/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12400383
Yes, it has negative effects on society but don't expect it to change.

>>12400383

1 - there is only one race, only individuals are stupid, or

2 - there are different races of humans and some races are smarter than others.

>>12400395
Why? Why this denial of reality? How is this """""""scientific""""""""?

>>12400436
The short and obvious answer is that Jews want gentiles to be sufficiently dumbed down that they will be permanently incapable of resisting Jewish tyranny.
The best way to achieve this is by leveraging their power in media, politics, and education to convince non-jewish whites to destroy their superior genetic lineage by breeding with mud races.
I mean, sure people will screech
>back to >>>/pol/ !!!11!!
But it's a basic inescapable fact, which is why discussion about it is so heavily suppressed.

>>12400399
Usually people mean there are differences in IQ between ethnic groups. Do different ethnicities exist? Yes. Do they all have the same IQ? No

>>12400383
This anon again. Your arguments would be better received on /pol/ among other racist NEETs

>>12400383
>Cites published papers
>WHY WON'T THE ESTABLISHMENT ACKNOWLEDGE THIIIIIIIIIIS
I'm going to make a bet that every paper cited in the image provides context that completely invalidated any /pol/ conclusions being drawn from them, and further that for every argument refuted in this thread, precisely nobody is going to even acknowledge for a second that they were wrong. They'll just move on to the next one, and the next one, and at no point will any debunking done be worth the effort it took. I know this because, by starting the thread on the false premise that nobody acknowledges the relation you have spotted, you are already divorced from reality.

Repeat after me OP
There's only one race the human race.
Black lives matter.
Repeat after me OP.
Now stop spamming this.

>>12400550
>ad hominem
I bet you think of yourself as an intellectual, too, lmao

>>12400550
>>>/lgbt/

>>12400557
>>>r/Iamverysmart
rofl kys you fucking pseud donkey. Do you wear clown make up too in public or only in the privacy of your own home posting on anime forums?

>>12400609
More published papers, why do you think this supports your narrative that this is being suppressed? As recent as 2018, isn't that after ((((((((((((jews))))))))))) assumed direct control over all the information streams or whatever?

>>12400436
Society is not ruled by science, it is ruled by emotion.

>>12400558
>Black lives matter.
No lives matter

Life matters

>>12400383
They would have to admit that whites are an inferior race.

>>12400810
oh ok, makes sense

>>12400383
Because iq doesn't mean much and the differences aren't significant and can basically he explained by the societal differences

>>12400505
why are you quoting a journalist in sci... mate.

>>12400383
imo its nonsense.
you just need a few generations of good nutrition and education among all the other positive stimulus.

Knock the ghettos down and spread the people out. Maybe they'll integrate. Maybe they won't. Either way "black culture" will die. Concentrated groups of dumb people just gives you shit holes like Indian reservations or West Virginia.

>>12401638
>>12402662
>noo not my niggies nooo they are smart and valid noooo

>>12402662
>>12401638
Show the evidence for this. The opposing argument (that blacks are low IQ, that IQ is strongly hereditary and that IQ is a good predictor of life outcome and therefore a valuable psychometric) has a lot of evidence going for it. All you do is spout opinions that you hope are true.

>>12402741
lol logic and science are just a narrative like any other and it is not proven at all it investigates anything

This is because formalized science is based on logicized maths, hyped as ''the language of the universe'' by posci addicts lol

and logicized maths is based on logic

all mathematicians are logic babies addicted to ZFC and they are all platonist, ie ''numbers are real bro not social construct''.

By the way truth is not found in logic. Logic is just a field by autistic pedants about well formed formulas and valuations, ie sending a formula to 1 or 0 and asking what are those valuations which are stable under inference rules. Zero truth in this, especially truth in the casual sense. Tarski truth is moronic, meaningless. Peak atheist.
Just like there is no truth in science, just some stats and a stat convention for saying ''if p value is XXX then the result is''true''''

This is why science is shit for politics and even for daily life.
At best scientists can come up about some stats about some formal system. Like ''this material has such and wear and tear, therefore our backlog of such conditons lead to 60% of breaking in the next year''
That's the pinnacle of the scientific claim and all their claims remain phrased as uncertainty.

all of this because the brain got bigger while the cranium stayed the same.

>>12400436
It's SCIENCE!!™ tific.

>>12400650
Science is not ruled by science. It's ruled by emotion. Even scientists who have been right have been right in spite of the available evidence. (See: Mendeleev and Galileo) The memes of rigour and peer review have been a disaster for the science race.

>>12402775
I know your post is satire, but there are people who really think like that and that's quite frightening.

>>12400383
Universities have become a cathedral with dogmas, it is no longer science. Why because women have started entering universities at large and they (generalization, not all) do not care about truth at all, they care about equality, getting together, and virtue signaling their loyalty to the in group, which is incredibly progressive.

>>12400656
Especially not that faggot's.

>>12402741
Flynn Effect.

Population average IQs have increased by MORE than the (shrinking) gap between races in the last 50 years, all due to environmental factors. This shows that environmental factors are significantly stronger than genetic ones.

Second, "hereditary" in a biological sense is a lot less applicable than your camp likes to believe. It only measures heritability in very controlled circumstances, and is unsuitable for comparison between environmentally distinct populations.

Third,
>IQ is a good predictor of life outcome and therefore a valuable psychometric
By this reasoning you could call parents' income a good psychometric. IQ measures ability to work with a narrow range of tasks that are commonly encountered in school, for sure, but that doesn't mean you've measured anything inherent, especially when many studies correlate swings in individual IQ with changes in socioeconomic factors.

If these guys were living today, they would be considered homo sapiens sapiens and if you thought they had low IQ you'd be considered a racist.

>>12402995
Black IQ and academic achievements in western socities are lower than those of whites and asians even when you control for socioeconomic factors.

>>12403026
You failed to address the flynn effect argument.

>>12402995
>citing Flynn for anything ever
that guy has been proven to just cite data and studys he just made up ad hoc when writing his papers multiple times

>>12403078
I am not citing Flynn the person, I am citing the effect named after him, which as of yet appears well supported by a variety of sources.

>>12403066
The flynn effect peaked in western societies and it is now going in the reverse direction. This goes for all ethnic groups in western socities. Like everyone else, blacks in western societies have already had the maximal gain in IQ from the flynn effect, and still the gap is there when you control for socioeconomic factors.

Why is this such a sore point? People aren't worth less cause they have -10 or -15 IQ on average, at the end of the day people should be judged for their individual character.

>>12403103
>People aren't worth less cause they have -10 or -15 IQ on average, at the end of the day people should be judged for their individual character.

>>12403108
>>People aren't worth less cause they have -10 or -15 IQ on average, at the end of the day people should be judged for their individual character.

>>12400383
They are too ideologically motivated for that. Plus lack of conservatives in academia is another factor too

>>12400557
>I'm going to make a bet that every paper cited in the image provides context that completely invalidated any /pol/ conclusions being drawn from them,
This is something shitlibs like to tell themselves because they can't refute those papers themselves.

>>12401638
>Because iq doesn't mean much
Racial IQ gap is the only reason why there is racial inequality in the first place. It means more than any sociological just so story or oppression narrative you heard

> and the differences aren't significant and can basically he explained by the societal differences
1 SD is significant and no, they can not. Controlling for SES narrow B-W IQ gap only by few points.

>>12402662
Blacks have good nutrition, funding of black schools increased massively over the last century. Why is there no change in their IQ?

>>12402995
> This shows that environmental factors are significantly stronger than genetic ones.
Nope. Heritability of IQ in adulthood is 0.8. Besides, Flynn Effect has nothing to with racial IQ gap. Flynn himself acknowledged this.
It's the same as saying that women will be one day as tall as men because the average height of population was increasing over time.

>By this reasoning you could call parents' income a good psychometric.
No you could not. Parental SES is nowhere near as good predictor of life outcomes as IQ is.

>>12403186
>Heritability
Goes out the window in unstable socioeconomic conditions. If you dispute that american socioeconomic conditions for minorities are unstable, you have to read some history.

>>12403209
In what way are they unstable? And how would that make heritability estimates invalid?

>>12403213
>In what way are they unstable
The laws around what you're allowed to shove up a minority's ass are constantly changing lmao
>And how would that make heritability estimates invalid?
By definition. Heritability is exclusively defined for individuals within the same population.

>>12403231
>The laws around what you're allowed to shove up a minority's ass are constantly changing lmao
Can you be more specific?

>By definition. Heritability is exclusively defined for individuals within the same population.
Yes but blacks have the same heritability of IQ as whites so that's not an issues here.

>>12403239
>Can you be more specific?
Read any book about the history of race in the US lmao this is grade school shit you're pretending to be ignorant about.

>Yes but blacks have the same heritability of IQ as whites so that's not an issues here.
Large changes in environmental conditions change heritable factors by a lot. This is routinely observed.

>>12403291
>Large changes in environmental conditions change heritable factors by a lot. This is routinely observed.
>the environment changes your DNA

>>12403297
>He keeps failing to understand heritability while having it pointed out that heritability isn't what he thinks it is

>>12403291
>Read any book about the history of race in the US lmao this is grade school shit you're pretending to be ignorant about.
You mean segregation or slavery? Is this what you had in mind? What does that have to do with heritability?

>Large changes in environmental conditions change heritable factors by a lot.
Heritability of IQ hasn't changes so probably not.

>>12403320
You keep going in circles anon, the measured heritability doesn't have to change for large jumps in a population's IQ to occur when outside forces are influencing it. You are using the argument to "prove" that the argument is right. Totally circular logic.

>>12403600
>the measured heritability doesn't have to change for large jumps in a population's IQ to occur when outside forces are influencing it.
But there were no jumps in black IQ. What you are describing is entirely theoretical.

>>12403650
Except there was lol, the flynn effect is strongest in black populations.

>>12403717
yeah... no

>>12400383
Just be a grown adult and let it go anon. Are you right? Yeah. Is being right going to do anything but make you friendless? No.

>>12402775
>logic and science are just a narrative
Wew lad. I cant imagine what life must be like when you are this fucking retarded. I guess your feels are the proper method to divine truth? Fucking off yourself my retarded friend.

>>12403209
I am lol'ing at the "socio economic" tard(s) in this thread when the OP image and study has already conclusively refuted it.
>pretending something doesn't exist makes it go away
leftards in a nutshell. This is why communists always starve to death. Ideology wont feed you baby bubba, in fact it will kill you.

>>12400436
The average person gives zero fucks about science. They only care about what is parroted to them from celebs or news.

>>12403103
>The lefty dodged this one
Lmao