/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12178004
sweden is the same as the 1st world (except shithole usa)
Sweden's weird policy has no correlation
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&data=deaths&location=France&location=Germany&location=Italy&location=Spain&location=United+Kingdom

>>12178004
Most of the vulnerable got killed in the first wave. It's death rate per capita is very high and reflects that fact.

>>12178004
Nope, Sweden is currently experiencing a second wave unlike never seen before. My swede friends (females and very attractive) have said people are quite scared and dislike the strategy the country is using.

>>12178004
I wonder if Sweden knows what it's doing. By acting rationally in this case they have effectively proven their liberal allies throughout the rest of the world a bunch of hysterical bumbling idiots. Liberals are quite vindictive and there is no doubt that at this instant they are seething uncontrollably thinking of ways to make Sweden pay for this.

>>12178008
Spain had higher death rate compared to Sweden, way stricter lockdowns and yet now it has not a couple of deaths per day, but a couple of hundreds which is seen on your chart.

>>12179135
What if world covid police allowed Sweden to have lighter concentration camp because Sweden already did enough damage with Greta?

>>12179140
There couldn't possibly be any difference at all between Spain and Sweden except their lockdown measures.

>>12179145
Indeed, so it looks like we have a good case of lockdown uselessness proof.

>>12179161
Please return to /pol/ and never return

>>12179125
Yes, they had a few fuckups with nursing homes. But that also means that death rate outside them is way smaller even during the peak.

>>12179166
I agree with you, why are you mad? With my >>12179140 post and your >>12179145 post we firmly established that those who will force a temporary lockdown to avoid deaths will get both deaths, lockdown consequences and a permanent lockdown.

>>12178004
Americope post #1408517 where they try to convince the rest of the world that they're not anymore oafish and filthier than a chinese bat butcher in a wet market.

>>12179184
Mad? I'm not mad, I'm just saying you should return to the board where your originate from, /pol/.

>>12179196
No, you should go to /pol/ instead because you don't like scientific comparison. Or maybe to reddit, that will fit you even better.

>>12179206
On the contrary, you're clearly retarded so will fit in there quite nicely. I'm going to stop replying to you now and I'll sage this post to stop bumping your cope thread.

>>12179214
That's what agreeing with some people does with them - appreciation destroys their sanity!

Yes, official number of cases is around 1%, but antibodies show that the real number is at least order higher. So it's natural that the disease stops.

Sweden's population is tiny compared to other European and Asian countries. Stockholm, its largest city has less than 1 million people. The virus does not have many urban areas where people are likely to be in close proximity with one another to spread. Compared to Spain which was brought up in this thread, Spain has 5 cities larger than Stockholm with Madrid having 6 million.

Also compare how Spain has 28 cities with a population over 200,000 while Sweden has 3. Sweden needs to be compared to its neighbors, not to countries with dense urban populations. Compared to Denmark, Finland, and Norway, Sweden is an abject failure in dealing with Covid-19

>>12179196
>>12179166
>how come you quetion thigns isnthead of hving faith in le science?? this is dangerous behaviour!!
you should go back the reddit. there is NO way you are not a reddit newfag, specially in this board that is the most reddit of 4chan right now

>>12178008
>not adjusted for population
wyd

Funny thing about lockdown data versus case rate is that it's dependent on people actually following the guidelines throughout. Hungary had a stay-home-or-go-to-jail rule, while report from the UK is that people would leave their pens then get shepherded back in by police even when the whole thing began. No one even seems to remember the two-meter / six-foot rule now.

>>12179456
it is adjusted per million habitants , stop this retarded cope,

>>12180060
Do you think restrictions make the virus more deadly, or fucking ehat?

Sweden course corrected and has stricter lockdown rules for months than we here in Finland.

Please stop getting all your information from /pol/.

>>12181180

>>12180060
Why do you people act like most /pol/tards didn't come from reddit?

>>12180087
>versus case rate
we're talking about death rate, not case rate
they've diverged quite a lot after spring in the 1st world.
US+3rd world, not so lucky.

>>12181235
it's public information ffs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#References

>>12180308
Yes. They don't stop the virus at it starts again right after the restriction lift, meanwhile population is weakened by homestaying, media terror and impoverishment from lockdowns.

Belarus had no lockdowns at all (instead it had war parades, pro-government and anti-government protests) and it has less than thousand deaths in total.

>>12179133
Lol skitsnack

>>12181344
...and they wouldn't lie, would they now.
just ask north korea

>>12181360
That's actually very easy to check!
1)Protesters managed to gather at least 20-30K of people for many days.
2)They actually claim that they had hundreds of thousands.
3)If first claim is true and corona has even 1% death rate, then surely they will have hundreds of dead from lung collapse. That's a huge uptick and they have no reason to hide it.
4)But if the larger number is true, and coronavirus alarmists are also correct about ~5% death rates, then the number of deaths will be literally in thousands! And that's not even counting the relatives/friends of the protestors.
So... where are all the dissidents dropping like flies?

>just ask north korea
But you believe China numbers, right?

>>12181380
more than Belarus, yes

>>12181397
So, just as you said, they don't lie and you should ask north Korea. Covid fans are also juche fans.

>>12181380
God, you can just tell that the author of this post really thinks he knows what hes talking about. I don't think I've ever seen a better fit for this picture than him.

>>12181426
That's correct, covidists are huge brainlet cocksuckers.

>>12181409
china is too open to hide it, dissidents can easily smuggle videos of a major pandemic if it existed. Hiding city activity is impossible compared to what goes on in prisons.
At one point china locked down 10% of the world population - it worked

>>12181439
>china is too open to hide it
Wow, covidists are true and unironical Chinese agents after all. Of course that was obvious all along, but thanks for another bright illustration.
But anyway... if Chinese can smuggle out videos then why can't all the Belarus dissenters do the same when they have a continuous protest filmed from all angles? You can capture a protest on video, but you can't do the same with thousands dead?

>>12180102
Flatly adjusting for 1 million inhabitants while ignoring population densities and urban regions that would cause higher spread in one country than the other is retarded.
The countries most similar to Sweden are are Norway, Denmark, and Finland.
Sweden has more deaths than all three combined by a large margin. How will you cope now, /pol/nigger?

>>12181457
Just another proof that muzzles kill.

>>12181458
>handkerchiefs cause sneezes
hurr durr

>>12181490
That's correct! Handkerchiefs don't prevent sneezes, just like masks don't prevent covid! You are actually clever deep inside, you just adopted the evil ideology, so it prevents you from accepting the truth you see.

>daily change ≠ number of new cases
>this whole thread

>>12181495
>thinks wordy diarrhea sounds clever

>>12181514
>handkerchiefs cause sneezes
Was your bright revelation.

>>12181431
Can you even read English?

>>12181530
Yes, my cockbrained friend.

>>12181560
Evidence is to the contrary. Enjoy your life of ignorance.

>>12181458
Go look at population density and hygiene standards of the Philippines. At this point you are either a retard or you are pretending to be one because you think you will piss people off.

>>12181564
Enjoy sucking the penis you have instead of brain as you profoundly illustrated.

>>12181593
A little triggered aren't you? Back to /pol/ :)

>>12181654
Penisbrained humanlet is offended ;-)

>>12181501
Daily change of what?

>>12178004
Yes.

>>12181591
It isn't about Philippines, but about four lowest countries in the chart.

>>12181795
Daily change of your diapers.

>>12181927
You wear diapers on your face, so you probably know it.

Argentina has lockdown after lockdown and it also has beautiful exponent.

>>12181912
>It isn't about Philippines, but about four lowest countries in the chart.
And one of those countries is very much unlike the other three in terms of COVID-19 deaths. So that's proof lockdowns save lives. Forget the masks, just lockdown!

>>12183725
>Forget the masks, just lockdown!
Fuck that, let the old people die.

>>12183727
God bless the Boomer Remover.

>there are people literally dropping dead on the streets of wuhan!
no one has seen anything remotely like this in the whole world, after all those months. stop this farce.

>>12183770
Honestly, China would be the type to neglect literally everyone else who needs medical assistance just to keep the pandemic numbers down. A little bit of that already happens elsewhere, wherever the health care infrastructure is under stress. In that way, we don't even know whom it's killed indirectly.

>>12178008
>sweden is the same as the 1st world (except shithole usa)


From https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/

>"“There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let’s say the virus caused you to go to the ICU [intensive care unit] and then have a heart or kidney problem,” she said during a Tuesday news briefing at the White House. “Some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.

>“The intent is … if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that,” she added."

IOW: if someone got mangled in a traffic accident, if the corpse tests positive for the Wuhan Lab Virus, then it's listed as a Covid-19 death.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/governor-questions-traffic-fatality-classified-covid-19-death/67-f77eeb4b-b002-40d3-bda8-675c1796df40

>>12183839
>if someone got mangled in a traffic accident, if the corpse tests positive for the Wuhan Lab Virus, then it's listed as a Covid-19 death.
Why do people keep propagating this myth?

>>12183870
They want to believe all the excess deaths are happening by magic instead of being caused by the virus.

>>12183870
Why do people think that screaming "DATS A MYTH!" automatically invalidates an argument.

>>12183888
>"DATS A MYTH!"
Why did you spell it that way?

>>12183727
1)Advise old people to be careful and to stay home
2)Introduce stricter regimes at places like hospitals and nursing homes
3)Let the rest of the population do whatever they want (in fact, encourage them to go out)
Enjoy the disease ending quickly with very little deaths.

>>12183839
it goes even further than this. they pay families to have them report covid19 as the cause of death of their deceased loved ones. even if it was not.

>>12183935
Source?

>>12183770
yep, the virus exists but it's literally just another flu that isn't really dangerous at all unless you're elderly

the videos in china of people collapsing and bodybags littering the streets were completely fake
china psyoped the whole world

>>12183939
so the families do not get cash directly, i got that wrong. the doctors get some expenses compensated when they report the death as covid. also the funeral costs are being covered.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6828?s=1&r=4

>>12183952
Doubt it. Of course China is glad to finally curb the Hong Kong protests, but every government also enjoys the new ability to stomp the population.

>>12183976
false death lawsuits when?

>>12184093
I don't think you could hold the government accountable for it. After all it's the families who decided to state a false cause.

>>12178004
No
>from neighboring country.

>>12183952
>china psyoped the whole world
You mean gullible retards desperate for a happening from /pol/.
Everyone was laughing at them then, and the complete 180 they took into denial is just as funny and has outed them as unprincipled reactionary faggots incapable of rational thought.