/sci/ - Science & Math

People forgot to dream and began to conform.

>>12313048
How about you stop sitting on your hands and be the change you want to see in the world. There's tons of stuff that's being developed right now: Nuclear Engineering, Cold Atom Physics, Nanotechnology, Room-Temperature Super-Conductors, Quantum Computing. Within a couple centuries, we might even colonize the entire Solar System up to Neptune.

>>12313048
Science has discovered dozens of new genders and determined there is no such thing as race. That's quite something.

>>12313048
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>12313048
It's diminishing returns. We've discovered so much we're scraping the barrel at this point.
Also in order for you to even begin research today you have to go through 300 years of scientific progress. Someone like Einstein or Dirac only studied classical mechanics before they started their careers. Today you're expected to be proficient at quantum mechanics and special relativity if you want to get into grad school.

>>12313451
This is blue pilled thinking. Einstein didn't
learn tons of existing research and contribute a tiny new thing. He asked entirely new questions that were accessible to a whole range of non-experts.

The popular thing to study for Einstein to study would have been civil or mechanical engineering. There were no super star scientists to base his life on.

We have to look for new roads.

> have to go through 300 years of scientific progress

Only if you are becoming an expert an increasingly narrow and deep established fields of study.
Of course, everyone needs to study some of what's done before, but if you are serious researcher your goal should be to ask new questions, not become a technical wizard in an area with a career carved out.

Unfortunately this is largely how academia works. Everything has been careered. The obsession with papers and citations is especially funny given that all the great "papers" were just letters among friends.

>>12313048
What are you talking about? Look at all the progress being done on smart phones and social media accessibility.

>>12313048
>advances in robotics
>actually rigorous theory of computation
>prosperous materials research
>condensed matter physics is now relevant in both everyday life and abstract ways
>computing technology has gotten smaller and many orders of magnitude more powerful
>constantly new research in medicine and medical devices
The fuck are you from? The 1850s to the 1950s were particularly prosperous, but consider that the reason the graph doesn't say much for current times is 1) suppressing detail to highlight a point and 2) the nature of technological progress has become more about identifying problems to solve with current technology rather than making completely new things, even though we're still making completely new things.

>>12313048
because you can't fucking speak english

>>12313048
The rigidity in the methods hold us back
The amount of elitism narrows approach and perception
Funding gets handed to specific things for finance group interest
Institutions pump out the same brains. They're lackeys to unpack the interests of financers
I could go on

>>12313048
Become a scientist and figure it out yourself.

>>12313048
No more impending doom or imminent threats. If the world seriously went to war tomorrow, you would see a technological explosion beyond human comprehension.

>>12313048
Humanity must be in a perpetual state of war / psychological warfare to advance technologically and scientifically.
What have been the biggest technological advances in the last 20 years?? missiles that you can reuse, smartphones, 3d printing, gene editing, stem cells, electric cars ? if you compare them with years between 1950 and 1970, is fucking nothing.jpg

>>12314086
This is how we get fascism lol

Also fear and war as a motivator as silly
If you ask me, humanity is on the threshold of coming across some very serious discoveries with broad implications in the universe
I don't think we, as species, are going to be handed these keys if we maintain the identity of warmongers

That said, genuine curiosity, an interest in mystery, a thirst for getting the most from life, fluidity, and treating each day anew are sufficient enough for us to make profound discoveries and developments

>>12314135
Last time the world duked it out fascism basically got wiped off of the face of the Earth.

>>12314148
You misunderstand fascism
Fascism was the vehicle that nationalists used, but they're not mutually exclusive

In very short form, fascists believed that war and war alone brought the most out of human energy and development

>>12314149
To tack on, naturally you need a group to do this, but it doesn't necessarily need to be state. It does instigate tribalism though

Basically this image minus the mantra can be an example of non nationalist fascist ideological blend

>>12314149
>>12314153
Okay, and what of it?

>>12314161
The nature of "the world duking it out" is the world engaging in the fascist playing field. You become the games you play. People don't have to wave a fascist banner to be engaging in the mindset .

Either way, war mongering as a motivator is a fascist concept

>>12313048
cause science only works when it's done by autists and aristocrats in their free time as a hobby

It's all been picked.
>find some mold on a pietri dish
>it saves all the soldiers from gangrene

compare that to the human genome project which, in 2000, took billions of dollars and who knows how many thousands of man hours

>>12313048
work to har, dont play hard enough

>>12313048
>internet
>handheld computers that nearly every person on earth owns
>self-landing rockets
>artificial intelligence
>robotics
>medical research
We're doing pretty fucking fine anon, I hope things speed up still of course, but there is a lot we've accomplished recently

>>12314177
>It's all been picked.
Lol
Humans know nothing

>>12314167
>Either way, war mongering as a motivator is a fascist concept
Okay, and how do you argue against this aside from just calling it "fascist?"

>>12314190
90% of those amount to shitty attention-stealing apps that don't make anybody's lives better or achieve anything of value

>>12314199
I didn't

>>12314190
>>medical research
>almost 1 year of pandemic
>we still basically know absolutely nothing about the virus
>the fucking OMS still bickering about whether a fucking respiratory virus spreads in the air or not
lmaoing at science, also
>nutrition science has been basically purely destructive for the last 50-80 years

>>12314206
>nutrition science has been basically purely destructive for the last 50-80 years
That's intentional
Info is out there and it's been in high supply all throughout the past.
It's only buried or put on the backburner because the pharma industry profits so much

>>12314196
At least we can manipulate matter, that is good enough.

>>12313048
Capitalism.

>>12314199
You'll never be a woman, tranny

>>12314461
What did he mean by this?

>>12313493
>He asked entirely new questions that were accessible to a whole range of non-experts.
you can't really do that in modern physics and that's my point. If you want to do breakthrough research in physics today you need to spend an enormous amount of time studying before it doesn't sound like gobbledygook anymore. This isn't exactly like Einstein thinking about clocks at a train station. We live in a postmodern world where paradoxically there's too much research, so every field becomes incredibly niche and inaccessible unless you spend a ton of time reading papers. And even then anything you come up with was probably already published by some other research group in China or smth. It's information saturation.

>>12315359
Projecting his own thoughts and insecurities into others.

>>12315389
Imo, people should start exploring non-gatekept fields
The potential for "science" is all around us.