/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12458005
flawed question
consciousness expressed in a physical manner =/= consciousness itself is physical

>>12458005
>consciousness, a physical process
Prove it.

>>12458005
"How do you know we are not beholden to physical processes?"
Because if things were deterministic, then we can't prove that they were or were not, because they'd be deterministic.

>>12458005
How do you propose to create subjective experience out of physical processes?

>>12458005
Couldn't it be said consciousness is akin to an overtone in music?

It's something "above" that results as a bunch of other processes all simultaneously doing their thing.

>>12458053
How would it not be subjective?

I don't believe in either extreme, I simply don't know.
How am I to know?
Why would I randomly assume it without pure justification? and if I had the purées justification I would have a great amount of evidence.
to favor not I would have a great deal of evidence that it is not possible, if I was to favor yes then I would have made it already as the purest form of proof.

>>12458005
For all we know consciousness functions via sending signals through some 5D dimensional manifold that can't be replicated with a computer.

>>12458191
Does a piece of metal have subjective experience?

>>12458233
Technically yes

>>12458005
We call it, "sex".

>>12458005
>consciousness, a physical process

Please share your evidence for this claim

>>12458260
lol damn. +1 internetz to you sir

>>12458005
Consciousness may be physical, but that does not make it exclusively so