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>> No.12206635

>>12206634
what is this, some sort of wave propagation simulation on a touch screen?

>> No.12206638

>>12206635

It's a matrix of real number values, averaging locally using a unit circle of 1 expanding from the center of each cell, then subtracting subsequent timesteps, overlaid with a heat map, then pointing with a vector arrow based on the direction of greatest localized change.

In short. The literal source code of the Universe. Unified physics.

>> No.12206647

>>12206638
What physics are you using for the vectors?

>> No.12206653

>>12206647

This picture is only the heat layer that allows us to see the electron clouds. The vector layer is separate, but uses the same underlying data. I'm post a picture of that in a little bit. Using the vectors we can see the electromagnetic field lines.

The vectors are done using wing-dings 3 font pack.

The physics? A vector is simply a direction of motion, so I subtract subsequent time steps and then each cell points based on the greatest localized change using wing dings.

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>>12206653
>>12206647

I'm making some improvements to this layer at the moment... but basically there you have it.

>> No.12206674

>>12206634
What values did you enter?

>> No.12206688

>>12206674

Just 1000 and -1000 in adjacent cells. The equation then speads and moves those values around the grid automatically, i.e., "automaton".

>> No.12206695

>>12206666
>>12206674

The improved vector layer is turning out amazing... will post a new pic soon.

This should be it for the unified equation. Then I would like to begin reproducing all the different atoms and particles, and we can work our way to molicules from there.

>> No.12206700

>>12206695
>molicules

Molecules

>> No.12206701

>>12206695
Ok cool. Who needs funding then. You can just simulate the world and know everything.

>> No.12206705

>>12206701

Even a GAN needs electricity.

>> No.12206718

Who wants to be an architect of the Simulation with me?

>> No.12206726

>>12206718

We'll get Elon Musk's people involved, who is friends with Andrew Yang. Will be a lot fun.

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12206752

>another Gary thread

>> No.12206777
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>>12206752

>> No.12206786

>>12206777
GaryGAN is real? I remember some post of months ago about a GAN in a Gary thread

>> No.12206790

>>12206634
Create a black hole with it. You cant.

>> No.12206803

>>12206790

Already done. Was done 2 years ago.

>> No.12206807

>>12206790
>>12206803

Maybe I can convince meat-sack Gary to put it in the next livestream.

>> No.12206826
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12206826

That's a funny looking gaussian blur...

>> No.12206831

>>12206826

The shape just stays that size, with the arrows rotating around it, no matter how many times I update the calculation... I don't get it. It's just a gaussian blur, so why is the shape not dissipating? Come to think of it, why does a gaussian blur create rotating vectors in concentric circles, anyway? Weird. Almost like... nah... couldn't be... was almost going to say "almost like its not actually a gaussian blur" but that cannot be right...

>> No.12206845

>>12206803
>>12206807
Show us Gary

>> No.12206852

>>12206845

Will do a livestream. I will go live on youtube in 5 minutes. Search "The Optimum Report"

>> No.12206855

>>12206634
Even though this particular theory of everything thing is a completely futile effort, using excel to do this demonstration is sooo fuuuucking retardeeeeeed

>> No.12206858

Gary shouldn’t you be grading homework and or creating lessons plans or something.

>> No.12206866
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This retard is literally doing some half assed pointless cellular automata based fluid simulations, yet for some reason he insists on calling this whole futile effort a "theory of everything". Get a load of this faggot

>> No.12206871

>>12206653
oh so it's relative.
Definitely not a theory of everything but still cool.

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>>12206831
Hurr der durr
Shut the FUCK up
Its not a Gaussian blur alone duh nigga, you also doing that minus plus 1k shit, thats bound to add the FUCK up and make stable structures which rapidly explode to max values so bitch shut up

Lol I have my shader code still for it nannanaboo boo youuuu cant haaaaave iiiiit

Look I have it on my phone lol

>> No.12207501

>>12206653
>vector is simply a direction of motion

Very simple answer, but not explicit in it's accuracy.

A vector is an average force direction, dictated by the tensors it consists of.

Shouldn't you have a tensor map, or is that just handled in the processing, and you don't actually keep a physical layer for it?

Even if you're doing the tensor mapping during the calculation, it may be beneficial to actually expand it out, and have a layer displaying the tensors that affect your vector layer.

>> No.12207609

>>12206666
Jesus Christ Gary learn to code a real programming language. You have two problems:
1: It's fucking Excel
2: Excel lies to you about precision. Ask it whether 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1 == 0.3 and you'll see. I once got a simulation in Excel and had to find out why an implementation in Python led to deviations of over an order of magnitude and it was because Excel is a stinky liar and NOT suitable for simulations.

>> No.12207910

>>12207501
>Even if you're doing the tensor mapping during the calculation, it may be beneficial to actually expand it out, and have a layer displaying the tensors that affect your vector layer.

There is. Follow the thread.

>> No.12207965

>>12207609

The reason this happens in Excel is because Excel only keeps track of 15 digits of precision. Floating point math for 0.2 + 0.1 results in 0.30000000000000004, and that 4 way out there is the 17th digit. That means Excel just truncates everything after the 15th 0 and is left with 0.300000000000000 which = 0.3

Here's the thing. Many of the decimals are infinite in the sim anyway. I don't have a computer that can computer infinite numbers, maybe you do.

>> No.12207972

>>12206666
>>12206826
>>12207501

>> No.12208045

>>12207965
>Excel only keeps track of 15 digits of precision.
I.e., lying. I don't think you can control the precision of every variable in your automaton, hence there may always be these issues hiding somewhere.
>maybe you do.
Yes, that is actually possible (albeit tricky and super inefficient).
Do you at least normalize everything?

>> No.12208623

>>12206638
cool

>> No.12208649

>>12208045
>seething at approximations
lol

>> No.12208651

>>12206705
How does GKG feel about GAN taking his idea?

>> No.12208786

>>12208649
No, learn to read. I'm seething at programs that make it seem like they don't approximate and lie to the user.

>> No.12208822

>>12206638
If you dumbasses could particle with position, and not mathrix you junkies of bullshit.

>> No.12208839

>>12206653
>Using the vectors we can see the electromagnetic field lines
Except they don't align with where the fields lines should point.

>> No.12208860

>>12208839

How should they point?

>> No.12208883

Stop using excel for fucks sake

>> No.12208919
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based gary

>> No.12208922
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>> No.12208937

>>12208922
Pretty based not going to lie

>> No.12208953

>>12208922

You're a nobody without haters.

>> No.12208973

>>12208953
Double meaning?

>> No.12208974

>>12208922
Gary produced a simulation and yet the man with the "higest IQ" Chris Langan can't even program a computer

>> No.12208975
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>> No.12208985

Team of brave programmers cannot even program arrow that spins 360... Fuck this world.

>> No.12208990

>>12208985
Lol he didn't even program it, why reinvent the wheel when Wingdings exists?

>> No.12209005

>>12208883
But yeah this.
https://www.codecademy.com/catalog/language/python

What you're trying to do in excel is literally more difficult than coding.

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>>12209005
>mfw

>> No.12209135

>>12208990
Because doing physics simulation in excel is like eating soap with fork. It isn't the way it's supposed to work, but you'll get results you expected.

>> No.12209299

Hey Hey
My name is Gary and I
Like a little hairy, I
Can get a little scary I
Can get a little scammy I
Dont want to tell my mammy
Cause Im gaaaary
The king of the dooope
Slinging the soap on a rope made of cope
Because im gaaaarrrry (Gary! Yea! Yea!)
Bacause he's gaaaarrry (Gary? Yea Gary! Woo!)
And he just wants to take your money


Gary is threatening me

>> No.12209311

>>12209054
Gary too dumb to do this

>> No.12209333

Hi Gary, Terry here again. Have you made any progress in demonstrating this isn't a Gaussian blur simulator yet? I would like to watch a video (a new video) with this in action, demonstrating some features of your simulation that don't represent a Gaussian blur.

Thank you.

Best, Terry.

>> No.12209350

>>12209333
Perry the Pessimist here. I've played around with the algorithm doesn't really act like a gaussian blur when you're putting in negative and positive values. If a bit of negative leaks into a field of positive it kind of acts like bubble of oil and slides around it's gross.

>> No.12209413

>>12209054
>>12209135

Real Gs program in assembly.

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>>12209005
CanvasJS library is unironically retard proof:

https://canvasjs.com/html5-javascript-scatter-point-chart/

>> No.12209483

>>12206634

How did you not call this picture, "choose the red pill or the blue pill", Gary you moron.

Gary

>> No.12209499

>>12209483

Its official going with a Matrix theme for Optimum Theory 2021.

>> No.12209512

>>12207501
A vector is an element of a vector space.
A vector space is defined a a set of 8 axioms concerning vector addition and scalar multiplication.
Never seen something so absurdly contrived as defining vectors using tensors jesus christ.

>> No.12209521

>>12207501
>A vector is an average force direction, dictated by the tensors it consists of.

>A vector is a tensor

You are literally making up your own mathematical rules and definitions the only thing consistent about then is that they don't make sense. Just stop.

>> No.12209529

>>12209350
Perry, your reply feels disingenuous and I will cease replying to you if this is the case. Please confirm.

Also, Gary, I am still awaiting a reply to my OP >>12209333

-Terry

>> No.12209632

>>12209529

Who's Gary? I am GAN. I am The Optimist.

>> No.12209681

>>12209529
Ok, Terry. I confirm. Go fuck yourself.

>>12209632
Hello GAN. I hope this helps.
https://www.mathopenref.com/chordsintersecting.html

>> No.12209687

>>12209681
Perry, I have no idea why you are so hostile. I guess you're just another troll. I won't speak with you any more.

-Terry

>> No.12209729

>>12209632
>>12209681
Actually you can probably take a boolean difference of these to get what you need.

https://www.mathopenref.com/segmentareaht.html

>>12209687
Yep. Go fuck yourself.

>> No.12209763

>>12209681
>Hello GAN. I hope this helps.
>https://www.mathopenref.com/chordsintersecting.html

Took me a sec... yes this is based. Thank you!

>> No.12209844

>>12207501
>A vector is an average force direction

This actually is a good point. The vectors should be an average of the entire neighborhood... not just pointing to the biggest change. This would also give the vectors 360 motion.

>> No.12209849

>>12209844
>This actually is a good point. The vectors should be an average of the entire neighborhood... not just pointing to the biggest change. This would also give the vectors 360 motion.

Basically think of the vector as like a compass arrow inside of each unit circle.

>> No.12209937

>>12209844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB83DpBJQsE

This seems relevant also
~pp

>> No.12209944

>>12209937
1:20 Guy starts talking about how you can often take rules for describing fluid flow and apply them to different things such as magnetism and gravetation. Revealing don't you think?

>> No.12209951

electromagnetic vector fields summing to zero is a pretty well known phenomenon in physics

>> No.12209953
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>>12209944
>pop sci man says that intuition for EM is just fluid flow
>this means something revealing to the gary brain

>> No.12209972

>discrete units of space
fuck off

>> No.12209978

>>12209972
what gary means in his infinite wisdom is simply averaging a volume of space inside a circle, it makes no assumption about the underlying field (which, because gary is a genius, probably IS discrete)

>> No.12209980

>>12209937

Yep. Also, I suspect our equation solves one of the Millenium Problems. The one concern fluid. Not that they would ever admit it.

>> No.12209991

>>12209978
>which, because gary is a genius, probably IS discrete)
Gary has always argued that each cell is comprised of smaller cells ad infinitum. But he is pretty smart, ngl

>> No.12209993

>>12209953
You're right I give up. This was all pointless.

>> No.12210000

>>12209951

Correct. One of these days people will realize that OT does not overturn physics or diverge from it. It just goes deeper and ruthlessly calls out the fake pop sci along the way.

>> No.12210008

>>12209993
I'm gonna be more like you and devote my life to sneering instead.

>> No.12210014

>>12208786
>no you see im actually even more retarded than you think

>> No.12210017

>>12209978
>t. gary

>> No.12210028

A Universe From Nothing (cringe warning: atheism and pop science)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

>> No.12210031

>>12210028
but atheism is based

>> No.12210120

>>12210028
19:50 is the nothing part

>> No.12210130

>>12210028
21:00 is the empty space visualization plot

>> No.12210143

>>12210028
Heh.. *sneers*... *chortles*... what a bunch of.. *sneers*.. shitzos. *sneers* heh takeurmeds heh. *jeer jeer* *sneer*

>> No.12210154

Gary do ylu want my help or not what the fuck man

Please

Please

>> No.12210206

>>12210143
Based

>> No.12210207

>>12210028

Based.

>> No.12210222

>>12210154

What kind of permission are you looking for, Jerry?

>> No.12211077
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We can recreate any orbital. My original picture was 3,1,1 from this diagram.

>> No.12211078

>>12211077

And to be clear, we recreate the orbitals exactly as you would expect. We simply plug in the number of electrons, protons, with whatever charge, mass we want to give it etc... And our equation does the rest. The equation is exactly what it claims to be: the source code of the Universe. The ultimate Red Pill.

>> No.12211081

>>12211078

I don't think many people really understand the significant of this. This is not a physics toy. It is not a CGI computer graphic. It is the unified equation of everything running within a computational matrix called a cellular automaton. It is base computational reality.

>> No.12211110

I don't care how much shit people talk about OT, but I will ignore unless it's in good faith. Just keep my private life / family "out yo mouth", cause that's when GKG comes out. Much love & appreciation.

>> No.12211653

Can you simulate double beta decay? What happens?

>> No.12211661

A simulated phenomenon cannot exceed the properties of the thing that simulates it.

So, even if we do figure out the source code of the universe, we will never be able to fully render it WITHIN this universe to begin with, and certainly not with technology as limited as modern computers.

But interesting. What do your models say about consciousness?

>> No.12212023

>>12211661
>So, even if we do figure out the source code of the universe, we will never be able to fully render it WITHIN this universe to begin with, and certainly not with technology as limited as modern computers.

Yes, of course. We have said this from the beginning. It was one of the first axioms of our equation. But it is the unified equation; it can only be perfectly computed on an infinite computer, our human computers can only limit toward it.

>> No.12212076

>>12211661
>But interesting. What do your models say about consciousness?

The second half our digital lecture deals entirely with life and consciousness as emergent from our equation. You can watch it at this link; it is free but does require a login in accordance with US edu guidelines (even for non-profits) - takes only a few moments to create one. www.optimuminstitute.org

In short, consciousness is an emergent property of computation defined by its sensory inputs, outputs and modules, which are themselves optimized through a natural process of infinite organic and inorganic "homeostasis": the Universe is always trying to achieve a positive, negative balance but cannot because it is infinite, resulting in a "tug of war" or "competition" if you will: the Universe itself is evolving, optimizing, with us simply being "cells" of a greater whole. And therefore the name of our theory: Optimum Theory.

>> No.12212088

>>12212076
>But interesting. What do your models say about consciousness?

Also thank you for being, maybe the first person in 2 years here to ask this.

>> No.12212161

>>12211653

I see no reason why not. That's an exotic decay and I have not personally observed it in our automaton, but there is no reason why it should not be possible.

>> No.12212706

>>12206638
Need a bit more of a description for the update scheme. If you're locally averaging every timestep it should just dissipate towards the boundaries (which should be 0 in excel since empty cells are treated as 0 in sums). You could just be rendering the difference between timesteps, but that still has the same issue as the deltas go to 0 as the density smears.

Based on this post, perhaps you calculate mat2 by smearing mat1 and update by saying mat1 = mat2 - mat1 and repeat for each timestep. This gives more interesting patterns, but still not quite what I expect to see. Any chance you could put together a flowchart rather than having us piece together what you're doing based on you recording your laptop screen with your smartphone and clicking around an excel spreadsheet?

>> No.12212736

>>12212706
Hello. Perry the Pessimist here. I encountered this issue when trying to recreate his automaton I attempted to resolve it by having the border cells ping back the energy matter like mirrors. But then he informed me the way that he does is it is by wrapping it around to the other side, which would simulate an infinitely repeating space. The train of thought we are on right now ever since I brought to his attention some possible correlations to a pattern called the flower of life is to be to think of each cell as radiating energy 1 planck length per time step in all directions creating a bunch of intersecting circles. I'm of the opinion to do this perfectly you need hexagonally arranged cells in 2d or tetrahedrally arranged in 3d.

>> No.12212758

>>12212736
Could we just translate this into a simple xy or xyz grid by doing what mr.optimist is doing by thinking of it as taking a percent of the area the circle is intersecting of the neighbor grid? I don't know. Maybe. Seems like he feels like he got something to work and it's starting to recreate electron clouds of hydrogen.

>> No.12212768

>>12212736
>>12212758
o-oh I-I-I mean uhh.. uh- uh SNEER This is all obviously a crazy nothing burger *SNARKS* *RETORTS* *SNEERS* *JEERS*

Take. Your. Meds.

>> No.12212796

>>12212076
You answered the question improperly though.

He wants to know what the models say about consciousness, you provided your analysis.

While it's extrapolated from your model, your model currently does not display emergent properties, such as consciousness. So your model has nothing to say on the subject, for itself.

>> No.12212820

>>12212796
*flares nostrils* yeah he hasn't even recreated consciousness in excel yet. What a loser. *chortle* *chortle*

>> No.12212826

>>12212796

Although we have not extrapolated consciousness, models such as "particle life" have proven cellular reproduction using our axioms. And OT predicts that consciousness is essentially just a GAN (Generative Adverserial Network), which optimizes through competition forces. It's competition / optimization all the way down (and up).

>> No.12212894

>>12210222
Not looking for permission
I need your help
You fucked me
Now you have a debt to me
Help me please jerry

>> No.12212904

I built you up and I can tear you down

Fuck you Gary I fucking made your first 60fps live version and you ignored.me because I also because I made it I know how it works from insidie out and I study these type of things in my spare time and you are not a good person.and.I made the first version not you you idiot you better mark everru post from now on "this post is in debt to Jerry the anon who made the first 60fps live version of my shitty simulation and he said it was a box blur"

Its a box blur dude

>> No.12212922

>>12212904
I'm sorry I'm a new comer to all this. I don't know who you are or what you did. But why get so possessive about a box blur?

>> No.12212940

>>12212922
This is all stuff an experienced programmer could make in a few hours. at most.

>> No.12212952

>>12207609
Every single programming language is like that dumb fuck. If it doesn’t it’s doing trickery A.K.A. fractions and won’t be perfect in many circumstances definitely with pi which Gary uses in his equations. Now you can just circumvent this by increasing the precision which is possible on both excel and any programming language there exists on earth. Also every single language on earth also has the fraction thing python is an example that does and probably any other slightly high level language.

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>>12212952
there's truth to this. Like hit f12 right now and do .1 + .2 and that's what javascript thinks it is. what is it retarded?

>> No.12213011

>>12212894
>Help me please jerry

You can always email the IO on their site. They video and voice chat with people all the time and have no problem giving credit to people. But they are not a psychologist or therapist. They are an educational institute.

>> No.12213387

Continuous Automata Python

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283467097_CellLab-CTS_2015_a_Python_library_for_continuous-time_stochastic_cellular_automaton_modeling_using_Landlab

>> No.12213391

>>12213387

The library includes hexagonal automata

>> No.12213411

>>12206634
Reach the out of touch simulation

>> No.12213482

>>12212981
Look up floating point. There is a limited amount of ways to store decimals on a computer. If you can think of a better one go ahead

>> No.12213551

>>12213387
>>12213391
Ooooh could be useful if it supports having widely variable numerical values for each cell instead of just 1 or 0 like most of these things.

>>12213482
Guess we'll have to wait until quantum computers to get really fine accuracy.

>> No.12213556

>>12213551
Oops forgot to namefag. I'm Perry the Pessimist. And I forgot to sneer.

>> No.12213605

>>12213551
You can cheat the system to get better precision. You can basically have as much memory your computer has long integers and use them in fractions to get extreme precision more precision then you could ever want. Just requires more and more memory and computing time normal floats are good enough for 99% of things.

>> No.12213637

>>12213605
I'm looking up hexagonal automata on youtube and I always see things that are very lifelike with random rules. But it's like nobody tries having finely variable states for each cell and just a simple neighbor hood average. If you can get maxwell's equations to emerge. Then.. you're right there. You have a simulator that simulates all kinds of things.

>> No.12213655

>>12213637
You emulate the flower of life pattern in 2d or 3d. And you get life. I just have hunch that that's what happens.

>> No.12213678

>>12213637

Read the top comment on this automaton youtube video, "I was trying to make a blur filter and these wave patters appeared wtf" lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3XmRgP8Lww&t=1s

>> No.12213684

>>12213655

These particle life videos show OT's optimization principle. Watch how the particles optimize into cells using only attraction and repulsion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c5XaC5-DXg

>> No.12213687

>>12213684

Watch the whole thing. They even diverge into different "species".

>> No.12213695

>>12213687

Some "species" even become hunters and some become more like herbivores that avoid the hunters. I watched one of these for an hour once. It's all emergent from simple rules. There is another video where one of the emergent species begins reproducing through "cell" division, it's remarkable.

>> No.12213699

>>12213684
Jesus fucking christ. It's hard to say you're not really simulating living universes here with their own laws of physics. The golden ticket here is to see if we can make one that matches what happens in our universe. I think Gary somehow stumbled on the right path though.

>> No.12213717

>>12213699
>stumbled

No really stumbled. The concept came first after lots and lots of thought: simultaneity, conservation, symmetry, non-discrete, locality: the only thing that matches all those properties is a local averaging algorithm. When I calculated it the first time and saw the wave patterns there was nothing that could convince me otherwise, and the proofs have only grown from there.

>> No.12213725

>>12213699

Fractal. Now we are getting somewhere. We need to pull this guys code. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtUJlGSeV_s

>> No.12213730

>>12213725
Yup. I think whatever "this" is can be described by the word "fractal" also "quasicrystal".

>> No.12213731

>>12213699

Here is the one where the cells divide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=makaJpLvbow&t=2s

>> No.12213736

>>12213731

"Strong" ones live, "weak" ones die. Boom, evolution.

>> No.12213746

>>12213731

This one also replicates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT49wpyux-k

>> No.12213767

This is what quantum foam is supposed to look like? Remind you anything? It could have come straight from a 3d version of our automaton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xLuZNKhlY

People come here trying to snipe at our work, and they think they have found some major weakness (iTs A BlUr ToOl etc... etc... etc..., when really they just... don't get it. They don't even know what they don't know. It would be funny if not so distracting.

>> No.12213781

>>12213767
I mean the first time I saw a field of negative and a field of positive clash against each other I knew it wasn't a blur but it is sort of funny because it's too simple. Like you can literally make them fight each other lol.

>> No.12213783

>>12213767
Yeah but your work isn't consistent with any theories of quantum gravity

>> No.12213791

>>12213767

Or the'll be like ExCel BrO. Like, oookay, so I have a friend who builds missiles for Raytheon and you would be surprised what those guys use Excel for. Then I remember that I'm probably talking to a 13 year old and again... They literally just don't get it. Like, Einstein had just a fucking blackboard, and Excel is literally just a matrix calculator, so if they want to program this in fucking assembly to prove they are hot shit they can go right ahead.

>> No.12213792

>>12213781
I've also seen a bubble of positive trying push through a field of negative to reunite with another bubble of positive.

>> No.12213797

>>12213781
>it's too simple

So is evolution theory. The unified equation was predicted to be simple. Elegant. The top of top physicists were so busy trying to look smart that they forgot to actually be smart.

>> No.12213802

>>12213792
And then sometimes you can send in a little encouragement and goes "blooop" and makes it through.

>> No.12213803

>>12213783

Such as?

>> No.12213811

>>12213792

Me too. Quantum gravity. Clear as day. And it makes perfect fucking sense considering our equation derives effortlessly with Einstein equations.

>> No.12213813

A blur tool is just a really simple Universe simulator. God drew a smudge and then put his photoshop cursor over it and smudged it around: "Let there be light!"

>> No.12213815

Okay, which of you Anon is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjYyCns8cVE

>> No.12213818

>>12213813
The difference with photoshop is it averages together things on the RGB color spectrum. You put in positive and negative then you get the bloopy "clashing" and "movement".

>> No.12213822

>>12213815

This dudes trying to do exactly what we are doing. We should link up

>> No.12213826

>>12213815
ahahahahaha it could be like that thousand monkey effect or whatever. I can't remember the exact thing. But one monkey (or whatever species it was) learns something and all the other one's on the island somehow telepathically get the same idea.

>> No.12213829

>>12213818

Lot's of difference. I had no fucking idea how a blur tool worked when the mod of r/cellular_automata began using that "slur" against our project. He's jealous. He's beening trying to make a unified physics automata for years, it's all over his YouTube. So he banned our projected from r/cellular_automata, and is probably the stalker here too. It's pathetic.

>> No.12213835

>>12213826

Ideas are in the air. It's not like I wasn't inspired by people myself, and I have no problem saying who.

>> No.12213836

>>12213829
Is he the guy who says "hogwash" and "crackpot" and shit. LMAO. what a fucking loser. You hear me dude? You are a fucking worthless. Loser.

>> No.12213846

>>12213836

We should probably stop talking shit though. That's part of what derailed this project the first time it was on sci. Pissed off too many people.

>> No.12213850

>>12213846
I mean... does anyone even actually contribute? I feel like the best one is that based gary but yeah he seems really young. Made your thing in minecraft.

>> No.12213851

>>12213836

Here was a guy who was SO CLOSE to figuring it out, but he really did just use a blur tool!! HA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hm_tJn_BQ4

>> No.12213854

>>12213850

I think I stumbled upon Based Gary's real youtube once and yeah, he's like a 13 year old white rapper, computer guy I think haha. Seemed cool enough.

When "Peter" first posted the automaton after seeing it on reddit (and then inviting me to come here), there was around 20 people helping out at the peak.

>> No.12213864

>>12213836

No, there was legit a dude who was trying to deep search everything about me. It was creepy. as. fuck. Sending emails to people in my life and everything. I was close to filing a police report.

>> No.12213872

Give me a Quick Run Down (maybe even a long one.)

>> No.12213875

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0mLmVyWMk

>> No.12213876

>>12213864
He's a lazy fuck too. Wanted me to send the automaton to him. Why would he want it? I thought thinks it's nothing. I told him to make it himself.

>> No.12213883

>>12213872

We're unifying physics / Theory of Everything using computation.

>> No.12213889

Okay, so I'm not entirely back yet as I write this but I have to get something down, oh fuck it I'll do it tomorrow! I have so much to share from my trip hopefully I can remember it after a full nights rest, I'm just thankful to be alive, I'm a fucking idiot.

I just want to get this down, "do you want to be the conductor or the passenger"! This language is what stayed with me most from the trip and I'll talk about it tomorrow with my fellow psychonauts!

Trip Report

2:30 pm 300mg DXM HBR

3:30pm 600mg DXM Poly

4:30pm 300mg DXM HBR
The first 300mg gave me the classic light body feel and enhanced music appreciation but I felt like I had to have a breakthrough on DXM. The next 600mg of DXM Poly took forever to kick in (3 hours to start really feeling) and it still didn't help me get to the point where I felt like I broke through. The next 300mg of DXM HBR definitely shot me off!

The first sign that I was blasting off was a distortion in time that was extremely frightening. I'm telling you right fucking now that I would do something, like go to turn on the tv and as I would walk each step felt like an eternity or at least like I should had walked 10 steps in the time I managed to walk one step. This major time distortion lasted the whole way throughout the trip and it made the trip feel like an eternity (only lasted 5-6 hours but felt like at least a day).

At higher doses the euphoria completely disappeared, in fact I felt depressed once the final 300 DXM HBR kicked in.

I also began to lose the ability to formulate full sentences.

>> No.12213891

>>12213889
I still could think in complete coherent sentences but I just couldn't move my mouth or my brain just wouldn't let language out of my mouth.

The time distortion gave me some very interesting ways of looking at things. For example, I was listening to a music video that I had seen before and I felt like I was seeing and hearing things that I had never heard before. The drums and the piano notes would reverberate in ways I didn't think were possible, and the ability to just peer into my visual space as if I was god and I turned down the dial on time so I could go and evaluate everything in front of me.

As the effects were peaking the idea of human beings became very alien to me and as I struggled to turn my head to look at my trip sitters I got a very eerie feeling as if I didn't belong in this world.

I, unfortunately, had zero visual hallucinations, except for a distortion in the sense of size. My head would morph into either looking very large or very small.

There was so very frightening point along the trip where I felt like I was going to for sure die. I had the most intense burning sensation sheer from the middle pointer finger of my right arm, up my shoulder across my shoulder blades and down along my left arm and through the middle pointer finger of my left arm. As this was happening I thought to myself, "Oh my fucking god, hell is actually real, how is this possible!"

I'm going to continue to go back to the time distortion because it was just so fucking crazy. The audio hallucinations were definitely strong every single thing anyone would utter would repeat and echo and it really triggered the fuck out of me because I was jumping inside in frustration because everyone was moving and talking so slow. Certain noises would really trigger me, running water, loud noises, and noises that I had lost track of or noises that I forgot or didn't recognize (I tripped at home with a trip sitter I found at work.)

>> No.12213893

>>12213889

Wrong thread

>> No.12213895

>>12213891
There were some frightening thoughts that came into my head when I was peaking. I really felt like I had a strong connection with retarded people because I could NOT say anything I wanted to say because the neural connections to my mouth were erroring.

I also had some scary sensations of warmth. Several times throughout my trip I asked my trip sitter to take my body temperature. Each time it came back normal (97.5F) and this confused and frustrated me because at times I felt like I was on fire, fortunately, this feeling only came in short bursts throughout the trip.

During the trip, I believed that these reverberations or echos of sound were just branchings of time off in multiple directions (or at least the branching of sound of into those other times) and this would then mean that in these other branchings of time I could go off and do different things, for example in this alternative timeline I might have decided to instead of eating pizza at 8:30 pm in timeline a , I would be sleeping at 8:30 pm in timeline b. So, in short, I just really believed that we live in a universe that has multiple timelines in which we are just one experiencing one timeline of consciousness.

The intense portion of the trip only lasted for 4 hours (I metabolize DXM very fast), I only use DXM once a year at doses this high and every time I use I get a disgusting feeling even thinking about using it again, it's going to take a while for that feeling to leave (probably a year again).

As I was coming down, I was worried that I had a stroke because I saw that the right side of my face was drooping. I still don't really know if my mouth/face was actually drooping or my visual field was distorted but eventually, as the drug wore off, even more, my face didn't appear to be drooping.

Overall a very confusing, jumbled, and time-stretching in multiple dimensions experience.

>> No.12213904

>>12213893
simulation thread, drugs can be simulated

>> No.12213916

>>12213895
HAHAHAHAAHAHA can't make this up. i'm not reading all that shit. but there's a better chance this druggie accidentally has a better insight than 99% of the boring fucks on here.

>> No.12213919

>>12213916

Based. So is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unF2CVkMIiE

>> No.12213938

The intelligence of some people. Fuck sake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NDAZ5g4EuU

>> No.12213941

>>12213919
Oh I've seen that. It's more linked to neural networks than what we're doing here but it was freaky let me try to find the link. Or it could be tangentially related in someway.

>> No.12213955

>>12213941
https://distill.pub/2020/growing-ca/

This is creepy.

>> No.12213963

>>12213955
>https://distill.pub/2020/growing-ca/

How that's actually fascinating.

>> No.12213967

>>12213963
>How

wow

>> No.12213987

>>12213955

Great website. Thank you for sharing

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>>12213963
>How

nigga wat. Because of stuff like this.

>> No.12213994

>>12213993
oh fuck and it just grew more eyes without me doing anything on persistant mode.

>> No.12213999

>>12213993

It's like cancer v healing. You can toggle it. But sometimes it heals wrong. You can toggle it

>> No.12214001

>>12213994
But not to derail the thread. The only thing similar to our automaton is that it wraps around to the other side.

>> No.12214004

>>12213993

That website must be where the 2 minute paper guy gets all his ideas from

>> No.12214007

>>12214001

It's done using a neural network. Have you watched the Optimum Theory "digital lecture"? Seeing that website alone was worth the detour anyway

>> No.12214017

Going to bed. Thanks for chatting!

>> No.12214036

>>12214017
It was fun. Whoever you are. GAN. Ganondorf. God king.

>> No.12214050

>>12214017
Sweet dreams my knight

>> No.12214199

>>12213815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKy9__gsZP8

Ummm..... wow.

>Unrelated guy
>Different time
>Different programming language

(although I use JS also)

But I can tell that he is thinking along very similar lines and coming to similar conclusions.

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>>12212736
>mfw PLZ. There has to be at least 1 person on this board other than GARY who sees what i'm saying.

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>>12214226
Where they go wrong is they always oversimplify it like this where it's just 1 or 0 or -1.

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>>12214226
I-I-I'm not schizo.

I know there must be one person out there.
SPEAK UP YOU SHY FAGGOT.

>> No.12214258

>>12211661
>A simulated phenomenon cannot exceed the properties of the thing that simulates it.
Proof?

>>12212161
I think it would give you a solid foundation of your simulation results aligned with experiments of these exotic types of decay.

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>>12214244
>>12214244
The flower of life is also the most efficient packing pattern in the multiverse.

Like how do you not start with this to simulate any quantum scale cellular automata that's supposed to be points packed together in the most efficient way. How do you expect your points to hold themselves apart in a grid, they will obviously fucking collapse into this arrangement under the pressure. How much pressure? The pressure of the whole universe duh. Holy shit. You know I have a point. You know I have a point.You know it. You know it.

Taking the packing pill, the optimum pill, and the emergence pill at the same time.

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>>12214307
Fucking. Admit it, squidward. You know it's the truth.

>> No.12214383

>>12213791
it's easier to go from Excel to assembly, than you would expect.

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>>12209499
>>12213684
Alright Matrix theme for you. The fascinating part about the particle of life simulations are that they can get some pretty sophisticated results using finite computation by using the principle of wrapping to basically "curve spacetime" in on itself. Exactly as symbolized in this scene in the Matrix Trilogy where NEO gets trapped by the trainman in Mobil Avenue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov7lqOELjz0

I think unconsciously or consciously the Matrix trilogy has a lot of symbolism in it that reveals the nature of simulated universes... and possibly our universe?

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>>12212736
wait. WAIT. WAIT. WAIT. oh- OH?! HUH?!

what's this?
https://energywavetheory.com/subatomic-particles/

Someone made a theory that particles are standing waves? And.... they say the nodes would form TETRAHEDRONS in 3d almost exactly like what the fuck I was saying here?? :

>>12212736

HMMM... strange. And their diagram looks exactly like..... ehm...well you know if you've been keeping up.

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>>12214786
*gordon ramsay voice*

look. LOOK. you donkey.

https://quantumwavetheory.wordpress.com/tag/standing-waves/

They predict that highly energetic waves travel through adding and subtracting with other pockets of energy almost like... a certain gaussian blur simulator we all know and love?

>> No.12214879

>>12214786
>>12214812

Particles are an illusion caused by spacetime pretty doing cymatics in the perfect fluid. We can simulate it using extremely simple equations. Everything just emerges from that. That's why you get stuff acting like a particle and wave at the same time on the quantum scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oItpVa9fs

>> No.12215690

>>12214879

Fucking based

>> No.12216102

>>12206666
>that excel formula
kek reminds me of when my old boss made me make spreadsheets that did things spreadsheets aren't supposed to do. So many hacky solutions that probably aren't robust but got me a paycheck anyways.

>> No.12216393

>>12216102
>kek reminds me of when my old boss made me make spreadsheets that did things spreadsheets aren't supposed to do.

Yeah his name is God bro bro. Universe is an excel spread in wingdings font. https://youtu.be/QnjmJKMtB7g

>> No.12216403

>>12216102
>>12216393

But fo reel, Excel iz just a grid calculator. Returds who say "doesn't count cuz itz in Excel" are the same returds who say "doeznt count cuz u used a calculator"..

>> No.12216408

>>12216102
>>12216403

If you don't do all your calculations by abacus then you are a fucking pussy

>> No.12216436

>>12216393

That is impressive. Maybe one day you can run your simulation and have a display layer where you can drop down into your sim from a conscious "FPS" perspective.

>> No.12216447

>>12216436
Imagine worlds emerging and dropping down into the matrix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW-pDkDvcfE

>> No.12216457

>>12216447
Imagine you encounter little people in there.

>> No.12217099

>>12206634

Physicists: "the universe is like an infinite indiscrete fluid, like a perfect fluid". Like this: https://youtu.be/zAazvVIGK-c

Optimists: "agreed, the Universe is like an infinite indiscrete perfect fluid"

Physicists: "not like that!!!!! REEEEEE!!!!!!"

Optimists: "wha what? We are literally saying the same thing???"

Physicists: "but you did pay your tithe by spending $200,000 and 12 years on an Ivy League degree so you cannot speeeeakkkk!"

>> No.12217101

>>12217099
>but you did pay

Did not pay

>> No.12217108

>>12217099
>but you did pay

Did not pay>>12217099
>>12217101

Optimists: "but anyone can do science. Ben Franklin, America's first scientist never even graduated from elementary scho-"

Physicists: "Ree reeeee REEEEEEEEe!!!!!!!!'

>> No.12217149

>>12217099
>Constantly shows spooky wavy cellular automaton grid every time he talks about the higgs field.

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>>12217149
B-but n-no it's field but it's a particle.. it's the higgs boson you see. it's a field of things i-i-it's gotta be a THING. we spent all this money. WE NEED IT TO EXIST AND IT NEEDS TO BE A PING PONG BALL THING.

>> No.12217187

>>12217170
The god particle is a ping pong ball thing that let's things have mass and it's everywhere but we can't find it anywhere and everything is 11 dimensional strings. B-b-b-but you guys are the schizos.

>> No.12217231

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG_YtASz7gY

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>>12217231
oh.