most powerful and all powerful. The one true and most powerful god.
>Why is this a problem?
Abrahamists insist he is far greater than us. They also believe we are deeply flawed, evil, and born into sin. If god is below us, then he is malevolent.
>If you are everything and everyoe, you are in effect, nothing and no one.
Earlier you said god wasn’t capable of the impossible (3 sided square) and now you are saying this.
>Most of the human species is presently governed by computers and psychopaths, which are both subhuman.
These things deserve no reverence and should be abolished.

>>12508130
>illogical
Define "illogical". Logic (and reason) relative to what?

>Yes, I’m referring to the god that the Abrahamists describe and worship.
You can't refer to that God as such because the narrative is full of internal contradictions. That leaves two choices, you can assume the contradictions are superficial and try to make it work, or you can read through it and construct a number of different models. A lot of what people believe is not actually in the doctrine, either.

>Isn’t it times 3?
Omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence, omnibenevolence. The fourth one creates the issues you've described (called the problem of evil).

>Abrahamists insist he is far greater than us.
Greater in what sense. Mycellium is greater than us, a computer is greater than us.

>They also believe we are deeply flawed, evil, and born into sin.
We sort of are. You cannot ever be all things for all people. Harm is unavoidable. The Orwellian solution of "Ignorance is strength" doesn't change that. This comes from the fact that we are not golem like Adam and Eve were. When they came to know, via the fruit, they gained the ability to see God and ignore his plan. Therefore they were cast out of that artificial environment and left to fend for themselves in the realer world.

>Earlier you said god wasn’t capable of the impossible (3 sided square)
That wasn't me. Like I said, there are so many ways to view this that productive discussion can't be had. You can say God is of this universe and therefore there are limits to his power (he is a false God). You can say he is outside the universe, and therefore he is limited by his space, its logic, and the interface by which he interacts with our's. You can look at it more like the Gnostics, Brave New World (or Ergo Proxy) style of God's clockwork paradise and a grand design. An ancient AI could be God, and manifest itself through the mycellium, plants, trees, etc.

>>12508174
>Define "illogical"
>definition: lacking sense or clear, sound reasoning
By illogical, I mean that an all knowing and all powerful god can not be all loving given the existence of evil. The existence of such a being is impossible.
>You can't refer to that God as such because the narrative is full of internal contradictions.
This is the god I’m talking about though. I’m not talking about any others. (That’s an entirely different debate, one that doesn’t really have an end either.) With YHWH, it’s pretty obvious he/his followers are lying.
>omnipresence
This doesn’t really factor into the paradox, but thank you for clearing this up. I appreciate it.
>Greater in what sense.
Abrahamists say he’s perfect.
>We sort of are.
I really don’t think people are born without innocence.
>via the fruit
If the Abrahamist fruit god was all knowing, he knew they would fail. He set them up. They were given an eternity to sit in the garden with Satan. You don’t even have to be all knowing to know that Satan will mess with them.
>Like I said...
I’m not really talking about mushroom gods (I wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts on this though) or Odin. Just YHWH. Sorry about any confusion I may have caused.

>>12499572
there was nothing wrong with you. you're supposed to have "phimosis" as a child and it requires no intervention on your part

the foreskin doesn't loosen until you're well into puberty and i'd guess the loosening is accelerated by fapping

>>12500186
kys asap

>>12505285
The concept of good and evil doesn't apply to God, it's a human concept and he is a deity, having said that and by definition he can do whatever he wants without consequence and judgement.

Even if He is all-knowing and whatnot it doesn't stop him from doing as he wishes. If you're going to ask for the purpose or meaning of all this then only He would know it, and it wouldn't matter anyway, because a puny mortal like you wouldn't comprehend or can do anything about it.

>>12508478
>The concept of good and evil doesn't apply to God
>in gods holy texts he describes himself as good and Satan as evil
He applied it to himself. Maybe he shouldn’t lie about being good if he knows good doesn’t exist.

>it wouldn't matter anyway, because a puny mortal like you wouldn't comprehend or can do anything about it
So then no one should bother to worship him, as we can’t even tell if he deserves worship or not. As he is all knowing, he would know he makes no sense. Wouldn’t he want to clear this up using his immense power? He doesn’t want anyone to go astray as he’s all loving after all.

>>12507574
I concur...

>>12508567
>He applied it to himself. Maybe he shouldn’t lie about being good if he knows good doesn’t exist.
He can kill humans and still claim to be "good", good on a human level is different from a deity level. That's how it works. Imagine if you were God, you can do whatever you want. You still don't get it do you.

> Wouldn’t he want to clear this up using his immense power? He doesn’t want anyone to go astray as he’s all loving after all.
This is exactly the test and why free will exists from a theist point of view. Technically he can just show his face to everyone (via some form) or do something only a deity would do, to prove that He does exist, but it makes it more interesting for non-believers.

>>12499646
>reading comprehension
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths#:~:text=This%20study%20finds%20that%20more,of%20these%20deaths%20are%20avoidable.
The real study shows that 9/100000 of the infant related deaths in the US are caused by circumcision
Infant deaths are pretty uncommon in the US and circumcisions make up a small percentage of them
I'm personally against circumcision but this shit just makes our side look dumb

>>12499715
pourpose of sexual pleasure and orgasm is to pair bond.
by mutilating genitals, this process is hindered. l

>There's literally no benefits to circumcision other than phimosis(which only happens if you're a retard as a kid and never pull your dick back)

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>>12501270
because kikes run porn industry

>>12500186
Unironically based

its really fucking bizzare to look at that practice from non american point of view. people literally cut of part of penis from newborns. not some random path of skin. PART OF PENIS.
this is INSINE

they literally remove part of your most sensitive organ
if every newborn had one of their ears removed i would have same reaction.
and everybody there thinks its normal.
i mean for ffs, THEY CUT OF PART OF YOUR DICK!
shoudlnt it be every man worse fear?

>>12501388
>>12501290
Think before typing your lies and insults.
God has always loved, and will always love the poor.
Do you not know that He became incarnate in poverty?

>>12508679
>Imagine if you were God
If I were the god, as in YHWH, I wouldn’t exist. As for being a god, that’s a different story, as not all other deities don’t claim to be all powerful, all knowing, and all loving in a world where evil exists.
>good on a human level is different from a deity level
I know, but YHWH said he was good on a human level. Why would he come down to our human level and say he is good by human standards? This would only invalidate the all knowing, all good, and all powerful narrative he claimed to be true.
>You still don't get it do you.
YHWH recognizes evil and tells us what it is and how to identify it. He/his followers claim that he is all loving, all knowing, and all powerful. A deity such as this can not exist.

>This is exactly the test
An all knowing, all loving, and all powerful god wouldn’t need to test us as he knows the outcome and would spare us the suffering of the test given his immense love.
>Technically he can just show his face to everyone (via some form) or do something only a deity would do
An all loving, all knowing, and all powerful god would eliminate evil and reveal himself or at the very least clear up the confusion in some way. The fact that this hasn’t definitively happened is why the paradox exists and why YHWH can not exist as described by himself/his followers.

>>12508710
>I’m going to harm my children despite the fact that they’ll end up masturbating anyways and because of anecdotal evidence
>I’m going to harm my children for no reason
>this
>based

>>12508713
>shoudlnt it be every man worse fear?
Cognitive dissonance makes them complacent.

>>12501991
no, women's vagina's provide lubrication... hopefully.

>>12508810
What?

>>12505526
I can't even think of a single good reason why you're wrong.

>>12499556
>phimosis
Doesn't that literally go away if you start beating off or having sex?

>>12499715
It's about owning roasties and getting Amerifats to stop being golemim

>>12499556
OP has a small weiner

whats the most disturbing is if you just search 'dobermann' in youtube and find a video with a dog with taper around it's ears you see droves and droves of woman lambasting and losing their minds about the 'inhumanity' and 'cruelty' of the process. these women are nowhere to be found in the debate of circumcision.

>>12508885
It just retracts with puberty. In America, doctors will forcefully retract the foreskin of children, which is fused to the glans as it should be, and insist mutilation is then necessary. This is “phimosis” in America.

>>12508929
>ad hom
Also, pic related.

>>12508837
that a foreskin is not needed because women's vaginas provide lubrication. So cutting off foreskin does not change sex (if sex is the only sexual use of a penis) but cutting off entire penis prevents sex.

>>12508721
It's a joke, you gibbering, retarded faggot. Maybe YOU should think before you type.

>>12508721
God hates everyone especially you because you're a faggot.

>>12509962
That's like saying removing the chassis of a car doesn't affect it's ability to transport you. Even if you're right, which you CLEARLY are not, you're OBVIOUSLY ignoring other crucial functions that are affected.

>>12510062
The crucial function of making smegma?

>>12510067
That's right. Smegma is part of the immune system, seals the glans and foreskin from open air, and keeps it soft and moist. Lack of a foreskin however exposes the glans to open air, dirt, and friction. Making it dirty and dried out.

Sorry, just the way it is.

>>12510067
No, retard. For one specific example, the foreskin literally has more nerve endings than the clitoris. Sex after circumcision is basically just numbness when compared to being uncut.

Why are you such a gibbering retard that you thought I was referring to smegma? Why are you such a disgusting, filthy animal that cutting off part of your dick is preferable to washing your dick? Why are you such a psychopathically evil piece of shit that cutting off baby parts for such a trivial reason is okay to you?

>>12510196
>circumcision reduces sexual pleasure
there isn't any evidence for this
Also, why do anticutfags always get so enraged? Just calm down.

>>12510210
>there isn't any evidence for this
Stop lying. It is literally physically impossible for someone to lose that many nerve endings and not experience SOME loss of sensation.
>why do anticutfags always get so enraged?
Because cut-fags like you LIE all the fucking time. For example, YOU lied about there being "no evidence" of loss of sensation. And you don't even lie for a good cause, you lie to enable genital mutilation of babies. We get enraged because, unlike you, we have a conscience.

>>12510210
>there isn't any evidence for this
For you. For someone with a foreskin it's just self evident. Though even without it, it can be inferred. A man without arms can watch people with arms and see what they seem to be experiencing. Go look up foreskin play on some porn site.

>>12499556
I have an 8in circumcised dick, circumcision has a lot of benefits, autocleaning dick, get a bigger dick, and harder erections, and women love circumcised dicks

>>12510253
>autocleaning dick
Take a shower, you disgusting fuck.
>bigger dick
It's not bigger, retard. It just looks bigger, and that's assuming you didn't need to get the rest of your dick chopped off because of an infection or other post surgery complication.
>harder erections
Anecdotal bullshit.
>Women love cut penises.
I say this with genuine concern/sympathy/whatever: stop hanging around, and chasing after, women who prefer genitally-mutilated men. They are not good for your well-being.

>>12510265
t. Uncut dicklet loser

>>12510265
>I say this with genuine concern/sympathy/whatever: stop hanging around, and chasing after, women who prefer genitally-mutilated men. They are not good for your well-being.
And yet his only alternative is women who are aware of his loss, and cannot help but feel pity, desire to soothe, mother, etc. That's the worst part of it. If he becomes aware, there still really is no way out. He can't become complete. He'll always wonder if his woman wouldn't actually prefer to have an intact man.

Hence, evil.

>>12510271
Don't blame me for YOUR parents not loving you enough to protect your penis from needless mutilation.

>>12499556
I'm 22 and have mushrooms growing on my dick making it spotted and itchy. I'm considering a late circumcision now. It's far more hygienic.

>>12510281
I’m not blaming anyone anon
I’m calling you a a soft penis loser who has nothing in his life to live for other than a piece of skin on his cock

>>12510289
Take a shower, filthy vermin.

>>12508698
Circumsised men last longer in bed, more pair bonding > higher intensity short term.
https://wb.md/3hmlHYc

>>12510290
I would rather be the most pathetic, basement dwelling loser on planet Earth than be an evil piece of garbage who supports needless genital mutilation of babies, like YOU.

>>12510292
You can last longer by having more sex and getting good at it. Stop making excuses for needless genital mutilation.

>>12510292
False. It's kind of a state of mind thing, but I can last an hour and more. There's never been a consistent finding on this matter either, although there is a small correlation between circumcision and prematue ejaculation.

>>12510297
Not an excuse, just a reason. There are reasonable arguments for and against circumcision.

>>12510302
False. There is no reasonable argument for reductively modifying an individual's body. Might say simply modifying is wrong.

>>12510298
Yeah just depends how selectively you look, people have made this research into a huge game for /sci/entists.

>>12510304
I mean that's just like your opinion man. You've ignored the evidence in favor of circumcision.

It's absolutely insane how fervently male genital mutlation (that's what circumcision is, objectively speaking) is defended, but female genital mutilation of any form is obviously unethical.

Really goes to show much how western society values men and male sexuality vs females and female sexuality.

>>12510302
Literally the ONLY reasonable argument in favor of circumcision is some kind of disease e.g. phimosis. And even in the cases where dick cutting is warranted, you get an actual diagnosis and do the least harm possible. AKA not cutting off a babies dick right out of the womb because "women like it better lolololol".
Literally any other argument is either OUTRIGHT bullshit or such a small benefit that it isn't worth it to ANYONE with a molecule of common sense.

>>12500046

>>12510291
too late. I shower every day and apply antimycotic cream whenever it gets bad, but it developed on a several days trip in nature and it seems it's here to stay..

>>12510324
Harvest the mushrooms and sell them for mega-profits!

>>12510334

>>12510315
Prevents penile cancer
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3139859/

>>12510316
I got a circumcision as a baby and don't remember it at all so guess it wasn't that big of a deal.

>>12510253
Yep cut penises are objectively better and I will get all my sons cut and will tell my sons to bully uncut kids in the locker room.

>>12510348
Congratulations for arguing that raping girls after you drug them into unconsciousness is A-okay, monster.

>>12510353
What if uncut boys out number him by then, and he is mocked and humiliated like the Jews in the days of Rome?

>>12510360
If a girl gets raped and there's no evidence and she doesn't remember it and she doesn't experience any trauma physically or mentally, for all intents and purposes it wasn't a big deal

>>12510345
That falls under the "so small no one would want it if they had the choice and weren't literally retarded" category. Instead of wasting money on the surgery, buy a treadmill and use it. Exercise is FAR better at reducing cancer of, almost all sorts, than circumcision is.

>>12510367
Rape also is a much bigger crime than what it really is because of our culture. Just ruthlessly beating a woman is much worse a crime than rape, but I feel like people have a much stronger emotional reaction to rape. That's bad for sentencing, justice is not served when it's arbitrarily harsh.

>>12510367
So you support needless genital mutilation AND date rape? Jesus Christ, man. Clearly you aren't okay.

>>12510362
Being cut makes you more alpha so they'll dominate uncut betas even if they outnumber them (which they won't because cutting will always be in the majority)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5065403/
>social anxiety and anxiety levels decreased after circumcision

>>12510374
I think date rape is needless but circumcision is important for making us alphas.

It's quite obvious from reading these exchanges that circumcision is the great enabler, and a root cause of many problems modern day. No issue can be solved until genital cutting is exterminated from the face of this planet. The trauma bonding double bind and irreconcilable grief is simply too powerful. I'm convinced it leaves the individual ia constant low level sort of dissociative hypnosis.

>>12510378
This is false. The same parts of the brain that controls sexuality, also control aggression. Therefore, by leaving the glans constantly exposed yes you can facilitate a higher baseline level of aggression, but odds are it manifests as passive aggression and quickly flips oover into submission in the face of power and authority. HAving your glans exposed is arousing, so it hypersexualizes the individual.

Just look at Jews, do you associate them with dominance and masculinity? No. Jews infiltrate and make their way by feminizing themselves, they come to you almost as a child does. The brutality, domination, and sadistic aggressive urges play out through other channels and another pattern.

Though in some cases circumcsion may produce men who are angry and aggressive all the time, I don't think it's the norm.

Your paper studied adolescent circumcision in Turkish men in a ritual and culturally entrenched manner. Worth noting, around 100 years ago studies in this same population found major destructive effects, from developmental regression to paranoia, to resentment of the mother.

>>12510378
>>12510381
Wow... this is such a sad attempt at justification that it actually made me depressed. It's okay to say that you were harmed. You don't have to take out your frustration on other innocent babies. You can help us end the cycle. You can help us make sure you are the last generation of victims.

>>12510404
They won't. At least, not with great enough certainty. I don't want to take the chance personally, exterminating the practice involves going after the one's who perform it. Converting the population is just too slow and clumsy as a primary strategy.

>>12510399
>Your paper studied adolescent circumcision in Turkish men
Actually, sorry I barely bothered to read it. Just skimmed. Yeah, these are men who were voluntarily circumcised within a circumcising culture. Big surprise at the outcome.

>>12510423
>sorry I barely bothered to read it.
This is the TYPICAL level of "research" that pro-circumcision people perform.

>>12510423
>>12510441
samefag
That's not me

>>12509962
The same logic applies to removing the glans or the clitoris.

>>12510210
Pic related. Removing tissue with nerve endings removes sensations. Doctors agree on this, the only ones who do not are coincidentally the doctors who profit off of it.
>Also, why do anticutfags always get so enraged?
It’s a human rights abuse and people trivialize it. I don’t condone anger, but I understand why people get mad.

>>12510253
>autocleaning dick
Why not tear your fingernails off and have auto cleaning nails?
>get a bigger dick
It shortens it. See >>12509019
>harder erections
Source? Is it really worth losing more nerves than the clitoris has?
>women love circumcised dicks
The men where breast ironing and female genital mutilation is prevalent love and prefer women with destroyed bodies. This doesn’t make it right.

>>12510271
Not a refutation or argument in sight.

>>12510289
Women have far more issues with their genitalia, shouldn’t this make female genital mutilation more important than male genital mutilation?

>>12510292
Cut off the clitoris or the glans and you’ll likely get the same results.

>>12510307
>human rights and basic bodily autonomy
>your opinion
Yeah, I guess you deserving human rights is just an opinion you hold too.

>>12510345
Removing female breasts would prevent breast cancer and they won’t have to wash it either!

>>12510367
Is fgm okay if it’s done to an infant? What about cutting off an infants limbs? Sure their body is damaged, but it doesn’t matter as they can’t remember it.

>>12510378
>cutting will always be in the majority
Approximately 77% of males have intact genitalia.
>social anxiety and anxiety levels decreased after circumcision
I’m sure certain lobotomies can have this effect too, this doesn’t make the alteration morally right. It is up to the individual to decide whether or not they make their body needlessly mutilated.

>>12510444
I didn't say it was you. I said "barely bothering to read a source" is typical behavior of cut-fags.

>>12510441
>>12510444
Sorry for the confusion. That was an addition to my post. I said they were adolescents, they weren't.

Some Jews will use their nails to tear of genitalia flesh and then they will suck on the wound with their mouth.

>>12510456
>Is fgm okay if it’s done to an infant? What about cutting off an infants limbs? Sure their body is damaged, but it doesn’t matter as they can’t remember it.
Those have no benefits and only harm.

>>12510475
YEp. That practice began after the Rabbis found out that Jewish men in ancient Greece and Rome were restoring their foreskins so they could become more a part of the generla civic life. This threatened their insular nature which threatened their control, afterall, the covenant is supposed to sustain the JEwish people. So they went from just cutting off what wasn't adhered to the glans, to removing the entire prepuce (called low and tight today). This prevented restoration with weights etc.

>>12510475
Based

>>12510476
>no benefits
All of the excuses for mgm can be used to justify the other human rights violations.
>less tissue, less cancer risk
>you don’t have to wash it either!
>some fetishists will prefer it
>if it’s done to enough people, your child will feel left out, do it to them and they’ll have boosted confidence
>your body doesn’t function properly? sex is more difficult and you’ll last longer!
>you may have complications with the tissue in the future, just cut it off at birth

>>12510292
Circumcised men are more likely to prematurely ejaculate according to Eric Clopper

https://youtu.be/FCuy163srRc?t=2910

>>12510488
you're wrong
shitty analogies

>>12510476
Bullshit. Girls get smegma too. Almost all arguments that are used in favor of male circumcision has a fgm counterpart. Fuck you for being a disgusting trash (((human))) who defends mutilating babies.

>>12510494
who cares about this guy

>>12510495
Take your fingers out of your ears, coward.

>>12499556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cc2eBLc-8
The procedure is pretty cool.

>>12510495
>you're wrong
Not an argument.
>shitty analogies
How is it any different? If anything, some of the hypotheticals are less extreme than mgm as they may not remove as much tissue (the foreskin is as large as an IPhone), as many nerve endings (as in the clitoris), and/or might not even remove a part of the genitalia (as in needlessly cutting off the earlobes of an infant).

>>12510345
lets remove tits from woman so they wont get breast cancer then

>>12510528
>(the foreskin is as large as an IPhone)
That's another thing people don't realize, even uncut men. The sheer size of the foreskin. When it comes down to it, the foreskin makes up 40 - 60% of the penile skin. It's two layered like the eyelid. If you fold it all out, it's quite massive. It put a mark on my D right at the glans corona, pulled it back, and the amount of skin was fairly extensive. If I was a weirdo and wasn't superstitious also, I would record it and make a gif. Seeing is believing.

How can I forgive my parents for doing this to me?

>>12510547
>It put a mark
I*

>>12499556
https://www.scribd.com/document/248978688/CDC-proposal-on-male-circumcision-December-2-2014#scribd
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/78/1/96
If parents want to have their boys circumcised, then they have the right.
If they don't, then they have the right.

>>12499556
When we received our level one, blood was everywhere. It was hard to pinpoint one source of bleed, but the EMT holding pressure to neck gave me an idea. As an anesthesia provider, my primary concern is airway protection and ensuring that ventilation can occur. The EMT was able to establish airway control on the way to the hospital. According to the EMTs, they were called to the scene following a fight between two males. During the fight, one of the two pulled a knife and stabbed the other multiple times. The deep cuts to the individual’s forearm suggested his attempts to defend himself from some of the attacks, but it was futile and by the time he arrived to the ER, he was what we call “DOA” (Dead On Arrival).

>>12510554
>If parents want to have their boys circumcised, then they have the right.
True, because might makes right. False, because morally it's fairly undeniably an act of pure evil.

>>12510308
males are disposable, human trash
same reason why they save woman and children first
same reason why young males were drafted into meat grinder of wodls wars why females were kept safe
amount of females is chokepoint on how fast can population grow, one male can impregnate hundreds. this is a reason.

>>12510560
You're discussing philosophy not science. This doesn't really belong here.
People have different moral values and beliefs. In a free society let them as long as benefits outweigh the harms which medical experts believe that it does.
If you disagree on that assessment that's your prerogative. But if the medical community is willing to do circumcisions and their are parents willing to have it done on their boys or their are men who are willing to have it done on them for whatever health or cosmetic or religious reason, then it's going to happen and it's fine that it is.

>>12510348
and yet you still got brain damaged. brain scans show pernament changes in brains of circumsized babies. cortizol levels after such traumatic injury are still elevated one year after this "surgery".

>>12510572
I disagree. Morality can be tied to an absolute and objective basis. If a group purports to value this that and the other, it's an objectve metric by which to weigh the real world fruits of their actions. Circumcision, as an organizational strategy or for whatever other purpose, can also be judged. I think ultimately might does make right, so stomping this out will require a majority who will no longer tolerate the notion of playing with one's children like dolls.

>>12510576
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5416669/

>>12510409
only 50% of male babies in usa are now circumsized. with time, this practice will die out. we will look upon it like now we look on lobotomies treatment for psychiatric disorders they did in 50s

>>12510590
I don't want a slow fade, I want it gone. I was very fortunate to have a father who broke the cycle, and I don't want to live in a place full of cutting and cutters where a complete anatomy is a matter of fortune. I want it stomped out and the mere idea stripped from the collective consciousness as rapidly as possible. I am tired of letting it go and hoping it sorts itself out, some shit needs to be taken by the reins.

>>12510572
i wish some people would get their hands on some of these ((doctors)) and circumsize their throats, in minecraft

>>12510499
>attacking the person
Nice logical fallacy.

>>12510554
Does this logic not apply to fgm too?

>>12510587
They use an appeal to tradition to justify the practice. I really think further research is needed, especially unthwarted and unbiased research at that. Even if they’re correct, would other forms of bodily mutilation be justifiable if it didn’t damage the brain?

>>12510253
>>12510353
Absolutely ridiculous infantile-type thinking

>>12500186
>This is why I'm getting my future sons circumcised. I don't want them "pulling it back" and potentially discovering masturbation well before sexual development.
Whatever, jew. Literal brain damage. Why not just cut off your dick entirely?

>>12510856
This. Jerking off is fun. Just because it's more fun doesn't result in compulsively doing it to an extreme level. You're literally try to reduce the amopunt of fun possible for your sons under the vague notion that his deprivation in one area will allow him to achieve even greater things in other areas. It's like video game logic. Look back on all the great men throughout history who didn't need to cut their cocks to achieve things well beyond what you or anyone in this thread ever will.

Circumcision has a lot of benefits, Why all of you has so triggered by a useless part of the skin? I am circumcised and my dick is completely functional and sensible

>>12511402
>useless part of the skin?
Go to pornhub or something and look up foreskin play. For a useless bit of skin it seems to do quite a bit.

>>12511420
>pornhub
shut up coomer

>>12511433
https://www.pornhub.com/video/search?search=foreskin+play

;)

>>12511402
See >>12510456
It’s not just skin either, muscle is removed too. The foreskin contains more nerve endings than the clitoris. All of the excuses for mgm can be used to justify fgm or the needless removal of other tissue.

>>12511433
I’m not fond of pornography either, but this isn’t a refutation. There is abundant evidence that the foreskin is not useless.

>>12510308
>>12510569
^this. men are simply cannon fodder. men are disposable. no one will admit this, (especially women) but it is the truth.

>>12510253
>cut material away
>bigger

>>12500186
Post nose

>>12510569
What is it with whites and their coping using evopsych for their fucked up culture. Not every culture worships women.

>>12512309
*evobio

fixed for u

>>12512309
is there civilization that protects males and send females to die?

The Jews want to discourage gentiles from circumcising. Circumcision puts you into an eternal 5000 year old covenant of Abraham with the ancient spirit of Yahweh, and Jews want to keep this power to themselves, as this spirit's protection gives you perseverence and intellectual achievement. Only the Americans were based enough to appropriate the act of Circumcision much to the dismay of Jews

>>12513262
I suspect the contract is genetic. The circumcision isn't needed to activate it, it just tries to better facilitate via stripping down the individual will.

>>12500186
I am circumcised and i started masturbating when i was 10-11. It just varies between individuals, exposition to sexual stimuli, and whether or not you are using your brain (less brain usage with vidya, movie, music=more jerking || more brain usage with reading, socializing, creative work, building=less jerking)

>>12513262
>genital mutilation god
>a good thing

>Jews want to discourage gentiles from circumcising
>to the dismay of Jews
They had a part in making it popular in America and encourage it to this day.

>if you mutilate yourself you’ll get magic powers
My god says if you kill yourself you’ll get even more magical powers.

>>12499715
>Don't fall for jewish tricks, get your son's circumcised!

>>12500256
See >>12510494

>>12510549
Why the fuck would you want to forgive them when you could get revenge instead?

>>12500256
>Your glans still exist and are sensitive. Brainlet
I'm circumcised and my glans has almost zero sensitivity

>>12514881
Can you elaborate? Does it provide sensation, but just not feel good? Or no sensation at all?

>>12499866
Me at 19 bro. On the positive side it actually makes me glad I didn't have sex before I got it sorted out

Circ'd here. Sucks.

Relevant:
>>12513836

>>12499715
bad bait

>>12514963

Your glans have very little sensation beyond a very marginal capacity to detect touch. Your glans basically become rubber

circumcision is just genital mutilation, it is fucking sick that people do this to their babies. The people doing is for religion, come on, get real, do you think your god really cares? But the real idiots are the ones just blindly doing cus "well I got one when I was a kid".... break the cycle people.
Also keep reading comments about phimosis. I had this as a kid, my foreskin was stuck to tip, doctor just said to gently keep pulling it back, I did and one day it just unstuck when i went for a piss. No blood, no pain, it just unstuck itself. It's not like the actual flesh fuses together or anything.
Also I have heard women express concerns about it being dirty under the skin, to them I say, don't fuck dudes who don't wash their dick. Its called a gentlemen's wash and I do it with every bath or shower.

>>12510345
>cutting your fingers off prevents elbow cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N27f84KOQm8&ab_channel=thepenisproject

>>12515277
>actual flesh fuses together or anything
yes it is. the foreskin is literally fused to the glands from birth to 8 or 10 years old.

>>12500186
bro, I get that you are concerned about your sons' futures and that's a great thing. However, circumcision is gonna have the wrong effect. Circumcision made me a coomer because of the glans exposure, and I started jerkin it way too early. For many intact dudes the foreskin doesn't actually come back until puberty anyways, which would keep your sons from finding much joy in it. Knowing what it's like to be mutilated by RIC, I can assure you that you're gonna give your kids more self control and sexual competence with future spouses if you leave them intact, and they also won't grow to hate you for removing an essential part of their genitals.

>>12510856
if i were you, I'd encourage him to remove his balls instead so he doesn't have kids to circumcise

>>12501297
This is about the most retarded thing I've heard on 4chan. Congratulations you mental reject. In what possible way is a treatment that straightens the teeth equivalent to the removal of 12-30 square inches of healthy penile skin, nerves, and mucosa for slight hiv reduction and religious reasons?

>>12510554
Children are not property. If I want my newborn tattooed and pierced would that be OK too?

>>12510289
bro wash your fucking dick

>>12510210
>why so angry?
because the retardation of people like you is the reason I lost a part of my cock at birth, dumbass. I struggle not to be pissed off when I see some cunt like you driving others through the same idiotic, unneeded shit, which will permanently damage them sexually and requires years to partially fix.

>>12510308
yep, the establishment will spend our lives like dollars in weimar germany

>>12510324
that's wild, how do you get rid of them? Does that shit hurt?

>>12510345
Penile cancer occurs when a cell starts to divide out of control. If you have less cells, you have a lower risk of cancer. This is not an argument someone should be making on sci, because we could easily make it for any other form of cancer. Breast cancer, for example, kills thousands of women annually in the US. Why in the hell wouldn't we remove the breasts to prevent it, especially since one of the main justifications for MGM (male genital mutilation), the 50% or so reduction in HIV transmission btwn men and women, kills way less per year.

circ defenders should just be bludgeoned

>>12516009
nah, just remove their glans or clit. Clearly they don't value sexual function in the people they mutilate, so why should they have any?

>>12510345
Correlation is not causation

>>12516013
No, remove their penis bit by bit. First recircumcise them (as tightly as possible). Then start cutting off other pieces. That way it's quite clear to them how removing parts reduces sensitivity.

The type of brutality towards brainwashed post-traumatic people is tempting, but in reality if it was illegal and there were no doctors who would gleefully carry it out, there would be no circumcision. The medical system is the primary enabler, they are the problem.

>>12515328
Could be young as 3, or as old as 16. Average is 8-10.

>>12500186
gee...

>>12517533
heh

>>12500186
>>12513262
Based

>>12500186

>>12500186
Laumann et al. [5] found that circumcised men had different sexual practices from genitally altered men. Circumcised men were more likely to masturbate, to engage in heterosexual anal and oral sex, and to engage in homosexual anal sex.
- Laumann EO, Masi CM, Zuckerman EW. Circumcision in the United States: prevalence, prophylactic effects, and sexual practices. JAMA 1997; 277: 1052-7

>>12500186
why would you doom your son even more in this gynocentric western society? your daughter will be getting dicked down before she reaches maturity and you will rob your son of even his dick

remember to stretch phimosis bros.

>>12517920
i first orgasmes while trying to uncover my phimosis covered dick
phimosis went away shortly after i discribed that manipulating dick feels good, i literally bruteforced it

>>12518257
>phimosis went away shortly after i discribed that manipulating dick feels good
same as every other normal teen

>>12499974
wrong. this is why parents circumcie, they see thier kids dick and dont understand why the skin doesnt peal back like the parents dick, but that doesnt happen till 13

>>12501308
I havent had dick cheese since I was 10 years old and the doctor told me to start pealing it back to wash, even when I dont sower for a week

>>12499556
This post was better as it attracted more shills

>>12510572
What if the state decided to lobotomise you and it was scientifically/culturally accepted to do so without your consent? Would you make the same argument?

>>12508478
it's like having a relationship with a potted plant, and the plan has leaves that block other leaves from the sun. Why the fuck should you do anything about it, just let the plant grow as it pleases and be a nigger unto itself.

>>12499701
[math] /aleph [/math]

>>12499556
Being uncircumcised is like dating a chick with beef curtains. Get that shit fixed if your an adult

>>12521203
Not really since every guy is born with a foreskin. Beef curtains are just a genetic variation of a vagina.

>>12499715
Idiot
Completely misses the point

Because you cannot
pleasure yourself or a woman as effectively, since youre circumsised - that leads to a plethora of other mental problems

>>12521215
Just saying chicks see them as beef curtains for men. I’d prefer a chick with no beef curtains but that’s just me.

>>12514963
me too and yes
im almost asexual
I get bored during sex sometimes because thats how much real sex is stimulating for my cock

>>12499556

I think phimosis is caused by bacteria in blood stream. Bacterias produce toxins which damage protein. And is perhaps the best indicator. Similar to how they would tug hairs around the temple to analyze infection progression. The idea is you know the feel and nerves involved. If it changes you have an infection.

>>12500186
This is either the most efficient bait or the most retarded post i've seen this year.

>>12521221
They don't. I understand wanting that to be a general case, but it's not.

>>12521221
>I watch too much porn

>>12510572
parents have no right to violate their children's bodily autonomy unless there is a massive clear and proven benefit

>>12508478
god can suck my mutilated cock

>>12521301
Phimosis is primarily caused by forced retraction in infanthood. It tears the Balano-Preputial Lamina (see >>12517533). When it heals, the lamina which would have dissolved during childhood/puberty, is replaced by scar tissue which adheres to the head and tightens the ridged band.

ITT butthurt porn addicts. Jacking and pornography is the root cause of so many psychological issues in society today. I would gamble 75% of depression in males today is caused by an addiction to pornography. If masturbation doesn't feel good, or is even painful in the case of tight circumcision then many of life's problems don't get a chance to even bloom in the first place. Stop fapping start living

>>12515265
>>12521223
That sucks. I'm uncut, and while I don't make a habit out of polishing the knob directly, it's certainly not boring or useless. Circumcision causes internal parts to be permanently exposed, so you'd want to replicate that environment. Have you tried moisturizer or an oil? If you use lube you could try something like sliquid, aloe based, good for the skin. Also after a week or two of jerking off with frankincense essential oil (diluted in jojoba oil) I've found my sensitivity is vastly increased and my skin seems softer and healthier overall.

Unsoliticited advice aside, unless the nerve root itself was damaged when the anaesthetic was injected. I don't think that level of sensitivity is just the end of it. No pun intended. People with a lot of inner foreskin left would probably benefit from restoring as well.

>>12521803
I think it could probably go either way, but I'd say the addiction to porn is facilitated by other underlying issues, rather than strictly causing them.

>>12521803
Lack of sexual pleasure makes men seek out different ways to make up for that pleasure. See >>12517815