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Why is there so much disdain towards psychology and psychologists in general?

>> No.12234113

Pseudoscience for copers that couldn't cut it as neuroscientists.

>> No.12234115

How can we help you personally, OP?

>> No.12234119

/sci/ will shit on everything that isn't math or physics.

Though, psychology is one of the fields hit hardest by the reproducibility crisis.

>> No.12234137

>>12234110
Because it's a very fuzzy and non-concrete science

It is still a science, though, and obviously an important one, since it's the only one that actually attempts to explain our own minds. It's one of the most important sciences, at least relative to humans. But it's just super unreliable and difficult to make rigorous.

>> No.12234158

>>12234137
Data can be collected from art. It doesn't make art a science though.

>> No.12234167

>>12234113
Neuroscience and psychology don't study the same thing. Psychology studies behavior and the cognitive mechanisms behind it, neuroscience studies the biological and chemical processes of the brain.

The object of study is completely different even though they are interconnected.

It's a bit like engineering and mathematics. Engineers use almost exclusively mathematics as a tool and mathematicians to make and explain what engineers do; but the two fields are not trying to do the same thing and can't replace one another.
>>12234158
Why isn't psychology a science?

>> No.12234217

>>12234167
>Why isn't psychology a science?
Because it is a joke field where it is impossible to replicate data and conclusions can change by colossal margins depending on which day of the week they collect data.

>> No.12234222

>>12234217
So meteorology isn't scientific either?

>> No.12234224

>>12234222
No.

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/thread

>> No.12234230

>>12234222
>field studying day-to-day weather patterns finds that projected conclusions change day-to-day
>field studying fundamental long-term human behaviour patterns find that projected conclusions change day-to-day
One of these things is acceptable.

>> No.12234246

>>12234230
Human behavior changes and depends on many factors including, (but not limited to) personality, personal, unique experiences, mood, hormonal cycles, age, gender, sleepiness, hunger, personal traits (attention span, intelligence, perception), cultural/historical context, alcohol/drug usage, etc.

Most of these things cannot be measured objectively.

>> No.12234257

>>12234246
>Most of these things cannot be measured objectively.
Exactly, nice "science"

>> No.12234264

>>12234257
Science is not defined by the data that can be collected (psychologists can, and do, measure just about anything) it's about producing knowledge. Psychology does produce objective knowledge, so why wouldn't it be a science?

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>>12234264
>Most of these things cannot be measured objectively
>Psychology does produce objective knowledge
AHAHAHAHA

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>>12234110
because most people go into psych do it because they are either deeply broken or too dumb for actual science

>> No.12234485

>>12234110
Nonreproducibility Mr Anderson

>> No.12234491

>>12234113
Neuroscience is more of a pseudoscience than psychology.
>and then this part of the brain LIGHTS UP when this happens!
This is not real science

>> No.12234517

>>12234485
Make a thread.

>> No.12234553

>>12234517
See >>12234225

>> No.12234574

>>12234110
Psychology is just watered down religion for fedoratippers. Name me on thing psychology solves that religion hasn't solved in the last 2k years or so

>> No.12236533

>>12234110
It contains a lot of cargo cult "science". It makes little sense to apply the quantitative methods appropriate for physics and so on to studying the mind. It's not even possible to observe minds other than your own.

>> No.12238008

>>12234574
What has religion solved ever?

>> No.12238026

>>12238008
It fixed a lot of societal problems in the christian nations, you can tell since they fell apart as soon as the religion went away.