/sci/ - Science & Math

This shit is so cool

I hope they're starting to make the Jonny Kim documentary now

>>12448173

That is majestic. What a gracefull descent and smooth transition from horizontal to vertical! I am glad that I've got to watch it live and witness history in the making.

>>12448173
It's almost menacing as it approaches the viewer. Intimidating.

>>12448173
So what are the plans for landing this on mars? Will the skydiving move still be useful with such a small atmosphere?

>>12448220
the skydiving is mandatory on mars. They need as much surface area as possible to eat up as much speed as possible. Engines will do the rest of the work at the end.

>>12448173
what the FUCK. I thought this was in slow-mo but I checked with a timer and this video is actually in real-time. I guess my stupid monkey brain can't parse a 15-story tall building falling so it thinks its moving slower than it is

>>12448220
Yes. They need heatshields to absorb the long glide/slowdown on mars/earth(leo). The atmospheric drag will absorb ~90% of the energy and then the final 10% or so will be resolved by the same engine maneuver. Light 2-3 of engine to reach close to net zero, then shutdown one, the use the final engine to land slowly.

>>12448234
It’s falling about 100m/s

>>12448234
Starship big

It did occur to me - why not build a huge concrete water tank underneath the landing pad, then have a breakable layer that gives way with excess weight: hard landing equals a drop into the water tank, thus saving the vehicle from RUD.

>>12448234
it's also the exposure looks like high speed footage

>>12448249
Because you won’t have that on Mars

OH N-

>>12448258
The landing reminded me of that spongebob episode where he falls off a cliff after snowboarding and lands on his ass, leaving his lower body in a million tiny pieces

>>12448258
Anyone have an animated kerbal HUD version yet?

>>12448258
https://youtu.be/LxpoN6LK3wE?t=332

>>12448275
I hate being reminded that KSP 2 got pushed back to 2022

>>12448280
>Starship lands on mars before KSP 2 launches

got people walking around on site now

>>12448290
>>Starship lands on mars before KSP 2 launches
How? The next mars launch windows aren't until September 2022.

>>12448302
I want a piece of SN8 scrap.

>be rocket engineer

Work for national agency
>paid to develop a manned flag planting mission
>only allowed to upgrade 80yrs oldspace design
>no unproven technology allowed to be tested
>every 4yrs your budget and design goal reset
>do critical R&D side-project that will never be used

Work for private company
>paid to fucking colonize mars
>free hand to try any feasible new concept
>no uncool technology allowed to be tested
>subsidies money keep coming no matter what
>get all critical R&D for free from national agency

From another thread >>12446662
>raptor is very briefly the world's only full-flow staged combustion hybrid liquid+solid tripropellant methaloxcu engine with a dual ablative and regenerative nozzle

>>12448249
Falcon 9 already lands on a boat on water, how does it go when it fails?
Or you land well or you don't, there is no safety net here.

>>12448328
Reminder that shortly before the SN8 hop news was dropped about SLS failing it's wet-dress-rehearsal for a test-fire which is meant to simulate a launch. A government funded company can't even do a mockup of a mockup while some startup company aided by a guy who smokes pot is building flipping rockets. Oldspace is dust

>NASA Scientists Plan To Approach Girl By 2018
As usual they are years behind schedule lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya_D9IwB3-s

>>12448316
They better put the top of SN8 in a museum

Why does it seem like more marine pilots get selected by NASA than any other branch? The Artemis crew has two and the falcon 9 test flight to iss had 1. Just wonderjng if anyone had some insight on this. I applied to become a marine pilot when I graduate with a bs in math this year in hopes of becoming a test pilot later.

>>12448361
This is just me spitballing but I'd guess it'd have to do with the really high amount of flight time they get in, and the complicated nature of carrier ops. Pilots on carriers are probably defacto some of the best any particular nation can yield because of how ridiculously complex, dangerous, and routine it all is.

>>12448173
Anyone have a link to the full launch/landing attempt that I can download? I can stream it from various places, but I want a hard copy to keep.

Looking through Twitter yesterday. Noticed that anyone with a furry profile picture was against elon and for govt oldspace.

>>12448383
honestly I was impressed with the amount of people who were inspired by it and knew that it was a success. Way more than in the past with high profile RUDs. Obviously MSM wants those explosion vid clicks and a handful of salty socialists hate Elon on principle, but pretty much everyone else seemed behind it.

>>12448393
MSM is controlled by the elites who hates Musk's guts.

you guys think ULA is gonna scrub their delta heavy again?

>>12448373
That is an interesting idea. A human trying to land on a platform moving possibly rolling from the sea seems incredibly difficult. Really puts into perspective what the falcon 9 does on it's own when landing on the drone ship. Thanks.

>>12448393
The flight seemed have broken into the normie optics zone which is a good thing. Spaceflight needs to be seen as a real thing rather than some weird nerdy hobby

>>12448401
Is water wet?

Realistically, can SN9 fly before January?

ksp version: https://youtu.be/u-sWzuaq3Sw

>>12448426
definitely

>>12448426
Imagine how kino it would be if first thing on January 1st we get to see SN9 do the flop, then stick the lending

More amateur videos dropping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauacCNV86s
Always amazed how good of a view these people got.

>>12448427
>no fire after first engine cutoff
lame

>>12448426
No.

>>12448439
Book it for right before Xmas.

>>12448356
yeah, I hope they keep it as a memento.

>>12448330
>methaloxcu
lmao. But really I'm shocked at how long it was able to run like that. It burnt green for a solid 4 seconds, only stopped by the RUD. An engine engaged in autophagy I would expect to die immediately, not sip contentedly on its own innards.

>>12448383
>Noticed that anyone with a furry profile picture was against elon
not surprised
>and for govt oldspace.
..what the fuck? Why the hell are libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex?

>>12448446
>twas the night before christmas
>and out on the pad
>sat the hope for mankind
>a shiny steel lad

>>12448426
Honestly while I'm impatient as shit to see progress, I'd want them to have a comfy holiday vacation for a week or two. I think they've earned it this year, all things considered.

>>12448456
>what the fuck? Why the hell are libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex
Because government, good

>>12448456
>..what the fuck? Why the hell are libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex?
They have a raging hate boner for Elon if you haven't noticed yet. The usual petty cancel culture shit because he hasn't 'kissed the ring' on a bunch of their stupid social fad issues.

>>12448460
yeah, they should have some celebratory chill time after that success. I know everyone's eager to go but you gotta tend to the people side of the equation sometime too.

>sn8 waving goodbye
https://twitter.com/KSpaceAcademy/status/1337049438536290309

>>12448426
Possibly but more likely happens in January.

>>12448426
Even if they decided to forgo all of the pre-testing on it which will probably take a month or two from hitting the pad, no way they get through the FAA again so quickly

>>12448456
>libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex
You shouldn't be surprised by this, given that they spent the past 4 years defending the NatSec state at every turn because "muh Russia."

>>12448426
it can definitely fly by then, but the bottleneck will probably be the engineers going over the data from SN8 than readiness to launch

Wait, ULA is launching today?

>>12448403
Aircraft carriers don’t roll at all. You’re really smart though.

>>12448460
>Boca Chica starts Christmas celebrations
>Starhopper gets used as a giant eggnog keg
>Christmas tunes played by various honking instruments
>everyone is having fun with Pin-The-Fins-On-The-Starship
sounds nice

>>12448490

>>12448426
Doable? Yes. With all the delays of SN8? I strongly doubt.

>>12448456
Because that’s one anons hypothetical tard speak and you’re just miming what you heard on 4chan

>>12448504
What makes you think the delays SN8 had will be affected on SN9?

>>12448460
They deserve a long holiday no question. Though I wonder if Elon would allow it. You don't become a billionaire by taking Christmas off.

>>12448490
There is no such thing as an ocean proof boat. Physics don't just stop applying because of the size or shape of your vessel.

>>12448514
>You don't become a billionaire by taking Christmas off
How many people with money have you actually been around? All that workaholic hustle culture crap is just rhetoric told to wagies. Elon works hard, but not that damn hard.

>>12448513
There are ALWAYS delays.

MK1 was suppose to do a hope 14 months ago.

>>12448460
>week or two vacation
Not happening. People who want to relax don't work at Spacex. People who love the idea of going to mars, working hard, believe in their own power of hard work ethics work at spacex.

There maybe a day or two of celebration at spacex.

Where are the good sn8 aftermath images? I want to see if anything besides the tent was damaged by the RUD.

>>12448539
Having a passion for what you're doing doesn't mean you autistically shut down your entire personal life and forsake your family and friends to go hunch over in a work cave.

>>12448549
It literally does.

>>12448558
You have zero clue what you’re taking about. Consider that there are people who have worked at engineering start ups before that are in this thread that know more about it than you.

>>12448565
>You have zero clue what you’re taking about.
No u

>>12448549
That level of passion is the reason SpaceX is doing half the shit it is doing. Can't say it's misplaced either because who cares about keeping your family happy now if you can secure a land parcel on Mars for your genetic line by contributing exemplary work for SpaceX. I'm sure different departments have natural downtime anyways between waiting for the FAA or construction of each prototype so it's not like they are in a sweat shop.

>>12448490

>>12448549
That's spacex work culture. Young/talented/passionate people work at spacex and want to achieve something. Musk himself has only takes handful of days off his entire adult life. Most of them ended in disaster for him.

>>12448558
>Burn out your entire work force in months because PASSION
Have you worked in a skilled labor job before? That's a pretty good way to get your employees pilfered by other companies. You can only use the 'You're going to MARS!' shtick for so long, and that only works on the younger crowd that hasn't been through the song and dance with start up companies before.

>>12448579
I didn't know Gene Cernan piloted a ship

>>12448587
>>Burn out your entire work force in months because PASSION
SpaceX is famous for burning out talented engineers

>>12448574
>who cares about keeping your family happy
People who care about not being alone and losing all their money to alimony and child support.

>>12448587
SpaceX burnout rate is higher than traditional aerospace companies. Its a known factor. As long as humans reproduce on earth, SpaceX will plenty of fresh blood to infuse new ideas and challenge status quo even within their own company. This is both a negative (slight loss of experience) but also a positive as it provides spacex with new/ untainted ideas. Its what allows them to operate so efficiently.

>>12448587
If you say so anonymous

>>12448594
With the age of the work force and the record low marriage rates I don't think a significant fraction of the grinders at SpaceX, the young'uns who are putting overtime modeling everything are married or close to it. Also if your spouse needs attention like a dog, can't see the bigger picture and not already busy teaching and raising your children anyways then reproducing with them was pointless in the first place.

>>12448440

>More amateur videos

Can someone post the others please?

>>12448353
the front literally fell off

>>12448603
>needs attention like a dog
Haven't been in a serious relationship before, I see.

>>12448610
Not sure this is all of them, but sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yGIyjlF600&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jY14qHWFs0&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wQgZ4lgdAY&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEWAuCnBgc&feature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_WSzonHFfI&feature=emb_logo

>>12448488
>ULA
>Launch
LMAO

>>12448383
That's weird. It seems furries would be into nerdy stuff like space. I know we have one Krystal-obsessed person here at least.

>>12448457
awesome

>>12448603
>the young'uns who are putting overtime modeling everything are married or close to it
Average age of SpaceX's workforce is around 30 iirc, which is within the age of getting married even in America.
>Also if your spouse needs attention
Relationships are a lot of effort and time, having a 50-55 hour work week instead of a 40 hour one is likely going to put a strain on most relationships
>>12448603
>busy teaching and raising your children
Single income families are pretty rare these days even if you do pull a good salary due to cost of living increases.

>>12448579
They probably don't do hairpin turns while a rocket tries to land on them

>>12448603
Thats why you marry someome you hate so you can stay away from her but once in a while fuck her when you're too horny to fap.

>>12448649
Is that a challenge?

>>12448624

Cheers.

>>12448648
>Single income families are rare
Yes and there is literally zero point in reproducing in a dual income family, at that point your child is a memetic carrier of some underpaid bureaucrats and not even your own. The bare minimum for having a kid who won't be a fuck up is one ever present parent. I know society has been arranged to apply massive dysgenic pressure to everyone and this nonsensical "egalitarian" arrangement is hailed as normal but even moving to the turd world is more reproductively fit than letting your spouse or child be jerked around and puppeted by nefarious capitalists and academics or having them be raised by school teachers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t7RuCByYqo
GOING DOWN IN FLAMES GOING OUT IN A BLAZE OF GLORY

>>12448683
Yeah thats shit. We need to return to a more traditional family structure.

>>12448705
Mars will enable that. Hell, if we play the cards right, we may get something like Black Mesa IRL. A research organization that actually allows you to live in their property and house your family free of charge.

>>12448719
Like an old company town?

>>12448725
Perhaps.
Imagine this, but on Mars.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYsHF1pkIg

>>12448624
anymore? gotta love the energy over there

>>12448736
These two on twitter are the only other two I've seen, sure there is more somewhere

https://twitter.com/apollozac/status/1336808221806354434
https://twitter.com/narsocial/status/1336849944322469890

I love the crowds too, these tests do more outreach in a day then NASA has in 20 years

interesting. Tory brings up the venture star. Without high launch rates it would have been pointless.

>>12448173
Looks like CGI.

>>12448523
Elon in general is a weird exception to the rules. There's a big diff between his brand of CEO and the kind that sits on their ass collecting rent all their life. As he himself has said "no one bleeds for the prince in the palace"

>>12448545
I imagine we'll get a flyover within the next day or two.

>>12448523
>Elon works hard, but not that damn hard.
Even the people who've worked with him say that his work ethic is insane.

>>12448757
Aka it would have costed $400+ millions per launch maybe upto billion USD.

>>12448160
>Read French Press this morning
>SpaceX rocket blows up or something.
>Read more, they have no fucking clue what they're talking about.
Does the Human race even deserve to go to Mars?

>>12448719
>we

>>12448778
You mean his underlings that have every incentive to kiss ass? You don’t say.

>>12448767
>no one bleeds for the prince in the palace
What does this mean

>>12448790
Even people who have left the company and have no reason to continue fellating him. I know it sucks to hear, but some people really are just capable of working ridiculously hard.

>>12448790
There have been multiple ex-nasa employees, ex-spacex employes, ex-tesla employees, even ex-wives who have all interviewed and claimed elon's a workaholic that does not stop.

>>12448793
It means that people don’t put in their all when the leader is weak.

>>12448793
It means people work harder for one who leads by example.

>>12448793
I'm assuming it means 'lead from the front'. Of course this is all relative if you compare the work of someone busting their ass actually engaging in engineering and architeching solutions to being a CEO that attends a few meetings.

>>12448778
>>12448767
I get the impression that he's the sort of dude who has nightmares every night of a meteor hitting the Earth or an actual deadly virus wiping us out and he is desperately trying to get us off this planet while he's the only one in a position to do so. Just listen to him any time he talks about "preserving the light of consciousness." He seems terrified of dying without making a difference.

>>12448790
Someone's salty. But the results are here for you to witness.
Yes it takes dedication to achieve great things.

>>12448793
It means people don't appreciate the company when their leader sits on his ass all day from 1000 miles away. When your CEO comes to visit on weekly basis and talks with normal employees on the floor, that's when everyone understands that CEO actually does care about the company/you working.

Sorta like how everyone can shit on each other over the internet, but in real life exchanges, we're all nice to each other.

>>12448799
Yeah, I’ve seen how management works. Convince someone else that talking is work because I’m not buying it.

is Biden ever going to pick a NASA admin?

>>12448807
In his interviews he talks about the scariest enemy of humanity being AI, other natural disasters are of course scary but AI is his biggest fear. Given what Google/China want to do with what AI, and what I'm sure he is privy to he wants to GTFO before the earth is an inescapable hellscape where every living person has an AI managed social credit score and morality counter tied to their every digital recorded action.

>SpaceX tweet showing footage from the pad.
>Top comment is about how that money would be better spent on lowlife cockroaches.
Can we kill Tweeter already?

>>12448819
Not sure if stupid or retard

>>12448790
This is a good list of sourced claims from relevant people who all say he's a good engineer:
https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/k1e0ta/evidence_that_musk_is_the_chief_engineer_of_spacex/

>>12448821
No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s-9SQ9zet4
RGV is flying his plane on stream

>>12448819
Stupid retard

>>12448821
Not yet.

>>12448586
it's honestly not a bad plan. Work yourself to death in your 20's and then coast for the rest of it if you want.

>>12448587
they can afford to do that because of the company's renown. SpaceX/Tesla are both extremely popular companies for uni grads.

>>12448736
I love watching normies get hyped over space. It's so genuine

>>12448793
no one is going to work hard for the fatass Prince who does nothing but sleep in the palace. But the people will die for royalty that joins them in battle on the front lines. That kinda thing. Having a leader take hits with you is good for moral.

This is why generals like Patton are so legendary:
>His philosophy of leading from the front, and his ability to inspire troops with attention-getting, vulgarity-ridden speeches, such as his famous address to the Third Army, was met favorably by his troops, but much less so by a sharply divided Allied high command
The elites don't like how "uncouth" it is but the common man loves it.

>>12448488
ULA LALA
Don't scrub me baby

>>12448793
>He doesn't know

Fits like a glove for the whole mission https://youtu.be/ZWE66zkDSoM

>>12448847
Super genius.

>>12448779
ya, good thing they went with the chea- HEY WAIT A MINUTE

How much of Starship is actually locked behind ITAR? I mean besides the software, I feel like we’ve seen the entire build process so far. The average NSF autist could probably tell you how to exactly build a starship; down to the exact steel alloy and piping layout and all that. Are there any parts of starship we don’t know about? Maybe how the fins actuate? (No in not chinease)

>>12448819
You're not forced to work at SpaceX.
If you don't like it, you quit.
You most likely won't have trouble finding another job.

>>12448807
From his biography and interviews he apparently had a panic attack when young about the fate of humanity and was convinced it will destroy itself so he became obsessed with saving it. He had a depressing childhood(being beaten up at school, abused/molested by his dad) and had no friends, plus the only books in his house were philosophical ones by neitzche and kant so he had a dim view of the future. It wasn't until he read The Hitchikers Guide and The Culture books that he started to be optimistic about the future.

>>12448426
why are you coomposting in /sfg/

>>12448857

>>12448864
The engine part, I guess. The rest is just steel stuff anyone can make.

>>12448853
ULA LALALA
Launch me tonight

>>12448872
>omg he’s literally me!!

>>12448864
The metallurgy is another big one. I think most of it is about the workers moreso than the intellectual property.

>>12448757
Tory is an /sfg/ tier space nerd trying to turn a battleship (oldspace corporate culture) around with a Q-tip.

>>12448879
Is this the scrubbed launch from like 6 month ago?

>>12448839
cool, I get to see him takeoff in real time

>>12448876
Oh duh I didn’t even consider the engine hahah. Yeah in that case I unironically expect a SS clone to be made by Chang in the next ~15 years. It will be exactly the same, down to the dimensions. It will probably be an expendable first stage though, and a hydrogen upper stage.

>>12448835
I only need one source to tell me that
https://youtu.be/I0qgBuIO6n4?t=197

>>12448779
Sad but does this surprise anyone? The unit cost of the individual vehicles was probably over $1 Billion, mainly because it uses the most advanced tech on the planet. Also it’s huge as fuck and probably needs 6 million and a half hours of inspection. It’s a cool vehicle but once again, any reusable rocket made by the government is destined to fail simply due to a lack of efficiency.

>>12448827
I would rather hang out with your average boomer going

>“OH SHIT JEDEDIAH SHES FLIPPING OH LORD ITS LIKE A SEA BASS OVER CRYSTAL LAKE”

than your average Twitter intellectual.

>>12448887
Hi Tory

>>12448851
>it's honestly not a bad plan. Work yourself to death in your 20's and then coast for the rest of it if you want.
Exactly. You don't have to do crazy like spacex does to achieve somewhat early retirement. You can simply live a very frugal life during the 20s-30s and work your ass off with avg middle income job that pays 60K a year. Spend only ~10K a year bunking with roommate and eating frugally and you invest the rest. In 10 years, you'd have a base of ~3/4 of million USD in investment. Then you can live off of that forever with investments and living frugally buy buying a cheap $50K land, tiny house in the middle of no where and getting starlink for internet. Spending only 10K a year in spending and 4% annual investment gains, your investment will GROW to million by your 40th year.

Ofcourse this is ultra frugal mode. But its doable even in moderate budget.

>>12448887
He's surprisingly knowledgeable, yeah.

>>12448757
I am 100% convinced that the X-33 would work if NASA went with stainless steel and Methalox instead of carbon composites and hydrogen.

>>12448893
If you want to copy the dimensions you need to copy the fuel and go methalox. Which Chang can do, but it would probably be a cheap and easy open cycle engine instead of Raptor.

But if using "Jeb's Best Value Raptor" cuts payload in half, that's still 50 tons to orbit, fully reusable.

>>12448893
unless they steal it I doubt they can get the software right quickly

>>12448893
The beauty of Starship is its engine. I really don’t think Chang will be able to recreate a Raptor simply because of how insane the engine is. I bet they’ll use a shittier engine and just “brute force” the design. Expect the Chinese Starship to be made of the usual materials and not steel. Expect 50 tons to LEO reusable

>>12448905
>carbon composites and hydrogen
this was a nightmare combination to begin with. At least drop the hydrogen and the project would be made much easier

>>12448920
I wouldn't count them out just yet. Changs have so many engineers/physcists/mathematicians/etc that they will brute force their way through. Its only a matter of time/numbers game to them.

>>12448900
>Mfw doing Pre Med at Uni
>MFW I won’t start working until I’m 30
>Mfw I will miss out on my 20’s
Haha...but anything for Mars...haha

>>12448900
Nonorm person wants to eat ramen and watch hentai every day instead of have a life and spend some $

>>12448887
>>12448903
their ACES shit was actually really cool. Shame ULA doesn't have the kind of freedom that SpaceX has

>>12448927
True but remember how their fighters are BTFO’d by Russia and the US? Same deal. They can steal all the specs they wan’t but they lack the metallurgy.

>>12448900
>>12448937
Its understandable as most people lack forethought, they are too impulsive, they don't want to live frugally(aka eating plain food), etc. But I'm just saying, there's a path forward for early retirement with if you shoulder early pains for later gains.

I got to stand in SpaceShipTwo with my payload. They took pictures but they have to clear it. If they did I'll post

>>12448900
Honestly, if you have the work ethic, foresight and self discipline to do all of this, you could just go into software development or investment banking and push your income into the six figures.

ANOTHA WAN

>>12448952
did it explode this time?

>>12448920
50 tons to LEO fully reusable still dabs on literally everything but Starship itself

>>12448961
It hasn't launched yet

>>12448940
They've only recently been able to industrialize. Now they have a good chunk of industry. If you look at China 20 years ago, they were still mostly a shithole country. Today their average income is higher than eastern europe as they pay close to ~$20K USD per year. 20 years ago, that number was close to $2K USD(inflation counting).

>>12448963
True but remember that China is OldSpace. I imagine they’re going to take forever to develop it l. They’re only making “great strides” now because they’re doing shit that hasn’t been done in a while and the US got complacent over

Finally a new video, this time about Vulcan and it's payloads. Any rocket you guys want me to make a quick video about? Maybe one of the meme small sats like firefly?
https://youtu.be/qL4kU_bCwyE

>People are still editing the Starship page on Wikipedia back and forth
Lmao but holy shit I still can’t believe SN8 made it this far. Funny that she failed at the one this that was tested before.

>>12448946
Yeah and communism is a great idea on paper too.

>>12448987
Liberals control wikipedia and hate Elon Musk so they don't want to see "a billionaire" succeed

>>12449002
You mean deranged leftists. Stop letting the most illiberal group on the planet call themselves liberal.

>>12448987
What are the edits over?

>>12448987
>>12449002
Right now it says “Other” because SN8 “completed its objectives but failed to land.”

>I’m playing my role in history, willing to find my part
>Living with painful memories, loving with all my heart
>Made in heaven
>Made in heaven
>It was all meant to be

>>12448985
I applaud the 'tism, and I'm impressed you still show off your videos here. You've gotten way better at script writing and speaking with believable confidence. If I might make a suggestion: I think your channel would reap rewards in view counts and subscribers if you try out the Scott Manley form of presenting. Sit in front of your camera and show your face and have the script next to you. Try to recite most of the script into the camera and show the other footage when necessary. I think it would be fun just to try it out.

>>12448987
They didn't fly from the header tanks. They also never flew such a violent maneuver.
Weren't at least hopper tanks still pressurized with helium too?

>>12449031
every single ULA rocket ever launched failed to land but you don't see me editing them all to failures

So is good ol Musky boy gonna do the annual SS update now, or is he still going to just upload it as a blog post

>>12448987
are they having a pedantic shitfit over whether or not the test was a "success"?

>>12448839
over the build site now

>>12449051
If he does an annual update I hope he ONLY invites space autists instead of mainstream (((journalists)))
>HOW MUCH DID THE SN8 FAILURE COST
>HOW MUCH DOES STARSHIP COST
>ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE GAY BLACK TRANS NESTING SEA TURTLES

>>12449051
apparently he's going to do an interview with EA?

also do you guys think this is true?

>>12448985
Good video I really liked it. You have to be more of a “presenter” though. Unironically theres no shame in clickbait if you’re growing your channel.

>Why did SpaceX’s new MARS ROCKET CRASH
>Why the new VULCAN rocket will DEFEND AMERICA and BEAT SPACEX
>NASA’s new MOON rocket undergoes FAILURE in testing. WHY?

>>12448952
i feel bad for virgin-it's a genuinely cool spaceplane, and it is getting used for actual science and shit, but it feels like such a toy now what with the other stuff being done.

I do hope is pans out and the price of using it falls,i'd love to visit space someday.

>>12449062
If I was a worker at the site I’d definitely take a piece of SN8 home with me.

>>12449051
I mean Starship is pretty much done design wise. I guess they can go over interior designs but that’s all in the future.

>>12449062
they should just send the range control signal and see what blows up

>>12449067
in a more recent tweet elon said that there were non-trivial changes coming to SN15+

>>12449063
>>12448985
Also make sure to mention ISRO. That will give you several thousand views per video.
>INDIA’S NEW ROCKET TO FIGHT SPACEX

>>12449062
While I still find EA incredibly cringe, I am slowly (read: SLOWLY) growing a small respect for him. His norminal hat and "pointy end up" jokes are gay. But he asks really good questions and knows what he's talking about.

>>12449062
C-4, while being quite hard to detonate accidentally, is fairly flammable. I’d assume the charges burned up in the fireball.

>>12448899
I have way better facial hair than that dweeb, and less of an overbite.

>>12448898
The midwit curse is real in every field. I get along better with tradesmen than I do with spreadsheet weenies.

t. software guy

>>12449080
I wonder of the major upgrades are going to be visible at all or if they're all internals/QA

>>12449080
Goddamnit Elon stop introducing variables into testing.

>>12449080
>>12449086
>>12449087
and this one

>>12448985
Do the paraffin start up in germany
https://www.hyimpulse.de/en/

>>12448985
Do Pegasus+Stargazer and talk about why air launch is a meme.

>>12449086
Different anon but off the cuff, I suspect the welds will become cleaner with the integration of more automated processes. Also the fins will probably start to look less like aluminum foil and more like official fins. Also they might clean up the engine bay and landing legs. I'm really excited to see when they will first slap windows on (this will likely be way down the road, after the first few orbital tests and probably even after they launch starlinks to orbit)

>>12449101
Cargo and tanker variants will never get windows so probably the first test of the crew variant.

>>12448985
KAWAII

>>12449088
fuck

>>12449084
is that part of the reason the landing explosion was so impressive?

>>12449082
yeah, he's done his research and is actually pretty fluent when answering questions on stream. While part of his behavior might be a bit "onions" overall it probably appeals to normies etc. His raptor video was unironically great in how it made a complex topic digestible for new people. He's overall a net positive for spaceflight I feel, and his success will inspire more people to get into the field at large.

>>12448898
I love how spacex is making that "use the most difficult/expensive tech all the time for the hell of it" approach look stupid. Humans just don't seem to do well with infinite funding and time. They need constraints to get their asses on gear. I feel that part of SpaceX's success if BECAUSE they're frugal and operate at a breakneck pace. They don't give themselves time to overthink themselves to death

Delta launch already delayed by 2 hours lmao

how much of this land does spacex own?

So how does one test for proper pressurization of the header tanks? Also what’s everyone’s consensus on SN9?

Will she make it? My heart cannot bear the pain anymore.

>>12449140

astra hopefully launching tomorrow.

>>12448881
>omg I’m literally retarded

>>12449140
Small. Most is state/federal property

>>12449142
9 always wins

>>12449153
>put "black lives matter" on rocket
>it explodes and destroys other people's expensive payloads
pottery

>>12448970
It's 20k in the developed coastal places, it's more like 10k average overall.

Still massively impressive when you consider that they had an economy the size of India's in 1987 and now they're two thirds the size of the US.

>>12449169
>Put “black lives matter” on a rocket.
>Payload is a swastika

>>12448784
Well the French certainly don't

>>12448864
The software and the engines are the secret sauce, everything else is trivial for the governments that ITAR is meant to keep stuff away from.

>>12448784
The bitter journalist making the best thing in spaceflight in the last 5 years into dramatised bad news will never go to mars lmao, they're loser dinwits and are NGMI

>>12449085
>you're a programmer? Specializing in 3D spatial data analysis? Let me tell you about this awesome macro I wrote
It makes me want to kill myself. I don't want to talk about my code, much less hear about your troubles with vba.

>>12449153
The cowards aren't gonna stream it again, but at least we'll get some more Kinodiak with John Kraus back on site.

>>12449117
>is that part of the reason the landing explosion was so impressive
No. C-4 wouldn’t detonate due to a deflagration like you saw in the crash. It requires a fast detonation to shock it into exploding. Even shooting C-4 is unlikely to detonate it. C-4 readily ignites and burns without exploding if exposed to a sufficiently high temperature. Look up the mythbusters episode on C-4 if you wanna see it in action.

I wonder how much panic was going on in oldspace offices when the flop/flip move succeeded.
I feel like that was the point where most people assumed the test would go wrong, but they nailed the maneuver on the first attempt and even managed to make it look graceful.

Someone here got meme jacked hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ0PP0BoOpo

>>12449245
98% chance they’re jerking each other off over the landing failure and patting themselves on the back. Even when Starship makes it to orbit they’ll still bitch about it.

>>12449245
Shelby collapsed in his home, sensing a great disturbance in the Finance, as if a million cost-plus contracts cried out at once and were silenced.

>>12449245
if it hadn't already dawned on them how embarrassingly far behind they were, it surely sunk in then.
I just wonder if it's enough to stop the new NASA admin from messing around with Artemis. If SN9 completes the hop and sticks the landing by inauguration I don't think there's anyone who could possibly say no to the reduction in costs and increase in capabilities that the Starship affords.

>>12448784
> French
> Human

>>12448278
lmao the COPV lands right next to the united rentals equipment

>>12449258
Lobbyists are powerful as fuck. I bet SpaceX goes it alone

>>12449225
Wtf do they launch from a large cliff?? The geology of that area looks amazing

>>12449258
>I don't think there's anyone who could possibly say no to the reduction in costs and increase in capabilities that the Starship affords
You'd be amazed. Lots of people equate "low cost" with "low quality", and thus see SpaceX as a threat for trying to drive down costs in an industry that's well known for being high tech and "dangerous". desu I think non-military government groups will resist Starship until it finally supersedes Apollo in some big way

>>12448784
They are still asspained that Musk is going to flood the Europe with German-made Teslas

>>12449249
Based
Felt bad that I laughed desu.
Let us not mourn her death but celebrate her life

>>12449256
Hehehe

>>12448784
Eussr space programs are socialist mKe work programs. They have no interest in reusable rockets. As it would mean building fewer rockets and employing less people.

>>12448456
>..what the fuck? Why the hell are libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex?

Because they can't cope with the fact that Elon proves the superiority of private industry in terms of actually delivering space hardware in a cost effective and timely manner

In the time it took SLS to do some static fires and pressure tests, SpaceX built a fully reusable first stage, a fully certified crew capsule, and an SSTO testbed

>>12448328
>be rocket engineer

work for national agency
>$$$$$$$$
>$$$$$$$$
>$$$$$$$$
>$$$$$$$$
>$$$$$$$$
>work as comfortable as possible even if it takes you 200 years to finish a task
>Your job is not only legally forced to exist but also, the same congressmen who have no problem torturing afghan children with razors to their balls are PERSONALLY invested in ensuring you always get to keep your job

work for private company
>Earn slightly above an ice cream delivery man
>Great learning opportunities! much better than a wage
>Don't complain! we're a team! you're a team player right?
>vacation? sure! tell you what make it a permanent one and let someone more motivated do your job
>In the time you spent complaining about 25 hour work day you could have worked some more
>compete with every deranged kid in the country whos willing to pay to work at spacex, if you work your ass off there's a 0.0001% of a 0.1% salary increase.
>no matter what you do all of the glory and recognition will go to elon musk, even if he actively denies it

Yeah no private space is great for results that people outside of it enjoy, like we do, but must be hell to work in

https://youtu.be/2TxiKyBus2s
What do you guys think?

I wonder how much faster starship will fall during descent when it's got an interior and heat shielding. Did SN8 have a mass simulator?

>>12449298
Its not the fact elon/spaceX is private industry. Its the fact he and his underlings are passionate about space flight while NASA is filled with low IQ midwits and mouth breathers that just want job security.

>>12448456
>.what the fuck? Why the hell are libs FOR entities heavily integrated into the defense complex?

because reality is a bit more complicated than you can learn on the internet, which is the sole source of information for 98% of people

im about to blow your mind

in order for nasa to beat the soviets they had to organize production in the most communistical way possible, if anything they were much more communistical than the soviets, and furiously anti free market .

but better dont go downt hat route kid, finding out that you dont know shit about shit is the real black pill, now step 1) recognize that youo never read a whole history book from start to finish
2) recognize that youd need to read at least 5 to be at baby begginer level who barely deserves respect
3) recognize that youre waaaaaaaaaa(1234789023478237489324 times to the amount of atoms in the universe amount of "a"s) y below that level

>>12449304
Nice editing

>>12449304
suomi

>>12449311
thanks
>>12449312
Berkl

>>12449310
I wouldn't say communistical. I would say nationalsocialtisical

>>12449309
Why would you work for NASA if you want job security? just go contract for a bridge or highway or something nigga lmaoooo

>>12449318
or get a contract for an SLS

>>12449042
Noice v8 m8

>>12448173
Easily the coolest thing of 2020, fuck coronavirus, fuck the haters

>>12449309
>Its the fact he and his underlings are passionate about space flight while NASA is filled with low IQ midwits and mouth breathers that just want job security

I'm sure that's true for some portion of NASA employees, but the ones I've personally interacted with (mainly those at JPL working on actual groundbreaking stuff with unmanned exploration) are just as passionate as I'm sure most SpaceX employees are.

The problem is that NASA has been restrained by ungodly amounts of red tape ever since the shuttle era. Starship is really going to be the first big innovation in manned spaceflight since the 70s.

>>12449299
>work 40 hour work weeks
>accomplish nothing

vs

>work 80 hour work weeks
>get to see what you're doing create revolutionary technology and change the world

I'd rather do the latter desu.

How fast was SN8 going at impact? It feels like 3 more seconds of burning would’ve been enough to have a good landing.

>>12449337
>mfw I come back to a properly detailed thread after shitposting about work ethic

>>12449345
Derailed*

Another great hurdle is making sure Starship can survive reentry AND perform the Crazy Elon maneuver without anything important being destroyed.
I wonder how they will test this?
IF Starship can SSTO with no cargo they would not have to wait for Super Heavy prototypes to begin testing reentry maneuvers and the hexagonal heatshields.
Exciting times lay ahead.

>>12449337
You can still get meaningful stuff done on a 40hr work week if you're not a lazy ass like an SLS contractor

>>12449353
They can fly straight up to 100 km then fall back down. It’s fast and high enough that TPS is still needed but low and slow enough that even if TPS fails, the starship will be fine. SpaceShipTwo uses TPS on its flights but a leaked report showed that it could land fine without it, albeit damaged.

>>12448985
I'm glad you're still at it! Thought you'd burned yourself out

>>12448961
> 80kg
I suppose that's just about an astronaut, if he's skinny

>>12449389
They’re French so it shouldn’t be hard

>>12449082
I agree. His entire schtick is normalfag bait which can be exhausting at times but his videos are legitimately informative (his video on FFSC is way better than Manley's explaining the same thing). I also respect that he is dumping money into his production values and getting complex animations and graphics done. It's not necessary but it shows a dedication that most Youtubers completely lack.

Every Starship launched from Texas will be required to have the State Flag painted on.

>>12449404
He made thousands of dollars in donations on his stream yesterday. I spotted a guy who donated $500. Who does that!?

>>12448784
I feel sorry for these guys really. They can do some awesome stuff but need to realise other countries can do awesome stuff as well. I think it's a massive inferiority complex from WW2 desu

>>12449299
People need something to live for, now more than ever. I work a mundane warehouse job that pays well, if I could take a pay cut to go down to Boca Chica and drive a forklift or clean toilets or something I would jump at the chance just to be in proximity to something that actually matters.

>>12449429
You have NO idea anon.

>>12449429
Better than going to some vtumor or a thot selling bath water.

>>12449442
>This is the guy who calls you Chud online

>>12449442
The internet was a mistake

>>12449082
All's fair when it comes to the insurmountable task of getting normies to care about anything of actual significance

>>12449254
The MBAs might be, but anyone with an engineering background has to understand just how much this test proved.

>>12449429
It's insane but some people have way too much cash to burn and just want to feel like they're helping. While the donators are morons it was nice to see how much all the different streams have improved the last ~6 months. EA has 6K and 120 fps cameras, LabPadre has 4K and thermal cameras, NSF has like 4 angles (all ruined by them screaming like little girls). While they may be grifting, at least they're putting some of that grift to good use.

If the superchatters had any brains they would sit on their money until Starlink goes public and then dump their entire life savings into it. Then they can both make a shitload of returns while also actually directly contributing to SpaceX's development.

>>12449418
10 gallon hat on every starship is also required

>>12449442
Remember that one guy who donated $1000 to EA's stream so he could propose to his girlfriend and have it show up in the chat stream and EA didn't even notice?

>>12449429
Honestly I think most people are generous and want to give away their money to people who need it, they just don't donate to charity because it's a black hole that you'll never see anything tangible out of. When a person forms a parasocial relationship and actually believes the podcaster/whatever is genuine in their need for money to keep producing the thing that person likes, it's easy to connect the dots and feel confident that their money is at least being used to do something. Of course this is predicated on forming unhealthy parasocial relationships in the first place and placing trust in complete strangers that probably shouldn't be placed, but it's not hard to imagine the mindset.

>>12449468
>sit on their money until Starlink goes public and then dump their entire life savings into it
I'll be honest this is what I'm planning to do. Not my entire savings but a good amount. It seems too good to be true so I'll probably lose everything desu.

>>12449343
> It feels like 3 more seconds of burning would’ve been enough to have a good landing.
videos more or less confirm this. It was slowing down excellently but then sped up once the engine started choking - https://youtu.be/_jY14qHWFs0

>>12449485
I support one and only one content creator financially by Patreon, and that is because I genuinely want him to continue making podcast episodes. I can't image dumping money for an internet thot.

Neat.

>>12449483
Kek why do people do this. Also how do people know EA is divorced? I've always wondered this

>>12449513
SHUT IT DOWN

>5.6% of Americans are millionaires
>20% of American households bring in less than $20k a year
>99% of Americans donate to her onlyfans when she bats her eyelashes
is this what mars will be like?

>>12449513
Kek

>>12448173
SOMEONE PUT THE EXPANSE MUSIC UNDER THIS AND I MIGHT AS WELL FAP

I put eggnog in my coffee

>>12449553
Never nogged before. How is it?

>>12449558
Like using half and half cream, but noggier

>>12448401
https://www.americaspace.com/2020/12/08/long-delayed-nrol-44-mission-aims-for-thursday-night-launch/
>After eight foiled launch attempts, two last-second aborts and an unenviable 13 months sitting on the launch pad, will Thursday finally be NROL-44’s day?

>>12449553
sounds good

>>12449539
they'll probably remove it soon. Can't have anything good in trending

>>12449566
Betteridge's law of headlines says 'no'

>>12448920
if engines are the only problem they can just source from the russians, they still know how to make hot shit engines, just don't have the capital lying around to develop new launch vehicles

>>12449513
More views then crew-1 launch, unless the livestream got more and the video is gone

>>12449566
>liftoff
>right core BRAAAAAPS and shuts off at T+5
>N1 tier fireball
>Delta IV retired

>>12449337

>work 40 hour work weeks
>earn shitloads of money and enjoy your free time with it
>accomplish nothing

vs

>work 80 hour work weeks
>earn shit and have an ulcer a heart attack at age 30
>get to see what you're doing create revolutionary technology and change the world

>>12449592
it was a very dramatic test. Easy to share.

>>12449442
No Refunds

https://youtu.be/maEWAuCnBgc

space will unironically save us by bringing us together. EVERYONE loves this shit.

>>12448490
They have to. Though it's not a military practice as common as it used to be in WW2. Maneuvering was absolutely foundamental during air attacks and you could not launch or land aircrafts during attacks because of the high, unpredictable rolling evasive maneuvers.

>>12448985
>Any rocket you guys want me to make a quick video about?
Long March 5

>>12449519
someone asked him about it and he bluntly acknowledged it. Then he moved on.

i know he's kinda a basedboy, but I like tim. he never spouts off about politics and he actually knows a lot for a non-expert.

>>12449612
This angle really shows how close it was to sticking the landing. It hangs for a second right before the thrust cuts out

>>12449513
I don't care how many Karens and Tyrones are screeching about this, Musk gets things done, and by the time Boink scrubs another test, because they got 0,00001 off in some calculations, SpaceX will not only make the Starship fly, but also land safely, regardless whether it will be SN9, SN10, or SN11.

>>12449299
While SpaceX pays an ok salary for the industry the incentives they are offered in stock options more than makes up for it. Plus having stock options would likely increase teamwork across all sections as everyone is pulling in the same direction for the company to succed.

>>12449592
The views are nuts. NSF has 2.3 million. EA has 1.8 mil. WAI has almost 1 mil.

and FUCK YOUTUBE/GOOGLE for betraying your userbase and prioritizing corporations over actual humans. Independent sites like NSF are hard to find via search; instead this mass-produced nasty trash is put above everything else. Eat shit.

>>12448227
Have they considered making air brakes or something like that? I love sticking those on KSP craft

>>12449630
for real. The theory and modeling behind it all is simply correct. Just need to work out a few kinks so that the hardware can match it.

>>12449258
>I just wonder if it's enough to stop the new NASA admin from messing around with Artemis.
if biden gets in no way, current dems love to suck boeing cock

>>12449650
that's pretty much what the flaps are

Hugely under-rated part of the test is the size footprint of the raptors. The fact they can gimbal so sharply and so quickly in such a tight cluster is really crazy for such a high power engine.

>>12449650
The ship itself is the airbrake. Sticking more little flaps on their would add weight and just screw with the aerodynamics of the main control flaps.

>>12449630
I unironically believe that if they decided to hover slam it, she would’ve made it.

>>12449170
~40-50% of their population rests on coastal place. If you look at how many million+ cities there are in China, you'll see 100s of them. US has only few dozen. The big cities like Beijing/Shanghai/etc are 20-30 million each. That's more population than many european countries.

>>12448247
half that, about 100 mph

>>12449701
no 100m/s seems right from the videos/analysis I saw, unless you have some other source

So why did the header tank lose pressure?

>>12449704
Most analysis I saw said 100m/s average, but didn't account for the thickening atmosphere so right before the flip it was likely a bit lower.

>>12449708
Most logical speculation I saw was that in addition to the fuel feed switching from main tanks to header tanks, they also needed to switch the autogenous pressurization lines over. It's possible that while the LOX tank -> LOX header valve worked, the Methane tank -> Methane header valve malfunctioned in some way.
No confirmation that that's the case, but it would make sense and explain why the header had enough pressure to restart but quickly petered out since the tank wasn't being backfilled by the engines.

lol soichi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXiCF0MyFI

>>12448697
Redeemer of Souls blew ass

>>12449728
The assimilation of Texas culture into the realm of space is going swimmingly, I see

>>12449685
>>~40-50% of their population rests on coastal place. If you look at how many million+ cities there are in China, you'll see 100s of them. US has only few dozen.
That's because a majority of the US population lives in suburbs that look and act like multi-generational Roman military encampments to besiege the foreign populations currently occupying the cities. We saw that in action this summer as all attempts to expand the rioting out into the suburbs were met with armed response.

Wikipedia removed the Success/Failure part of the Starship page haha

>>12449728
Jealous of the japaneese for this great coverage. Wish their were subs

>>12449737
Not as much as you.

>>12449648
>Independent sites like NSF are hard to find via search; instead this mass-produced nasty trash is put above everything else. Eat shit.
?
It literally shows up first

>>12449728
Guy's living the dream.

>>12449553
>not drinking it black
Girls aren't allowed on 4chan.
The only acceptable additive to coffee is whisky.

>>12448864
heat shield tech is on lockdown
the insides of turbopumps

There's people at the pad on LabPadre's stream right now. Don't know if they've been around before this.

>>12449760
these are probably customized for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5l9ZxsG9M

Multiple people climbing the launch mount right now, look like their investigating for damage.
Roll SN9 out you cowards.

>>12449767
But there are no acceptable additives to whiskey.
How curious a situation.

>>12449784
The nosecone is in great shape, wow.

>>12449784
Early on there were some people searching around the fields as well

>>12449791
Someone needs to shop a couple into EoE.

They're bringing the excavators in.

>>12449789
>But there are no acceptable additives to whiskey.
Ice.

>>12449482
basado

>>12449789
Whiskey and coke is fun. When I started drinking I mixed up wine and coke

>>12449832
>So you thought you could just scroll past without saying howdy?

>>12449464
Engineers haven't made decisions in spaceflight since Nixon nix'd von Braun's dreams (other than SpaceX and a handful of startups)

>>12449770
no its in incognito, i get pretty much the same results on a different PC

>>12449832
Noice

>>12449042
Thanks man, I'll consider it but it's hard enough trying to sound animated. Looking animated is gonna be a whole another thing, I'm afraid it's gonna turn into a hostage tape lol.

>>12449063
I'll try it! Also spaceX vids are like youtube crack.

>>12449091
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.A34035

I thought it was gonna be a complete meme, but it might be good for a nice 5 minute profile.

>>12449099
On the list for rockets in 10 mins or less for sure.

>>12449385
Got distracted I guess lol, It's a fun little hobby though.

>>12449627
On the list!

Thanks guys!

>>12448353
>wet-dress-rehearsal for a test-fire
Hah.
> failing it's wet-dress-rehearsal for a test-fire
Hahah.

You know. I wanted to make a hilarious overacted shitpost right now, but honestly I can't find the enthusiasm for it anymore. I thought I was at that point beyond mad where I just laugh if all off. But I think I'm moving even beyond that now. I think I actually just stop caring about SLS altogether right now.
SLS news just stop registering as actual spaceflight news to me. Because it doesn't have anything to do with space flight at the end of the day. They might as well be spending their money pretending to build a statue somewhere. Same exact impact on changing space flight in any way that matters.
I'm so fucking glad I don't live in that timeline where we're stuck with this.

>>12449091
that's actually pretty cool

>>12449304
Based!

>>12448985
Good vid

>>12449868
>SLS news just stop registering as actual spaceflight news to me.
And things are only going to get worse for SLS from this point forward. Going to be interesting to see whether it ever gets the chance to fly. I suspect it might be a close run thing

>>12449868
Welcome to the club. It breaks my heart seeing Jim have to constantly shill for it. In all honesty he seems so much more excited talking about Dragon delivering humans to space, or Falcon 9 being reused for a flight vs. having to talk about an "exciting" green run that will happen in 2 weeks even though it was delayed 2 weeks ago... or another Starliner setback

>>12449829
>take a really flavorful beverage
>cool it down and at the same time overly dilute it so it doesn't taste like anything anymore
I will never understand this. If you need ice in your whiskey then get a better whiskey.

>>12449648
>FUCK YOUTUBE/GOOGLE
I can get behind this

>>12449897
Drinking liquor neat is disgusting and if you enjoy it you have just convinced yourself that you like it

>>12449897
Get better ice retard

>>12449897
Ever had neat whiskey at 80°F ambient temperature? It's crap. Neat whiskey only works when it's significantly cooler.

>>12449902
Whiskeys are pretty intricate. Same as wine, really.

>>12449915
Ooooooooh.
That makes some amount of sense to me.

>>12449902
it's really not. Just don't buy shitty liquor.
My favorite part of drinking whiskey is that nobody ever pressures you into drinking more like they do with beer and wine. Nobody offers to refill you or will call you out for having a small amount of whiskey left in your glass. You can sit on a glass of whiskey all night and nobody ever notices or remarks on it. If you're at a party and don't really want to get drunk, just order a whiskey neat and nurse it all night.

>>12449513
Normalfags are waking up

>>12449936
And if you do want to get shitfaced just keep tossing them back! It's a versatile drink.

>>12449915
Tastes fine to me. I keep some in my pocket to swig while I’m out on the town

>>12449897
>dilute it

You are supposed to drink it fast so that the ice isn't melting into it you retard. Ice cold whiskey is objectively superior to room temperature regardless.

>>12449902
It’s impossible to be convinced you like something when you don’t actually like it. That’s not how reality works.

How long until SpaceX flies their next Starship prototype?

>>12449963
it's the same kind of narcissism people have when they think all beer drinkers are just doing it to fit in or all people who like abstract art are doing it to look smart because they legitimately can't accept not being able to understand the appeal of something.

>>12449971
2 weeks to 3 months

>>12449963
...for you

>>12449971
A month or two. It will probably be on the pad in a month, then another month of static fires/pressure tests

>>12449971
Upper bound is likely 3 or 4 months. They technically should be able to fire again within a few weeks, but they may be busy studying SN8 data or working on something else.

>>12449976
All modern """art""" starting with Duchamp's Fountain is undeniably gay and terrible. If you say you like it you are a lying retard trying to fit in

>>12449939
partial data
that will go back down. Indeed it is going back down if you look at a shorter time frame.

>>12449981
If Spacex really wanted to I could see them having SN9 ready to hop in 2 weeks

>>12449983
>busy studying SN8 data
true, although they've got a hell of a backlog of SNs to go through, and the message they put on the stream at the end ('SN9 up next' or whatever) seems to suggest they'll be trying again sooner rather than later. I bet about 2 months, they'll try and fix the header tank pressure thing if at all possible and just go again (if it is a procedural thing it will go faster, if they need to alter the structure of the header tanks we'll be waiting)

>>12449990
>modern art is a conspiracy
just learn to accept that there are things you don't like and other people do like. It's not hard, it's just a tiny bit of empathy.

>>12450003
Its just rich people who like ugly things and use their money and exposure to push ugly things on working class people. The problem is people like the celebration of the ugly

>>12450003
>>modern art is a conspiracy
It literally is though. The CIA started promoting it in the 50s as a way to demonstrate freedom of expression compared to Soviet art and now it's mostly used as money laundering. Anyone who legitimately likes it is retarded.

>>12450003
modern art is just a tax dodge
you've been had m8

>>12449760
weird

>>12450003
>please sir, may I have some more empathy for my paint splatters

>>12450006
>>12450010
>>12450014
unironically flat earth tier conspiracy theorists

>>12448173
This is so fucking surreal.
Give it a couple of days and we'll have retard infestation claiming it's cgi

>>12450026
t. money laundering Jew

>>12450026
Dude you're a fucking retard. Not my fault you legit like paint splatters and shit in cubes

>>12450029
I had to fight my own brain telling me it was CGI so I can understand that. It's totally out of context for anything people have seen before.

>>12450003
the only good modern art is furry porn

God DAMMIT starship totally could have landed yesterday had those header tanks held out just a bit longer. By the time raptor started consuming copper it had killed most of its velocity, but the asphyxiation of fuel caused it to start dropping toward the pad
https://youtu.be/maEWAuCnBgc?t=50

>>12450003
I like my son’s kindergarten scribbles, too.

>>12450076
yup. EASILY would have landed if it kept on its initial track

>>12450010
>It literally is though. The CIA started promoting it in the 50s as a way to demonstrate freedom of expression compared to Soviet art and now it's mostly used as money laundering

Socialist realism was unironically kino.

>>12450029
Of course we will. Humans see a metal cylinder the size of a building doing acrobatics and naturally think “what the fuck is that”

>>12449091
actually pretty cool. So it uses a solid fuel and a liquid oxidizer.

>>12450108

>>12450076
Yeah, and if it hadn't happened, that would be one less failure mode that SpaceX would know to fix. It's literally BETTER that it lithobraked, now they can make something work better. And it was totally kino too, this is space NASCAR.

>>12450114
that diagram is kinda bullshit but whatever

Random derailings (coffee/whisky/art) are fun when they're not political

https://twitter.com/Astro_Soichi/status/1337148241314344960
Our based nip at it again

more on using FUCKING WAX as a fuel: https://engineering.stanford.edu/magazine/article/rocket-fuel-made-wax

Looks like NASA has been screwing around with the stuff too.


>>12450116
I bet in the future they're going to really slam the ascent to try get any dormant flaws to reveal themselves.

>>12450085
The grain silo doing a rocket-powered bottle flip is okay(ish) by itself, but there's something in that shot that just makes it look not real. I guess it's a combination of hi-end image stabilization and some weird lens, as well as background, lighting and camera angle. I would actually have hard time believing it's not a rendering if I didn't watch the stream live and saw it first instead.

>>12450119
>liquid rockets
>not safe or reliable
>solid rockets
>safe
lolwut

>>12450135
>you just gonna orbit by without say'n howdy?

>>12450135
Absolutely, dangerously based

>>12449868
The only remarkable news relating to SLS is whenever a report shows how terrible the program management is

>>12450158
HOWDY!

>>12450145
I thought it was CGI until I saw the smoke + flames. It looked so clean, even the engine exhaust.

>>12450108
>100kN upper stage, Isp within 10s of the AJ10
That little third stage has the performance of an Apollo CSM. Not bad for an expendable wax rocket!

>>12450166
Christ that’s depressing

>>12450152
The most dangerous part working with a solid motor is the manufacturing. Storing and launching it is relatively simpler and safer than a liquid engine

>>12450179
The live action Ika Musume movie is looking great.

>>12450166
Fuck chimney rock, rebuilt that road dammit

>>12450136
a hybrid motor burning paraffin and LOX is just kerolox with less plumbing

>>12450169
the reason it looks so artificial is that an insane amount of lighting quick corrections are being don e in real time by an uncomprehensibly advanced ai to keep it PERFECTLY where it needs to go.

The whole endeavour is so ridiculously complex that it wouldnt work any other way, airplanes or even disposable rockets have that more natural woobly feel because they can allow some imprecisions. In this case its either close to perfect control or failure, thats why it will always look artificial until something goes very wrong