/sci/ - Science & Math

AWAKEN MY MASTER

>>12335909
SLS IS AMERICAS ROCKET

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327070929868914689
>We lost vehicle pneumatics. Reason unknown at present. Liquid oxygen header tank pressure is rising. Hopefully triggers burst disk to relieve pressure, otherwise it’s going to pop the cork.

>>12335909
>lost vehicle pneumatics
>tank pressure rising
>hoping burst disk in lox header relieves pressure if triggered
>otherwise boom
SPACEX IS FINISHED

>We lost vehicle pneumatics. Reason unknown at present. Liquid oxygen header tank pressure is rising. Hopefully triggers burst disk to relieve pressure, otherwise it’s going to pop the cork.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327070929868914689

>>12335921
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF RudX AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>12335921
SHES GONNA BLOW

>>12335782
Called it.

>>12335924

>>12335921
THE PATH TO FREEDOM IS PAVED WITH BRAVE SNS
SALUTE HER AS SHE GOES

>>12335927
Almost hope she does, would be fun to see it explode

>>12335921
>>12335924
HOLY FUCK WHAT

At least things are going well in Florida. Starlink is going strong too from what I've been reading.

rip flop +1 month delay

>>12335936
SN9 is behind this

>>12335936
More like +3

>>12335937
and how many raptors?

RAPTORS EATING HYDROPHILIC LINES

>sure bro, you can burn all the methane you want in my backyard

STATIC FIRE AGAIN ELON USE UP MORE FUEL SAVE HEEEEERRRRRRRRRR

GIVE SN8 ALL YOUR ENERGY SHE’S TAKEN QUITE A WALLOP

>>12335921
>Non chalantly saying "we hope the failsafe will trigger lmao"

>>12335945
it's 50/50 it works or it doesn't
>>12335940
all the way up to SN69

>"this is why we test" coping on NSF

THIS IS WHY WE TEST

THE COPE ON NSF IS PALPABLE
GOOD LUCK SPACEX STANS, YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT

Well, at least it's only the header tank and not the main ox tank

SN8 just blew up, fuck

>What were the sparks produced during static fire? Concrete exploding?

>Elon: Maybe melted an engine preburner or fuel hot gas manifold. Whatever it is caused pneumatics loss. We need to design out this problem.

>Maybe melted an engine preburner

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327073241693765633
>Maybe melted an engine preburner or fuel hot gas manifold.
>Whatever it is caused pneumatics loss.
>We need to design out this problem.

I hope it doesn't pop. I want to see at least one system on the ship work out well for once.

UH OHHHHHH LOOKS LIKE RAPTOR ATE ITSELF AGAIN LMFAAAOOOO

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327073241693765633
>Maybe melted an engine preburner or fuel hot gas manifold. Whatever it is caused pneumatics loss. We need to design out this problem.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>12335915
OH FUCK
HE'S RISING
HIS DESCENDANTS HAVE FAILED HIM ONE LAST TIME

WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE THE BURST DISK IF IT'S TRIGGERED?
WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE THE BURST DISK IF IT'S TRIGGERED?

>>12335690
FUCKFUCKFUCK WHY DOES MY INTUITION HAVE TO BE SO ON POINT SHIT

>>12335967
LMAO imagine if elon sent a tweet like that during Crew-1 fueling

>>12335962
>>12335961
>manifold melted
Why was it not made of steel?

>>12335921
Well that's way better than shitting molten turbopump.

>>12335962
>We need to design out this problem.
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD

>>12335969
It's a last minute failsafe that is gonna dump extremely high pressure LOX if it works, so yeah I'm guessing we'll see something.

>>12335973
it CAN melt steel beams anon

>>12335972
>GET THE CREW OUT
>WE CANT IT MELTED THE DOORS SHUT

>Heh heh at least it happened during testing and not on Mars!

I take back everything I said about SLS taking too long to do its static fire. This is what happens when you rush. May Shelby forgive us all.

I told you guys they should have made a tiny starship for aerodynamic testing. Now they have a pile of twisted metal.

>>12335982
This is now an SLS thread please clap

>Anons dooming out over SN8
Guess how I knew you weren't around during the first 4 test articles.

>>12335986
their approach is genius after all. You don't fail if you never do anything.

>>12335982
Yeah you're right, you should definitely put off all testing and put humans on your first or second flight so you can experience this stuff for the first time while it's on the way to orbit

>>12335909
Liquid oxygen tank pressure is fine, no good, no terrible, launch it.

>>12335962
Yesterday I said SN8 was busted, none of you believed me

just got around to rewatching, there is actual molten chunks spilling out of SN8 fucking christ ahahahah

>>12335990
Half are memeing half are genuinely retarded. I'm excited for an explosion to filter the fairweather normies and renew the soil with the blood of martyrs

SpaceX will obviously fix the issue, post kino mars themed toys and sheeeit

>>12335997
>>12335998
You are clearly delusional.

>>12335990
Nah it's like 90% shitposting, 10% serious because I do want a 15km ASAP. Even a delay of 6 months would still be fast as fuck all things considered. It's just annoying because a hop could have technically have happened by now assuming everything went right since they mated the nosecone

>>12335998
It's either the lost hydraulic fluid or melty preburner stuff

Seems like they need to focus more on raptor development. Not sure how they can be on 50 or more with 600 minutes of burn with it not being a stable design.

>>12335990
Failures are good Anon, they makes stronger starships, and weed out the weak poorly built ones with cool RUDs

>>12336006
>>12335980

>nosecone blows
>shrapnel kills someone
2020 babyyyy

I KNOW, I KNOW I'VE LET YOU DOWN

I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF

>>12336001
Can methane melt graphite?

>>12336005
Has the design changed? SN42 looks different, but might just be another angle.

>>12335983
ZUBRIN WAS RIGHT WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

I guarantee you what happened is that their lack of a flame trench bit them in the ass and shit under the skirt got shredded

NOSECONE VENTING?

>>12336005
I don't think it's a matter of focus, it's not like they pull off the genius eggheads at the engine division to weld watertanks instead. Mostly just ambitious engine design and probably the water tower's fucky fuel lines

>>12336019
OH NO NO NO
WE GOT TOO COCKY NO-TRENCHBROS

>>12336010
I THOUGHT THAT I COULD LIVE FOR NO ONE ELSE

>>12336015
Elon's said in the past that each raptor is basically different at this point, they think that by SN50 they should have it.

>>12336025
at this rate? i doubt it hahaha

>>12336031
>Elon is gonna have to buy methane engines from Bezos
Turns out space is harder than he thought.

Time to add another oopsie to the static fire spreadsheet kek

Vent out the top of the nose. no explosion tonight

BURST DISK WORKED THANK FUCK

>>12336019
Yeah I believe this too. Engines produce a metric fuckload of thrust, even at low power. Starship sits right above the ground and I have no doubt it vaporized/melted shit and threw it back up into the skirt

>>12336036
IM BUUUUUUUUUURRRSTTTTIIIING

>>12336032
shoulda been hydrolox

Q2 2021 here we go here we go HERE WE GO

Burst disc test: SUCCESS

Two weeks of repairs LFG

>>12336024
BUT NOW, THROUGH ALL THE HURT AND PAIN

IT'S TIME FOR ME TO RESPECT

THE ONES YOU LOVE MEAN MORE THAN ANYTHING

Bros...this is why we test. I'm not coping, before you say anything rude to me

BASED

>>12336054
They memed him, but he was right

BUT I WAS TOLD THAT RAPTORS WERE READY TO GO AND WE'LL BE FLYING HUNDREDS OF TIMES A YEAR BY 2023

I WATCHED TIM'S VIDEO AND HE SAID SO

THAAAAAAR SHE BLOOOOOOOOWS

THIS IS AN EARLY PROTYPE

THEY KNEW THERE WOULD BE PROBLEMS

THEY EXPECTED TO FIND PROBLEMS

THE REASON THEY TEST IS SO THAT THEY CAN FIND THOSE PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY ARE FLYING OPERATIONALLY

>>12336065
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CREW DRAGON UH- NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! THIS IS A NON-OPERATIONAL VEHICLE. FALCON 9 IS A FLIGHT PROVEN VEHICLE

>>12336065
>>12336067
All of these statements are literally unironically correct and no argument exists to the contrary

NSF sound like an xbox 360 party but instead of COD they're playing integration bee online

>>12336051

>>12336067
>FALCON 9 IS A FLIGHT PROVEN VEHICLE
Yes

>>12336070
lmao I know I'm just enjoying the shitposting considering the circumstances and the overt cope going on at NSF

>>12336070
>>12336074
mmmmmMM TASTY cope! lolololol

>>12335983

>>12336000
holy shit, how nostalgic

>>12335991
Being an SLS engineer must be comfy.

recap
>an extra short static fire (less than 3 sec)
>sparks shootin out radially
>molten drippin/spillin from raptor

Heh, maybe Starship's development plan isn't working out. Mk1 was supposed to do the 20km hop. 10 test vehicles later they still haven't crossed 150m.

>>12336105
Your opinion is bad you are a shill shill shill shill SHILL you hate spacex and musk I hate you i hate what you say you are wrong

The boys are back!

>>12336000
checked

What if sn8 and 9 and both on pads and sn8 does a hop but fails and crashes into sn9!?!

>Maybe melted an engine preburner or fuel hot gas manifold. Whatever it is caused pneumatics loss. We need to design out this problem.

OH NO NO NO

>>12336117
Engineer : maybe we should add redundancies?
Elon : Best part is no part
....

>>12336000
I loved this series of sets

>>12336111
checked

>>12336121
He does like removing parts he thinks are not necessary

>>12336117
>We need to design out this problem
What did he mean by this, /sfg/? Is it a known issue? Has Raptor been fucked all along? Was the shill bro right?? The horror...

>>12335924
Nature and fate has turned on the muskrat.

>>12335935
shit that's a lot of teslas

>https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1745&context=smallsat
cooool

>>12336121
Elon: best part is no part.
Engineer: maybe we should add redundancies
>Redundancies cause fire

Brainlets on Suicide watch

>>12336151
A little ambitious

>>12336151
>Slav space mommy

>>12336125
Imagine if Elon basically causes this stuff to happen IRL. I'd be awestruck.

This reminds me of early hopper static fires, with the LOUD honks and the bursting in flames. I think raptor is hardier than we give credit, but there are def some serious issues running engine rich. same thing happened with hopper

>>12336160
Ah nvm she divorced a slav

>a problem occurs in iterative testing
>omg SpaceX BTFO musk dead space banned

Kys

>>12336164
>Gwynne Rowley

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327090548478414850
>Burst disk worked, so vehicle appears to be ok. We’ll have to swap out at least one of the engines.
Apologize

new tweet

>>12336166
N1 rocket also tried iterative testing. Doesn't mean it will succeed.

>>12336169
>the absolute state of Raptor development

>>12336171
not really. By design its engines couldn't be fired once beforehand. They were the epitome of expendable

>>12336173
Could say the same about raptor haha.
Reusable booster, expendable engines.

>>12336176
it's like the opposite of the SMART program

At this rate 2030 may be too optimistic.

>>12336166
There is a problem like every test.

>>12336183
>implying SLS will fly at all

>>12336183
I think a conservative 2030 is fine. Commercial crew took a long time too but it eventually panned out within 10 years. That's when SpaceX was still small, poor, and not well experienced.

>>12336193
Commercial crew was just getting back what worked decades ago. Starship is completely different. It may be too ambitious after all.

NM imposing travel restrictions or a state wide shutdown Soon™ (like tomorrow) and VGs next flight is being delayed because of it.

>>12336199
>too ambitious
stop taking estrogen

>>12336200
I hate the whole "listening to science" BS.
Listen to the economics!

>>12336203
I agree, I don't think anyone else at SPA wants to shutdown. We just found out today.

>>12336167
Ye i'm dumb Gwynne is a very Anglo name.

This is a plan for india's first space station
What do you think?

>>12336207
DESIGNATED SHITTING MODULES

>>12336207
>kerbal 6-way docking adaptor
>a fucking propane tank
Based

>>12336207
That's too ambitious for them. They haven't even gotten a man into space and they are talking about a multiple module station?

>>12336207
is that yellow thing a septic tank?

>>12336207
Looks cool. I hope they actually do it.

>>12336228
I have to wonder if making a modular space station is any harder than just a single piece one like the chinese did.
If you can dock your capsule to the station, shouldn't you also be able to dock sections onto adapters?

>>12336229
>>12336217
>shitting modules reentering the atmosphere

>>12336207
>Meanwhile

>>12336235
>skidmarks in the sky

India and China will perform their own Apollo-Soyuz and it will go terribly wrong because of the Indian module. You heard it first here folks feel free to screenshot for future use

https://www.ariane.group/en/news/themis-reaches-for-the-sky/

Where were you when ariane made grasshopper?
It's methalox too

>>12336234
The single module stations were test articles to prepare for a larger station. The Indians want to skip steps. It's good if they can pull it off, but disastrous if they can't.

>>12336249
>Chinese steal the Indian capsule only to die of shit poisoning

>>12336250
it has lots of ... segments?

>>12336250
>>12336261
>a whole ass webpage for a fuel tank

>>12336261
Each one made in a different EU country

Spyrius was best space themed set.

>>12336269
And shipped very sloowly and inconveniently by land to the assembly plant. Like Beluga XL.

>>12336207
POO in the LEO

>>12336290


HAHAHAHAHA HE SAID THE THANG AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

So week or two delay?

>>12336294
lol been saying that every week since end of august

>>12336250
Cool, funny, and sad all at once.

>>12336261
it kinda looks like starship

>>12336302
it's going to be funny if everyone start copying the boomer rocket design

Another engine swap? SpaceX stans on suicide watch

>>12336252
>The Indians want to skip steps. It's good if they can pull it off, but disastrous if they can't.
Oh God, this explains SO MUCH about the tech industry and why Bezos is being autistically careful with New Glenn.

This is yutu-2
Say something nice about him

>>12336312
i keep saying raptor reusability is starship's achilles heel and /sfg/ keeps telling me FFSC has to work because estronaut said so

>>12336338
this one killed itself in two seconds flat. maybe they fired the same raptor that got fucked the other night? only bad things seem to happen when raptors burp

there was a comment saying elon pushed them to do static fire even though it wasn't ready and they were only going to do wdr, but the comment got shoah'd. anyone know if this guy was just talking out of his ass?

>>12336343
If I had to guess they couldn't find anything wrong with the engine after the first burn but they were still wondering so they decided to just try it again.

>>12336349
Out of his ass

>>12336352
That's exactly what happened with rapror SN2 on Starhopper. Two static fires, two big burps, one swapped engine.

For SN8, we had a burp, swap, burp+sparks, burp+sparks+molten innards, swap

>>12336336
No

Hey guys, why is Berger a big fucking liar?

>>12336366
Berg

>>12336366
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1327010635176177665?s=19
>I wrote about @AstroVicGlover, how he will become the first Black astronaut to live on the International Space Station, and why he doesn't want to talk about it.
Glover doesn't want to be a woke symbol, yet Berger writes this slop anyway. What a piece of shit

>>12336367
((()))

>>12336367
>>12336379
Those damn hill dwelling folk!

>>12336369
He's trying to generate interest in space maybe?
Not the best way of doing it desu.
Sure you'll get your 15 minutes of YASS KING woke points but that audience will just move on to the next thing to be offended or celebrated.
Plus it seems the extremely intelligent astronaut doesn't want his skin color to be the basis of what he is known for.

>>12336000
checked

>Musk got Covid-19
RIP Mars dream

OY VEY ELON WHAT ARE YOU DOING
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327125840040169472

>>12336412
he'll be fine

Braptor had diarrhea
Elon may have covid
Jews are at it again

>>12336412
Lol how ironic, the fraud pandemic takes down fraud elon musk. Seething SpaceX stans will soon become sobbing BankruptX copers. sad but true. good thing Blue Origin has more competant management at the helm

>>12336421
Fucking love Steve. Let's get him out onto a red planet. Nice.

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>12336414
where are his handlers? why do they let him talk such nonsense

>>12336412
there was a jew york times story over the summer where he said he thought he already had it.

Wow, lot's of antisemitism in this thread. Stay classy /sfg/

>>12336421

>>12336412
Guess he won't be handshaking the astronauts this weekend.

>>12336448
crew-1 is fucking cancelled because musk already touched the 'stronauts

>Hullo put out a video about election results
I can't bring myself to click it. How much YAAS QUEEN is there going to be?

ELON THIS TWEET IS ILLEGAL ANTI-SEMITIC HATE SPEECH, DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.

>>12335973
Anyone who said methalox can't melt steel that quickly is retarded, anon.

>>12336463
it's mostly cope

>>12336390
>>12336369

I fucking hate identity politics.

>>12336463
fawning over garver and the space experts team biden whipped up

>>12336252
You're implying they won't use the first station module as its own, smaller station to practice with before building out the rest of the modules?

>>12336463
Worth remembering he's a part of the silicon valley hive trying to program you with the little blue exclamation points.

>>12335577
If it's any consolation- many industries already very closely study the ways horses' assholes function the way they do for designing efficient self lubricating and/or cleaning machines, so it's only a marginal step down from the industry standard.
>>12335990
When will we get daily SS RUDs from mega-scale testing operations? I want to have to annex Tamaulipas just to pave it all over with a SpaceX hyperfactory.
>>12336466
>Nick's HW3 Adventures//Blac...
Oh no.

>>12336488
>If it's any consolation- many industries already very closely study the ways horses' assholes function the way they do for designing efficient self lubricating and/or cleaning machines, so it's only a marginal step down from the industry standard.

Why are horse buttholes and pussies and cocks so aesthetic anons?

>>12336488
Never realised how huge a Saturn V actually is.
>Imagine Starship

>>12336488
SAY IT WITH ME:
BLACK

>>12336490
Please go back to your dumpster. Also a fun fact just for you: human sized horses would only have an average penis length of just over three inches.
>>12336491
For me I never realized how enormous the VAB is; I guess I just never stopped to consider that it would have to be big enough to fit an upright Saturn V with room to spare since it didn't get stacked like Starship will.
>>12336496
EYED

>>12336491
Starship will be nearly exactly as tall as pic related. She's a big girl.

>>12336490
>Why are horse buttholes and pussies so aesthetic
They are shaped eerily similar to human woman genitals except since they're bigger they tend to have relatively less flappiness to them, ie the beef curtains don't hang low.
>cocks
because you're gay and like big cocks

If you make a magnetoplasma thruster larger diameter and use more propellant, does your Isp/Ve go down or stay the same? Does that depend on the drive? All the current plasma thruster designs are super oldspacey so just making the thing bigger and launching on Starship could work if that scaling pattern holds.

So the stream of stuff pouring out of the bottom of SN8 was probably just hydraulic fluid, right? Either backlit by the huge spotlight, on fire from residual engine heat, or maybe both?
There was significant delay between the static fire and the fluid dump, so I'm betting there was debris kick-up or maybe just vibrations bouncing off the concrete that damaged the hydraulic system enough that it stayed together at idle load but ruptured under the stress of operation when all the valves and whatnot were being operated after the test.

>>12336421
He needs to review some space food. NASA should send him some.

>>12336019
Also in agreement.

>>12336543
"This lettuce grown on the ISS and returned by a Dragon capsule tastes great when dipped in Boeing executives' salty tears!"

>>12336519
Depends on if you also scale up the power supply. The thrust and exhaust velocity depend far more on the input electrical power than they do on the physical size of the thruster. In fact all the size ever really tells you is how much mass flow rate you can have, and therefore how much power you can force through, before your shit starts to melt. That being said, for many plasma electric thrusters you can run them at a certain power level across a range of mass flow values, and adjust your Isp. Less mass flow, equal power input, greater exhaust velocity (but lower thrust overall).

Oh god hullo uploaded a video about the election and it's implications for Artemis. Do I even want to watch it?
>Hullo it's scott manley here... and you know, Artemis might get cancelled or at least set back but THAT"S OKEH! You know, climate science is just as important as geology and we should applaud it.... fly safe!

>>12336563
what a cope that man is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiD8nGD0Q6w
Kino.

>>12336563
Nothing that hasn't been said before. Artemis was never going to happen by 2024 since it didn't get fully funded.

>>12336577
For me, it's thunderbird 2

>>12336586
>Not the sun probe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZbRf-X5XfE
17,000,000 LBf capable rockets when?

>>12336359
>>12336352
>>12336338
i think they'll definitely be able to get raptor reusability down considering the raptors on SN5 and SN6 worked fine and presumably many have worked fine on test stands for full duration tests.

>>12336563
Oh my God it's absolute COPE hahahah

>>12336557
Shifting gears like that is the goal since most hummingbird fart ion drives take over two months to go from LEO to LLO. The lower acceleration would probably be fine for interplanetary.

>>12336543
What would MRE for first martian mission be like?
Steve should give Elon some ideas.

>>12336366
>capitalized B
That's how you tell they're mentally ill

>>12335006
mini arkbird soon

>>12336655
No food, fat astronauts. Body fat is the most efficient and energy dense source by any metric. You can go indefinite periods of time without food until you run out of body fat, so long as you have a miniscule amount of electrolyte salts. This a basic function of the human body. Literally dozens of tonnes of "food" could be saved on your trip out to Mars by just having your colonists be overweight by 20-30kg. I'm not joking that I consider this a genuinely serious and must be implemented idea. It would also weed out useless cunts, if you can't crack ~90-120 days fasting then you do not have the mental fortitude to leave planetary atmosphere behind indefinitely.

>Raptors keep failing

>>12336656
It’s all so tiresome

What happend with the static fire? Just woke up

>>12336694
Raptor shat out it's molten turbopump guts, maybe.

>>12336675
They'll still need food for the rest of the mission.

>>12336714
Steak and egg nutrition bars, cooked and then compressed under a several hundred tonne press. Once the initial colony has been established, everyone will be dining on fresh leaf vegetables and herbs, potatoes, mushrooms, fish, lobster and shrimp. This will be fairly staple as more complex food products are made available.

>>12336714
They'll just eat the weak ones

>>12336736
that sounds delicious desu

>>12335916
>ROCKET
For now, it is a magical cilinder that keeps the shuttle mafia funded.

>>12336738
Martian diet will be fresh and tasty as fuck nigger.

>>12336709
lmao

>>12336250
based French copycats

>>12336250

>>12336736
Sounds pretty cool, but I want to eat some bugs like Timon and Pumba

>>12336269
>>12336283
I for one am proud that my country might have supplied some of the bolts

>>12336366
>>12336369
I made the effort and there's been 6 black men (and women) to ISS before him already

>Robert L. Curbeam
>Joan Higginbotham
>Alvin Drew
>Stephanie Wilson
>Leland D. Melvin
>Robert Satcher

what the fuck is actually wrong with these people?

>>12336838
see
>>12336367

>>12336838
read the headline carefully - its "live" on ISS.
Just like when scott manley said first "non-shuttle" launch from america without all white dudes.
These people twist the words to create new "firsts" for minorities.
Very very cringe, and I'm a minority myself.
Just praise us on our achievements, don't create new ones.

>>12336838
Lügenpresse

>>12336151
>pleasant
That last page sure aged poorly.

>>12336838
Not in the loney bin.

>>12336838
Technically Berger is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Space_Station_expeditions

Scott manlet is shitting in big jim in his latest video.
>"But muh same sex marriage"
And on all the other stuff in the video, why can he be so close to it and be so wrong?

Flight direction for the atlas?

>>12336890
He is in California, what do you expect from sjw cissmale cuck

>>12336838
They didn't include the build and resupply missions. Only the expedition missions.
I know, it's fucking cheap rhetorics.

We got our coping HULLO video, can't wait for estronaut's

>>12336923
>if you arbitrarily choose to exclude all the people who done the particular thing in a particular way, we will have the fist person to do the thing
stunning and brave
racist chuds btfo

>>12336933
It's intentionally done to make it appear as if we're shackling their noble spirits to the soil. Welcome to fucking [Current Year] and why we need to get the fuck off this planet.

>>12336890
Why do people think fags should be able to get married, anyway?

>>12336881
we still have no Balkan-American Astronauts AT ALL
Why are Americans so racist towards their Bulgarian and Greek minorities?

>>12336937
>It's intentionally done to make it appear as if we're shackling their noble spirits to the soil

I mean if black want in the Principality of Zeon, I’m down.

https://youtu.be/y0gRAvY2FPM

>>12336250
>y-you l-like watching t-tanks, right?
>p-please give us attention

>>12336412
Either he has it or he doesn‘t

>>12336972
It’s not particularly dangerous and isn’t unusual either. I’m personally wondering when people are going to admit Coronavirus is endemic and start ignoring it

>>12336928
>made like 15 hours worth of videos on Artemis
>Artemis 1 and following is cancelled 2 months later

What new climate science is NASA even going to do? Doesn't ESA spend most of it's budget on earth science?

>>12336995
>look at this temperature map wow it’s gettin warmer

>>12336995
Monitoring cow braaaps and so on.

>>12337026
>>12337030
Why don't they just leave that to ESA? What use do they see in making the same measurements? I can't imagine they actually want to be 'climate science independent' and not have to rely on ESA for the data

>>12337052
What makes you think politics has anything to do with logic? The development of the SLS and its predecessors should have taught you otherwise.
This is just a "let's kill NASA, but not kill NASA by putting them on ice for the foreseeable future" plan.

>>12337052
>Why don't they just leave that to ESA? What use do they see in making the same measurements?

They’re dumb

>>12335924
can they replace just the raptors or is the whole SN8 fucked?

>>12335945
it triggered correctly apparently

>>12337060
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1327090548478414850

>>12337064
Well at least they sent the burst disk to 15km.

What if Starship turns out to be a failure? What then?

>>12337074
YES... so I guess they will try again in the next days?

>>12337110
SpaceX will develop a new spacecraft that is basically the same but slightly different called Starcraft

>>12337110
It can't be a failure, they will iterate until it works or until Elon ends his money

>>12336928
I don't get what's so bad about it, it wasn't hugely political, and it's not like he lets his views affect his videos.

>>12337115
Try weeks.

>>12337110
We return to Nature under the watchful eyes of our wise leaders.

>>12337110
The booster will no doubt be useful.
The top ship looks like a meme straight out of some 50s comic. The flip maneuver is retarded. Replace this with a more conventional ship and it will be fine.

>>12337166
>muh convention
What convention you loon?

NASA JUST OVERTOOK SPACEX

(at testing big cilinders statically, at least)

Pic related at Stennis

BIGGER THAN ELON'S

>>12336939
Why shouldn't they?

AND LONGER

>>12337179
RS-25s deserved better.

>>12336881
Berger straight up lies to the dude replying to him, saying we've never had black crew members before Glover.

>>12337180
There’s no point. Marriage was invented to legally formalize monogamy between men and women.

Update on SLS status:
>Green tests reaching final stage.
>Wet dress rehearsal and hotfire imminent, expected in 3 to 6 weeks
>Launch in November 2021
>Moon in 2024

Sauce:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54927173

>>12337200
>first stage hydrogen engine
>overcomplicated and overpriced
They deserve their seawater bath, it's the intervening vehicle that's the roadblock

>>12337179
>>12337184
>bigger and longer
nah. SLS block 1 is actually a bit dumpy. Other versions will be more impressive but those will never exist. For whatever reason people tend to always overestimate the size of the shuttle and shuttle derivatives and underestimate everything else.

>>12337208
For better I mean rightful place in museums, at least for the shuttle ones.

>>12336463
>Kathy Lewders
why can't anybody get this right

sn8 too much mexican food! braptor got spicy diarrhea!

>>12337209
I mean longer than SN8.

>>12336536
>So the stream of stuff pouring out of the bottom of SN8 was probably just hydraulic fluid, right?
I thought this at first too, and that the massive hopper floodlight was making it look luminous. But later on some drops that hit the ground actually caused sparks to fly. But why that only happened with a few later on and not with the earlier stream of liquid is beyond me.


>>12336369
>Glover doesn't want to be a woke symbol, yet Berger writes this slop anyway
of course. There's nothing more "woke" than white people using black suffering for their own personal gain. You really think that the corporate "diversity consultants" making 7 figures care about any of this?

>>12337244
Or maybe not, it is just the orange tank and has nothing above it. SN8 is still taller.

>>12336250
>>12336261
>>12336269
Burgers are gonna meme the shit out of this but ESA dominated commercial launches for decades. They know how to make rockets.

This is probably the only real competition for Elon.

>>12337110
Depends what fails. Raptor being a flawed design would set them back for years. Heat tiles are also problematic.

>>12337267
if they discover that the raptor design is flawed they'll have to basically throw away SN1-SN69?

>>12337257
lol no, sn8 is shorter than falcon 9

>>12337262
>begging for billions in funding to get a non-reusable rocket up and running
>approaching parity with SpaceX circa 8 years ago
>terrified of outcompeting their own rockets with reusables and hemorrhaging jobs
>no no it's okay we can rest on the laurels we no longer have

>>12337267
how long was F-1 set back when it had issues?

This is funny https://twitter.com/Dtrford/status/1320820623254425601

>>12336463
>I've heard that Kamala Harris is a bit of a Star Trek fan
>S-so don't worry guys, w-we m-made the right choice she won't fuck NASA over

>>12337273
anon falcon 9 is taller than the part of SLS they're testing
it does beat out starship alone though

I hope China is really aggressive about claiming territory in space. Should make the US more aggressive, too.

NASA Press Event for Crew 1:
https://youtu.be/4WopL06_UqE

>>12337309
Bingo :.
Elon corona
Starship header tank kya hua
First black to live in ISS blah blah
Challenges of pandemic
Then one journalist asking the same question again

>>12337297
biden looooves china. in fact biden was china's election preferrence

>>12337319
>Corona
The dude took 4 of those quick tests, 2 positive, 2 negative. They're not fucking worth what we're paying for them.
Experts here too are saying we've done nothing but waste money on them and that any diagnosis using them has to be backed up with a PCR test as well.

>>12337297
>territory
>space
And this, gentleman, is the problem with fucking apes. They are territorial even when not on land.

We are doomed to be set back to the stone age because eventually some fucking chimp will accidentally drop a nuke from space, and every other country will follow suit with moar nukes.

Should have stayed at the top of the trees and kept throwing bananas at rival chimps.

>>12337319
how did you feel being born a nigger, mr glover? how did it feel the white man is letting you go to space?

>>12337326
return to monke

>>12337325
a false negative is less relevant than a false positive normally isn't it?

>>12337287
What reality would look like if we ran on Havok physics engine.

>>12337331
Here in Norway, they've shown themselves to have about 50% accuracy and that's not the chink tests. That's the US "foolproof" quick tests. They're junk.
It's a coinflip test.

>>12337166
>conventional
Because that's worked so well for 50 years.
Oh wait, it hasn't, we're still stuck on this rock, with only a handful of people at a time groveling in LEO.
You want that, put up your own money, faggot.

>>12337175
OH NOES THEY JUST MOVED ORANGE ROCKET FIFTY FEET SIDEWAYS WITH A CRANE
ELON BTFO ETERNALLY

SPACE CORONA

>Boeing moving from snipers to biowarfare

Somewhere in a trashcan there are used Elon Musk snot swabs. God what I would pay for those

It's actually good that they're back at the drawing board with Raptors. It was obvious that there was some fundamental issue going on during the tests so now they have no choice but to fix it for good.

>>12337328
Seriously that’s how it comes across.
>We are so proud that you are Black!!!! With a capital B!
We are taking glover to Mars so he can escape the clown earth

>>12337372
lol

>>12337361
Do you have a grand plan of cloning his mucus?

Lady astronaut reminds me of captain archer from enterprise, down to the slight lisp

>>12337372
History repeats itelf.

>>12337390
I kinda just wanted to sniff them (or taste if I'm feeling adventurous!), but I'd be willing to sell one to you for a reasonable sum.

>>12337336
lol this is very weird, these lateral flow assay antibody tests are supposed to be very good.
Are pharma industries rushing it to make money?

Crickets from SpaceX stans. I'm waiting for your apology to all the concern troll shills that were telling you to snap back to reality!

>>12337379
glover himself seems pretty based
doesn't want to talk about it to jerk off white guilt
>i haven't actually been to the iss yet
>don't celebrate things that haven't happened
just does his job

>>12337406
I'll pass. I'm asthmatic so I have enough with my own mucus.

>>12337411
It's all about the money. We bought 3 million quick tests from Abbot and Roche and further secured 2 million more. They're more or less worthless.
These are not alibaba companies, but the quality is just the same.

>SpaceX stan

>>12337406
I would clone him and use him as savyy slave to conquer the world or in alternative use gene-therapy to change some of my genes with his ubermensch-turboautist ones

>>12337414
he has three master's degrees and this:
>Glover's call-sign is "Ike", a name given to him by one of his first commanding officers, standing for "I Know Everything".
is pretty based

>>12337419
>stan
Discord tranny or twitter nigger.

>>12337419
>>12337424
>chirp chirp!

>>12337424
Is he trying to be funny or is that genuinely how he is?

is there a sfg dickscord? if so send

>>12337437
god that would be so based

>>12337439
Yes, then all the image spamming faggots could have their own place to jerk off and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

>>12337437
>>12337439
>>12337446
No

>>12337446
/sfg/ isnt your safe space faggot

>>12337437
>>12337439
>>12337446
>discord

>>12337450
i am still pissed we didn't get anything close to this with elons """"flamethrower"""" and instead got a fucking butane torch

>>12337463
They're getting bolder, a year or two ago they wouldn't have dared mention it around these parts.
Give it another year and you'll have faggots posting links at the top of every thread, watch.
>>12337465
What the fuck was he thinking, calling that flimsy little thing a flamethrower? It's the dumbest thing I've seen him do after trying to inject himself into that 'kids stuck in flooded cave' story.

>>12337450
>>12337463
samefag
>>12337453
you're triggered, but at least you read it first

Will his dream be realized?

Lori garver bout to clean up house in nasa and i cant wait. some of you are as bad as zubrin, married to oldspace artemis program . you will be brought kicking and screaming into the modern age lol

>>12337405
Incomparable though - there was no actual engine testing going on in that one.

>>12337490
She looks like if you took Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris and squeezed them together into one person.

>>12337446
>image spamming faggots
remember that you are on an imageboard you absolute autist

Everytime after failure -
This is why we test!
Glad they figured it out now!
It's just a prototype.
This is actually good for the timeline.
The burst disk burst! It went exactly as planned.


Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they'll eventually succeed but the r/spacex discussion thread has too many people drinking copium.
Elon told us mk1 would do the 20km hop.
*10* prototypes later we still haven't crossed 150m.

I'm not doubting SpaceX, I'm just doubting Elon's timelines. These are aspirational timelines, not gospel.

>>12337496
jesus christ, you're right

>>12337490
>the modern age
The modern age of NASA launching cube sats to monitor cow braaaps?
I'll fucking pass.

>>12337490
Didn't she write an article against manned spaceflight, or am I confusing her with a different NASA admin candidate?

>>12337405
Except SN8 didn't blow up the launchpad in a glorious mininuke explosion

>>12337503
>I'm not doubting SpaceX, I'm just doubting Elon's timelines.
Everyone with a brain doubts Elon's timelines. It's not the timelines that some get excited for, but rather the dedication and drive SpaceX has that many space agencies lack

>>12337509
Nah, she said NASA shouldn't do manned flight.
Private should be free to do it.
She wants NASA to focus on climate - and honestly I would rather have the SLS/Orion money go to climate.
I want manned (or madamed) flight to be private.

>>12336108
Oh my god the cope is delicious and I have no opinion on space one way or the other

>>12337511
yet ;)

>>12337515
we have retards in here that are convinced raptor is perfect and no amount of engine swaps or elon tweets will convince them otherwise haha

>>12337538
Perhaps molten diarrhea will convince them?

>>12337538
Maybe SpaceX will have to buy some BE-4?

>>12337538
It's an experimental engine, and first in it's class.
Engine failures are expected and if they didn't happen, it would probably be worse for development
>>12337543
That was concrete or ice, not the raptor itself

>>12337538
There is a difference between thinking that the Raptor is perfect, and doubting that the Raptor is critically flawed

>>12337538
>we have retards in here that are convinced raptor is perfect
No we don't

>>12337503
Yes people like - >>12337546

>I'm not concern trolling, everyone else here was just circle jerk musk and saying he could do no wrong!
No one was doing that faggot. Stop trying to make up a narrative so you can feel special anti-jerking on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>12337545
>hi elon
>i know we don't see eye to eye on things
>hell, i even sent some passive aggressive tweets @ you from time to time
>but damn it, we're brothers with the same goal
>we will make humans a spacefaring species
>i have just cancelled blue origin's contract to develop be4 for ula
>we're making them for you now
>free of charge
>Gradatim Ferociter

>>12337478
>samefag
discord tranny.

>>12336428
I like how i can be on twitter and 4chan at the same time. What a time to be alive

>>12337555
seething spacex stan!

>>12337555
>>12337563
Just don't reply to him, eventually he'll get bored and go try for (you)s on /tv/.

>>12337545
That won't work because the BE-4
>is larger than a Raptor while making the same thrust
>is designed around LNG while the Raptor is designed around pure methane
>has the same Isp as a highly advanced kerolox engine and lower than the Raptor
>possibly not as far along its development as Raptor
Don't get me wrong, the BE-4 looks like a good engine, but SpaceX can't just adopt the engine in place of the Raptor without redesigning Starship from scratch. Rockets are designed around their engines

Does anyone have insight on the other two FFSC engines that have been tested in history?

>>12337573
BE-4 got all it's issues sorted out. Meanwhile they are still burning and replacing raptors.
Methinks BE-4 is far ahead in development, though Raptor is a much better engine (if it works out it's kinks).

Alright faggots, I got this:
O'Neal Cylinders or Stanford Toruses?

>>12337579
>RD-270
Had instability problems from being F-1 sized and was abandoned when the Soviet moon program got canned.
>Integrated Powerhead Demonstrator
Tested some, and abandoned for no reason. Probably due to Aerojet-Rocketdyne not feeling the need to peruse it when they have NK-33s to sell.

>>12337588
Why not both?
Anyways, shilling my oneil force simulator i made a while ago : https://ephu.itch.io/coriolis-force-simulator

>>12337580
>Methinks BE-4 is far ahead in development
Perhaps, but that is hard to say due to Blue Origin being secretive. Although it should be more reliable due to it being a less extreme design than the Raptor. Only time will tell

>>12337580
>BE-4 got all it's issues sorted out.
Yeah, just barely last month.
> Blue Origin is still troubleshooting the 75,000-horsepower pumps that bring fuel to the BE-4’s main combustion chamber, Bruno said, adding that’s he confident the issues will soon be solved. In October, he stated that the issue was resolved and that the engine moved into production.

Keep in mine there have only been TWO full scale testing BE-4s. The first was delivered to ULA in July 2020.

Any idea as to why SN8 refused to detank until the burst-disc thing popped last night? I'm glad the whole thing didn't blow up at any rate.

>>12337597
That's legitimately good. All I'd suggest is making the cylinder itself rotate.

>>12337617
The valves which are supposed to open couldn't open as raptor fried the unit which drives the valves.

>>12337617
because the engines melted the lines controlling the detanking valves

>>12337617
They have the fucking hydraulics exposed underneath the skirt. The raptors most likely took at least one of the pumps with them.
They really need a bigger and better stand as well as a bit more robust solution for flight hardware at this point. They're past the corn silo stage, time to start hiding the wires.

>>12337620
>>12337621
>>12337622
Whoops. Was that the molten slag we saw during the static fires? Sounds like the melted bit needed some kind of shielding to not do that.

>>12336207
imagine the smell

>>12337624
Unless it was one of the engines pissing itself out, that was hydraulics on fire, yes. You've seen the upskirts and the black tanks etc, that's the hydraulics.
That shit needs far better placement and protection as well as a better stand. They got away with it with one offset engine, they're clearly not getting away with it with three engines.

>>12337624
it was splashing and hot, whatever it was

>>12337326
>Territory bad

K let me into your house and let me fuck your girlfriend
Fuck off pseud

>>12337635
Chud

I'm wondering if Musk still thinks he can pull off launches without a flame diverter.

>>12337627
>>12337628
On the plus side if this is the case then the engines themselves are fine and it's just the hydraulics that need replacing/reinforcing, right? Does the stand already have a flame diverter/trench? If not then I'd think that would help some.

>>12337648
>Does the stand already have a flame diverter/trench?
Haha, no.

And they don't know if it's engine related or not. Not yet, but they suspect it's engine related.

>>12337538
There is a difference between thinking raptor has some issues that can be fixed and thinking some issues in development mean its critically flawed and SpaceX has to give up.

>>12337619
Thanks anon, will work on rotation visualization. Right now the camera is in the rotating frame so the cylinder appears to be stationary.

this hullo video isn't nearly as much cope as you guys made it out to be

It's good to see niggers get representation in space. They fought long and hard for this, it's important for black kids to see themselves in space or else they will just become statistics. #ACAB

>>12337635
>K let me into your house and let me fuck your girlfriend

Only if I’m allowed to watch anon

>>12337657
Maybe if more of them actually got out of the crab bucket, we wouldn't have to make such a fucking big deal out of it?
But no, "too good for the hood". "He an uncle tom".

>>12337644
What does that even mean?
Humans are naturally territorial. If you don’t like that, die.

>>12337657
unironically I wish more people would champion people like Glover and Leland Melvin as role models instead of superheros or dumb hollywood movie representation. Leland Melvin was an NFL linebacker and an astronaut—how is he not the most popular black man in America? Sad.

>>12337650
>Haha, no.
So, flame/heat just gets diverted to the sides and back up into the skirt? And the hydraulics melted as a result?
Why doesn't he dig a ditch? Maybe I'm just oversimplifying but this seems like a pretty basic cause-and-effect issue.

Interesting chain of comments; thought I’d share

>>12337667
Like I said, they got away with it with one offset engine. I can only assume this is typical engineers hubris where they just didn't think about basic shit like that and the ones on the floor doesn't dare speak up out of fear of losing their job.
Because that's a real thing.

>>12337666
>linebacker
turns out he was a wide receiver, but the point still stands

>>12337446
They would only end up coming here and recapping the previous nights virtual grab ass sesh

>>12337672
Weren't most of those tanks stored on the outside in previous prototypes?

>>12337677
Nah, that was the tesla battery packs.

>>12337673
Yeah your point is still valid. People like glover should be role models for ALL people, and it should just be implied that he is is a great roll model for black kids. The fact that they shoehorn him onto a “Capital B, Black” pedestal has got to make him uncomfortable

>Starship's upskirt got too hot
>started dripping
>couldn't relieve the pressure

>>12337285
it almost tanked the entire program

>>12337669
Useless comment though, Raptor doesn't use Helium

>>12337696
>has got to make him uncomfortable
he's flat out said as much

>>12337669
Sexist much? Gases can be a She.