/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12177226
I can't tell if I'm more excited for snate to have a perfect landing or for it to make a fucking crater in the Texas coastline. That 20km flight is going to be hype either way.

>>12177226
Guys these assheads just coasted into my flight path. They didn't even hail me and tall comms are dark. Gonna have to tell these fuckers to get fucked in person.
Signing out for EVA.

>off course by a couple of million miles
>out of coffee
What do

>>12177241

I'm curently readingRendesvous with Rama. Rama is a tubular space ship that contains a multitude of cubic kilometers of atmoshpere while rotating along it's long- axis providing gravity that way. Now I was wondering if you took a motorized glider or a MMU out and rode exactly at it's centerline, where there's zeroG, how unintuitive would that be, considering that even small errors would increasingly pull you off course?

Also considering if the actual atmosphere was pressed against the walls, there wouldn't even be air resistance along the centerline, comparable with being really high up on earth.
Then I was thinking that the lack of which wouldn't even cause spin on you and that being the thing that causes you to drop opens up a whole range of questions. If there was no air, I asume it would be like entering a Station in Elite Dangerous without spin assist. Let's talk about (fun) side effects of gravity through centrifugal force.

>>12177241
Replace coffee with cargo (picrelated)

What is the best KSP mod?

the emergency crew vehicle for each crew member on the ISS will now always be the vehicle that they rode up on
>>12177250
there would be plenty of air pressure in the center, anon

>>12177260
the uninstaller

>>12177260
RO/RP-1 and the 30 or so associated mods

Soyuz lunar lander when?

>>12177261
Air has weight. Air pressure is air sitting on air weight. A centrifuge forces air out and a large enough enclosed station will eventually face vacuum in it's center unless you keep increasing the density which is at it's highest at "ground" level. Similar to our atmosphere, anon.

>>12177262
You should leave.

>>12177270
yeah but it would need to be hundreds of kilometers in diameter
remember: there's no spin gravity in the very center, so any air molecules that end up bouncing up there will stay there and collect as pressure

>>12177271
no, you should
go back to whence you came

>>12177250
The series is fantastic. I'm about 2/3 through the 3rd book.

>>12177266
Already here

>>12177274
That's fundamentally false.
The center is infinitely small and surrounded by micro gravity. Consider that the spin motion is continuous and like viscous clutch fluid the air picked up this motion via drag with the surface

>>12177276
Yea it's pretty neat. Funnily enough I stumbled upon it through a videogame review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMi_m9-e9MU

How does Boing cope?

>>12177270
First for double falcons

>Elon telling covid vaccine cunts to fuck off and that he and his kids won't be getting it under any circumstances

Based and confirmed my decision to dump money into starlink IPO.

>>12177321
>Elon “Covid will be gone by end of April” Musk
I think he’s the messiah of space but that was a pretty fucking stupid claim

>>12177326
>around a million dead people because of le coof (supposedly)
>around 200k people die every day globally
>in almost a year this faggot virus has only killed five days worth of people, the median age of which is 87 and over 90% of which had serious co morbidities.

Might as well be gone because its a fucking joke to start with. I tested positive for the killer disease, I was in bed for two days and then went on with my life, have unironically had worse consequences from eating badly cooked chicken.

leaky Russian space modules.

Covid 19
>never let a crisis go to waste. Even if you have to invent one or greatly magnify one.

We got a new strain of am existing disease. It was exploited as a political reset button and social conditioning exercise.

>>12177349
fuck off this is a spaceflight thread

>>12177326
>Caring about Coronavirus

Pretty fucking stupid

What sort of technology would be used in Martian space suits? I strongly doubt that standard EVA spacesuits are optimized for the Martian environment, and Apollo suits would be better but of course old and bulky.

>>12177431
skintight mechanical counterpressure suits with guaranteed cameltoes

>>12177321
>>Elon telling covid vaccine cunts to fuck off and that he and his kids won't be getting it under any circumstances

source?

>>12177454
some random spotify podcast i think. elon got mad a few times and threatened to end the interview. good stuff

somebody posted atlas able in the last thread and I just had to do this when my girlfriend said that it wasnt a q-tip but a douche.

>>12177490
damn didn't realize I tore it when i made it wider. have a fix.

ESA will overtake SpaceX

>>12177487
>I think
>Yet I can give you these very specific anecdotes

>>12177332
I also survived a car crash, and people seem to think you should pay attention driving, lol such idiots!
Fatal accidents do not really exist, it's all propaganda!

>>12177511
i dont save links to lefty journo podcasts. find it yourself you lazy fuck

>>12177525
it doesn't exist because you made it all up

>>12177585
well done, detective

>>12177226
Guess I made it just in time for the lift!

*Makes Life Multiplanetary*

>>12177687
Any picture from the 90s to the early 2000s of nerdy white dudes forming teams to make stuff warms my heart.

>>12177260
MechJeb
Fight me.

>>12177260
I'm extremely basic (and made the mistake of updating past 1.8.1), so I only have Kerbal Alarm Clock. It's nothing major but it's the kind of mod for me.

>>12177781
Why was that a mistake??

>>12177260
RSS+RO+Principia also known as full autistic mode

>>12177266
After India lands pajeets there.

>>12177785
I don't keep close track of mods and didn't care at all until recently, but I'm pretty sure a few mods stopped development there.

>read old novel set in era where the jovian moons, Mars, Venus and Mercury have been colonised, formed a federation and are mad because Earth won't share resources
>asteroids and Moons apparently lack useful heavy elements

old science fiction can be pretty funny, for fucks sake Mars alone is covered in iron.

*hop*

>>12177839
Mars is red because its covered in iron rust.

>>12177844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90jVGPrdB4

>>12177844
Will it have 3 engines?

>>12177849
subtle

>>12177858
Yes

Starship comments from a podcast episode previously linked in a past thread:

"I think we may be able to put people on it(Starship) as soon as 2 years from now, possibly. (...) but I think it will be safe for people probably in 2 years and definitely in 3 years."

starting around 24 mins or so

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sway/e/78078864?autoplay=true

>>12177260
>>12177264
>>12177813

RO is such a pain in the ass to get working but when it works it's the best vidya ever made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS3XCbYvUKg

>>12177286
>Funnily enough I stumbled upon it through a videogame review
it war Ross, wasn't it?

>*lands on the moon without having to spend another $20 billion in r&d in the year of our Lord 2020*

>>12177250
>Now I was wondering if you took a motorized glider or a MMU out and rode exactly at it's centerline, where there's zeroG, how unintuitive would that be, considering that even small errors would increasingly pull you off course?

>>12177286
>The center is infinitely small and surrounded by micro gravity.

If the ship is coasting through space then wouldn't there be microgravity everywhere except on the rotating inner surface? As long as you're flying free and not touching the rotating body of the ship then it seems like you'd have no forces acting on you, even if you're well off the center axis. If you threw something straight up from the "ground" it would still come down though.

>>12177917
Unfortunately there are no existing production lines for it today.

>>12177925
>float in through the door at the end of the tube
>get plastered against the side of your office
Bets on when the first time this happens is?

>>12177844
Is there a date on it?

>>12177882
>we gotta keep up our birthrate... because then we won't have people
Um Elon thats why we have immigration.

More topically, does anyone know when the next falcon launch is? I was under the impression that Results Over Rhetoric kept scrubbing so spacex cant launch.

>>12177882

lines up with what Shotwell told avweek

"We've learned so much in the last six years, I'm sure we will have people flying in Starship in less than six years. It would be a major company fail if we're not flying people in like half that amount of time or less."

>>12177937
starlink and gps3 both scheduled for launch tomorrow

>>12177275
Pathetic try

>>12177884
https://youtu.be/CHqDG5byvZA
Indeed it is the best game around after few days of building the install

>>12177326
>still pretending there's a pandemic happening
Fuck off meme-flu

If Starship is wildly successful, then what would realistically happen to the old giants of spaceflight who primarily profit off of indefinite development? Would they back out of an industry that they can't compete with? Would the US government bail them out? Would they shift their spaceflight focus to something that SpaceX can't do with Starship?

>>12177981
My best guess is that NASA is just going to turn into the FAA basically. Companies like boing will either step up their game considerably (unlikely), or just stick to aviation.

>>12177981
Lockheed will have to hope their Starship knockoff works.

Rarely discussed LKS plane launched by Proton rocket.

>launch Dragon XL based hydrolox boosters/tugs into orbit

What could you achieve with such things?

>>12177927
Literally just use the one in your pic

>>12178017
t. the NASA manager responsible for proposing that NASA raid museums for RS-25s to drop into the ocean

>>12177986

Feds will seize SpaceX's assets on their behalf on the basis of a fabricated scandal.

>>12177882
Man, Elon got pissed when she asked him whether he wanted to pay for employees who decided to self-quarantine.

About the manned spaceflight thing he‘s been way off about that already at last year‘s presentation. I think he expects there to be a point very soon where they can just do daily testflights to iron out everything very quickly. But I doubt it‘ll be that easy. They don‘t even have the infrastructure for that.

>>12177925
>As long as you're flying free and not touching the rotating body of the ship then it seems like you'd have no forces acting on you
Well except for all the wind

>>12178051
https://inthesetimes.com/article/elon-musk-spacex-tesla-falcon-heavy-launch
>Musk has invested an awful lot of public money into making those dreams a reality. But why should Americans keep footing the bill for projects where only Musk and his wealthy friends can reap the rewards?
>When companies like SpaceX make it big, they’d be obligated to return some portion of their gains to the public infrastructure that helped them succeed, expanding the government’s capacity to facilitate more innovative development.
>And if you’ve watched any number of big-budget sci-fi productions over the last several years, it’s not hard to imagine Musk’s Martian colony spinning off into some Elysium-style eco-apartheid

>>12178073
>But why should Americans keep footing the bill for projects where only Musk and his wealthy friends can reap the rewards?
WHAT IS COMMERCIAL CREW
>Elysium-style eco-apartheid
Put this author against the wall and make some new fertilizer out of them.

>>12178073
>they’d be obligated to return some portion of their gains to the public infrastructure that helped them succeed
>what is starlink
>what is any future endeavor to come out of orbital space flight that will potentially drastically impact the worlds economy and energy concerns
>what is fundamentally altering a small niche industry into an industry that could support hundreds of millions of jobs potentially
>what if this sci-fi movie i watch become REAL?!?!?
God please just shut up

>>12178073
>But why should Americans keep footing the bill for projects where only Musk and his wealthy friends can reap the rewards?
I hate "journalists" who can't do the most basic research.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20170008895
>The most significant improvement, beyond even the improvements of 2-3X times reviewed to here, was in the development of the Falcon 9 launch system, with an estimated improvement at least 4X to perhaps 10X times over traditional cost-plus contracting estimates, about $400 million vs. $4 billion.
Even if falcon 9 has been completely tax payer funded, SpaceX saved ~1.5 billion compared to if other contractors had been building the same vehicle.

>>12178073
>When companies like SpaceX make it big, they’d be obligated to return some portion of their gains to the public infrastructure that helped them succeed

>“I want to be clear: NASA can share all of our IP with anyone that NASA wants,” -Musk

>>12178073
Nooo not enough 50IQ niggers on Mars!!!!

>>12178108
>I hate "journalists" who can't do the most basic research.
I think that's all of them now, it's disadvantageous to take your time and write a well-researched report when your competition is shitting out trash articles like a machine gun.
It's like some parody of natural selection pruning all but the worst 'journalists'.

>>12178051
how unfortunate

>>12178122
It's all about ad clicks, and will continue until major OS vendors start shipping ad blockers installed and enabled by default.

>>12177981
I'm sorry but starship will never be that successful , were talking about people who had no trouble killing and torturing millions of children to make a few million dollars more (the industrial military complex officially recognized by us presidents look it up ignorant right winger)

This is one lone adult man who stands between them and literally tens of billions of dollars of profit per year. Yeah no don't get too attached to the musky

>>12177500
in the junk yard, sure

>>12177260
Alt f4

>>12178179
Dilate.

>>12178183
>he never made it past LKO

>>12178192
angry right winger detected, im not transexual-american by the way, you should never discriminate. Thats just a sexual orientation which is never evil, nothign about sexualtiy is evil.

but being facist-capitalist-renter-or imperialist are objectively inmoral, so sorry to destroy your ass in an argument, im sorry youre objectively wrong and im right.

>>12177994
How was it called again?

>>12178196
Christ

>>12178196
Stop role-playing, this is an sfg thread

>SN8 is on the test stand
HOP
WHEN

Jim, I love you, but you need to quit plastering everything in the worm.

>>12178179
>I'm sorry but starship will never be that successful
Why not? It fills a role in the industry that has been left open for decades and no one else is expecting to meet for years (except maybe Blue Origin's New Glenn depending on its price).
>This is one lone adult man who stands between them and literally tens of billions of dollars of profit per year.
There's also his companies, and various agencies who directly benefit from said companies. SpaceX is also a very public company (in terms of its presentation, not stocks) so any attempt by the US government to suppress it will immediately be noticed by the larger American public, and Americans despise the government directly meddling with companies.

>>12178217
Those are the Artemis 1 SRBs, right? I like it.

>>12178196
lol dumb nigger

>>12178213
>HOP
YOU MEAN *FLOP* WHEN

>>12178213
You never realize how big starship actually is unti you put people next to it

>>12178217
No, and go fuck yourself

>>12178231
Imagine the amount of working space if wet workshopped.

>>12178229
no, hop. No nosecone = no flop

>>12178225
they've got a worm on the elevator in the 39A tower that actually looks pretty good but worm-on-white is the international symbol of a stagnating space program

What was your favorite design? For me it’s the 2016 ITS.

Idk... aside from my hate for SLS I’m TRYING to look for redeeming qualities. I guess the crew cover looks cool with all the logos slapped on. But it just looks like a shitty extended rocket. All orange. Nothing cool to look at. It’s fucking ugly overall if I’m being honest

>>12178266
The 2018 designs certainly have the most fictional precedent.

>>12178296
Forgot pic

>>12178301

>>12178266
ITS was magical, but at the time it seemed too "out there" for me. For me, the 2017 BFR was when I realized how serious SpaceX is about their project.

>>12178266
I don't know if I like the white or stainless steel better. They are all good for different reasons; but ITS is probably my favorite. Anyone have a render of ITS in stainless?

>>12178266
I honestly like the current one. Feels almost like a fat crossbow bolt.

>>12178201
christ can't help you as he is a med up lie to control idiots, would you like to consume some reality?

>>12178209
he started the unrelated questioning, if you insist on keeping the unrelatedness then you are wrong not me. Please dont asnwer unless you enjoy unreletadesnes

>>12178226
no to all
no lol
nothing i said is funny, its sad that you are not instantly opposed to facism capitalism and imperialism
not dumb im 10 trillion orders of magnitude smarter than you
and im not a black african american fighting partner which is hwo suoyoushould denominate them

any other question fo rme to buttdestroy you racist rightwingfireors? learn the objective errors of your bad way and remember, you started the off topic, im merely infomrming you of objective reality,

Reminder to report schizo-posts

>>12178312
2016 ITS was awesome but goddamn it get just too big to be real. Especially during their presentation when Elon said the Big CF Lox tank they made got to like 2.3 bar and that was this huge success.

I’m super skeptical about the bellyflop though. 2017 BFR was my favorite by far.

>>12178338
why you do dis? we just wan to be leff alone. go shitpost some where else.

Is it still alive?

>>12178377
No

>>12178377
The project is still in stasis, but the engine tech is steadily being worked on.

>>12177250
Didn't one guy who smuggled in a super light bicycle fly in the middle? Anyways, excellent read, really loved it. Too bad it was an one off.

>>12178349
We're finally about to get some real answers at lesat. By the end of the year either SN8 will have failed the landing maneuver and everyone's going to have to scale back our hopes for a 2021 orbital flight or it will have succeeded and suddenly we'll all be living on Elon time.

>>12178217
In 50 years, we'll look back on the worms everywhere and remember Jim. That way, we won't forget him.
But goddamn, having that big and sideways on an SRB is even uglier than the racing stripe concept.

>>12178266
Starship '18 > ITS > BFR '18 > Starship '19 > BFR '17

>>12178179
>Starship isn't gonna be successful
Cargo payloads for customers isn't the point of starship lmao, it's main goal is launching Starlink payloads and sending cargo to Mars, commercial payload is in excess of what it's already designed to do
Starship doesn't even need to be profitable because Starlink will generate such a fuck huge amount of money, and even then, sub 10 million per launch could make starship cheaper than an Electron, which is a fucking smallsat micro rocket lmao

>>12178338
Based schozo

>>12178412
(just gonna tack this onto my last post so I don't post two negative replies to the same post)
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/artemis-i-rocket-and-spacecraft-receive-worm-welcome
There's a few renderings in here. Pic related reminds me of the positioning of the logo on the Falcon Heavy side boosters, which I'm not really a fan of.
The fairing also has both the meatball and worm both visible at an awkward angle from each other, plus the ESA logo because it's not fully an American rocket.

>>12178423
whatever, if it threatens people who objectively prooven they dont care about kililng babies cowardly (like all american military) and youre literally making them lose literally tens of literally literal billions of literally literal literally dollars

what do you think is gonna happen? this isnt disney world country no more sonny boi

>>12178442
Fuck off fag

you guys haven't forgotten about me have you? i promise not to scrub again

>>12178450
How many tonnes is Jeff bringing to LEO these days?

>>12178442
> whatever, if it threatens people who objectively prooven they dont care about kililng babies cowardly (like all american military) and youre literally making them lose literally tens of literally literal billions of literally literal literally dollars

>>12178266
Watching Quatermass II recently (And it's film counterpart) and its amazing to think that the most advanced rocket being built at the moment is closer to fiction than any reality we imagined.

>>12178446
nopey nope nopeyr ;) any more lame violence attempt to censor assualt me (while pathetic humiallting yourself) that results in me victorypeacewining all the over you??!?!?! ;) ;) ;) ;)?? huuuh little boi (hehe le sarcasmé

>>12178442
You sound like a Chud

>>12178464
Also would a moon colony of pressurised domes, carried up on nuclear powered rockets be viable in the next 50 years?

>>12178442
The military is not a money making organization anon. And neither do they build their own rockets.

>>12178471
The nuclear powered part no. The colony part yes, at least from a technological viewpoint. It may not be financially or politically viable however.

>>12178460
so far this year, he's brought 0 tons to low earth atmosphere

>>12178442
oof chud alert?

>>12178471
It would have been viable by the 1980s if we cared to try but throwing away a NERVA with every launch would be a lot of wasted money

>>12178442
The military would happily use spaceX rockets lmao, they contract out rocket dev and use to a bunch of companies, like ULA, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, SpaceX, etc etc etc
The military doesn't lose money on SpaceX, only a bunch of other small, """"underfunded"""" aerospace companies that make most of their money in weapons and airplanes, not rockets lmao
KYS Chud

>>12178450
whoooooooo are you
who who
who who

>>12178465
>>12178442
>>12178338
>>12178196
Fuck off

>Traditional aerospace corporations
>Blank checks since WW2 no matter how bad they screw up
>This guy appears who if wins will make something that makes our rocket completely obsolete making it impossible for the goverment to justify giving us billions of dollars
>we are a weaposnm manufacturers
>we killed kennedy
>we started coups
>we do whatever the fuck we want
>Oh so elon musk is gonna put us out of our 10.000.000.000 dolar profit per year business? well lets let him, he must have earned it, guess its time to get a day job as a mcdonalds manager huh guys?!?!?1

the absolute state of the objectively wrongs

>>12178505
nope, you triggered boy. jealous im winnering (le master peotword inventor (le secon ( le third (le fourth parenthesis, you wouldnt even be able to understand a fifth level master harvard literature free styilin class and youo think you are even within 10 levesl of superiority all of my hahahs seirrrs, non closing the parenthesis, so that your weak oldpseak mindlearn

anyways, wehre was i? ah yes, winning lal over you ;) ;); ););););)

>>12178511
Please call the emergency line and advise them as to what drugs you've taken.

>>12178506
Most of Aerospace profits don't come from rockets retard, SpaceX doesn't make weapons, and isn't a disruption to the military industrial complex
>Inb4 muh civilian rocket for launching people into space and satellites into or it somehow equals an f-35 fighterjet

Who let the crazed retard in here?

>>12178529
Maybe it's senator Shelby lel

>>12178254
It was on the DM-2 first stage.

>>12178531
Let's find out!
Ahem
"ORBITAL REFUELING DEPOTS"

>>12178491
>470 foot tall nuclear Saturn
They stole this from us.

>>12178542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDHxXUE1_SU

They stole the future from us friends.

>>12177897
Yea, yes it was Ross.

>>12177925
Right so far, but now fill the body with something that isn't vacuum. For example, make a banana-cherry juice the right way, Then spin the glass on that one axis where it doesn't make a huge mess and you will see the juice starting to slowly rotate as well. That's because of friction. Now even if your station is a bland empty shell, the air will start to press against the outer hull and spin with the structure.

Btw, would it change your flight characteristics in deep space, if you filled your ship with air?
Air is only weightless on earth, right?. And what about helium or hydrogen?

>>12178518
knowing more than you about art poetry history decency and lady gettin = lolololo you must be drugged

only right wingers

>>12178598
You would float to the ceiling of space through the aether.

>>12178610
Well that's gay...

>>12178615
It's a free ride to the top of the universe so long as you lithobrake on God's ceiling fan.

>>12178598
>Air is only weightless on earth
Air isn't weightless on earth.

>>12178254
The regal stagnation happened when they got rid of the worm.

>>12178598
at no point in your incoherent ramble did you aproximate a rational thought. I award you no points and may god have mercy on our souls.

sex in space. who dun it

>>12178179
>>12178196
>>12178338
>>12178442
>>12178465
>>12178511
>>12178607
Why yes, I do assist the moderators by making a list of the ban-able posts. How could you tell?

>>12178675
because right wingers bitch and moan until they can win in a coward way.

PLEASE MOMMMY MODERATOR MAKE THE BAD MAN GO AWAY, I CANT FACE HOW HE FORCES ME TO FACE REALITY

its delicious to know ive won
like, i literally obliterated your ass

if this were a war it would be a trillion nuclear missiles against a paralyzed ant

>>12177226
Fuck y'all whypipo racists and shit
https://www.sapiens.org/culture/space-colonization-racism/

>>12178662
it's nice they can use sls to get to the visitor's center since that's the only place it'll ever send anyone

>>12178671
see pic

>>12178662
it's nice they can use sls to get to the visitor's center since that's the only place it'll ever send anyone

>>12178671
see pic

>>12178695
This looks like a kids drawing

>>12178671
The couple that secretly got married right before their shuttle flight 100% banged in space. Nobody would pass up that kind of opportunity.

>>12178675
Remember to select "this post is extremely low quality"

X37-C when?

>>12178702
who dis

>>12178706
because theres no "i got my ass utterly destroyed to me by a harvard god and there's no amount of cream to make it better"

I love how right wings think they are brave
no no
right wing is the idiot who cries for his mommy in the corner and only fights when its 50 against 1
left wing is the muscled guy who beast you up with courage and smart words

ownerered ;9
god damn yeah is it a god day to be soviet master clas (hay not the classic rusia soviet but the master lgbt world worker superiority soveit

Is realism overhaul worth the setup and load times and crashes and general shitfuckery? Launching a lander all the way to the Mun on a stockalike Agena-on-an-SRB seems a little lame. To be fair, it was just a 1.5 ton lander (for a LOR profile Gemini mission)

>>12178675
haha cry more faggot

>>12178695
let me shorten that article a bit
>I have yet to realize my childhood dream of traveling to space, so nobody else should either.
Done. That's it. That's the entire article.

>>12178721
are you still going?

>>12178722
In my opinion it is but you can also do JNSQ +BDB and get mostly realistic launch vehicle performances for less hassle.

>>12178734
going to what?
beat you?
nopey nope, i already accomplished that ages ago

also please stay on topic, and yes i am on topic because im just correcting an idiot right winger sissy

its hialrious, i could beat you to a bloody pulp and you could do nothing but cry

>>12178737
>JNSQ +BDB
This. However, I do feel a lot less creative with BDB, despite how amazing the parts are. It’s probably because I can’t bring myself to mix systems that wouldn’t go together in real life.

>>12178737
I think I was using the Bluedog Agena D and a Titan SRB. I'll install JNSQ next time I'm on, thanks fren.

>>12178734
Please stop replying to him, it just eggs him on. Mods will wake up eventually, ignore him in the meantime.

>>12178752
>>12178734
reply to confirm for the 1.000.01283901283901283 times that im 12389012389012 times better than you

and that no girl has ever touched you

haha
right wingers
we dont need you to reply for you to confirm that

i love how afraid of me you all are, OHH PLEASE MODS, OH DONT REPLY, OR WAHT WILL WE DO

it was hilarious playing with your minds, being superior is a gift

bye little retards, your mods save you from my superiority once again, too bad 10000 of you arent even able to handle 1 of me without cowardnes

reminder: reply to confirm my superiority
thank you little bithc ass sweellas

>>12178752
i will reply whatever i want to whoever i want

>>12178756
keep fighting le institutional power friend, show those right wingers that the entire global corporate kleptocracy and media complex are truly the underdog

>>12178756
>reminder: reply to confirm my superiority

>>12178767
LOL, BASIC LOGIC AND YOU LOST, I WENT ALL HARVARD ON YOU WHEN KINDERGARTEN WOULD HAVE BEEN SUFFICED TO ENOUG

god is good to be superior, life is good little fellas, i almost feel sorry to you, but in the end, the objective truth is that oyu should build a monument to me for acknolodging you exist

stop bothering me idiot, i ORDER you to not reply, your superior is ordering you.

so what do you gain? confirm youre ifnerior and disobeying an roder from an alpha???

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>>12178775
lol ok commie

Soooooo warp drives when?

>>12178780
literally never

>>12178491
Would Musk ever be allowed to build a NERVA type engine (or perhaps a liquid reactor)? Suppose no government would be comfortable with a private company building a nuclear rocket.

>>12178788
Im not so sure-it would be regulated out the ass, but i think they could be persuaded as to the utility of such systems.

>>12178788
>allowed
>government
I feel like you're missing the point of Mars. What are they gonna do, send the Space Force to stop him?

lol I recognize this poster

>>12178791
If we extract Thorium from the moon (not sure if Uranium is present), we could build nuclear rockets on the Moon and Mars. It would certainly allow us to transport larger amount of materials than we could from earth.

>>12178788
BWXT, another private company, is already building a nuclear thermal rocket for NASA, a NERVA/Timberwind successor. The problem is not whether or not it will allow a company to develop nuclear technology (it will), but simply that the government makes developing nuclear technology such a slog that most companies who could do it don't do it, or do it so slowly that entire human lifetimes have passed by nuclear technology which could have been developed to maturity in ten years.

>>12178779
another confirmation of my superiority
the rules are simple anon
if you reply you confirm my superiority.

wanna play again? its reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally simple right winger

as simple as your hilarious level of butthurtines

really use all of your right wing neurones on this one little boi ;) ;) ;)

>>12178779
Mayakovsky would be proud his memes live on hundred years later.

>>12178795
>Musk colonizes Mars
>immediately starts building nuclear rockets to colonize the belt and beyond

>>12178796
Oh these are the TRISO guys, they do good work. This might pan out.

>>12178795
that would be fantastic, removing the main disadvantage of nuclear, there's no eco worries if all the material is processed off earth

>>12178803
Jeez the debate really broke your guys' programming didn't it?

>>12178810
Isn't that Bezos' logic for his Moonbase Amazon and O'Neil Cylinder memes? I buy it.

>>12178814
He's supposed to be yelling about politics on /tv/ right now but he got lost on the way there.

>>12178810
But then you have to transport atomic fuel with rockets, tens of tons of it at a time. Rockets are not perfect and the media will push lurid pulpy stories of widespread nuclear contamination.

Ocean uranium harvesting is coming along nicely.

>>12178819
>>12178814
so
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im crying of joy


round 4, reply if youre inferior

>>12178704
>>12178729
It also gave us another whitey on the moon/ billions for space pennies for the hungry pic.
>an astronaut only costs $4 more than a starving nog

>>12178640
So basically we found lighter than air propulsion...

>>12178807
I'm sure it will, but more progress into space will be made with conventional bipropellant rockets by the time it comes to fruition. This has been the most glaring flaw of nuclear technology, even with mature designs filing the necessary paperwork, jumping through the necessary hoops, obtaining the necessary nuclear material, and painstakingly constructing nuclear fuel all while adhering to multiple thousands of pages of regulations takes so much time that cruder, less efficient technologies will leap ahead in practical application.
It's the same reason why Nuclear makes up only about 20% of the US power grid and hasn't moved from that point in decades.

Cowardice and excessive timidity have caused it to become a stagnant technology. I think at this point we might just leap straight past it to reactor powered magnetoplasma drives without a nuclear thermal rocket ever becoming relevant on the large scale.

>>12178810
>>12178815
If we move all industry off earth, we can certainly make it an idyllic world. I doubt we'll stray far from it, however essential it is we colonise other worlds, the beauty of the Earth is unlikely to replicated nor experienced elsewhere for some time.

>>12178822
>nuclear contamination
Oh no, we accidentally flew a reactor into the side of Olympus Mons! Now it will be exactly as habitable as it was before!

>>12178822
no, the idea is to do all of the processing mining and harvesting off earth, any accident is meaningless against the background radiation of space

>>12178796
Could a methalox reactor ever work?

Please delet thread and start a new one

>>12178747
I felt the same way the first time I ever tried using BDB but it would turn out that I was actually doing some different designs but they still looked "real" compared to stock rockets.

I think my biggest issue with JNSQ these days is that playing with unlimited engine restarts feels kinda cheaty but I can't help myself when I reach orbit with some extra delta V and it's time to start my departure burn...

>>12178748
Titan SRB + Titan Second Stage was a real proposal to replace Atlas/Delta, not sure why they never went through with it since it would have been cheap as hell to put together.

>>12178834
Why would you use a bipropellant in an NTR? In theory literally any working fluid should work but lighter fluids get to higher velocities and thus higher efficiencies.

>>12178663
Learn reading lol fgt.

>>12178835
nah it's funny that this same guy is back. he was in ~2018 space threads. If I could search including "/" in the archive I'd find it

>>12178834
Well you wouldn't use oxygen at all in a nuclear thermal rocket except as an afterburner if you needed more TWR, but yes you could run liquid methane through a nuclear cermet fuel without worrying about deposits so long as the methane is very pure.
In some ways it might even be better than hydrogen because it doesn't behave as much like a corrosive in super high temperature environments, and the primary issue with LH2 NTPRs is that hydrogen behaves in a corrosive manner at very high temperatures and pressures, causing nuclear fuel to become brittle and either dissolve slowly thus contaminating the exhaust or to crack, damaging the reactor.

>>12178702
Let's be real we're all looking at his legs.

>>12178847
Is he trying to be funny or is he legitimately that crazy?

>>12178831
Ignore me, my retarded brain thought you guys were talking about supplying nuclear power on earth with space harvested fuel.

>>12178849
Surely the best future reactor design would be a closed cycle type with a heat exchanger system.

>>12178839
OTOH it doesn't make much sense to be limited in engine restarts by what real engines had when you're designing a rocket "from scratch". It's a limitation of KSP as a snappy block building style platform. There's no technical reason you can't throw development money at unlimited restarts for an engine if that's what you need for your booster. I haven't played with procedural engines, maybe that changes it.

>>12178851
that crazy. He used to always reference "/space" (r/space) niggers or something. Huge walls of spaced apart text, lots of insults, and sometimes smiley faces. Yeah like 2018/17 iirc

>>12178849
Do you think water NTRs will be a thing in the near-mid future?

>>12178854
Are you talking about the "lightbulb" drive? If so, then yes it's probably about as good as you'll get with an inherently safe nuclear drive.

>>12178861
You could make one but their usefulness would in my opinion be quite questionable. Yes, they'd develop high TWR and their propellant is abundant, but their ISP really is abysmally low considering the level of investment you need to make to build any nuclear rocket fuel element.

>>12178862
>inherently safe
So I take it "embedding chunks of fission fuel in an SRB and bringing the exhaust stream to criticality in the nozzle" is out

>>12178859
Bizarre, I wonder what's wrong with him to make him this way

finally that retard was banned

>>12178861
>>12178868
if you've got water and a nuclear reactor already handy there'd be no reason to not just electrolyze it first, would there?

>>12178871
guess again right winger

Imagine posting non space flight things on the space flight general board

>>12178823
If we strapped you to the tip of a rocket, the gravity well created by the density of your stupidity could easily propel over 1000 tonnes into orbit.

>>12178870
>that hand directly on blue's ass
nice

>>12178876
LOL
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>>12178873
Wouldn't it be less efficient to siphon a portion of the reactor's output to split the water before heating the hydrogen, rather than just heating the water to silly temperatures and pressures? I'm not a nuclear guy so idk

>>12178869
Well, if you don't care about reusing your launch pad or the vehicle, and don't care about irradiating your launch side or payload, and there's nothing else the rocket is pointed at that you care about you could do that.
It would be fun but not practical for valuable payloads, living payloads, or anything you want to launch more than a single time.
>>12178873
Not so long as you have some time on your hands to sit around and wait for it to get done, and so long as you can manage your heat. It's a pretty common idea that you could use a hydrogen NTPR to get to one of the water rich worlds in the solar system, land it, excavate and process ice into fresh hydrogen and oxygen and continue on so long as your other supplies hold out.

>>12178878
Anyone know the origin? It was posted here a week or so back without context and it got me curious.

Jim Bridenstine is a great man. Don't you agree?

I do wonder how he's still posting?

>>12178896
"L.E.SBITNEV GIRL AND VENUS YOUNG GUARD" according to Google Translate

Yandex gives a bunch of results but I don't speak bylat

>>12178874
i am literally left of Kropotkin but could you please for the love of god stfu

>>12178847
WOAH GUYS WE ARE LIVING IN THE FUTURE THREADspacex is launching 10 more falcons this year and a falcon heavythat means they will get reusability down yes or yesresuability will bring down costs of spaceflight by 100that means that from the year after this on everything space related will be 100 cheaperbut another thingle ebin space mining is suddenly ultra profitablecue to platinum becoming ultra abundant on earth, since in space we have it in close to infinite quantities related to the earth size (we could practically build a couple hundreds earth of pure platinum) that means platinum on earth willb ecome as plentiful as siliconthat means that suddenly ultra efficient futuristic car batteries will be all aroundso that means that now most machines will work with between 70 to 95% energy efficiencyand thats just in the first 10 years of the great space revolution of th emind, what more could come of iti personally think that most sci fi failed to imagine the change would be so quick and disruptive.fuckin alpha centaurianON OF BNILLIONS(le epin french response masterman): le nole only onele mele instruct you now:if spacex is good price then autmatically al lmarket theyonfimred inferiorhow manyi mean[HOW MAYN HOW MUCH MANY MUCH DID FORD MODEL CAR COMPANY STARTED BY SELLING AT THE VERY EGGINGN?

>>12178900
Considering the opposition he encountered when he started its impressive hes gained such widespread praise. Ill be very sad when he eventually loses the job.

>>12178906
Im sorry idiot, but you have stumbled into a fighter of the mind, and no matter how much you insist on being a violence builly, i have read books all my life so i have an armor against idiots. Youre inferior non knowledge powers do nothign to me, so prepare to fight with thoughts or be declared inferiors to me dear sir.

>>12178915
How did you get to be so buttblasted?

>>12178904
Weird, searching that gives me nothing on google/bing.

>>12178927
Pretty sure it is fake. Real nice art.

>>12178930
That seems most likely, but part of me wanted to read about soviet space-dykes on Venus.
Nice art indeed though.

>>12178919
bru... youre replying to pasta

>>12178927
>>12178932
Pretty sure it isn't fake, just Russian and probably untranslated

https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2020/09/consider-owl.html?m=1

Does this make any sense? Could horizons be used as a roundabout propulsion mechanism?

>>12178855
Yeah SPE lets you do variants with more ignitions/burn time.

You do make a good point that in the long run it's not that hard to relight an engine but when you're doing early game in a career mode it still gives you unrealistic abilities. They would have loved to have a restartable AJ-10 from day 1 but AFAIK they couldn't implement that until transtage.

First for BIG GEMINI!

>>12178957
Early career I can see the argument, but surely if you feel your program *needs* restartable engines as an early priority that's a path you should be able to explore, even if it means compromising other development (ie, your motors are restartable, but you pretty much only have pressure fed engines)

I don't think KSP is really designed for that level of granular development tradeoff in the tech system

>>12178855
>>12178957
did someone say restarts?

>>12178960
Almost the first thing I did after installing KSP and a few mods again was a MOL style space station with that giant fucking spy camera (I think it's from BDB but it might be from something else)

Was pretty proud to have docked by eye on my first attempt after not playing for a couple years

KSP but with CoaDE part design when bros?

>>12178986
isn't that what Nathankell does to get RO configs working

>>12178829
I know some hippies and looneys give environmentalism a bad name, but one of my greatest desires to come out of space flight is a future in which we can remove as much of the ugly industrialism and factories on earth and move it somewhere else. I'm not stupid enough to think it'll 100% go away from earth, but a teddy roosevelt approach to our planet would be nice.

>>12178992
kek

>>12178960
Int-20 would have been hilariously overpowered for station logistics, even if it was a 12-man station. The Big G report says it could handle 69,000 pounds of cargo to a 50-degree orbit, and that would be at least 4 flights per year. Does the ISS even need 20 tons a year?

>>12179013
Maybe it's for polar orbit stations, given that most of the point of MOL was to act as a manned spy satellite

>>12179021
McDonnell-Douglas may well have tried to sell it to the Air Force for the larger MOL follow-on stations but this was just a report done for a NASA contract for general space station logistics.

>>12178695
>Do Black Lives Matter in Outer Space
I dunno, let's space a lot of black people and find out.

>>12178704
IN SPACE NO ONE CAN LET YOU BREATHE

>>12177937
immigration without integration leads to factionalism and likely totalitarianism through the broad decline of social trust observed, multiculturalism is seeming like a far bigger debate in academic circles than most people are willing to admit

>>12178843
If you're using hydrogen your TWR is shit but your Isp is high. Inject a bit of oxygen just past the reactor outlet and your Isp drops but your thrust goes up. Great for doing shit like launching from Callisto, transferring to Ganymede, and landing there all in one stage; you'd use the oxygen afterburner while launching and landing.

>>12178873
>if you've got water and a nuclear reactor already handy there'd be no reason to not just electrolyze it first, would there?
Time. It takes a few hours worth of ground ops to hook up a water line to a nuclear thermal shuttle, refill it, and have it leave again. It takes months of megawatt-electric power usage to electrolyse a few thousand kilograms of water.

based

>>12178695
Nobody's stopping Africans from making thier own space program

>>12179084
based

>>12179098
based

>>12178947
I tried searching a bit more and found it posted to this forum thing, translation of the description says 'fake' but not certain how accurate both that and the translation are. Another site (I see 9 matches for image search) has it listed as "from the storerooms of the bibliophile" but that seems to be it. Finally on a site called DTF I found this textless version, though no information about it.
I still don't have a good answer but this has been unexpectedly interesting to try looking into.

>>12179084
I worry a little that Biden would fuck with Tesla/Starlink and screw with Elon. Think about it for a second. Biden talked about "standardizing charging stations", he talked about supporting unions and he talked about building 5G networks. Now there's no clear mandates yet, but I strongly suspect he'll support the Detroit auto companies (GM/Ford/Chevy) to boost EV, at the expense of Tesla. Biden talked about how great an EV Corvette would be a month or two ago.

>>12179115
Mush now has major investment from china and germany. Tesla is now too big to be allowed to fail. Biden will not fuck with that.

>>12179095
they are though white privelege hogs the money

>>12178266
While I really like the ITS design for its resemblance to the dragon capsule lineage, Starship is the best design overall.

>>12179153
Elon is from Africa why can't other Africans do better

>>12178287
SLS needs to cut it out with the hydromeme first stage and start using RP1 again. I mean, they're just gonna dump the core stages, so why not just recreate the F1s?

>>12179171
cuz they're black lol

>>12179167
Episode I approved.

>>12179183
have they tried not being black? it worked for the egyptians

>>12179172
>why not just recreate the F1s?
Why recreate the F-1 when you can use a cluster of Merlin 1D engines instead? Higher thrust to weight, higher Isp, and way cheaper. Also already working and under high volume construction today.

>>12178217
No fuck you, worm is best

>>12179172
>why not just recreate the F1s?
Because NASA hates Dynetics for some fucking reason. Same reason they're probably not going to select the ALPACA HLS despite it being the best option.

>>12179172
F1B was a thing and it was glorious and it was rejected because SLS is not allowed to have nice things

>>12179194
F1B reduced the parts count 10 fold or something and increase TWR, it would have been a perfectly fine engine. Clustered Merlins would have worked, of course, except that Merlin didn't exist in it's modern form when SLS was being developed.

I still think NASA should use Falcons to replace the SRBs. But they won't.

>>12179190
Clearly the solution is to have white men go on tours of duty in Africa to breed with the black women, then a generation later repeat with all the half-black african girls, repeat. The boys don't get to breed obv. They can dig up diamonds or something idk.

>>12179115
I think tesla has gotten to the point where it's cemented itself into the future. If Hillary won in 2016 maybe she would've fucked with it, but with all the gigafactories they're building, and possibly dozens to come within the next few decades, I think they've past the point of no return, and unless the old car companies start hauling ass and making big changes in their cars, there won't be much Biden could really do to fuck with them. As far as starlink, just from the beta tests alone it's clear how beneficial it will be, no one's gonna mess with it.

>>12179208
It was a lot more, from 5000 unique components in F1 to around 50 in the F1b. Not only that but the F1b was computer designed with computer optimized tolerances and significant simplifications in plumbing without significant losses in ISP. There would have been almost no need for humans to spend extra man hours checking it's fittings after initial assembly whereas the original F1 demanded up to 500 man hours of careful tuning and testing by hand before it was ready to fire. It would have been much cheaper to manufacture and easier to refurbish if desired.

This is what they took from you, it is worse than the SSME - it is may Allah forgive me for uttering the name - a Solid Rocket Booster.

>>12179208
Okay, but today Merlin 1D exists and F-1B doesn't, so if they ever open up the possibility of liquid fueled boosters for SLS Block 2 again, why would they pick F-1B instead? I'm not saying I think SLS Block 2 is gonna happen of course, that shit is at unbelievable levels of not happening.

>>12179241
>>12179208
>>12179194
>>12179172
6 meter methalox reusable SLS boosters powered by 2x9 Raptor engine clusters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaSmjRWhcl4&ab_channel=RaizSpace

>>12179200
rocketdyne and dynetics are two complete different companies anon...

What will be like the most kino realistic re-entry we can realistically expect? I mean atmospheric clouds, super dense asteroid fields, steep styler dive angles and dodgy super late pullups. Mars is cool because of the setting and you come in so fast and the atmo is so thing that you have to steer into the planet to not exit, I think Venus would also be rad because of the clouds, but I kind of hope we go... to some really dense asteroid fields or blow something up HARD, soon. Would be pretty neat to just hammer it through the remnants of a moon or something.

>>12179276
Starship. Consider that stainless steel heat tempers to all sorts of pretty colors. The leeward side of Starship will look like a rainbow oil slick after a few flights.

>>12179276
>What will be like the most kino realistic re-entry we can realistically expect?
Literally nothing exciting, unless you find basic hold-attitude-until-the-plasma-goes-away reentry to be exciting.

>>12179283
I dunno man...

>>12178986
SimpleRockets 2 desu

>>12179284
We could award pilots with style points and some drink named after them if they eat shit...

>>12179274
Pyrios (the F-1B booster) was a joint venture between Dynetics and Rocketdyne.

>>12179290
How complete is it? If I want to build Starship and do a moon landing, can I?

>>12179284
are aerodynamic landings dead system wide?

>>12179276
JUPITER
AEROBRAKING

>>12179301
dunno I haven't played in a year

>>12179290
it won't let you build pressure-fed engines any bigger than the LMDE so i can't make sea dragon in it yet...

>>12178986
are there any good tutorial series for COADE? i've watched a few youtube playthroughs but at no point do i feel like i have any clue what's going on other than the maneuver nodes

>>12179316
This is the biggest engine I managed to make, still not big enough?

>>12179320
big chungus

>>12179325
They fly now?

>>12179335
THEY FLY NOW

>>12179339
THEY FLY NOW?

>>12179316
the ingame tutorial is pretty decent, it walks you through reference frames and intercepts and refueling and all that stuff
the complex stuff is just in fucking around with designing parts, but you donät have to do that to go through the campaign and by default it doesn't unlock until after you finish the campaign

>>12179335
We have liftoff...of the entire fucking test stand.

>>12179348
it took a lot to contain this beast

>>12179344
goodbye test stand

>>12179347
>>12179316
At least on my PC, CoaDE chugs to a crawl and crashes whenever there's too much shit going on – which is a problem, because it means missile swarms crash the game. Also, missile guidance is shit, don't expect to get missile based interceptors to work. And once you launch your 64 ASATs against the 32 incoming missiles and your railguns start spewing thousands of rounds per minute, the game will crash

>>12179344
You might want to check your staging, m8.

>>12179381
NEW RUNWAY PROJECT VIDEO FUCKING WHEN

>>12179381
You might want to fear the Lord. Whatever you do, you're going to leave me alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssnh8KznSeM

5 hours until the Scrub stream

>>12179369
yeah it definitely chugs a bit when you have a billion things going on, I've never had much crashing though
default missile guidance is pretty fucking bad, but you can get something pretty decent if you tweak the guidance settings a bunch although I forget the settings I used now

>>12179395
>this tonight
>falcon/starlink tomorrow morning
>antares/cygnus tomorrow night
>falcon/gps friday night
I haven't been able to keep all these scrubbed launches straight in a few days. Hopefully ULA has results tonight, but I know they won't.

>>12179395
>cricket sounds intensify

>>12179419
Scrubs over rhetoric

>>12178675
Wtf did i miss out on?

>>12179395
three common cores should mean three wolves

>>12179433
exceptionally low-effort trolling

>>12177262
Squad goes bye bye, always on redditfag

>>12179433
What appeared to be either genuine mental illness or really a really embarrassing attempt at being funny.

Alright I'm reinstalling RO/RP1 for the first time this year. What should by first goal be? I brushed up on basic KSP yesterday.

>>12179395
united scrub alliance

>>12178093
>Blackpilled and "muh society always bad"

>>12178073
>And if you’ve watched any number of big-budget sci-fi productions over the last several years, it’s not hard to imagine Musk’s Martian colony spinning off into some Elysium-style eco-apartheid
Usually I'd call this out as retarded leftists thinking movies are real life (at least they use harry potter), but honestly that's the most based thing ever, fuck I hope Mars is a glorious apartheid terraforming project

>>12179468
I think "blackpilled" people have become my least favorite types of people in the world. The preform a supremely high amount of mental gymnastics to justify the fact that they just hate themselves.

>>12179454
electron heavy

>>12179419
and me! dont forget me!

>>12179454
SSTO SRB spaceplane

>>12179503
Genuinely adorable

>>12179454
BEEEEES

>>12179525
>>12179503
electron heavy but with aeroBEEEEEEEEEZ engines, got it

>>12179511
I'm installing RP1 it will take me weeks to get to that tech level

>>12178986
Imagine a first stage running on this puppy.

>>12179395
Wait a second is this the one that got scrubbed a while back after an abort after the engines started? Which in turn was after several other scrubs?
How long ago was this?

>>12178695
can't be assed to read the article, but the first sentence in the screenshot:
>first spacecraft launched from american soil in almost a decade
is just straight fucking wrong. Why bother writing an article if you're not even gonna do basic research?

>>12179538
Yep, a while back. August?

>>12179525
>building solid sounding rockets when you can build some peaceful big ethanol sounding rockets
bro...

>>12179538
RESULTS OVER RHETORIC

>>12179547
>the V2 was a sounding rocket of peace

>>12179503
There's something satisfying about making smallsat launchers in KSP, big rockets are too easy. I just wish we had some near future shit available to make nuclear powered reusable electron heavies.

>>12179538
hot fire abort was a month ago, and then the swing arm broke, and then they had a leak, and then they had weather, and then...

>>12179563
JUST

>>12179553
didn't get really used so kind of
propellant is ch5oh+h2o2 right?

>>12179570

>>12179587
the absolute state

>>12179587
The launch was originally scheduled for June too but that delay may have just been thanks to corona-chan

>>12179584
the v2 is the most launched rocket of all time anon...

Mechanically speaking, how does one have sexual relations with a turbopump?

>>12179619
J-jam it in

>>12179605
Shit, sorry, i thought specifically about the nazi-developped one
>facepalm() ;

>>12179619
let it suck you in but dont go too deep

>>12179632
Cheese grate

Have I fucked anything really obvious up with this? I guess we'll see when I fly it

Betting that the hotpocket rocket will scrub tonight as well.

>>12179640
TWR? Center of drag? Also 2k m/s asl, that engine better be efficient

>>12179640
you want to fire the bee at the same time as the solid. if you wait until the solid is done then the drag will be too strong for it to light.

>>12179640
>not using procedural fins
bro.....
also it's gonna fly off and crash somewhere, you need to either twist the fins a bit so it spins up immediately when the booster fires or use some separatrons on the booster to spin it up or download that mod that lets you do proper launch rails like they use IRL but thats a pain in the ass

>>12179640
>>12179643
2.1km/s dV is never going to be enough for orbit if that's what you're doing

>>12179650
>>12179651
>>12179654
haha you're all wrong my mistake was not making sure the main tank was pressurized when using a pressure fed engine

>>12179659
The hotpocket rocket has nothing to do with KSP, my boy.

>>12179659
Bees are not for orbit. They're for larping as the 1940s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

>>12179663
>>12179654
actually, my recommendation would be to twist the fins a decent amount but put them on the booster instead of the main rocket
that way you get enough spin immediately to stabilize it throughout the flight, but you have less drag and less breaking KSP when its spinning at 9999999999999rpm halfway through the flight

>>12179659
no it's literally the first rocket of a new career file just to grab low hanging science

>>12179701
The fins are actually twisted but I'll move them to the booster on the next launch, it definitely spins up like a motherfucker

>>12179687
Might install a mod with it to get in minmus-to-minmus orbit then lol

>>12179714
I'm running full RO/RP1 so trying to get to orbit around Earth would involve hundreds of engines and hundreds of engine-outs

>>12179563
So you're saying that the SN8 20km hop will happen before this rocket launches?

>>12179619
Best attempted with the turbopump not in operation.
Other than that, it's got inlet and outlet tubes, so you've got your pick. What are you waiting for?

>>12179587
>September 30: Aborted at T+5 seconds due to engine failure. Payload destroyed.

It took Musk 10 attempt to create a semi-successful rocket company SpaceIX, SpaceVIII, SpaceVII etc. ALL FAILED. Elon? More like Elol. Leave it to the experts, sweetie.

>>12179701
>>12179711

you don't need spin-stabilization if you're just going straight up, although it doesn't hurt anything other than making your navball dizzy

>>12179772
you do if you have the wind mod installed, and even without it very often launch clamp jank or aerodynamics will pull you slightly off course during launch and by the time you have enough speed for fins to stabilize the rocket you're already flying off sideways

I have added additional bees

>>12179761
Gave me a sensible chuckle. There are probably people out there who sincerely believe that.

>>12179789
I ended up staging after three of the BEES died, ended up with an apogee of 40km after the last stage bee died

Bee reliability: questionable

>>12179421
I almost broke a rib laughing at that.

>>12179803
just add more bees so you'll have three-engine-out capability, easy

>>12179839
I upgraded the BEES to XASR standard and managed a 300km apogee with only four engine failures and an explosion, this is wonderful progress

>>12177839
>where the jovian moons, Mars, Venus and Mercury have been colonised, formed a federation and are mad because Earth won't share resources
why would the jovian moons, mars, venus, and mercury form a federation?

>>12177986
NASA will continue to do research missions, they just won't develop their own rockets.

>>12179853
"fuck earf" club?

>>12179853
Probably just because they aren't Earth.

>>12179847
>not using 8k RSS
>not using RSSLSE for launch sites all over the fucking place
bro...

>>12179865
>anything less than 16k
if /sfg/ had any more scrubs in it we'd have to rename this place the united launch alliance

>>12178266
Sirver cutterfish! Best!

FULLY AUTOMATED SINGLE USE PALLET LANDERS

>>12179276
TITAN (Or jupiter)

>yfw you send tardigrades to the moon to put planetary protectionists out of a job

>>12177226
Who else is looking forward to the ULA launch?
Pretty fun last time desu

>>12179914
https://twitter.com/AstroTraviesa/status/1160320076874207232
dug up this tweet back when they found out about that. funny stuff, reads very similar to that chick a week or so ago complaining that NASA buying moon rocks is colonialism. Is tardigrades on the moon colonialism? I suppose, for the imperial tardigrade empire

>>12179587
Jesus Christ, what a shitshow

>>12179937
>HECKING TARDIGRADES ON THE MOON
And here we have a planet full of retardigrades like her to deal with.
Damn, what the fuck are going to do.

>>12178582
If nuclear rocketry was steadily developed we may have had gas core rockets at this time.

>>12179937
Do these people understand that we actually sent people there? We brought our microbiomes and shit and piss and cum.

Besides that, there are raised AMERICAN flags on the gosh danged moon. Go home tardigrades we were here first.