/sci/ - Science & Math

Humans don't need meat.

>>12245575
their life is a LOT shorter

>>12245593
>implying that animals would live longer if fed cooked meat

>>12245575
We can eat raw meat too. We’re just picky.

>>12245575
What about dogs?

>>12245606
they seem pretty happy with their raw meat to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94C79Aovfv4

>>12245599
pets live longer

>>12245612
pet what

>>12245610
That's a wolf dog

>>12245648
cope. there's an entire community of people whose dogs thrive from being fed raw meat/bones
see https://www.amazon.com/Give-Your-Dog-Bone-Commonsense/dp/0646160281

>>12245575
>>human animals need cooked meat
we don't need cooked meat, are you retarded?

>>12245583
enjoy your vitamin deficiencies

>not eating your meat raw.

You literally only cook dirty meats like birds and lizards because of salmonella risk. Otherwise eat that shit raw, nothing better than eating a sirloin roast tartar with some olive oil and salt.

>>12245575
I eat raw meat every day. You dont need cooked meat. You cant even digest it.
When vegans say meat gives you bowel cancer, it is because of cooked meat.

>>12245575
There are raw carnivore humans out there

>>12245841

>>12245848
>>>12245841

>>12245575
Chewing and digesting raw meat took way longer, we adapted to eating cooked meat because it takes way less time to break it down and use it. The boost in protein coupled with having more freed up time likely aided our development towards becoming human.
Also all vegans should be mulched.

>>12245904
>digesting raw meat takes longer
Dude this is so wrong its unbelieveable.

I urge you to just try some sushi. Watch how it almost melts in your mouth. Cooked meat does not do that.

>>12245575
>human animals need cooked meat
Human diet is controlled more by gut biome than anything else, grow up eating it without dying and your gut will handle it fine. Obviously different diets have different health outcomes, but raw meat is easy mode for the human body.

>>12245907
Do you believe raw fish is the same as raw beef?

>>12245575
We dont need to cook it, it just tastes better when cooked, but you can eat meat or fish raw it will just taste worse than cooked

>>12245575
humans thrive better on raw meat still.
cooking has removed/reduced the threat of dying from parasites and disease though.
animals love cooked meat as well, but noone will go out of their way to cook for some random animals (except cats & dogs).

raw meat tastes better, but some meats carry much higher risks.

chicken sushy would taste amazing.

>>12245575
Wild ass animals have better GI systems than humans and their microbiome has adjusted to eating raw meat. There's a theory that states that humans were able to evolve due to less evolutionary emphasis on their GI tract and why our brains were able to evolve so much.

>>12245949
>cooked fish tastes better than raw
>cooked liver tastes better than raw

>>12245958
Cats do not thrive on cooked meat.

>>12245575
Cooking it makes food easier to digest and thus more nutritious and calorie dense.

We can't fight the bacterias, parasites and other stuff in raw meat anymore.

>>12246023
Oh, yeah and safer to consume.

>>12246027
sv3rige is proof otherwise

same reason there are people who cannot digest milk and other who cannot digest food which contains gluten
we are biologically degenerating
each generation is getting more domesticated and weaker, soon we will not be capable of eating anything else but sòy milk

>>12246032
That dude has odd looking skin, not as unhealthy as vegans but still. He looks sort of sickly, whereas vegans look like they are on death's door

>>12246151
He literally has eaten 1 year old rotten raw eggs and meat and daily subsists on raw meat and doesn't get sick, regardless of whether he's getting insufficient nutrients or biologically has bad skin

>>12245757
Don't confuse vegetarianism with veganism.

>>12245575
We've been cooking food for a long time. Our physiology has changed accordingly.

>>12245575
You could survive you would just have parasites and be sick sometimes. Cooked food usually tastes better too (not overcooked)

>>12245907
>the process of breaking down and extracting chemical compounds from the digestive system is the same as how long something takes to break up in your mouth
Ask me how I know you aren't a biologist

>human animals are smart
>nonhuman animals aren't smart

>>12245575
>human animals need cooked meat
We don't need cooked meat, we can survive on raw meat once you gut adapts to it. Besides, we still eat raw meat today, with blue rare steaks and sushi.

>>12245575
we evolved to cook things

>>12245575
We can eat raw meat but it tastes worse and it requires more energy to break it down into usable nutrients.

>>12245931
God that probably tastes like hell

>>12245935
lmaooooooo

>>12245575
Something to do with different stomach pH and immune system.
The heat also kills off pathogens and allows for food to last longer and taste better.
Dogs can still however get sick from raw meat just like humans.

>>12245931
Wrong. It all comes down to luck - whether you are unlucky enough to eat raw meat that contains e. Coli, salmonella or any of the other bacterias that cause illness

>>12245575
Assuming the animal you kill is not diseased, raw meat from a freshly-killed animal is perfectly healthy and safe for human consumption as well, but only for a relatively short time, because bacteria hasn't had a chance to grow on the meat and spoil it.
The problem is that we no longer kill animals, drag them home, and eat them immediately. The meat you buy at the supermarket is weeks, sometimes months old and has spent time in factories and on trucks getting to the place you buy it. So in all that time there are LOTS of opportunities for bacteria to collect and grow on the meat, so you need to cook it to make sure you kill all that bacteria that would otherwise make you sick.
In addition, cooking meat makes the nutrients within it more bioavailable (more efficient nutrition) as well as simply tasting better, so there's really no good reason not to cook meat except in the most desperate of situations.

>>12246047
>soon we will not be capable of eating anything else but sòy milk
all according to plan...

>>12246183
I wasn’t commenting on the ability of his digestive system to handle rotten food. I was commenting on his sickly looking skin

>>12246631
We evolved by cooking things!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_Fire:_How_Cooking_Made_Us_Human