/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12420689
news flash: the world is full of retards

they're metaphors for metaphysics at play

things were in still balance, harmony, tranquility, then the "apple" was eaten, and it slapped "balance" into disarray, so it became like "balance through imbalance" at oscillating times, in motion.

if you've ever dated a latina or any bratty women, you can see this at play.
things will be going along charmingly, and they'll fuck it up just because in order to add some "excitement" to the situation

this stuff is reflective in our metaphysics.
even science has "language" or "myth" of expression of these things that isn't directly the play of forces itself.
mythology just humanizes these things.
as it's all an integrated system, it's all apart of our daily lives. it's apart of us as we are apart of it.

>>12420711
>if you've ever dated a latina

Well that was a non-sequitur.

>>12420722
there's a reason eve was chosen as the one "that fucked it up"
"she" is what sets the drama into play, and man is always trying to figure out how to harmonize it as it rolls on

>ITT literal children criticize our most profound histories, which serve as the basis for the entire Western civilization and its flimsy "science", because it "sounds funny"

>>12420782
>which serve as the basis for the entire Western civilization
It straight up doesn't. The basis for western civilization goes back well before christianity, and most of the values upon which western civilization is based come from ancient Crete, and more notably, ancient Greece and Rome.
In fact, religion has really had no positive impact since very early agrarian societies.

>>12420689
atheism is far more retarded. doesn't even make mathematical sense

>>12420689
Once in middle school in science we had a substitute teacher come in and have an autistic breakdown because he couldn't comprehend middle school science. He gave a lecture about hot the world was created as it is 6000 years ago and then rambled about how it's impossible for petrified trees to form because the trees apparently were long enough to reach between layers of different age rocks.
They legitimately are retarded as fuck.

>>12420958
A cursory evaluation of Western art and literature shows that essentially all of it is rooted in Christianity. While science and the rationalism it's based on owe a lot to the ancient Greek philosophers, Christianity had a large impact as well. It was Descartes' faith in God that allowed him to make the leap from "I think, therefore I am" to the human ability to acquire knowledge through reason and perception. Isaac Newton is another important figure of the Scientific Revolution and Christian, having written more on theology than he did on science and mathematics. And no wonder, why wouldn't a faith that holds an adherence to the truth so highly eventually lead to science?

"Why do the Christian nations, which were so weak in the past compared with Muslim nations begin to dominate so many lands in modern times and even defeat the once victorious Ottoman armies?"..."Because they have laws and rules invented by reason."

- Ibrahim Muteferrika, Rational basis for the Politics of Nations (1731)

>>12420689
>Being this butthurt that a bunch of superstitious laymen challenge your narrative
>When your entire methodology is based on challenging narratives

How do you talk out of both sides of your mouth like that?

>>12420689
Nah, covid deniers are stupider.

>>12420689
creationists are more philosophically intelligent than many scientists, in that they understand that evolution presents a serious challenge to all traditional human structures of meaning, purpose, and morality
their response is to bury their heads in the sand. maybe they're right.

>>12420689

Yes.

But they are also powerful in the us. I just lie to them that I am a Christian too when they try and bring it up, and have learned enough about the Bible to utterly deconstruct their bullshit before their own eyes of they try and test me.

>>12420782

America is an enlightenment movement founded by deists, and inspired by Athens Greece.

Christianity is a fucking cancer, and the reason why China is beating us is precisely because they outlawed it.

>>12421454

Is this a joke?

The Western style of theater, architecture, painting and sculpture were all invented in Athens, Greece. So too was Athletics, Academics, and our legal system and government.

Rome fell almost immediately after adopting the Christianity, and as I write this Christians are trying to destroy America. Christians are less than worthless, they are an actual deficit to a nation. China is winning because they outlawed your stupid fucking religion.

>>12420689
Direct correlation between levels of education and belief in the supernatural.
Poverty is also highly connected with the general level of education achieved.
Safe to say that people who believe in a god or gods are less likely to participate in critical thinking and build on knowledge that relies on an evidence based approach.

>>12421503
>evolution presents a serious challenge to all traditional human structures of meaning, purpose, and morality
In what way?

>>12421786
>In what way

Why do you even bother arguing with a retard faggot Christian? The Greeks gave us Academics, Athletics, ethics, theater, architecture, the arts... the retard faggot Christians gave us the dark ages, the fall of Rome & the collapse of America.

>>12420689
Religion (atleast mine, islam) agrees with science.
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_4_section_5.html

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-ga-rev1&ei=Xj7LX9X9OYTG5gLOlYLQBQ&q=creator+of+algebra&oq=creator+of+alg&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCAAQyQMyAggAMgYIABAWEB4yBQghEKABMgUIIRCgATIFCCEQoAE6AggpOggIABDqAhCPAToFCAAQkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOgsIABCxAxCDARCRAjoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoECC4QQzoECAAQQzoHCAAQsQMQQzoFCAAQsQM6CAguELEDEIMBOgoIABCxAxDJAxBDOgIILjoKCAAQyQMQRhD7AToNCAAQsQMQyQMQRhD7AToFCC4QsQNQmr0CWLjmAmD67wJoAnAAeACAAZgBiAGSC5IBBDEzLjKYAQCgAQGwAQ_AAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

https://www.whyislam.org/on-faith/the-quran-and-modern-science-3/

>>12420689
Imagine actually believing in your memories or physical evidence. The world was created last Thursday, anon.

>>12421903
Damn you're right, a winged flying horse is scientific. You can't fool me, I know you can lie for your shit religion

>>12421875
Ancient Greek stuff is only a tiny part of western civilisation though

>>12420689
Some people need delusion in order to not blow their brains out. I can't blame them, sometimes I wish I could believe retarded fairy tale bullshit

>>12420689
people who believe in this shit have no intellectual integrity whatsoever

it is a viral form of thinking, nothing more, there is no grand history, only the ability to spread to the weak minded

>>12421786
Not who you're responding to, but metaethical anti-realism. They would say that without an all powerful, all knowing being to ground the truth and necessity of normativity, ethical statements would either be always false or always incoherent, since there is no actual "rightness" being referred to

>>12420689
Imagine being on your death bed as your life is slipping away and you start feeling hotter and hotter as you slowly gravitate towards the gates of hell. Just hope you have enough time to accept Jesus as your saviour and ask forgiveness for all your sins hahahahahaha. Sounds like a larp doesn't it friend, I'll be there waiting for you on that day to make sure you enter those gates of hell with ease you piece of worthless human shit.
I've marked it on my calendar your last day on Earth. Guess what, you don't get to live to a ripe old age. See you there friend.

>>12420689
https://youtu.be/UuIwthoLies

>>12420958
>In fact, religion has really had no positive impact since very early agrarian societies.
not quite. Christianity did reunite Europe after the fall of Rome, allowing for enough cohesion to fight off the hunns, arabs and vikings.

>>12421454
>>12421540 This.
Also, Descartes and Newton are celebrated for their contributions to philosophy / science in the west. Not because of their religiousness.
As for Christian nations doing better than muslim nations... That's more evidence that religion holds a nation back. Muslim nations are far more religious than christian nations. In fact, the most successful "christian" i.e. western nations are secular.

>>12421454
>look, some of these scientists didn’t directly speak out against religion in a time where doing so would have resulted in them burning at the stake. This proves this one specific god created us in this one specific way that is not even so specific because some parts of the source are literal and others are purely symbolism, depending on what point I’m trying to make here.

>>12421681
there is a direct and simple mediator variable here.

>>12421492
>>12422003
a Covid = 14", a Cubit = 18"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_oIkBdA3Q4
Refute him. I dare you.

>>12422128
This has been debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMYIl5b-paY

>>12422128
The covid is a cubit less an hand breadth. HSMF 14"
The cubit is a covid and an hand breadth. Daniel 18"
The cubit is a cubit and an hand breadth. Ezekiel 22"

HSMF 14" from Core Drilling samples
(the alamo temple's ezekiel cubit)

>>12421681
>Direct correlation between levels of education and belief in the supernatural.
Direct correlation between which institution you're indoctrinated under

>>12422151
checked

>>12422179
Checked

>>12420689
Imagine being so smart you make a bunch of money by tricking idiots.

>>12422128
>>12422151
yes the mision san antonio de valero is the third temple.

>>12422257
checked

>>12420689
>autists ironically pretending to be so stupid and ignorant that they take metaphorical language literally
hmh, good thread, phaggot

>>12420689
>Are creationists the stupidest people on Earth?
Absolutely, the Creator is atheist.

YHWH Allah
(LORD God)

As a Christian, I struggled a lot with my faith because of people like Ken Ham. I guess because I looked to others for what to believe and rejected all of it over some things I did not agree with. Nowadays I understand humanity is a virtually endless well of stupidity, hate, and abuse, but coming to terms with that led me back. I still think Ken Ham is a moron.

>>12420689
well evolution as it currently knows sure doesn't explain most species.

You just can "evolve" whole new sets of structures at once.

So evolution of the species is just as bad if not worse than creation


It all just happened.

It pretty complex stuff looks kinda designed

>>12421272
>>12421516
>>12421519
>>12421540

>>12422277
>>12422179
they didnt even get digits wtf are you on about

>>12421272
Yes, your anecdote of your middle school teacher's nonsensical ramblings has successfully disproven god, christfags utterly btfo

>>12422550
in case you’re not trolling
>at once
The earliest signs of life we know about are 4 billion years old.
Take an average lifespan of 80 years, that’s 50 Million generations, neglecting the fact that more primitive ancestors had a shorter life span. Even in terms of the age of the universe, that is far from “at once”.

>>12422562
>if I post a silly meme instead of refuting him that means Christianity didn't get btfo
Post body faggot

>>12421994

You are so stupid.

>>12422008
Yeah, I guess the statement was an exaggeration. I stand by most of the sentiment though.

>>12420689
I don't see why theology and science have to disagree. Coming from a /x/ fag stand point they often go hand and hand with one another, anything magic/religion related uses God/metaphors/and so on to explain things but then science does said thing with numbers. Overall you'd be surprised on how much they agree, it's just the type of language you use I guess.

>>12421970
>They would say that without an all powerful, all knowing being to ground the truth and necessity of normativity, ethical statements would either be always false or always incoherent, since there is no actual "rightness" being referred to

Complete an utter bullshit. Our sense of write and wrong is dictated by our need for health / happiness, reproductive success and our value to the tribe.

>>12421994
>I'll be there waiting for you on that day to make sure you enter those gates of hell with ease you piece of worthless human shit.

The fact you would say this proves that you don't take Christianity seriously and are an atheist at heart.

>>12422022
>look, some of these scientists didn’t directly speak out against religion in a time where doing so would have resulted in them burning at the stake. This proves this one specific god created us in this one specific way that is not even so specific because some parts of the source are literal and others are purely symbolism, depending on what point I’m trying to make here.

1 million percent this. I know because I myself an a scientist who pretends to be a Christian just to keep those fucking psychopathic parasites off my back.

>>12422550
>well evolution as it currently knows sure doesn't explain most species.
>You just can "evolve" whole new sets of structures at once.
>So evolution of the species is just as bad if not worse than creation
>It all just happened.
>It pretty complex stuff looks kinda designed

You literally don't even know what you don't know. And no, it's not my job to teach you unless you pay me, bitch.

>>12420689
you can't even understand kindergarten level logic such as first cause that completely breaks newtonian cause and effect so your response is to "bury your head in the sand" as some anon said theists do. You are a hack and clown that barely understands any cosmology if at all. you are literally just an ideogical faction NPC we zero understanding of the theology, symbology and science of either side of the argument you are attempting to have. In short you are massively retarded and just basically saying "my side right your side wrong". Oh really what does "your side" even day.
>uh herp derp I don't really know
oh ok so what does "my side" say?
>uh herp derp not really sure
you are fucking retarded op

>BELIEVE SCIENCE YOU FUCKING RETARDS!
>ok fist cause breaks newtonian physics which everything you call "science" is based on
>shit starts pouring out of your ears while you drool all over yourself
>I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE

>>12422630
He was checking himself

>>12420689
Oh and btw mr "science" the only thing that fixes first cause and keeps Newtonian cause and effect intact is that this reality is not linear, it is cyclical. Not only that I have proven it is correct beyond question if you aren't too stupid to understand simple math and logic. Of course this is /sci/ so most can't

>>12424947
>you can't even understand kindergarten level logic such as first cause that completely breaks newtonian cause and effect so your response is to "bury your head in the sand" as some anon said theists do. You are a hack and clown that barely understands any cosmology if at all. you are literally just an ideogical faction NPC we zero understanding of the theology, symbology and science of either side of the argument you are attempting to have. In short you are massively retarded and just basically saying "my side right your side wrong". Oh really what does "

I'm am going to do you a favor and prove how fucking retarded you Evangelicals are.

Jesus Christ, being God, wrote the Bible, right ("I am the alpha omega", etc...)?

Jesus Christ teaches in parable, right?

Genesis is a perfect parable for evolution, you realize that, RIGHT? Evolution is literally diagrammed as a Tree of Life.

Now shut the fuck up, you traitorous Evangelical fuck.

>>12420689
The people that devote so much time attacking irrelevant groups like creationists are even lower.

>>12424947
>>12425010

Why the fuck did I have to do you traitorous Evengalicals jobs for you? You people make me fucking sick. In all this time you didn't realize that according to Scripture, Jesus wrote the old testament and teaches in parable, and Genesis is a perfect parable for evolution? You literal fucking piece of shit. Do you realize how easy it was for me to destroy your entire fucking identity and narrative - have you people been doing anything in your churches other than plotting treason? I'm the poster who said I am a scientist who only pretends to be Christian because you people are traitors psychos but can rape your entire fucking worldview if I need to, and I just proved it. Your interpretation of Scripture is fucking garbage, you worthless sack of shit. Is it my job to do everything? I am better than you at science AND scripture! Go fuck yourself.

>>12421519
They are beating you because they have a higher population with an authoritarian government while America is consumed by hedonism and internecine struggle.

>>12425027
>They are beating you because they have a higher population with an authoritarian government while America is consumed by hedonism and internecine struggle.

Authoritarianism only works when the leader at the top is a pure atheist / scientist / materialism. I am fine with fascism as long as we have a real leader and not some brainwashed religious Christian fucking retard praying to God for answers rather than crunching hard data.

BUT

America's strength is its individualism. American needs to DOUBLE DOWN on freedom by instituting basic income. China can go fuck itself. If we start becoming authoritarian because China is authoritarian than we are already their servants.

>>12425019
I'm not a Christian and gave absolutely zero indication I was. You are a massively retarded fucking idiot that makes baseless assumptions which is why you are so stupid and not fit for science . Didn't read anything else in your retarded ramblings after such a gross error but I will bet both my nuts it is just as retarded as the opening so there is no need to. go back to pleebit and kys soicuck

Cartoons are cooler than gluons and quarks even Quark is cooler as a cartoon.

>>12421994
The guy who crucified me escaped hell though, because free-will only partially allows permanent decisions which could lead to permanent hell/salvation. So you can leave hell, or enter hell anytime, in a way it's not fully permanent. Same with me, I'm ultimately perfect, as the universe can tell that I would ultimate forfeit my life for others if I was forced to, yet my current decisions keep myself and the universe in purgatory and I live as a demiurge, which is why we live on this earth and not heaven or whatever. This is my human body. Christians in an atheist reality seem pretty stupid, but of course a fish on land doesn't survive very well. Maybe if I released the world from purgatory we'd see an alternate universe where Christians/spiritual-peoples success dominates that of the scientific atheists.

>>12425189
>ultimate
ultimately*

>>12421875
>faggot
Ironic using that term when you’re jacking the Greeks off

According to someone I was discussing evolution with, something from the Cambrian period discovered in a cave disproved evolution. Do you guys have any idea what he is talking about?

>>12421875
t. Jew Brain

>>12425045
Christian kings were quite fine with sponsoring science.
>America's strength is its individualism
Americas strength is the wealth and order it established post war.
> American needs to DOUBLE DOWN on freedom by instituting basic income
If manufacturing is still within foreign nations all you would be doing is draining the national wealth faster by stimulating consumption.
>than we are already their servants
If you don't confront your rival you can't win and you aren't able to mount a coherent opposition when your executive power is so impotent.

>>12425108
Just because I am a tranny doesn't mean I consume a lot of soi you fucking asshole. redit better than here anyway chud

>>12425490
I knew OP was a tranny. I have a 6th sense for you discord trannies always trying to subvert /sci/ and STEM

>>12420689
>stupidest
OP is a fag.

>>12425326
>If you don't confront your rival you can't win and you aren't able to mount a coherent opposition when your executive power is so impotent

People always forget why the Greek culture has dominated for thousands of years.

In ancient Greece all men were considered equal, and land (i.e. food and resource) was a right of citizenship. Now, the Spartans tried to conquer the Greeks and did so by assassinating the Greek leaders (the elders), and do you know what happened? The Spartans were defeated anyway, because Greece had no true leader, the system was the leader and it was decentralized within every Greek (similar to the internet or blockchain) and the only way to conquer the Greeks was to kill all of them. America's strength is in that kind of decentralized system. That is why we innovate and dominate. As soon as you fascist Christian (pardon my language) FAGGOT fuck with that, that will be the end of America. You are too fucking stupid to understand these things.

>>12425567
>FAGGOT

FAGGOTS

And you fascists truly are faggots, by the way. The root of the word fascism (Italian word) is fascism, "bundle of sticks", Mussolini meant to convey strength, but sadly for him, the direct translation in English is FAGGOT, you fascist faggot.

>>12425570
>fascism

Fascismo

>>12420689
take any bible cartoon and compare it to this
literally the same bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpXrbZ4bnU

>>12422257
this

>>12424726
theology is based on doctrine, science strives to derive truth via evidence.
Sure, you can propose some doctrine as hypothesis and perform experiments to test it, but virtually every doctrine is built in a way to make inquiry intrinsically impossible or stated vaguely as a defense against exposing some made up garbage as what it is.

>>12422630
czeched

>>12420689
Low iq: believing it word for word
Midwit iq: the creation story is retarded
High iq: understanding the original intended meaning

>>12420689
>taking the bible at face value
>not realizing its a guide to not being a fucking asshole to other people couched as an explanation for existence to get people to buy into it.
Jesus would fucking hate Christianity. It took all his teachings and used them as justification to do heinous shit in his name. All the dude wanted was for people to stop being cunts.

>>12420689
They aren't retarded, they know it's wrong deep deep inside. It's just that their personality, character, who they are, is built around their belief. So they can either abandon it which is essentially killing yourself mentally, or double down and defend it and become more arrogant and ignorant.

It's incredibily hard to give up brain washing.

This former Westboro baptist church woman is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVV2Zk88beY

>creationists are ignorant and delusional people lacking education and common sense, mindless slaves repeating what they are being told with zero intellectual capacity and reason to think for themselves
>yikes peeps did y'all know we live in a simulation!? I heckin' love science!