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>1900
horses, bolt action rifles
>1950
jet airplanes, nuclear bombs
>1970
computers
>2020
computers in your hand

Why has technological growth slowed down to a crawl? This is what 2020 was supposed to look like.

>> No.12486272
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Monopolies on tech due to government affairs
https://itsfoss.com/fact-intel-minix-case/

>> No.12486276

Low hanging fruit has been picked and we're waiting for paradigm shifts in several fields. Also less warfare driving innovation

>> No.12486307

It turns out tech development relies on social development to an extent. So if you can't just expect tech to develop at a smooth rate regardless, and ignore social issues. Tech development needs an efficient and strong economy to support it, and if social problems are majorly fucking with the economy, they will also restrict tech development.

>> No.12486314

>>12486276
>less warfare driving innovation
Big reason right here

>> No.12486921

>>12486267
>Why has technological growth slowed down to a crawl?
It didn't slow down, it just changed direction in the US. We are in the midst of a renaissance in social technology, specifically automated retardation, on a massive scale. People love it and we're getting better at it.

>> No.12486930

>>12486276
>less warfare
>there's literally multiple wars going on at any given moment

>> No.12488567

>>12486267
>slowed to a crawl
The computer in your hand is a more complex engineering feat than nuclear bombs.

>> No.12488785

>>12486267
>This is what 2020 was supposed to look like.
kys retard

>> No.12489242

>stopped using nuclear and fell for the renewable meme
>transistors approaching their physical limit
>megacorporations taking over monopolies and leading to stagnation in competition.

And then there's the politics part

>> No.12489272
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>>12486267
Lack of hardship and struggle.

>> No.12489281

>>12486267
If you went back to 1970 you'd realize how silly this thread is

>> No.12490210

>>12486267
Because the left took over.

>> No.12490214

>>12486272
Monopolies are bad, anti-trust laws haven't been enforced with intel enough. But this is far from being the only reason let alone the first reason.

>> No.12490220

>>12486267
Let me correct ya:
>2020
Computers in brains.

>> No.12490229

>>12486267
We haven’t bottomed out on silicon technology yet. Gotta wait for 3nm proliferation before the next big surge.

>> No.12490232

>>12486267
>computers in your hand
That is an absurd understatement.

>> No.12490303

>>12486930
not between major powers

>> No.12491201
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It's advancing in other ways that aren't immediately obvious. The leaps forward in Li-ion batteries over the last 20 years is incredible and has resulted in small lightweight reusable batteries that can hold a decent charge and have all sorts of useful applications.

I stand by my belief that the best invention of the 21st century is the cordless vacuum cleaner. I used to fucking hate vacuuming my house but now it's a piece of piss, I can be done in a minute or two.

>> No.12491207

>>12488567
This
>>12486267
False premise

>> No.12491596

>>12491201
Fuck you i hate that fucking shit
Just give me a me a 10m cord so i don't have to worry about the goddamn battery

>> No.12491634

It hasn't, you are just a zoomer.

>> No.12491688

>>12486267
Didn't the guy who predicted wifi/gps/bluetooth say that he's predicting that we can "upload our conscious" by 2050? Right now we've got bionic lenses in the works which could be made commercial by the late 2020s, and in turn bionic limbs should well and truly become viable for everyday life. Automation should make lots of stuff redundant over the coming decades, but yeah I'm not expecting any mindblowing cultural changes like the transition to mobile technology for another decade or two minimum. See you in 10~20 years, hopefully something good happens by then.

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>>12486267
1900-1990 was the golden age of US science and culture. We're currently in decline, which is why progress has slowed, but hopefully China's able to pick up the slack in a couple decades.

>> No.12492794

>>12486267
>This is what 2020 was supposed to look like.
Limos? Skyscrapers? A really big ferry?
I love Syd Mead's aesthetic but from a technological standpoint you don't have much of a point.

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>>12486267
moron

>> No.12493327

>>12486930
https://youtu.be/DwKPFT-RioU?t=14m

>> No.12493331

>>12486930
Asymmetric wars. You don't need to try that hard when most of your wars are fought against people who's military hardware is 50 years out-of-date.

>> No.12494323

>>12491201
>Not having a roomba
Ngmi

>> No.12494470

>>12486267
>supposed to look like
...supposed by whom? Graphic artists?

>> No.12494788

>>12486267
Marginal increases in innovation require increasingly more complexity + specialization. It's just expected that as things become more and more refined, more education/intelligence is needed to make a real improvement on it, that's probably why there were so many simultaneous inventions back in 17xx or 18xx despite there being so few educated+smart people compared to today.

>> No.12495887

>>12493305
Phone maps suck. I’ll take my Garmin over any of them.

>> No.12496107

>>12491201
Cordless vacuums fucking suck, and not in the good way. Only useful for small messes.

>> No.12496147

>>12486267
No new physics. The theory of aircraft was worked out in the late 19th century. 50 years later we had jets and rockets. The theory of atoms was worked out in the early 20th century, 50 years later we had nukes. The theory of computing was worked out in the mid 20th century, 50 years later we got computers. All of the physics done in the late 20th century was either abandoned due to cost and the end of the Cold War or was just plain horseshit.

>> No.12496160

>>12489281
I can remember the 1990s and aside from no phones and solid state storage there was basically no difference. Same jumbo jets, same car performance, same ULA rockets

>> No.12496168

>>12491201
This is true. Hoverbikes are going to be a thing soon and /sci/ still laughs at the concept. Which is another reason why tech is dead. If it's not an app everyone dismisses it as a dumb gimmick. There is not much drive for mechanical innovation anymore.

>> No.12496297

>>12486267
maybe you should look into how much manufacturing and materials science has changed. The premise is flawed and you're simply ignorant of the important changes in recent times

>> No.12496386

>>12496297
>there is change but you just can't see it
coper. tech is dead

>> No.12497424

>>12494788
This is also why the "Renaissance Man" is pretty much extinct and most big advances in any science are accomplished by whole teams of people rather than a single visionary genius. The amount of time and effort it takes to become a leader in any one field makes it nigh impossible to achieve the same recognition in any other field.
Imagine being hailed as the founder of multiple scientific disciplines and one of the smartest people ever simply because you were the first to apply scientific reasoning to a question like "How old is that rock?"

>> No.12499089

>>12489242
>megacorporations taking over monopolies
This is probably the biggest thing. The human mind, and by extension ingenuity, is very antifragile and you could not have a worse environment for it than the sterile corporate culture that exists for the majority.

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>>12486267
Take anyone from the 1980s and show them real life 2020 and they'd be amazed by how futuristic it is

These retarded threads always conflate realistic tech advancements (which we are always achieving) with stupid cartoon scifi shit like bases on the sun or hoverboards.

>> No.12499116

>>12499089
The average human (thats you) needs to be told what to do by his betters. There will always be hierarchies and stratified societies in our civilization, corporations are just the currently useful model

>> No.12499128

>>12499116
t. Signs his emails "workcenter supervisor"

>> No.12499130

>>12486267
>2020:
compelx AI, comet landings, cheap space travel and cargo transport, electric cars, tech and Internet for every pocket, iamge of a black hole, advanced robots

you have to be seriously retarder in order to completely ignore the progress in the last 10 ro so years

>> No.12499142

>>12486267
Why has technological growth slowed down to a crawl?
>>>/g/

>> No.12499145

You always know you are dealing with a soiman when you hear them spew forth the unquestioned assumption that """tech""" (always conveniently undefined) is some interminable slope of eternal "progress" towards....something.
It could very well be that the laws of the natural world constrain our technological capabilities to a scenario of diminishing returns.
For all you know, we are at or very nearly at maximum technological capability right now. It is just as likely as eternal growth. In fact it's more likely than eternal growth.
If you weren't a manchild who thinks in terms of marvel comics and science fiction novels this would be immediately apparent to you.

>> No.12499148

>>12486314
Competition between China and the US seems to be pushing things along a bit.

>> No.12499159

>>12486267
>This is what 2020 was supposed to look like
We are significantly more advanced than that picture, right now
There is nothing in that picture that we haven't had for decades

>> No.12499692

>>12486267
What is the bootlicker thinking about?

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>>12486276
>Also less warfare driving innovation
Interesting. So we need people to actually get shot and not just build tanks and drones en masse, you're saying?

>> No.12499868

>>12491688
>mindblowing cultural changes like the transition to mobile technology
Yeah, shitposting in the train for sure is mindblowing and pushes our race.

>> No.12499879

>>12496386
>1970 computers big as buildings
>2020 computers size of credit cards

>1970 hard to implement machine learning algorithms due to hardware limitations
>2020 your face gets detected by anything that has a camera

>1970 no self driving cars
>2020 self driving and self docking rockets

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>>12499159
>There is nothing in that picture that we haven't had for decades

>> No.12500570

>>12499861
The DoD is just a jobs and corporate welfare program in peace time, as results aren't needed or expected.

>> No.12500585

>>12500048
>>Responds to a comment with an entirely different picture

>> No.12500648

>>12493305
>mechanical cameras don't need batteries
>mail doesn't require electricity
>radio doesn't require wi-fi/cell connection
>phone doesn't require the power to be on (separate line)
>alarm clocks won't wake you up in the middle of the night with a b.s. notification
>news paper doesn't require electricity
>cassette recorders record higher quality audio
>boom box forces you to actually listen to albums, which are arranged in a particular way the artist wanted
>dumbass, there are atlas books which have detailed maps (way more detailed than google)
>Get a fan for whitenoise... increases air circulation
>why would you watch Netflix on your little phone?
>you lose all of your contacts once you lose your phone... great!
>why wouyld you watch hulu on your phone?
>video camera is about the only correct usecase
>compass only relies on the Earth's magnetic field to work

>> No.12500801

>>12486267
>2000
computers in your hand
>2020
computers in your hand

>> No.12501284

You seem to believe computers in your hand are a small achievement.

>> No.12501679

>>12486272
that blond girl looks like the same one in that funny foto at the ball park where the guy next to her has his hand around her neck.

>> No.12501782

>>12500648
Based retardposter

>> No.12501793

>>12500648
>you lose all your contacts when you lose your phone
Poojeet android user spotted

>> No.12501852

>>12491201
Zero capacity in those things.

>> No.12501854

>>12492794
I think he means giant cats.

>> No.12501903

>>12486267
a whole array of things but the biggest factor is vaccination, now you get male kids who are obsessed with abstractions that have no basis on the real world and all they want to do is indulge in rationalism. this isn't the way science operates, far from it and the only results you get from it are ideas that sound cool but have no applicable purpose

>> No.12502060

>>12486930
With dusty AKs and technicals

>> No.12503571

>>12499879
>2020 your face gets detected by anything that has a camera
how is this a good thing?