/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12360281
If you are surrounded by dumb ass retarded design software dev cs niggers it doesnt mean that all cs faggots are gay with math. CS requires a lot of heavy math on higher levels and im pretty sure that every cs tranny gorilla at least know calculus and linear algebra

>>12360281
>[math]\int 0 dx = C[/math]
>[math]\frac{0}{0} = C[/math]
>just solve for C
yet (((somehow))), 0/0 is meaningless and undefined

>>12360299
It's a very hard task to find CS students that are good with math.

>he needs to stamp collect math

you learned everything wrong and ngmi, t. cs chad

>>12360281
Typically you forget what you're not using on a regular basis. Most of the higher math requirements are just a clusterfuck of abstract bullshit that isn't relevant in the real world. CS majors are too busy earning money and getting head from your mom to be concerned with higher mathematics.

>>12360310
0/0 is not meaningless, it's just that it's not unique. Any number satisfies 0*a = 0, therefore 0/0 is not a distinct element in a ring.

>>12360281
Could've at least picked something more interesting than basic Calculus that every CS student ever has to pass to get a degree

I'm pretty sure you need basic high school math to get into uni, even if you're a CS student.

>>12360281
just an array of numbers

>>12360378
>therefore 0/0 is not a distinct element in a ring.
Explain yourself.

>>12360423
lrn2read

>>12360431
I did read it you mong.

[math]
y'' - 4y = 0 \\
y|_{t=0} = 1 \\
y|_{t=1} = e^2
[/math]

>we're gonna need finite differences here

>>12360423
I already did. Given a ring [math] R [/math], for any [math] a \in R [/math] [math] a*0 = 0 [/math] and therefore (and this is an abuse of notation) [math] 0/0 = a [/math].

>>12360378
0/0 is meaningless because you're asserting that you can divide by zero. You can never divide by zero, it has no multiplicative inverse. I don't care what the numerator is.

Rings? Uniqueness? Come on, man.

>>12360459
That's why in >>12360446 I said 0/0 is an abuse of notation.

>>12360446
Understood now, thank you. I have literally never heard of algebraic rings.

I have worked with Hilbert space though.

>>12360482
a fellow physicist, huh?

>>12360488
Physical chemist. Honestly, I consider myself more a physicist than chemist at this point.

>>12360347
Kek

>>12360281
nice /g/ poster
>>12360321
It's not that hard - they're just relatively few among everyone who does CS

You'll find all sorts of mathematical backgrounds in upper div and graduate CS - schools just suppress this in their advertising statements to attract codemonkeys who just want to take the development oriented courses that don't teach them anything. They *should* push them out, but also it's free money. Meanwhile, only the good students will care about pic related, which is from a second semester on algorithms focused on asymptotics of recurrences using some complex analysis

>>12360482
Do you know what a group is? A ring is just an algebraic structure (R, +, *) where (R, +) is an abelian group, * is associative and + is distributive over */

>>12360445
Why the fuck do characteristic equations work. Seems like magic that solving an associated polynomial gives a relationships between differentials of a function

>>12360632
>Why the fuck do characteristic equations work.
if you know how to differentiate exponentials it should be kind of obvious
each derivative adds a power to the constant, factor out the exponential and ignore it so know we just have a polynomial in the constants

>>12360571
I do, refreshing on this has been very helpful. Thank you.

>>12360310
0/0 just means the there is a hole in the function rather than 1/0 which would mean theres an asymptote. A hole is undefined but If you're approaching it with a limit you can can assume the hole is whatever the functions value would be.

>>12360281
my classmates constantly complain about discrete math
t. cs / math double major

I studied cs first. Started programming for more complex problems, released my basic linear algebra, discrete math and basic calc wasn't enough anymore. Self study would simply take too long and I wouldn't have a degree to show for my hard work.
Now back studying math and not regretting it.
My prior knowledge is really helping. Programming general solutions to a topic rather than only solving it on paper is really useful. I'm the only one that uses my own functions for my math study.

I don't need mathematics to succeed, however, I hate feeling like I have a chip on my shoulder because I didn't do cs at an elite university where they do it properly.

>>12360281
>calc 2, which is required, kills the computer science student
wat
introductory integrals and series convergence make sense, and you see them mundanely in generating functions and upper bounds. It is Turing Degrees and logic that kills the computer science student, but to be fair, this slays most students anyway ;^).

>>12360329
>he runs an entire computation for every problem he comes across when he could just store the answer in memory and retrieve it in O(1) time
Never gonna make it.

>>12360482
>I have literally never heard of algebraic rings.
what the fuck

>>12360281
unless you have passion for pure math, cs is just more fun.
For example even if you come up with some new equation or proof, it is all theoretical work, at best you will get some other equation or a new number, with a computer and programming tools those equations can be used to build tools and can do all sort of cool things

>>12362993
lmao you don't know anything about research in either theory CS or math if all math comes down to you is "a new equation or number," and especially so if you don't know that there's a massive intersection between theoretical computer science results and math results.

>>12362669
my reaction

>>12362150
I get that - personally I'd just say double major if you can, and if not, just be sure to get lots of side projects

>>12360281
>why do we have subjects that is not mathematics reeeee
fuck off retard

>>12364119
I'm double majoring.
Luckily for me I can use the cs units I've already done to skip a few courses (7/16).

>>12360281
>High school math
>kills the computer science student