/sci/ - Science & Math

Mammoth wool industry potential
Sheep made obsolete and go extinct

>>12326068
We must make sure it is clamped.

>>12326078
clamped?

>>12326364
THEY CLAMP
THEY VACCINATE
THEY COOM
THEY 5G

>>12326385
They do.

>>12326068
But why? What's the point in bringing back woolly mammoths? Who cares?

>>12326420
Yeah why be curious about anything ever

>>12326420
>he doesn't want a huge hairy elephant

>>12326441
would be cuddleiscious

It has been 5-10 years away for the whole 21st century.

>>12326420
It's only the start. Eventually we could bring back neanderthals, and then have sex with them.

>>12326068
Isn't the half-life of DNA something like 500 years? How would they get any viable mammoth DNA?

>>12326068
Why Asian elephant and not African elephant? Why are scientists so racist?

>>12326979
>Isn't the half-life of DNA something like 500 years?

where did you get that from?

>>12327149
https://www.nature.com/news/dna-has-a-521-year-half-life-1.11555

>>12327165
>The team predicts that even in a bone at an ideal preservation temperature of −5 ºC, effectively every bond would be destroyed after a maximum of 6.8 million years. The DNA would cease to be readable much earlier — perhaps after roughly 1.5 million years, when the remaining strands would be too short to give meaningful information.

>“This confirms the widely held suspicion that claims of DNA from dinosaurs and ancient insects trapped in amber are incorrect,” says Simon Ho, a computational evolutionary biologist at the University of Sydney in Australia. However, although 6.8 million years is nowhere near the age of a dinosaur bone — which would be at least 65 million years old — “We might be able to break the record for the oldest authentic DNA sequence, which currently stands at about half a million years,” says Ho.

Last mammuths died about 4000 years ago.

>>12326420
True. We should be bringing back deinonychus.

>>12326972
The Jews will never allow this because it would add too much calm rationality to humanity.

>>12327281
>thread about mammoths
>someone brings up the jews

>>12326077
based, sheep are subhuman and need to be exterminated

>>12327491
lol, it's basically a requirements in every /sci/ thread at this point.

>>12326068
theoretically if the different nucleobases fossilize differently, it could be analyzed and then synthesized regardless of age

>>12326068
I'm more interested in reviving this
>muh ethics
shush

>>12327784
human skull: photo with 250mm lens.
neanderthal skull: 6mm fisheye

>>12327784
It can still be done ethically.

It would have very specific demands though. It would need to be born to a carrier who:

>is already a parent with experience
>versed in child psychology, animal psychology, Neanderthal genetics, evolutionary psychology and evolutionary neuroscience specifically, and both psychology and neuroscience broadly in general
>the carrier must be a person capable of loving the Neanderthal child, genuinely as their own as a full mother, child can't be raised in a laboratory setting, only in a genuine family
>experience with various primates and specifically the development of various Hominidae species
>euthanasia has to be available for the child/eventual possible adult

Probably forgetting a few more conditions.

>>12327805

>>12326068
You don't need an artificial womb, since the babies are small enough to fit in the womb of a smaller adult member from another species. We just need to solve the hybridization problem for the nearest physiologically similar species. In theory we could develop a resilient genome for all mammals to be able to give birth to any other mammal.

>>12326077
Headline 2045: Record number of Scots die trying to shag Wooly Mammoth
Wonder what a Wooly Mammoth burger would taste like.

>>12327165
>>12327276
I don't see how dna is viable at 1.3 million years when it degrades after 500 years. Perhaps it is readable, but not actually useable? After 4000 years it seems that less than 1% of the dna will be left behind.

>>12327886
>>12327784
looks kino, no wonder there was so much sexual tension between them and sapiens

>>12327951
Totally. Imagine if we could bring them back. Imagine the orgies!

>>12327886
>that feel when no waist

>>12326068
The greatest potential is to release them back into managed tundra and boreal forest to knock down trees, hard pack snow and increase the albedo to reduce temperatures over permafrost

I heard they just wanted to gene edit a bunch of indian elephants with key genes such as hair and fat
rather than an unreliable clone

>>12326385
Rent free

>>12327047
Asian elephants are more docile than African elephant. Asian elephants however have greater differences between them and the Wooly Mammoth than African elephants do. It seems like African elephants would be a better match but maybe those doing the combination are worried about aggressiveness more than matching up features.

>>12326420
If you don't see the point, then you are incredibly narrow minded.

>>12328085
But Asian elephants are closer to mammoths aren't they?

>>12327491
Well, it was in response to a post about Neanderthals. Interestingly, Jewish people tend have more Neanderthal DNA than the general population so depending on what method we used to bring back Neanderthals, the involvement of Jewish people might be required.

>>12326068
The same news has been around since early 2000s and I havent seen a single hairy elephant yet

>>12326420
>Why would you want to see something you've never seen before?
Dumbest post on this site, ever.

>>12326972
I’ve always had the intuition that Neanderthal women had big titties and were the first to evolve giant milkers. Hence why they had the hunchback big boob slouch
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sFX8-5M1Y7U

>>12328104
>I havent seen a single hairy elephant yet
Do wigs count?

>>12328121
That might explain Khazar milkers.

>>12326068
If we ever get to the point where we recreate extinct animals, wouldnt that make thz endangered species annotation and maybe even poaching worthless?

>>12328146
If we could get the DNA correct, perhaps. The problem is proposals so far involve mixing DNA with existing species, making what is essentially a brand new species.

>>12328168
If you have multiple DNA sources, you could come pretty close. Make hybrid, make hybrid out of hybrid+other DNA, use that hybrid with yet another source of ancient DNA, etc. etc. until you have like 99% mammoth with as much elephant DNA as we have Neanderthal DNA.

>>12328168
The universe uses category theory to verify extinction. Ancient organisms don't have incomplete DNA, they have shorter genomes. You could just clone one normally, but the universe will feel that the organism is beyond the natural range of its morphic field and invoke the elemental of life to decide its metabolic properties.

>>12328199
That's fine for already extinct animals but it seems reckless to allow existing animals to go extinct just because we can make a somewhat close clone of them later.

>>12326068

I dream of the 5kg Mammoth burger!

>>12328319
>An elephant is often described as being unpleasant-tasting with an off texture that is a mix of fatty, gelatinous, and coarse.
Don't know how similar the Mammoth would be.

>>12327886
These guys could take a serius beating, not much reach but theuy would take a while in the octagon

>>12328334
people have ate the frozen remains from permafrost

>>12328363
they're built tougher though, their skeletons are thicker in all the right places

>>12328365
Did they enjoy it?

>>12328334
>Don't know how similar the Mammoth would be.

So we alter a few genes and make the meat DELICIOUS!

>>12327497
Sheep are based

Pigs need eliminating

>>12328445
>Pigs need eliminating

BACON comes from pigs.

No way in fucking hell you are taking bacon away from me!!

>>12326068
it can be done now its just that no one wants to fund it