/sci/ - Science & Math

if only you knew how bad things really are

>everyday tasks
I've literally never done any of that.

>>12376781
>almost 50% of the population, according to the courts, don’t have rights as citizens
Why do they get to vote?

>>12376811
>never look at total bank deposit
>never check when your driver's license expires
>never locate an intersection on a street map
>never compare credit cards
I would call you a NEET, but a NEET would have to calculate SSI benefits. Are you a mountain hermit?

>>12376824
More or less.

>>12376781
I read the article, wow didn't know that iodine was that important to prevent low IQ at the fetal stage
here it is for who wants to read it btw
https://www.centroeinaudi.it/images/stories/bdl_online/196online_savulescu.pdf

wait is this shit true?
there's that many people in the US using modafinil in academia?

>>12376781
>22% can't locate an intersection on a street map
americans...explain yourselves

>>12376817
The republicans legislate that the 50% get a vote, otherwise repubs would never win another election

>>12376899
>voting for either hyper-industrial capitalist controlled party

>>12376781
These numbers confirm my personal bias and I like it. Also, I choose to believe that the article is trivial in justifying these biases in light of these perfectly correct and impossible to incorrectly calculate statistics.

>>12376873
So are you saying if we start putting iodine in Somalias water supply they'll stop being collectively retarded in a single generation?

>>12376912
>implying im american
>implying i dont vote third party
cope

>>12377051
not that anon
IF, and thats a big IF, somalias average IQ is low due to iodine deficiency, then fixing iodine deficiency will lead to a higher average.

Now, do YOU think that somalias average IQ is partly or entirely reduced due to iodine deficiency?

Now you have your answer, bud

>>12376781
This has to be fake, probably they set up some trick question in the tasks instead of normal ones?

>>12377296
>Can't deal with fact that great majority of people are dumb

>>12377306
Common folks aren't as dumb as you'd like to believe, take a breather from your ivory tower and see the real world sometimes

>>12377320
No, I do know common folks and the make alot of dumb decisions, dont' get me wrong, some narrow stuff common folks are pretty good, but overall they tend to make dumb decisions alot.

>>12377320
they literally are though. you can empathize and connect with other people on a human level but when math or basic knowledge comes up you'd be surprised to find out that even having some college puts you miles ahead of the average person. A bit over the majority (66%) have some college. Only 45 percent of the US population has a college degree at all. Think about that, then think about how braindead a lot of the general population of college seemed. That's a narrowed down majority of people.

>>12377320
Clearly they are, and you are one of them, because a quick search for NALS brings up the website for the National Center for Education Statistics, which has the test questions for the assessments from 1985, 1992 and 2003.
https://nces.ed.gov/naal/sample.asp

>>12376894
good for them. access to modafinil should be a human right. it's luddites who are denying us access.

>>12376896
It should be easy, just look for the star that shows "you are here".

>>12376899
Is today opposite day?

>>12377320
You're wrong, the average person is an idiot and smartlets aren't much better. The reality is that intelligence is overrated and doesn't matter as much as you people think. Frankly, in most cases being intelligent is a net loss for quality of life

>>12377346
College degree doesn't mean shit, I took a year of college before dropping out due to mental problems, and the math course was easier than the shit I did in high school. There was a class teaching web design and I almost fell asleep from boredom. Modern college outside of stem shit just looks like a grift to me; if you can write an essay you can pass a non-stem and writing an essay doesn't require intelligence beyond verbal communication.

>>12377296
Depends on how the test was administered. Academics can be blind to factors which skew results.

>>12377510
>Okay, I will do your test.
>What the fuck are these dumb assed questions?
>I feel insulted
>Am I getting paid for this shit? No.
>Put down any answer or none = I am out of here.

>>12377706
https://nces.ed.gov/naal/pdf/2007464.pdf
Try reading sometime.
>Household interviews took place in respondents’ homes; prison interviews generally took place in a classroom or library in the prison.
>The entire survey will take approximately 90 minutes to complete, and you will be paid $30 for your participation.

>>12377735
>Okay, I will do your test.
>What the fuck are these dumb assed questions?
>I feel insulted
>Am I getting paid for this shit? Yes.
>Put down any answer or none = I am out of here.

>>12377797
>no one other than me has ever considered response bias

>>12376781
Wait a second, being able to calculate the cost of adding carpet to a room is almost good enough for Mensa membership?

>>12377568
>modafinil
does this actually work for you? It does absolutely nothing for me.

Only things ive found work
>nicotine gum (literal IQ booster, massive amounts of proof for this, look it up)
>low dose adderall

>>12377856
I've used it a few times to learn for exams and it did wonders for retention, it's baffling that off label use is criminalized just because there are long term risks. It's a drug that can turn dysfunctional wrecks into productive members of society. How is that not win-win for everyone? Why are ''''''ethics committees'''' so against performance enhancing drugs?

>>12377803
>yes I considered response bias!
So how did you "consider" response bias exactly?
>You have to take my word for it!

>>12377607
EBIC RESPONSE DAWG
I too browse le epoic r/thedonald XD

>>12377909
https://nces.ed.gov/naal/pdf/2007464.pdf
Once again, try doing some reading. Sections 3 through 6.
The assessments were conducted by interviewers in person. It is incredibly easy to recognize whether someone is putting down random answers.

>>12377933
Which party believes people too stupid to be able to get a photo id should vote?

>>12376899
what is the average IQ of an African-American?
for which party do 90%+ of African-Americans vote?

>>12378138
Yeah, but what about Karens and soccer moms? They're all Republicans.

>>12378503
And they are white
That's all you need to know about intelligence

>>12376781
I would feel retarded for using a calculator.

>>12377320
Have you ever worked in a restaurant or warehouse or anything like that? The "half of people are retarded" meme is definitely true

>>12378620
It's OK. I'm retarded too so it feels pretty comfy.

>>12377856
>nicotine gum
https://nootropicsexpert.com/nicotine/#nicotine-boosts-iq

This is some fascinating shit

>>12379583
That's fucking weird bro.
Maybe I should give up ADHD meds and chew some nicorette instead.

>>12376781
>correlates with an IQ of level 96^3

who the fuck has an IQ that high?

>>12379583
>nootropics
Wow, haven't seen that word since Fruitopia and Stereo MCs were popular. Any advancements since then worth noting?

>>12379795
Probably means look at footnote three for context.

>>12379801
I have no idea, first time I've even heard the word. They cite some actual papers though, so that's something.

>>12376781
>I'm in the 97th percentile of the population
>For knowing that the cost to carpet a room is cost/area * area
I want to be aliven't

>>12380051
That's impossible, anon. It can't be THAT bad.

>>12376781
>this is the carpet question
I thought maybe the reason so many people couldn't answer it was maybe the room was a complex shape, but it's literally a rectangle.

>>12380105
>room given in square feet
>price given in square yards (unit nobody who sells carpet would use)

eh, I could understand if you're not observant how you might fuck that up. That doesn't necessarily mean you're dumb

>>12377888
>there are long term risks.
Such as?

>>12380179
memory loss

>>12380126
Checked Home Depot's website. They list carpet prices in both sq ft and sq yd. Square yard was more common pre-2000 and still is the standard for wholesale.

>>12380126
Bump. Was gonna point that out. It's not a hard problem, but converting units? Especially in imperial?

I think people are just lazy. Unless I had to, I'd be like "fuck that."

>>12376781
An IQ of 96 cubed? Holy shit..

This just reinforces the fact that humanity's station ultimately is because of a handful of great men, and a percentage of sufficiently competent people, dragging society forward through the ages.

The common man exists only to support the infrastructure needed to support the common man, with the tiniest sliver skimmed off for useful work by his betters.

>>12380105
It says 17% answered correctly, so why does OP say 3?

>>12380105
>>12380126
>>12380214
Did anyone here know there are 9 square feet in a square yard? I didn't.

>>12380105
>>12380915
no, i have no idea how to solve it since i dont know what a square yard is

>>12380913
OP is probably that question AND the credit card one. 17% squared comes out to about 3%.

>>12380105
$113.88
am I in mensa yet

>>12379583
>all participants were smokers
>they were told not to smoke before the test
>10 samples

Huh... So you guys are also retarded...

>>12376781
You know how you can write programs to do some pretty wild stuff using only a small amount of storage and operations, and how you don't really need to know what you're doing to just copy the stuff other people are writing?

>>12377051
I think iodine can't change genetics anon... maybe it can boost 10-15 IQ points but not more.
If an african has an IQ of 60 and you boost it to 75 it's like putting your old pentium 1 on overclock while cooling it with liquid nitrogen

>>12381061
Not gonna do the math here but increasing the standard deviation of a population would give you a history-changing number of additional geniuses

>>12380973
I second this, they literally did not smoke for 2 hours before the experiment lol.
Now try with non smoking people.

>>12381073
>would give you a history-changing number of additional geniuses
you start seeing geniuses above an IQ of 130... that's pretty rare in Africa where the middle of the bell curve is 60-70. Even with iodine at 75-80 you would have a micro amount of genius outliers.

>>12381073
by the way there is no proof at all that most africans are iodine deficient... iodine can be found in natural food, particularly fish, beans, milk and meat just in smaller amounts. The boost would definitely not be a solid 15 but more a 6-7 I think.

>>12381087
and bananas

>>12380945
Mensa takes the top 2% but we only know that you're in the top 3%. You have a 2/3 chance to get in, so the real question is, do you switch doors when Monty Hall offers?

>>12380105
I can't believe this is possible. 17%? You multiply 9 and 12, divide by 9 (could just ignore both 9s), and multiply by 9.49. That's third or fourth grade level. How did only 17% of people get it

If you find this surprising you are the 97%

>>12381078
110-120 is all you really need for competence

>>12376894
I unironically take it for narcolepsy and can confirm cognitive benefits.

>>12381885
lol

>>12377320
I'm beginning to question that since covid hit here, and coming from a immunology background dealing with the contradictions from these folks.

>>12380105
{[(9/3)*(12/3)]*9.49]*.59=67.1892

The answer is $67.19

>>12380105
[(9/3)*(12/3)]*9.49=113.88

>>12382053
I would guess a substantial amount of test subjects made that mistake.

>>12381943
Go to Wal-Mart, walk around looking at people and listen to things they're saying to each other. Don't look at the products or shop. Just pay attention to the people shopping there. Then you'll understand. If not, go to a dollar store in the blue collar part of town or to the ghetto and repeat the experiment.

>>12376781
the global average IQ is around 83
83 is the minimum cut off to be useful to the US military
half the world is too dumb to be a soldier...

>>12381965
~106 is rougly the minimum for a technical degree

>>12382247
>half of the world population is genetically african
well the mistery is solved...

>>12382247
>half of the world population is genetically either african or arab or low caste poo
well the mistery is solved it seems

>>12376781
99% of the population. I consider anyone with an iq lower than 200 retarded.

>>12382247
>>12382428
t. didn't real the article
That article is about the US and NALS level 2 correlates with an IQ of 96

>>12382247
>>12382363
t. didn't real the article
That article is about the US and NALS level 2 correlates with an IQ of 96

All of these questions use math you are supposed to teach to elementary school kids, and even less complex than the stuff I need to calculate knitting a sweater. What the fuck.

>>12377909
>>12377797
>>12377706
so this is the power of brainlet cope
holy shit