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12478417 No.12478417 [Reply] [Original]

Does public health messaging benefit from making medical procedures a media ritual?
https://www.twitter.com/MichaelMN379/status/1339738195194462210

Cool it with the cameras doc.

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https://www.twitter.com/7tine76/status/1339728209827532801

>> No.12478495

I've passed out from shots too because I'm a fucking loser when it comes to them. with the added pressure of TV on you it's not unreasonable to pass out.
shit thread

>> No.12478505

>>12478417

So what exactly is wrong with mRNA vaccines?

>> No.12478510

>>12478417
>>12478442
She cute

>> No.12478511

I get a flu shot every year and it makes me dizzy for about a minute and I have to sit down
t. gigachad

>> No.12478516

>>12478417
hahaha willingly taking the poison

idiots criminals liars frauds fools and devils, all of them

>> No.12478525

>>12478495
It was 17 minutes after she got the shot

>> No.12478527

why the fuck do you two get dizzy? its not like theyre drawing blood or anything

>> No.12478564

>>12478510
The hot nurses burden, always first picked to do the hospital's media and photo ops.

>> No.12478568

>>12478442
With sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th1bHcH6LaA

>> No.12478572

>>12478417
Imagine being retarded enough to take this vaccine.

>> No.12478581

>>12478572
but they said its safe man they did trials and shit

>> No.12478591

>>12478581
nothing covid19-specific about this, when i got my flu shot they told my to wait for 30min in the waiting room afterwards because i might get an allergic reaction
A small portion always do and it can be fixed with an EpiPen shot.

>> No.12478593

>>12478511
>>12478495


Pfizer shills are on full force lately

>> No.12478594

>>12478525
Shut the fuck up, you massive fucking retard.

>> No.12478597

>>12478417
Story with sound
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1608261661277.webm

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>>12478442

>> No.12478599

>>12478594
>oh noes, facts

>> No.12478602

>>12478511
why the fuck are you getting flu shots?

>> No.12478605

>>12478599
its not the fact
it's what you're implying with it

>> No.12478608

>>12478605
stfu never works, retard
never

>> No.12478611

>>12478602
because cheese & ladders

>> No.12478612

>>12478597

Are these even doctors? That's not how I would expect doctors to catch/react to someone passing out in front of them with verbal and visual warnings it is going to happen.

>> No.12478616

>>12478572
dude. it's science. you can't refute science.

>> No.12478617

Media:
https://newschannel9.com/news/coronavirus/first-frontline-workers-in-chattanooga-get-covid-19-vaccine-thursday
>Dover also told us she has a condition where she often faints when she feels pain, so this wasn't a surprise to her that it happened.
>Dover soon recovered, and minutes later was able to get up and speak with us on camera again. The doctors there at CHI Memorial said this is not related to the ingredients in the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.
>"It just hit me all of the sudden, I could feel it coming on. I felt a little disoriented but I feel fine now, and the pain in my arm is gone," Dover said.

>> No.12478620

>>12478591
This, but it's a good reason not to do media conferences of a medical procedure when something could go wrong like an adverse reaction.

>> No.12478626

>>12478612
1. Doctors don't do physical things like moving patients, nurses and paramedics do and have no instinct for actual vody work. 2. General reluctance to touch/hug a woman after metoo.

Correct response would have been to prop her over your shoulder and carry her to the chair or bed.

>> No.12478627
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>>12478417
I normally like getting needles and injury just because it's something a bit different and have self-operated on my arm to get splinters out which was painful and bloody.
But one time I cut my hand not even that badly and everything seemed fine until 1/2 an hour later when everyone started saying "are you okay, you've gone really pale." I didn't pass out or puke but was on the edge of doing both.
Nothing like it before or since. Weird, just seems to randomly happen sometimes.

>> No.12478629

Science has proven that pain is weakness leaving the body.

>> No.12478641

>>12478620
the truth shall set you free
I'm getting the shot the second they let me have it. Stupids will do what they always do.

>> No.12478642

>>12478572
Imagine being retarded enough to think this vaccine is harmful because you can't sit through a simple organic chemistry textbook.

>> No.12478643

>>12478617
The real crime is she doesn't have an instagram with bikini pics.

>> No.12478649

>>12478617
If it was pain related why did she faint 17 minutes later?

>> No.12478653

>>12478649
because if you're someone who passes out from shots, like me, you still feel where it happened just from normal motions in your arm.
I get queasy for up to 30 minutes after a shot, I have to sit in the hospital lobby.

regardless, what's the point of this shit thread. do retards actually think a shot can make you pass out because of the ingredients, and that this wasn't noticed in the 200,000 test cases

>> No.12478658

>>12478641
>the truth shall set you free
Not for herding the public en masse. Bad vision elicites a disproportionate risk avoidance response. They do these media ops to propagate good vision and instill public condifence in the process, an own goal if instead you showcase dramatic SE's and make people fear it. Do medical procedures behind close doors. If you film it, control the vision and don't do it live with 3rd party media.

>> No.12478665

>>12478653
>>12478649
It's obviously an adverse effect to being injected with the vaccine. It's not a significant one, just a visually dramatic one, and it is something that can happen with any vaccine or injection. Best practice is for any vaccine administration is to keep the vaccinated person around for an hour or so just in case something like that happens, dumb to have media there filming it.

>> No.12478676

>>12478665
yes and it has nothing to do with the contents of the specific vaccine, but rather the process of being injected

>> No.12478682

Anyone who trusts these people is a doomed fool

>> No.12478690

>>12478653
>what's the point of this shit thread
Because a lot of normies are going to be freaked out by it and /sci/ big brains should be ahead of the narrative. Also general discussion about adverse side effects with mass vaccine admin, and best practice for science/medico media and messaging.

If she got in a car and starting driving home and collapsed at the wheel, or went for a swim, or a bath etc. it could have been bad. If they don't have procedures to cover the possibility of those adverse effects in the rollout then non-neglible numbers of people will be afflicted by it.

>> No.12478695

Gardasil HPV vaccine made girls infertile, so did the WHO vaccine in Kenya sterilise over 150,000 girls
why should I tough this garbage with a 50 foot pole when psychos with no medical qualifications are crawling all over this.

>> No.12478699

>>12478690
those are things that you need to consider for EVERY SHOT. it is not a unique consideration for the covid vaccine.
if you are somebody who gets nauseous or lightheaded from vaccines, you will know this already because it's been happening to you your whole life. exactly like what the nurse in the video said afterwards.

>> No.12478728

>>12478699
And the COVID vaccine is uniquely important, of a social totality mass scale, and needing of the public trust and condifence to end a pandemic.

>> No.12478729

>>12478695
because you are cattle and if you wont take it then you wont travel, get insurance, wont find work, wont get loan, will not be able to use banks and so on.

You will take vaccine or you will starve to death.
Okay goyim? No? Okay then.

>> No.12478734

>>12478676
Premature to say that. You know that if it wasn't reported as an adverse reaction to the company and regulating body (which is would have been) it would be derelection of legal duty.

>> No.12478817

>>12478642
>projecting
Don't you have a reaction balancing homework to finish?

>> No.12478837

>>12478605
That we shouldn't rush to take an experimental vaccine that was developed in record time with a technology never applied to mass scale vaccination?

>> No.12478840

>>12478729
Are the elites pushing this suicidal?

>> No.12478842

>>12478837
if somebody got hit by a car the month after getting the vaccine you'd use it as evidence to not take it. "the vaccine makes you too magnetic and as such has the chance to pull you into oncoming traffic"
just admit you're looking for anything to justify your refusal to read the primary sources.

>> No.12478843

>>12478602
Why the fuck not?

>> No.12478852

Why do we let a bunch of adrenochrome addicts who delude themselves that the visual hallucinations they see from dmt trips are actually demons from another dimension and use it to justify being degenerates and trying to harvest "negative energy" by making people miserable not realise they really aren't the special servants of molloch?

>> No.12478860

>>12478417
retarded idiot, if theres a side effect of the covid vaccine its not gonna be somethin that happens like the same day as you get the shot. This was purely psychosomatical and youre not really helping with your retardnes..

literalyl kill yourslef and all of your family so your idiot genes dont survive

>> No.12478876

>>12478860
Midwit post.

>> No.12478877
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>>12478417
>center of attention
>20 cams pointing at her
>probably nervous for three days straight
>cloth over her mouth
>gets injected with god knows what directly into her bloodstream without any filter

I wont take the shoot dont get me wrong but my guess is she just fainted

>> No.12478886

>>12478842
>if somebody got hit by a car the month after getting the vaccine you'd use it as evidence to not take it.
lmao just like how they listed these deaths as covid deaths hahahah

>> No.12478894

>>12478886
whether or not that's true, it's entirely irrelevant to what I just said

>> No.12479046

>>12478817
Awww, the idiot is still scared from failing high school chemistry. How does it feel to know that even the jock that bullied you made it through an honors biochem degree?

Retard.

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>>12478417

>> No.12479062

>>12478442
@0:33
>not tonight hun I have a bad headache

>> No.12479093

The religion of science, it doesn't matter how it works, or even if it works properly, if the average Joe reaps the benefits he will bend over and pray.

Asimov was really onto something eh.

>> No.12479104

>>12478894

you made a strawman argument, you stupid redditor.

>> No.12479107

>>12478877

she went into shock and is in the ICU lmao

>> No.12479127

>>12478417
>https://twitter.com/CBS4Local/status/1339318113653960706
They're faking it now kek

>> No.12479134

>>12478417
Clearly unrelated to vaccine itself but of course politicised retards are gonna take it as a confirmation of their bias that it's satanic poison made to turn everyone into mindless slaves.

>> No.12479147

>>12479134
Maybe if cunts stop making a show out of getting vaccinated the retards won't treat it as a show. Crazy ideia right?

>> No.12479193

There is no way to prove any of you are conscious or real. Just like I cannot prove this video is fake. People want to riot over a man being accidentally killed. No one wants to riot over everyone losing their pay during the government shut down 4 years ago. During that time the government knew blood shed won't arise from them shutting down (america when trump took office and goverment shut down for 2 weeks and kicked people out of their homes and people went into debt because goverment jobs didn't pay their workers) people will riot over a 300 year old incident. Christopher Columbus but no one will riot over everyone getting robbed. 3 trillion breaks down to 10,000. for each accounted citizen. Your child is accounted for. But the census account for each person. So not all citizens are legal. Which means you could have earned more then 10,000. If your in a house hold of 8. That house hold could have earned 80,000 if it was not filled with illegal citizens. But only 2 people where adults and only one was affected by covid. So you may have earned 8-9,000 from covid. But your house owes 80,000

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could this image that was making the rounds be deboonked pls? i.e. would it be detectable in changes in DNA in perhaps sperm? Would it be easy to test ovaries or whatever for changes in fertility given this model?

>> No.12479211

>>12479127
Stupid media photo op ends up reusing needles and syringes on different people. The absolute state.

>> No.12479219

Remember boys and girls, any medical condition you have while you have covid is the fault of covid, regardless of it is was pre-existing or not. Any medical condition you have when receiving the vaccine is in no way, shape, or form connected to the vaccine, regardless of if it has ever been seen in you before or not.
These are the rules of science and are not subject to being questioned. Anyone who deviates from this is anti-science.

>> No.12479223

>>12478527
I can get dizzy by kissing girls. So I don't like kissing.

>> No.12479225

>>12478612
Nope, bill gates private operatives, think of them as a cia cell for globohomo ops

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>> No.12479275

>>12478837
Passing out from vaccines is normal shit, there's a reason why you cant get them in a diy pack at home

>> No.12479280

>>12479275
YOU WILL PASS OUT
YOU WILL GET THE NEW NORMAL FACE
YOU WILL BE HAPPY

>> No.12479284

>>12479054
kek

>> No.12479289

>>12478591
Okay why do we need to give billions of young healthy people a potentially life threatening anaphylactic shock from a vaccine they don't need?

>> No.12479295

>>12479289
World is overpopulated and earth is too small to provide us all with our needs

>> No.12479298

>>12478417
>>12478495
Thats the hole point of the thread faggot. Yes, degrading science and intellectualism to available to everyone and something everyones opinion is equal on, introducing the media circus to has definetsly made everything better. Lets not forget this cycle has happened many times already. Fuck it, we're already beyond saving at this point.

>> No.12479300

>>12479289
UK rollout has has 2 cases from 100k administrations. It's not frequent response. Keep the person in the waiting room for an hour and don't film it. Treat the rare cases where it occurs. Public health > the few special snowflakes.

>> No.12479303

>>12479298
One point of the thread is for hospitals and public health authorities not to do dumb media stunts that cause the public to distrust medicine, like have nurses pass out on live TV or reuse needles like here>>12479127

Control the message. Film it yourself and release it to the media on your own terms.

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>>12479289
Because they are fighting overpopulation. Old people will die on their own pretty soon, but young people need some nudge.

>> No.12479307

>>12479300
>Keep the person in the waiting room for an hour and don't film it.
Hmm, also wear masks to prevent people seeing >>12479229?

>> No.12479319

>>12479300
So how do we know that it's not 20000 cases when you are already proposing to "Keep the person in the waiting room for an hour and don't film it. " and "Control the message. Film it yourself and release it to the media on your own terms."

>> No.12479323

>>12479307
Literally background noise.

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>>12479219
>95 year old obese woman with diabetes, stage 4 pancreatic cancer and high blood pressure dies from corona induced pneumonia
>"SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN NOW!!!!"

>25 year old healthcare worker suffers anaphylactic shock and after taking the vaccine
>"umm every medical intervention comes with a certain amount of risk. We just balance the risk benefit of a certain treatment for it to be used. Also that nurse had a preexisting condition, being allergic to parts of the vaccine, that led to her unfortunate death. This was not because of the vaccine"

>> No.12479335

>>12479300
2 reported cases

And I'd rather have 1000 80+ people on death's doorstep being pushed over the edge from covid than have one healthy individual die from this vaccine.

>> No.12479338

>>12479319
Because it's not for individuals to decide, it's for the State to decide public health policy as the body of the public. Adverse reactions are reported to governing authorities, and have to be by law. From there they get published and reported. Propagating vision of adverse cases harms public confidence in medicine, hospitals should not propagate images or video that elicite disproportionate emotinal responses from non-medical individuals. Instead, as normal, publish written reports to be considered soberly by the medical institutions of State who decide and implement public health policy.

>> No.12479344

>>12479335
Doesn't work that way in a democracy. If anything the old are worth more because they turn out and vote more reliably than the young. The adverse reactions don't cause death, they cause an inconvience that is easily treated in a proper setting with adrenaline. The correct response is to plan to treat it, make everyone hang around post-injection for a period of time, and be ready and able to treat an adverse reaction quickly.

>> No.12479346

>>12479327
>so what that this vaccine has 10% death rate
>grandma with cancer has 15% chance to die from covid!
>do it for the others!

>> No.12479350

>>12479344
So you actually think if we vaccinate 7 billion people not a single one will die if we already had to put people in the ICU after 100k?

>> No.12479365

>>12479350
Are there cases in ICU? The nurse in OP recovered after a 10 minute sit down and a glass of water (not that it makes it meaningless). Allergic reactions are not difficult to treat in a proper setting, which if planned for are easy to implement, the problem is if they are not planned for e.g. if the injections were done in an understaffed/equipped out-patient setting without doctors on hand and quickly kicked out the door.

>> No.12479388

https://planetes360.fr/un-ancien-cadre-de-pfizer-exige-que-lue-mette-un-terme-aux-etudes-sur-le-vaccin-contre-la-covid-19-en-raison-dun-risque-de-sterilite-potentielle-et-dautres-problemes-de-sante/
>Former Pfizer executive demands EU end COVID-19 vaccine studies over 'risk of potential infertility' and other health concerns

>> No.12479409

>>12479388
Is that the same guy who killed children in africa to fake clinical trials?

>> No.12479432

>>12479365
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/health/covid-pfizer-vaccine-allergic-reaction.html
2 cases in the same hospital. One in the ICU.

Also 2 cases in the same group of hospital staff makes it very likely these allergic reaction are happening way, way more frequently than 2 in 100k

>> No.12479462

You don't pass out from needles, you pass out from BLOOD LOSS when blood is drawn. 17 minutes later is obviously not related to the physical act.
Who the fuck cares either way?
You either think these are helpful and get it or you live in the real world and want those people dead anyway.

>> No.12479472

>>12478505
It's not a vaccine.
It doesn't stop getting the flu.
It doesn't stop spreading the flu.
It has a higher death rate than the flu
Sterilization of unknown duration.
Fucks with random cells stopping their regular behaviour. What could go wrong?
Immense financial drain.

>> No.12479477

Given that the liposome vector delivery method is non-cell specific, where are the studies showing which cell types end up expressing the delivered mRNA and producing viral protein? I know its injected into the arm muscle so you'd expect it to MOSTLY get into muscle tissue, but it could get into the bloodstream and go who knows where from there.

Can anyone DEBOONK me?

>> No.12479479

>>12479432
>way more frequently than 2 in 100k
UK is rolling out now, that figure isn't speculation. From the NY Times one of the nurses was succesfully treated with adrenalin, the other one responsed but relapsed and needed a prolonged IV steroids.

One nurse doesn't stop a pandemic response. All the cases show the need for observation post-injection, the ability to immeadiatly deliver adreanline at the setting, and the possibility to transport a patient to receive in-patient care via IV steroids. They are important provisions but not hard for a health care system to handle, adrenaline and steroids are very simple and cheap treatments.

>> No.12479491

>>12479462
So... Where did all the blood she lost went to?

>> No.12479493

>>12479462
>Who the fuck cares either way?
A lot of people will. Naive to think that imagery like this isn't peverse to good public health outcomes and non-medical confidence in the vaccine. They do these dumb PR stunts to make people confident in the vaccine, having media there film a nurse collapse is an own goal that elicites disproportionate fear in the public.

>> No.12479494

>>12479477
Have you looked at the FDA docs?
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-december-17-2020-meeting-announcement

>> No.12479500

>>12478505
We've never used mRNA vaccines before so we don't know. I consider that a problem but most DEBOONKERS here don't. Its not been studied long enough.

mRNA has been used in experimental gene therapy, but its frankly been a bit of a letdown. Its hard to get the mRNA to express in the cells you want, because liposomes aren't cell specific. To get a therapeutic effect for e.g. cystic fibrosis, you need protein expression the compensate for the faulty proteins in the relevant lung tissue. Getting expression in those cells is hard, and its also been found getting expression in sufficient levels is also hard. You need constant repeat doses.

The liposome contains PEG which is suspected to be behind some peoples severe allergic response:

<CANT POST LINK BECAUSE ITS FLAGGED AS SPAM>

I'm also wondering how much viral protein expression takes place how quickly, whether its been quantified. That's always been a problem with viral vectors, you WILL get a severe allergic response if you deal with high viral loads. Does everyone end up translating the viral proteins at a more or less steady pace? Does metabolism and uptake vary in people causing unusual spikes in translation?

Also for some reason this post is being flagged as spam. Faggot captcha.

>> No.12479501

>>12479494
Have you? First link is broken, 2nd is a bunch of random pdfs with no mention to what im talking about.

Just tell me, im not a redditor i don't need citations constantly.

>> No.12479504

>>12479500
><CANT POST LINK BECAUSE ITS FLAGGED AS SPAM>
Use archive.is to avoid this problem.

>> No.12479508

>>12479501
IDK, but it's silly to not go to the actual sources of info. The first link works fine. Go to the FDA homepage and find it yourself it you can't get it to load.

>> No.12479512

>>12479300
It was 2 reported cases in the very first day of administration. That led to the exclusion of anyone with a history of allergies being implemented as a general rule.

However not everyone who have a tendency for allergies have a written history of them. This will become a problem down the line because young people, who are not the main vaccination target now, have a higher rate of adverse reactions to the vaccine. And they also have a shorter medical history, so any medical reactions are less likely to be documented.

Also we're going on first doses here, second doses have more severe adverse effects.

It's just a question of when someone dies, not if someone dies.

>> No.12479515

>>12479508
I've got a specific tech question regarding liposome -> cell specificity and if there are any studies regarding this along with systemic mRNA translation rates

The FDA sites you've linked have zero mention of this. Do you know, or are you just randomly directing me to places?

>> No.12479520

>>12479512
>It's just a question of when someone dies, not if someone dies.
Keep the adrenalin handy and it's easily treated. Even NY nurse 2 could have been shot up again if she were not near a hospital for some reason. Adrenaline ampules cost cents and any monkey can pop the glass and load a syringe.

>> No.12479525
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While the survival rate of Covid-19 is 99.7% for most of the younger population the survival rate of the vaccine itself is currently an unknown. Legally you also have no recourse if the vaccine does cause damages. Aluminum prevalent in vaccines for preservation purposes is generally above the limit set by the FDA as non-toxic.

>> No.12479538

>>12479520
If you knowingly administer a patient anything that you know will lead to a life threatening complication, you'll not have a license anymore and could be charged with attempted murder too.
>Adrenaline ampules cost cents
And the two to five following days in the ICU on an epinephrine drip while your immune system winds down are free? Or did you seriously think that you just give them another adrenaline jab and then the whole deal is permenantly solved 100% of the time? Oh you did?
If you aren't a shill then don't be retarded like this. What about someone who feels okay, goes to the toilet briefly because lapse of protocol and passes out with full blown anaphylactic shock in there? There's lots of situations where this ends badly.

>> No.12479545

>>12479525
>Legally you also have no recourse if the vaccine does cause damages.
pfizer is free from responsibility due to idiot politicians waiving it for them, but if your employer or state forces it on you then you can hit them with lawsuits.

>> No.12479550

>>12479545
>employer
>Assuming some restaurant owner could pay for this if things get really worse
Not a problem for me, but it should be considered.

>> No.12479590

>>12479304
so why not tackle the races with massive overbreeding problems instead of whites with their below replacement birthrates?

>> No.12479599

>>12479538
Worst case take glucosteroids for a few weeks. People take steroids for years if need be. One special snowflake in New York doesn't stop a pandemic response. Have a sense of public policy and statecraft, not this neurotic individualism jumping at adrenaline shot shadows.

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>>12478442
who /pro-oxygen/ here?

>> No.12479604

>>12479515
IDK mate. It seems to depend on the adjunct, so perhaps start there:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243

>> No.12479608

>>12478442
>Built purely for anal and only anal.

>> No.12479610

>>12479600
Not me you bastard

>> No.12479617

>>12479590
Because said races eat dirt and whites consume resources elites can use.

>> No.12479655

>>12479590
They do, remember all the Bill Gates african meddling?

>> No.12479660

>>12479525
>Aluminum prevalent in vaccines
opinion discarded

>> No.12479672

>>12478417
>>12478442
>injections on live TV
Who thought this would be a good idea?

>> No.12479676

>>12479672
This, you should always be ready to quickly and quietly bury the patient if something will go wrong. Live isn't beneficial for that.

>> No.12479689

>>12479672
Some American spastic. See the other fuckup here from a different media op>>12479127
https://twitter.com/CBS4Local/status/1339318113653960706

>> No.12479727

>>12479479
The 2 nurses from the US who had allergic reaction work in the same hospital, the Bartlett Regional Hospital. According to this
https://www.zoominfo.com/c/bartlett-regional-hospital/12569563
they have 147 employees. Rounding this up to 150 and generously assuming they vaccinated all of them.

With a probability of 1/50000 for an individual incident of an anaphylactic shock like you claim, this would mean that 2 incidents of this occurring within this group of hospital staff is a 1 in 100000 event.

So you have two possibilities:
A: Doctors and the media are deliberately not reporting on side effects of the vaccine in order to ensure public vaccination adherence

B: This 1/100000 event of side effects happend

Now I think A is a lot more likely than B

>> No.12479732

>>12479520
People do die from anaphylactic shock.
Also what happens when some old fragile grandma gets a bad reaction? You just keep pumping adrenalin in her until her heart explodes?

>> No.12479748

>>12479727
Only one had a major allergic reaction that didn't respond well to adrenaline. The other mild case will be common to the vaccine. See the FDA data. The one in two refers to serious cases like the admitted nurse, not mild allergic reactions that need an adrenaline shot they respond well to.

>>12479732
Steroids. They can take multiple adrenaline shots. Then progress to steroids if needed. Cost nothing. Simple medicine.

>> No.12479753

>>12479748
*2/100,000

>> No.12479762

>>12479748
So you agree that there have to countless allergic reactions to the vaccine across the US and UK that are not being reported? Cool.
Now explain to me why I or any of my friends and family who have 0 risk of dying from Covid need to go through that.

>> No.12479770

>>12479727
The two UK cases were day one anaphylactic shocks. After that they changed the guidelines to exclude everyone with allergic history, so counting numbers after day one is misleading. The pfizer trials also excluded allergic patients.

It's extremely high risk of anaphylactoid symptoms in patients with allergic histories. Good for those with known histories, less so for those who find out about it from this vaccination campaign.

Also second dose will probably see a jump in these numbers due to sensitization of people in the grey area.

>> No.12479775

>>12479727
>A: Doctors and the media are deliberately not reporting on side effects of the vaccine in order to ensure public vaccination adherence
Literally a long ass article in the NYTimes in this very thread you fool.

>> No.12479776

>>12479748
>Cost nothing. Simple medicine.
Except for diabetes, osteoporosis, high blood pressure and the other numerous side effects

>> No.12479780

>>12479775

>NYT

bait

>> No.12479782

>>12479732
>People do die from anaphylactic shock.
That's why you give vaccines in a medical setting.

>> No.12479786

>>12479780
Kinda goes against the whole DA LIBRUL MEDIA IS HIDING THE TRUTH argument?

>> No.12479798

>>12479782
>It's perfectly safe to require medical intervention to survive a vaccination
Do you hear youself?

>> No.12479802

>>12479775
*underreported is the same as not reporting. Gives the illusion of transparency

>> No.12479813

>>12479798
Do you not eat food just in case you don't get an allergic reaction?

>> No.12479823

I think how Healthcare workers differ from normal people considering immune system. Due to their job they are much more likely to catch viruses.
I also wonder if they caught Corona before.

>> No.12479827

>>12479813
I need food to survive. I don't need a bunch of people who are artificially being kept alive beyond any reasonable age and quality of life to be kept from the grave for another 2 years.

>> No.12480004

The Novax church can breathe a little, but just barely.
It's going to be a tough year for them, maybe fatal.

>> No.12480011

>>12478442
"This will make a good news story and my FB feed will be on fire."

>> No.12480027

>>12479813
Do you wear mask and stay at home just in case you don't get some virus?

>> No.12480114

>>12478417
It's fake you fucking idiots. She is faking it and has an agenda against vaccines. Just like that nurse who appeared crying on TV about dying boomers claiming that COVID was fake on their deathbeds.

Nurses are horrible people, don't trust them.

>> No.12480119 [DELETED] 

>>12478417
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12480128

>>12478602
Because the grocery stor gives you 10% off your groceries if you get a FREE flu shot, and he's clamped, vaccinated, and circumcised. He used to being molested like an animal. It's normal. He's accepted it. You eat, you sleep, you get your flu shot. Simple as.

His brain has been so chemically lobotomized by now you probably can't talk him out of it.

>> No.12480223

>>12480114
>don't trust them.
Sage advice but they make fun human fleshlights. Doubt she called a press conference on her own. Someone arranged the whole thing and selected her. Who and why?

>> No.12480234

>>12480119
Pasta is fattening. You really should cut down on how much you have.

>> No.12480237

>>12479520
You are a whack job!

>> No.12480258
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>>12479782
>What do you mean I must have admitting privileges
>My body, my abuela

>> No.12480264

>>12479813
What food requires immediate medical intervention? Casu marzu?

>> No.12480271

>>12480264
Any food that makes you have an anaphylactic shock.

>> No.12480276

https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/covid-19-un-explained/
fascinating
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1300068591501369345.html

>> No.12480288
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12480288

>>12479046
not that anon. buddy, nobody thinks your undergrad biochemistry degree is rigorous. you need to study persuasion.

>> No.12480331

>>12480258
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12480382

>>12478417
I could've saved her, bros...

>> No.12480410 [DELETED] 

>>12480234
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481167
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12481167

>>12478442
>>12478417
link to her onlyfans?

>> No.12481257

>>12478442
>the rapid blinking right before she passes out
I've seen better acting on Stranger Things

>> No.12481342
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12481342

>>12478417
dude, her collapse was totally unrelated to the vaccination she just got. totally unrelated. It's strange that you would thing that. Why would you think that? Totally unrelated.

>> No.12481349

>>12478695
you could say that about literally any medication

>> No.12481360

>>12479335
>And I'd rather have 1000 80+ people on death's doorstep being pushed over the edge from covid than have one healthy individual die from this vaccine.
stupid false dichotomy

>> No.12481361

>>12478695
>Gardasil HPV vaccine made girls infertile
(it didn't)

>> No.12481371

Why does she wear her watch like that? It seems like the most difficult position for reading the watch face.

>> No.12481373

>>12481361
explain the lawsuits

>> No.12481374

>>12479827
>beyond any reasonable age and quality of life
do you know that? no you don't
i have older relatives who are 80+ and still have a perfectly good quality of life. but then they don't live in america where they stuff you full of prescription drugs from childhood and live on a diet of lard and coca cola

>> No.12481377

You still do not understand.
You will be FORCED to take vaccine. There is no "no thanks ill pass". They will make sure you will inject it.

>> No.12481392

>>12481373
I can file a lawsuit tomorrow accusing you of raping my 2 year old neighbor.

>> No.12481416

rofl @ people being shouted down as /x/ for being "anti-vaxx" here not even a few months ago. Fucking hack pseud /sci/, as I have always said for years whatever is the consensus of the idiots on this board THE OPPOSITE WILL ALWAYS BE TRUE. yYou fucking faggots should be finding the nearest "pol tard" and sucking their fucking dicks for telling you idiots wtf is really going on soi cucks

>> No.12481425

>>12481377
Maybe, maybe not. Getting corporations to do their dirty work for them has been working very well. You can refuse the vaccine but every business can refuse you service and your employer can terminate your employment. But remember, it's ok because those are private businesses not the government.

>> No.12481428 [DELETED] 

>>12481416
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481430 [DELETED] 

>>12481377
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481434 [DELETED] 

>>12478695
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481438

>>12481428
>>12481430
>>12481434
I think one of your libshit NPCs got aneurism

>> No.12481443 [DELETED] 

>>12481438
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481449
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12481449

Think this is her in the gray scrubs at the bottom of the image. Looks like she put on makeup for her tv appearance. The eyes, especially the eyebrows, appear to match.

>> No.12481491

>>12478840
>You will work or starve
>You will perform in school or starve
>You will take on debt to go to college or starve
>You will wear the uniform or starve
>You will work 8-5 for the rest of your life or starve
>You will acknowledge the customer is always right or starve
>You will turn your life into nothing more than a resume or starve
>You will never question your employers or starve

This is the condition of contemporary capitalism. In context of all the bullshit that most people have to put up just to have access to the system's resources including the already dozen or so immunizations they need before they can start their education, this new vaccine is one of the more benign ones. Your life is nothing but bosses, managers, and authority figures all the way down.

>> No.12481492

>>12479472
Yeah, it doesn't stop you from getting the flu. It's a covid vaccine dipshit

>> No.12481544

>>12478729
>you wont travel, get insurance, wont find work, wont get loan, will not be able to use banks and so on
This is totally fine though isn't it? As an owner of a business you have private property rights and you ought to be able to set the terms for anyone who wants to be a patron of your establishment. The markets will determine whether your conditions are too cumbersome and not you as someone who has no financial stake in the business nor the government.

>> No.12481582

>>12481377
We'll see about that

>> No.12481596

>>12481449
Blech!

>> No.12481629

>>12478642
>because you can't sit through a simple organic chemistry textbook.
>i know the basics so i know all of it
you know what thats called, right?

>> No.12481724

>>12478642
I'm willing to bet you're a 2nd year premed smartass who thinks they know it all because they took one intro level course.

>> No.12481736 [DELETED] 

>>12481724
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12481743

quick reminder to report all glowniggers when they spam threads

>> No.12481762

>>12481449
Not her dummy.

>> No.12481793

>>12478525
Precisely. You can have minor issues with shots and oxygen levels for hours after. They give pulse oximeters to those known to have issues and keep you at the office for the time so you don't pass out driving home.

>> No.12481795

>>12481762
I agree. I found other pictures of her and feel comfortable masturbating now.

>> No.12481852
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>>12478417
>Does public health messaging benefit from making medical procedures a media ritual?
Yes they actually do
https://youtu.be/CyB4gbcvxLs

>> No.12481863

>>12481852
>it's staged
For what purpose?

>> No.12481945

>>12481736
Guys, is this a bot? Can it read shitcrypted messages with keys provided in attached images?

>> No.12481958

>>12481795
Post them right nao

>> No.12481966
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12481966

Already debunked by factcheck.org. Bet you guys feel dumb now.

>> No.12481976

>>12481966
wtf I love the vaxxjew now

>> No.12481981

>>12479762
Non-anaphalytic allergic reactions are nothingburgers. Everyday people take millions of anti-histamine tablets. It's an OTC event.

The FDA approval has the data on allergic reactions, for the Pfizer vaccine it's 5%, for Moderna's it's 17%. Ordinary allergic reactions will be extremely common. What is extremely rare are serious reactions needing in-patient care, and even then it's responsive to adrenaline and steroids. Public health > a few special snowflakes on dexamethasone.

>> No.12481985

>>12479770
They need to be ready to treat it and plan for it to happen at the locations they administer the vaccine. Excluding those with severe allergic history is prudent.

>> No.12481986

>>12481966
I just saw @patriotpepe1776 post about this and he said this was proof this vaccine will kill you. I trust him more than some "fact check" blog

>> No.12481993

>>12481985
Or put them on tv.

>> No.12481994

>>12479798
You need medical interventions to survive life. Adrenalin and steroids are very basic cheap meds. Stop this naturalistic fallacy that we do not live as symbiotic creatures in close unison with advanced medicine. Everything about modern existence is as a result of advanced medical treatment and medicines.

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12481998

>>12478643
The real crime is vandalism, which she was arrested for about five years ago.

>> No.12482000

>>12481993
Absolutely not. Non-medical people should not have vision of medical procedures propagated to them, only the initiated should see the blood and guts of real medicine; like Semele to Zeus, to see the unocculded images of real medicine is to overawe and kill mere mortals with emotion.

>> No.12482004

>>12481998
Mate are legit autistic and unable to distinguish faces? For starters your jailfu has green eyes, the nurse has giant blue sapphires plugged into her skull.

>> No.12482007
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12482007

Doesn't look like being a nurse and single mother of two provides a very nice lifestyle.

>> No.12482011

>>12482004
Same name, same age, same city, poor image quality, wearing a mask. Sorry Sherlock, your girl is a criminal.

>> No.12482040

>>12482011
Go back to your coloured wooden blocks

>> No.12482048

Why is she so F*CKING hot?!?

>> No.12482054

>>12480288
I don't have an undegrad in biochemistry, retard. I'm just so much more competent than you, that I can now read through technical papers and pretty much understand what's being written.

My training is in engineering, doing my masters in science currently.
>>12481629
Yeah it's not being retarded. That's hard for you to imagine.
>>12481724
>Premeds
Is that what you called yourself before you dropped out of university?

>> No.12482058

>>12482048
Best practice is to have the hottest nurse at the hospital do the photo and media PR.

>> No.12482060

>>12480288
>you need to study persuasion.
Also it's called rhetoric you retard. You fail in STEM related subjects and in arts-humanities. What are you good at?

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>>12482058
Do they at least wear white stockings???

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12482194

>>12478510
>>12482048
>are you ready for your procedure anon?

>> No.12482234

>>12482194
That her??? Whats her ig???

>> No.12482256

>>12482054
>I don't have an undegrad in biochemistry, retard. I'm just so much more competent than you, that I can now read through technical papers and pretty much understand what's being written.
For some reason you are convinced that this is something extraordinary.
It just means you have set the bar very low for yourself.

>> No.12482280

She is definitely slavic. I had classmate like her from Eastern Europe. She was the hottest bitch in entire universe.

>> No.12482285

>>12481852
>>12481863
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/250449694969

>> No.12482296

>>12482054
>Yeah it's not being retarded.
>doubling down on extrapolating from the basics
ok dunning kruger retard

>> No.12482308

>>12482256
>For some reason you are convinced that this is something extraordinary.
It's not extraordinary. It's what's required if you want to utterly humiliate idiots like you without any mercy, which is what I'm doing to you right now.

Your parents should apologize to you for not medicating you when you were found to have low attention and emotional regulation. That's why you cannot get educated.

>>12482296
>from the basics
Who said an undergrad textbook was enough? Retards like you have a hard time following what was said. I'm saying you can't even get through that textbook, let alone go through a review paper about MRNA vaccine, you dyslexic weirdo.

>> No.12482309

I'll take the vaccine over your dead body.

>> No.12482311

>>12481852
My bad I have no idea how the link got fucked up

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/25044969

>> No.12482324

>>12478616
dude. it's a youtube documentary about 5g giving cancer. you can't refute that youtube and my man rogan

>> No.12482344

>>12482194
Even this woman has more courage than the pussies from /pol/.
Conservative brains have been shown to be more anxious than liberal ones.

>> No.12482370

>>12478417
The Vaccine is literally poison

>> No.12482382

>>12482344
>"liberals" go mindlessly head first into disaster while conservatives are cautious
sounds about right.

>> No.12482401

>>12482344
Liberalism (like the anti-vax individualism of right wing "conservatives") is a disease.

>> No.12482402

>>12482308
>It's not extraordinary. It's what's required if you want to utterly humiliate idiots like you without any mercy, which is what I'm doing to you right now.
>Your parents should apologize to you for not medicating you when you were found to have low attention and emotional regulation. That's why you cannot get educated.

You have some pretty heavy emotional baggage.

>> No.12482409

>>12482308
>>12482402
Like, I don't know what you meant by emotional regulation. It seems like everything you said is directed to yourself.

>> No.12482412

>>12478417
Thats a huge needle and a deep insertion. Anyone else not see the problem?

>> No.12482414

>>12482308
>want to utterly humiliate idiots like you without any mercy
Less acting power fantasies for personal psycho-drama, and more herding people thanks. Indulging in ego-boosts for personal revenge and/or sadism is not a public good. This is a blue board, elevate yourself, play the big brain and complete man.

>> No.12482417

>>12482412
Hardly. It's a normal IMI.

>> No.12482448

>>12481986
Based and @patriotpepe1776-pilled

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>>12479229

>> No.12482493 [DELETED] 

>>12482194
HHnnnng. Bros...

>> No.12482510

>>12482308
>Who said an undergrad textbook was enough?
>Retards like you have a hard time following what was said.
you made a retarded quip without following through and then i did the same
i followed what you said exactly, its your fault for acting like a one liner is a full explanation you fuckling autist

>> No.12482611

>>12482054
> Is that what you called yourself before you dropped out of university?

No I didn't. Unlike you, I'm not the type to pretentiously pride myself with the superficial knowledge I learned from intro level biology and ochem.

You can stop projecting now.

>> No.12482662

>>12479289
because they infect others

>> No.12482680

FDA allows a percentage of chocolate to have bugs and other shit in food.

There is an acceptable amount of danger in any case...


Remember a vaccine is 100% chance of not infecting people with a flu.

People who claim to not have been sick for years but suddenly get sick after a flu vaccine. NOPE, they where not sick from the vaccine.

Anyone who believes that get sick from a vaccine. YOU are just delusional.

Soap and hand sanitizers cannot legally say they kill 100% of germs. While doctors held at higher standards. Can say with 100% accuracy you cannot get the flu from inactive flu cells decaying in your body. White blood cells attack what is potentially harmful. If the inactive cells where not potentially harmful why would white blood cells attack?


There is so many conflictions.
Billy Nye. Points out zones that wear masks vs zones that doesn't wear masks. The zones that wear masks is the highly dense population. Where half the population. Lives. And cannot practice social distances well. Vs the other half of the population where social distancing is how they live. The ones who naturally social distance are higher infection rates vs the people who cannot social distance. And the claim for this is because of the mask.(which cannot prove who does and doesn't wear) looks like half the population is less likely to get sick. Sounds like heard immunity. But I am a tard. Who doesn't understand. So please don't believe the facts I point out. And listen to popular people who are trying to appease the crowd and say the opposite of the data.

If the vaccine has 1% fatality rate. And its given to 100% of the population. Then 70million are dead. Which is higher then Spanish flu and holocaust put together. But remember this isn't genocide. This is for the safety of the population.

>> No.12482734

>>12482680
>If the vaccine has 1% fatality rate
Fantasy land thinking. Come back to reality.

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>>12479207
This image is never debunked because it's 100% true.
It also contains details that deboonkers are too stupid and ignorant to understand.

>> No.12482805

>>12482734
I am not saying it does. It's just a scenario. The last time I checked the infected count. Which was two weeks ago. There was less then 70million.

And fantasy land is believe thanks to medical process the life expectancy has grown. When Egyptians had lived up to 70 years of age and older.

Or like I said. No one can get the flu from the flu vaccine. Even though people have reported it. Just no.

Every can get the flu. Not everyone gets the flu. Some people with the flu can die from the flu. Not everyone dies from the flu. Everyone can get a vaccine not everyone gets the vaccine. Some people claim to get sick after a vaccine. But that is false propaganda. Because if some people could get sick from the flu shot. It would mean some of those people could die from the flu. And cannot have that so any reports of people getting sick after a vaccine is just false information.

And when I looked at the covid results the mortality rate was 2-3%of current inffected. So a vaccine with 1% would indeed be better then the current morality rate. But I guess reducing the mortality rate is fantasy land. It's the goal of the vaccine. But 1% is just fictional idealism. *shrugs*

>> No.12482813

>>12478505
Nothing.

>> No.12482840

>>12481736
based

>> No.12482848

What would have happened if that happened to Trump? How credible would vaccinations be in the aftermath?

>> No.12482860

>>12482805
Your rambling a bit mate and your line of argument isn't good. No one would accept a vaccine with a 1% fatality rate, even if it were less than the COVID death rate because COVID infection can be avoided: not everyone will get infected. No vaccine candidate has anything like that as a fatality rate and if it did it wouldn't get out of trials. Have a sleep mate and think on it in the morning.

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>>12482848
Reason not to do medical procedures live, especially when the Pfizer vaccine causes adverse systemic reactions in 5% of people (Moderna's is 17%):
https://twitter.com/hildabast/status/1338843094242902019

>> No.12482873

>>12482860
>No one would accept a vaccine with a 1% fatality rate
Why not?
>vaccine has 1% death rate
>but this grandma with cancer has 10% death chance!
>do it not for yourself, but for others!

>> No.12482880

>>12478840
How are they suicidal if they will get no harm from that? 2020 decisively proved that you can do anything with the whole world at once and there will be no backslash.

>> No.12482888

>>12482873
Braindead post. No one would ever ever ever accept a *certain* 1 in 100 death to a *possible* 1 in anything death. Start with the difference between necessary and contingent facts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4GbEKx6po
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/future-contingents/

>> No.12482893

>>12482888
Anon, if you will link unrelated platoedu pages, your posts will not become any less of a word vomit.

>> No.12482913

>>12482893
Be a dumbcunt somewhere else.

>> No.12482925

>>12478417
When I was at school getting shots they used to have area laid out nearby for students to lay down who had passed out from the shot, it was usually the sickly looking kids and nerds that collapsed most of us just had it with no problems

>> No.12482926

>>12482913
You WILL sterilize yourself to save the grandma!

>> No.12482928

>>12482926
Thing is if they wanted to sterilise you with a vaccine they could of just done it on mass during your childhood where as most the people receiving the vaccine right now are elderly and can’t make kids anyway
Conspiracy makes no sense

>> No.12482937

>>12482926
You will always be an American.

>> No.12482958

>>12482928
>as most the people receiving the vaccine right now are elderly and can’t make kids anyway
Are you implying that they will not force the vaccine on people under 60? Good if so, but probably will not happen.

>> No.12482959

>>12482958
I don’t know about your country but in mine the government have stated many times the vaccine will not be mandatory

>> No.12482968

>>12482959
Good luck to the brave testers then.

>> No.12482983

>>12482959
They mean they'll use nudge measures to get vaccination rates up to 90% rather than the raw coercvie power of state. Government benefits and services will be limited to the vaccinated, and private businesses will be allowed to discriminate agains the non-vaccinated, and be encouraged to by insurers and industry best practice bodies.

If nudge measures don't get vaccination rates to 90+% they will revert to hard coercive measures.

>> No.12483009

>>12482983
Then you can just stay in the 10 percent unvaccinated to suit your beliefs and still reap the benefits of herd immunity, sounds like a win win situation

>> No.12483023

>>12483009
If I will get reduced rights but remain unpoisoned and many people around me will get poisoned, that sounds like lose-lose for me.

>> No.12483029

>>12483023
I have a god-like immune system I barely ever get sick so I won’t be having it as a see no point, if it sterilises all the other men and I’m left with a harem at the end of it I can’t see a downside

>> No.12483111 [DELETED] 

>>12483029
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483124

>>12483111
I’ve been arguing against the conspiracy theories you nonce. I just humour them because you have to respect people beliefs a lot of these pol types are unhinged and need talking down rather than just abusing and pushing further into paranoia by retards like you

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>>12483111
>This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483131

>>12478695
Based eugenic WHO actually enforcing racial hygiene and sterilizing niggers

>> No.12483141 [DELETED] 

>>12483128
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

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>>12483141
>t.

>> No.12483161

>>12483009
Dumb, anti-social, will be outcast of own volition from benefits and commerce.

>> No.12483164

>>12483029
>I have a god-like immune system
Pride comes before the fall.
>if it sterilises all the other men
Bizarre power fantasies.

>> No.12483188 [DELETED] 

>>12483131
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483190 [DELETED] 

>>12483160
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483201

>>12478591
>you need a 2nd shot to fix the side effects of getting your shot
kek

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>>12483188
>>12483190

>> No.12483216

>>12479289
>Okay why do we need to give billions of young healthy people a potentially life threatening anaphylactic shock from a vaccine they don't need?
Because it's about general allergies to all vaccines. The chance of going into anaphylaxis from a vaccine is so low that a young person is much more likely to get infected with and die of COVID than they are to suffer even a minor allergic reaction from the vaccine.

Do you understand statistics. That person was talking about the flu, and it's even true there. A healthy young person is far more likely to get seriously sick from the flu than they are to get even slightly sick from a vaccine. Unless you have a known history of allergic reactions to foreign substances, this isn't worth thinking about. If you do have such reactions, then it's worth a cost-benefit analysis

>> No.12483224 [DELETED] 

>>12483215
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483226

I'm not right wing but I'm getting apprehensive regarding the vaccine.
I hate that

>> No.12483235 [DELETED] 

>>12483226
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

>> No.12483239

>>12483226
Because a nurse fainted?

>> No.12483250

>>12478417
/sci/ has really become /pol/ now. Sad!
> Not knowing what a vasovagal syncope is
> Not knowing you can pass out after any shot
> Thinking it's an immediate reaction to what was injected

>> No.12483319

>>12483226
Yes, because you're a gullible, likely low IQ NPC who spends most of your time on a website dominated by delusional far-right morons who spend all day spamming (albeit genuinely-believed) propaganda at you, so naturally it's going to seep in through your thin and porous skull over time

>> No.12483323

>>12483250
>Believing that a woman who has fainted half a dozen times recently would be allowed to appear on tv as the face of the vaccine.

>> No.12483354 [DELETED] 

>>12483323
This endless stream of /pol/ fueled conspiracy garbage is getting exceedingly tiresome. It's just so fucking boring, monotonous, and unimaginative. At least put some fucking effort into your trolling you lazy cunts. Trolling is supposed to be an art, but all you fuckers do is flood this board with bottom of the barrel regurgitated and steaming horse shit. It's not even entertaining. No wonder m00t created that containment board. But unfortunately all it did was create a safe space for you mongoloids to get each other all riled up so that you build up the courage to shit all over the other boards too. Just fucking die in a nice, warm, and cozy house fire already. At least that would give us some respite from the cancer that you're spreading.

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>>12482840
>based

>> No.12483724

>>12480128
Wtf is clamped, I need to know now.

>> No.12483767

>>12479338
Shut the fuck up you fucking sheep.

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>>12479338
>the "state" is responsible for the death of over 200 million people in the 20th century alone let's trust them
Is there anyone more retarded and navie than a statist? You deserve everything you get friend. Darwinism and all

>> No.12483833

>>12482867
>>12482873

We should give Moderna to the baby boomers so potentially 12 million baby boomers would die to reduce the burden on social services.

>> No.12484190

>>12478641
Time stamp yourself, then return in a month.

>> No.12484214

>>12479280
Eat the bugs.
Live in the pod.
I'm hapoy.

>> No.12484226

>>12483226
Because your non-medical and your seeing vision, wrongly propagated by hospitals, that show some of the ordinary adverse effects of medical procedures that can occur. Instead of feeling confidence in American heathcare, you're feeling doubt. An own goal scored by hospital media departments letting the media and cameras in.

The only good way out is to become medical and overcome the uninitiated taboos about medical procedures generally. Go binge watch surgical videos on youtube of people being cut open, watch video case reports of people suffering and dying from disease and conditions. Read case reports of surgery and disease progression. Then after that stupid things like "nurse needs to sit down for 10 mins after feinting" will no longer bat an eyelid because the normie part of your brain that emotionally over reacts to mundane medical procedure events will be switched off.

>> No.12484227

>>12478417
all you mentally ill mongoloids should've had sex when you were told

>> No.12484258

>>12483802
Either you overcome this disease of pathological liberalism or you lose to a pandemic. The State is the nation, pandemics can only be defeated by the nation as a whole, not by any individual part of that whole. Public health imposes duties upon the individual for the benefit of the public whole. You exist, thrive, or fail, as a member of a group. The State is that group evolutionary unit that decides your groups evolutionary strategy, and here whether you thrive or are defeated by a pandemic.

>> No.12484266

>>12483833
Bizarre genocide power fantasies totally untethered from reality (where ethicists are trying to deny elderly White people priority access to the vaccine so they can "level the playing field" by letting Whites die from COVID.)

>> No.12484267 [DELETED] 

>>12478417
That was probably from being nervous.

>> No.12484280

>>12483767
There is no place for liberal individualism in a pandemic.

>> No.12484308

>>12484258
>Either you overcome this disease of pathological liberalism or you lose to a pandemic.
Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither - Ban Franklin
>The State is the nation, pandemics can only be defeated by the nation as a whole, not by any individual part of that whole
Wrong, the state is social construct and you don't "defeat" a pandemic, you survive it or you don't by your own actions.
>Public health imposes duties upon the individual for the benefit of the public whole
Every community has the right to decide for themselves how they want to handle anything. This is why the US founding fathers structured the government the way they did. IDGAF what some pencil neck, bankers lackeys in Washington think about anything. In fact doing the opposite of what they say is more often than not the best course of action.
>You exist, thrive, or fail, as a member of a group
Arguable I present countless examples to the contrary. Let's assume I will concede this however. My group is whoever I say it is. You defining my group to be the entire land mass of the US political boundaries is your mistake. Every city, every county, every state has their own elected officials. If California and New York want to bankrupt their citizens with authoritarian and ineffective lock downs that is their problem to solve not mine in Kentucky.
>The State is that group evolutionary unit that decides your groups evolutionary strategy, and here whether you thrive or are defeated by a pandemic.
Not it isn't. Once again the state is a social construct consisting of w/e I say it is. I can declare my own family the state of sovereign Americans or any other arbitrary name I choose or I can choose to affiliate myself with my actual state, I have no obligation to affiliate myself with NY and CA and what they do. What determines whether I thrive or not are my own personal choices. You have so many flaws and fallacies in your thought process if you "thrive" it will be a miracle

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>>12484308
Throw Ben Franklin in the trash where he belongs, and start with Fichte and Schmitt. Your disgusting liberalism has failed the nation. COVID is the endgame of your shit individualist anti-nation experiment in driving a nation into its grave through liberalism.

>> No.12484329

>>12484322
Well you are part of my "state" and have to follow me off the cliff because we are tied together at the hip according to you. I don't trust any of these people they aren't my "state". You and they can go fuck yourselves for all I care. You broke the social contract a long time ago and I owe you nothing

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>>12484322
I dont give a fuck about your gay ass book this is my bible. it is total war now

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>>12482308
>It's what's required if you want to utterly humiliate idiots like you without any mercy

>> No.12484570

>>12484280
Are you implying there's a pandemic?

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>>12478417
hot take:

this nurse is clearly faking it. She has very clear speech. She coincidentally starts collapsing JUST after the guy holds her. And she doesn't collapse at free-fall, it's like she's slowly getting down to avoid getting hurt.

That said, the vaccine still sterilizes you or something.

>> No.12484764

>>12478495

This. Some fraction of people tend to pass out from injections but also from blood drawing. It has very likely nothing to do with the vaccine itself. But very unfortunate for PR.

>> No.12484783

>>12484258
>dude trust me the pandemic isn't a power grab
You a few months ago

>> No.12484826

>>12484728
The funny thing is if you read the comments from people after she recovered and did another interview, they concluded based on her body language that she's probably dying and is only saying she's fine because she's being threatened.

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>>12482054
>masters in science
Either a goofball way to tell us you're in an engineering masters program or the moment you fucked up this lie

>> No.12484862

>>12483216
>The chance of going into anaphylaxis from a vaccine is so low that a young person is much more likely to get infected with and die of COVID than they are to suffer even a minor allergic reaction from the vaccine.

Ah yes, so rare that one of the handful of people vaccinated on live /tv/ suffered from it. Quite rare indeed.
Also please show a single verified Covid death of a person under 40 that didn't have a serious preexisting condition.
Hint: Being an obese piece of does not make you a healthy young person.

>> No.12484870

>>12482662
If they are vaccinated they have nothing to worry about

>> No.12484880

>>12484862
>Ah yes, so rare that one of the handful of people vaccinated on live /tv/ suffered from it. Quite rare indeed.
When did that happen? Is there video?

>> No.12484922

How the fuck is it not common knowledge that some people faint from seeing a needle?
Is it just American being retarded?

>> No.12484949

>>12484862
>Also please show a single verified Covid death of a person under 40 that didn't have a serious preexisting condition.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wrecked-lives-families-young-adults-died-covid-19/story?id=74148061

Seriously, get fucked.

>> No.12485091

>>12484922
She fainted seventeen minutes after "seeing the needle". Also she's a nurse. If she faints from seeing needles, she needs to go into another line of work.

>> No.12485111

>>12478417
There are ~40k cases of bell's palsy in the US per year.
That is roughly 1 in 8000 per year
The pfizer trial observed 4 cases out of the roughly 40000 test subjects (1 in 10000).
1 in 10000 is close enough to 1 in 8000 to say it just looks like the normal rate.
NOT SO FAST.
The 4 cases all occurred in the test group that received the vaccine (not the placebo) so the rate was really 1 in 5000.
1 in 5000 is still pretty close to 1 in 8000 so what's the big deal?
The expected 1 in 8000 is PER YEAR.
The 4 cases in the pfizer trial occurred within 2 months (really 48 days but im being charitable) of receiving the vaccine.
Converting the PER YEAR rate to the PER 2 MONTHS rate gives an expected 1 in 48000 per 2 months.
So we have an observed 1 in 5000 per 2 months from the trial compared to an expected 1 in 48000 per 2 months.

These joggers diluted the rate by a factor of 12 to make it look normal.
What else are they being dishonest about?

>> No.12485113

>>12485091
None of your points are relevant.

>> No.12485181

>>12484826
there's only two types of whites

1) complete soicuck media consoomer
2) errythang i like is true

really nothing in between

>> No.12485245

>>12478642
>>12478417
vaccines are poison

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/sites/default/files/gpub_58635_anti_therapeutic_action_vaccination_all.pdf

A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/

A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535

Commentary--Controversies surrounding mercury in vaccines: autism denial as impediment to universal immunisation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033

Methodological issues and evidence of malfeasance in research purporting to show thimerosal in vaccines is safe.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277

Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170

Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436

A comprehensive review of mercury provoked autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/

Thimerosal Exposure and the Role of Sulfation Chemistry and Thiol Availability in Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/

B-Lymphocytes from a Population of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder and Their Unaffected Siblings Exhibit Hypersensitivity to Thimerosal
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355

Theoretical aspects of autism: causes--a review.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498

Conjugate vaccines and autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848

>> No.12485251

>>12478417
>>12485245
A prospective study of thimerosal-containing Rho(D)-immune globulin administration as a risk factor for autistic disorders.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242

Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250

The potential importance of steroids in the treatment of autistic spectrum disorders and other disorders involving mercury toxicity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490

Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322

Cultured lymphocytes from autistic children and non-autistic siblings up-regulate heat shock protein RNA in response to thimerosal challenge.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260

A possible central mechanism in autism spectrum disorders, part 1.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938

The role of mercury in the pathogenesis of autism.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12142947

Transcriptomic analyses of neurotoxic effects in mouse brain after intermittent neonatal administration of thimerosal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24675092

Aluminum vaccine adjuvants: are they safe?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21568886

Aluminum and Vaccine Ingredients:What Do We Know? What Don’t We Know?
https://www.nvic.org/Doctors-Corner/Lawrence-Palevsky/Aluminum-and-Vaccine-Ingredients.aspx

Impact of Environmental Factors on the Prevalence of Autistic Disorder After 1979
https://academicjournals.org/article/article1411048618_Deisher%20et%20al.pdf

UN Report On Vaccine Deaths / Dangers Buried By Google
https://banned.video/watch?id=5e1e46e4240a6f001e6ce398

Why The Elite Do Not Vaccinate Their Children
https://principia-scientific.org/why-the-elite-do-not-vaccinate-their-children/

Subtle DNA changes and the overuse of vaccines in autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/

>> No.12485256

>>12485251
>>12485245
>>12478417
Vaccine and Autism- a New Scientific Review
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vaccines-and-autism-a-new-scientific-review/

Summary of previous Journal of Immunology
http://danmurphydc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/AR-10-12-rata-AUTISM-VACCINE.pdf

Autism and Resulting Medical Conditions:
http://www.tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/autism-studies-april-2008.pdf..

Mercury toxic encephalopathy manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560

Relation of mercury to high autism rates in boys
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16264412

Autism and mercury poisoning
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848

Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250

Rise in autism coincides with rise in vaccines
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535

A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/A

Elevated levels of measles in children with Autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12849883

Abnormal MMR antibodies in children with autism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534

Tylenol, MMR and Autism - A parent survey study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18445737

>> No.12485441
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>>12478417
>she died after taking the vaccine
Um /sci/ bros?
https://www.searchquarry.com/namesearch/register?fname=Tiffany%20Pontes&lname=Dover&courthouse=De%20Kalb%20County%20Death%20Records%20Database&city=Higdon&state=AL&age=30&zip=&co=&trackstat=homepage-&aliasid=&recordtype=Death&type=&trid=&ntyp=

>> No.12485444

>>12484949
>After a few days at home, Michael took a PCR COVID-19 test at a CVS drive-thru. On Sept. 21, he learned the result was negative, his mother said. But days later, Michael suffered cardiac arrest. He was found to have myocarditis -- an inflammation of the heart muscle, Kady Lang said.

Did you even read the article you posted you retard?

>> No.12485484

>>12485444
Did you not read what it said above that or did you just ignore it?

Here are some other examples. It's very rare, but it's just not true that it only happens with "serious preexisting condition".
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/college-student-dies-covid.html
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-in-france-healthy-16-year-old-dies-of-covid-19

>Among the 121 decedents, 30 (25%) were previously healthy (no reported underlying medical condition)
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e4.htm?s_cid=mm6937e4_w

>> No.12485491

>>12485441
F

>> No.12485501

>>12485441
Not enough time for an autopsy, the issuance of a death record, and then for it to trickle out to searchquarry.com. Those sites get huge dumps of data that are months old. They don't have a live API connected to every county coroner in the country.
That listing is for her but the source is incorrect. Use some common sense. If she's dead, it's not going to be on the freebie stalking sites for months.

>> No.12485509

>>12485113
Except that they are completely relevant even if you wish really really hard on a magical star that they're not.

>> No.12485546

>>12482060
only a midwit would be this pedantic.

>> No.12485603

>>12478417
Americans ruin everything
>Lets pick a fainting woman to help our vaccine PR

Burgers apologies when?
In uk we have comfy old ppl with no issues getting it live

>> No.12485609

>>12479472
>It has a higher death rate than the flu
>Sterilization of unknown duration.
>Fucks with random cells stopping their regular behaviour. What could go wrong?
>Immense financial drain.

what did he mean by this?

>> No.12485616

>>12478564
this
>shes ok looking
>lets not check her medical records

>>12478642
kek

>>12485245
Pick any vaccine, start a thread and watch you be dismantled.
Do it lad.

>> No.12485627

>>12481544
the libertarian will beflumoxed

>> No.12485628

>>12481491
based and huxley-orwell pilled

>> No.12485630

>>12479107
>>12479107
based Occam anon

>>12479689
burgers ruin everything

>> No.12485633

>>12482767
>>12479207
Tell him to post it on here
about 4 threads here contradict him

>> No.12485638

>>12479219
You realize people with AIDS don't die of AIDS technically?

>> No.12485644

>>12479762
1 in around 2000 people are severely allergic to common antibiotics

>> No.12485650

>>12481981
BAN PEANUTS NOWWWWWWW

>> No.12485654

people could flat out die on camera taking these and retards would still line up

>> No.12485682

>>12484308
liberalism
>I should be free to BUY democracy

>> No.12485741

>>12485638
Can't tell if you're supporting everything being attributed to covid or against nothing being attributed to vaccine complications.

>> No.12485784

>>12485633
What do you mean? I cant really find a thread besides like two other ones to post that image in and ask about it.

>> No.12485785

>>12485741
Not him, but I'm gonna say neither.

>> No.12485790

>>12485784
Hold on a minute. Do you retards actually believe that shit? How gullible are you?

>> No.12485875

>>12485784
>>/sci/thread/12418658?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=d9d4920fd30ca79e2394e42dcd52e9cea0304592-1608424417-0-AfSLt6erUhHVqFaIrN_-hBJ--AcWrDnAu2D14ZYcm5rsJYx6cHzIQ6HS25AeSmhmtavgKkuteDxjlg4Ile1Rtui7gS72NjMEeKfXPNt7bhzVbBKEjNNCA-NrFSAfltVlG2uxZUmtJrfmN8AUKnrw4hbTHyFI0yD1MI_NRrMtmdMfl1o5mYW7mWH9qanBeGEIrs10aqoM1BKwTzFEw_bsUZAgQEJ8Zj5Ur6eTJZ4mZEVj77c8zGXeS02nJWK3nboxCHODuFKUPVemUqgt8p9jPBupNszAbYFe2x63ru4an8cdPOK23nUp6LxqeaYErDM_5Fk3c48SGxtC3qTa7ueBL_M

>> No.12485914

>>12478641
Let us know if your balls are working fine afterwards

>> No.12486765

>>12482860
Bo one would accept a 1% death rate. But accepting 95% success rate would be great(that's 5x 70million. 350millio. Would get sick.) That's 7-10.5million that would die. (Assuming 100% of people get the vaccine) that is assuming the 2-3% doesn't apply to those who take the vaccine. But those who get the vaccine. That is still more then the swine flu. And only 500k away from the holocaust.The vaccine =those who would not have died from the disease in the first place. We are freaking out from 2-3% of 60million. Which is 1.2million. But predicting vaccines from less then 100,000.

Anesthesia doesn't effect everyone but one woman on record her skin peeled off from touch. Does it mean no one should do it. No. But your should know your taking a risk anytime a foreign substance enters your body. And with covid no one is providing a vaccine that is 100% or even 99.9% if a vaccine provided a 99.99% then only 700k would be at risk of dying.

>> No.12486809

>>12482860
Also if doctors won't acknowledge people getting the flu after a flu vaccine. What makes you think they will acknowledge a covid death after a covid vaccine.

One is acknowledging a death and the other is acknowledging a a sickness. What does that say?

If the flu vaccine was 99.99 effective only 700k would get sick if only 1 out of hundred people died when infected then out 7,000 people would die of the flu. (Currently) we could only know if 100% of the population got a flu vaccine for 10years straight would start to show a statistic to use.

>> No.12487058

>>12483724
if you don't already know, you've been clamped.
it's too late, son.

>> No.12487693

>>12481945
>obvious shitpost copypasta
>dude it's a shill bot
Then again people acutally think that "chud" gets used unironically when most actual leftists who post here would just call people retarded faggots.