/sci/ - Science & Math

but marijuana is harmless man its natural

and why are those chemicals dangerous?

not a stoner, just curious

Yeah but no stoner smokes the amount of weed the average smoker spokes tobacco.

I can't remember the source, but I read that the correlation between Marijuana and schizophrenia was stronger than the correlation between tobacco and lung cancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Earth
There's a tiny bit of Ammonia in the atmosphere bro.

>>1218120
Cyanide is a poison, it binds tightly to enzymes in the citric acid cycle (dont quote me on this) meaning that those enzymes are essentially deactivated, tl;dr, too much cyanide = you cant produce ATP.

>>1218147
there's also a tiny bit of chlorine gas, whats your point?

>>1218152
in the step where your cristae? take energy from hydrogen atoms, the cyanide goes through the same track but instead of energy being taken to make ATP the cyanide binds to the final cristae in each of the chains rendering the process in that mitochondria useless. more or less wasting energy in your body.

>>1218097
>>1218097
>>1218097


CITATION FUCKING NEEDED

>>1218097
>implying marijuana was made illegal for any scientific reasons
Step 1. Reach conclusions.
Step 2. Find evidence that supports said conclusions.

>>1218103
I know it's a joke, but damn the fact that there are actually people who say this pisses me off.

I tell them "Yeah, hemlock is natural too. So is milkweed. Why don't you go chow down on some of those."

>>1218165

http://www.physorg.com/news117116317.html

The only people wanting to legalize pot are potheads and those who want to become potheads.

Everyone else hates them.

>>1218203
And the people who don't care either way and believe if people want to do something to their body they can so long as it does not harm others?

>>1218212

We all know this is some pothead pretending to be a "neutral party" that thinks pot is okay. lmao.

>>1218213
Not a pothead, just logical and not retarded.

>>1218218

How is it logical to release a plague of drug addiction across our nation?

>>1218212
PROTIP: When you smoke weed, you hurt yourself and everyone around you. Its ILLEGAL for a reason, DUH.

You see how bad alcohol can be? Well its legal, which means that its not half as bad as marijuana, obviously. Think about it, if alcohol can destroy a family, what can marijuana bring ruination to? A neighborhood? A small town?

Think before you smoke, weed kills.

>>1218220
>marijuana
>addiction
do ho ho

>>1218144
It increases dopamine levels. Too much dopamine , you go schizo, too little, depressed. It only really affects people that were already susceptible, but that is a significant number of people, 2% or so.
In addition, tolerance of the drug will pretty much guarentee depression of some sort in the long run.

>>1218220

It is logical because the government wants people to do drugs. The more docile, high, and dumb the populace is the easier it is to further the agendas of multinational corporations.

They've just been waiting for a time in which they make more money with it legal than they do illegal. It is coming soon.

>>1218222
>implying alcohol shouldn't be banned

>>1218222

gotta be a troll...right guise?

>>1218223

You can get addicted to marijuana. I watched my brother deal with a marijuana addiction for several years. Sure, he didn't get the withdrawal symptoms you'd get from a drug like heroin, but it had a strong psychological pull on him. I remember several times him telling me to try and stop him from smoking because whenever he would get high he would come to the conclusion that he should be getting high anymore.

>>1218218
The problem with you being logical is that very few people are. Dumb kids will give in to peer pressure, people will break and want an escape from real life, and so on. Some people will recover, some will get hooked. And legalizing the drug is giving tacit approval of using it. Tobacco kills so many people it's ridiculous to think that it's legal, but people smoke it anyways.

When people are too dumb to protect themselves, it's the government's job to do it for them.

People smoke 3+ packs of cigarettes a day. Who the fuck could smoke more than half a pack's worth of mj a day?

Nobody. Comparing the levels of shit in each of them is as stupid as saying "there's a higher percentage of sugar in a breath mint than there is in a pizza, so eating a pizza is healthier"

>>1218097
(citation needed)

>>1218228
Fuck you, that's not funny.

My brother died of a marijuana overdose last fall.

Yeah. I bet you feel like a prick now.

>>1218241

It was already posted HERE:

>>1218188

http://www.physorg.com/news117116317.html
http://www.physorg.com/news117116317.html
http://www.physorg.com/news117116317.html

There, I did it 3 times so you stoner retards can actually keep up.

>>1218235
Better than physical AND psychological addiction like tobacco, which kills an un-fucking-believable amount of people. Try dying from pot. You'd need so much you'd need to physically crush yourself under the weight of it. Or just stuff your throat full of it and choke on it.

you can't OD on MJ, but it can sure as hell make you a fucking retard

>>1218243
I would say that the study is in question as it was no peer reviewed.
At all....

I've never smoked or drank but I think marijuana should be legalized so it can pay off California's debt. I really want to ban alcohol but I'm in a very small minority of people who want to do so.

>>1218245

You can overdose on anything given enough of the substance. You can overdose on strawberries or spinach if you eat enough (oxalic acid overdose which causes kidney failure).

ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide

NOT CARCINOGENS

Marijuana
-ammonia
-hydrogen cyanide
-nitric oxide

Cigarettes

Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic Acid
Myrrh Oil
beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol

>This just in, marijuana is bad for you!
Uh, well no shit, you're inhaling smoke.
>It's far worse than alcohol!
trollface.jpg

>>1218280
cont.


Nona-2-trans,6-cis-Dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-Ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-Ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
Oak Chips Extract and Oil
Oak Moss Absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic Acid (48%) And 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic Acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic Acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-One
1-Octen-3-Ol
1-Octen-3-Yl Acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl Isobutyrate
Oleic Acid
Olibanum Oil
Opoponax Oil And Gum
Orange Blossoms Water, Absolute, and Leaf Absolute
Orange Oil and Extract
Origanum Oil
Orris Concrete Oil and Root Extract
Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic Acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione

>>1218287
cont.

2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenenthyl Alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
1-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
1-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid
Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil

>>1218280

Ingredients of marijuana:

- green
- plant

You really do sound this stupid.

>>1218289
cont.

Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract
Sage, Sage Oil, and Sage Oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke Flavor
Snakeroot Oil
Sodium Acetate
Sodium Benzoate
Sodium Bicarbonate
Sodium Carbonate
Sodium Chloride
Sodium Citrate
Sodium Hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint Oil
Styrax Extract, Gum and Oil
Sucrose Octaacetate
Sugar Alcohols
Sugars
Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
1-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tochopherols (mixed)
Tolu Balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate

>>1218296
cont.


3,5,5-Trimethyl -1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
1-Tyrosine
delta-Undercalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone, 1
0-Undecenal
Urea
Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Valeric Acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute
Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Sherry
Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol
Yeast

>>1218280
>implying tobacco companies wouldn't do the exact same thing to marijuana if it were legalized

yay decriminalization!

How to troll and not only succeed but get great results:
A;Start a debate by saying something positive about religion

B:Start a debate by saying something negative about pot

>>1218301
>implying if they put all that shit in legal weed, that everyone wouldn't just buy it illgela again until they took it out.
It's a phonecall if you want it illegally.

>>1218310
Then why the fuck would you need to legalize it if everyone's just going to buy the "illegal version"?

>>1218330

Why can't we just grow it ourselves? Hell, I bet you most people will do that and I'm sure there will be mom & pop weed shops with only quality product that people will buy.

>>1218233
you've clearly never been to amsterdam

also, your argument is incorrect, comparing pot to smoking is legitimate because it is taking analagous causes of poor health and comparing in magnitude, wheras pizza and whatever have different sources of "poor health" and only compare one aspect of magnitude in a trivial manner.