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If I complete everything on this chart and learn from it will I still be a brainlet?


What should I buy first if I was at a highschool dropout level?


Plus has anyone here actually read/done any of these?

>> No.12156711

>>12156706
why does it matter? you're never going to do it.
don't delude yourself, you'll probably buy the first 5 books at once, start strong on one and then halfway through you'll notice yourself not going back to it every day. before you even finish one book you'll have given up.
this isn't a comment about you, specifically, but rather about pretty much anyone who asks this same question.

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12156718

>random changes between shades of white
That's an old version, please post this one.

>> No.12156733

>>12156706
What makes you think you'd do all that and hold a job at the same time?

Don't start something you can't finish. Specially something you can't put on your CV.

>> No.12156831

can someone recommend a good book on statistics with good proofs?

>> No.12157165

>>12156711
you are worthless too

>> No.12157526

>>12156711
this. if you have the will power to cram through all of those books then you should just enroll in an educational institution and do it right, else what's the point, really? flex your awesome knowledge on /sci/? i never understood these self-teach topics on /sci/ where people just figure they want to cover every single textbook that is usually seen in an undergraduate/graduate program yet they have no intentions of joining academia or doing research, and if they did then they would be following their own classes syllabus like a normal person would. op's post reeks of cope, if he hasn't come to terms yet with the fact that he's a dropout then he would be better off spending his time going through the books required for taking his ged and getting a highschool diploma then studying for the sat if he wishes to do so. what is the point of studying graduate level math while being a highschool dropout, what will come off it, if anthing

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>>12157526
>if you have the will power to cram through all of those books then you should just enroll in an educational institution and do it right
I literally couldn't, I'm already doing a bachelors in a public university, I can't simultaneously do a second bachelors in a public university and private colleges are garbage here.

>> No.12157568

>>12157526
>what is the use of learning
learning can be its own reward
i learn many things that are useless toward my degree just because i enjoy understanding the world around me

>> No.12157579

>>12156706
>What should I buy first if I was at a highschool dropout level?
Never buy. Pirate. Stewart Precalculus is all the math you will ever need. Don't try to learn things your actual work doesn't demand.

>> No.12157587

>>12157568
To understand things around you, books on technical matters are completely useless. Specially since you're putting this much importance on math which is rarely used in the real word while you're ditching things like basic biology, physiology or finance.

>> No.12157603

Not op. But what about a book with some mathematics exercises, questions, problems.
Let's say from baby maths through to graduate level.

>> No.12157609

>>12157603
Those are a lot of subject matters.

>> No.12158389

i really wish i could read one of these 4chan reading list and be guaranteed a job

>> No.12158435

Did you just come from /mg/
Either way my advice would be to start with the abstract algebra book by Foote, that's the one that'll tell you if you actually like math or not. If you like it then read the topology book by munkre and lurk in /mg/
And btw only read those two books for fun, it's not gonna make you smarter

>> No.12158958

>>12158435
general topology (the material in half the book of munkres) is imo one of the most boring subjects in maths but it is still helpful if you want to learn algebraic topology and other stuff
so don't get discouraged by it
fomenko makes great math books i think

>> No.12159047

What the hell is wrong with you people? What empty, utilitarian lives do you live?
>No! Do not enjoy learning things! Do not learn unless someone pays you to do so!
I've got a job. It doesn't need maths beyond arithmetic and vety basic statistics. I learn maths for fun.
Painting doesn't help my job. Nor does watching films. I'm going to carry on doing those as well.

>> No.12159318

>>12156706
Never understood this compilations of random books imprinted on a an image.
Images is often too huge and text can be digested and edited quicker anyway.
Create git repo - it's free and has many backends besides Github.
Second - don't just add EVERY FUCKING BOOK YOU SEE, read them first yourself and deduce what should be picked from it or better yet lookup college programs and add what you think missing in them or their general overview(like what should you need to focus on).

>> No.12159430

>>12157587
>math not useful in the real world
>cite fields that are based on a mathematical foundation to interpret their models and experiments.

>> No.12159522

>>12157526
That can be a good analysis, however, it's probably not the most adequate conclusion. My personal recommendation to OP would be to study books that can provide as much fun as possible. In other words, books that have a lot of historical motivation, (e.g. A book of abstract algebra, Analysis by its history) books that have difficult creative exercises, (e.g. Concrete Mathematics, Real Mathematical Analysis), books that ask you to come up with the theory on your own, (e.g. Aha! Insight) or that ask you to come up with some parts of the theory (e.g. Combinatorics through guided discovery, Linear Algebra Problem Book) books that show the process behind mathematical discovery (Proofs and Refutations, How to Solve it) books that leisurely build to the abstract (e.g. Abel's Theorem in Problems and Solutions) and even better with many weird examples (e.g. The Fascination of Groups, Counterexamples in topology) books that tell you about the topic in a brief way (like say a book for the layman) (e.g. From Geometry to Topology), unconventional books with a lot of philosophy (e.g. Probability Theory: The Logic of Science), books that are intuitive in the visual way (e.g. Visual Complex Analysis, Visual Group Theory, A topological Picturebook) Challenging books with little to no motivation (Foundations of Modern Analysis, Finite Dimensional Vector Spaces) Books that have drawings that feel more poetic than illustrative (e.g. Mathematical Impressions), etc.

>> No.12159537

>>12159522
>books that tell you about the topic in a brief way
forgot to add, if a book tells you very little about the topic, then you're able to fill in the details yourself, so it can be pretty fun trying to invent the theory

>> No.12159805

>>12158435
>>12158958
He said he's at highschool dropout level in math. He should start with skimming a how to prove things book then go to pinter a book of abstract algebra.

>> No.12161733

>>12159522
Linear Algebra Problem Book from Halmos? The Logic of Science from who?

>> No.12161848

>>12156718
Book of Proof is miles ahead of How to Prove It. Such a great book for an introductory proof course. Thanks, Prof. Hammack.

>> No.12161995

>>12159522
awww i think this is a good rec. honestly, i feel like honors courses at some universities encourage this kind of playful learning anyway.

>> No.12162004

Honestly your best bet is to try out free online college courses like khan A. At least then you can keep up wuth some sort of structure if you read these on your own youre more likely to give up

>> No.12163584

>>12157526
>what is the point of studying graduate level math while being a highschool dropout, what will come off it, if anthing
knowledge my brother

>> No.12163623

>>12156706
If you're actually a high school drop out, these won't be useful for you. Try Gelfand books or something like Comprehensive Engineering Mathematics.

>> No.12164090

>>12163584
Knowledge is useless by itself, much more knowledge without validation.

>> No.12165769

>>12161733
Yes, from Halmos and Probability Theory: The Logic of Science by E. T. Jaynes

>> No.12165870

>>12156706
Basic part is pretty good.
Would also suggest Apostol or Piskunov for calc, specially Piskunov.
For linear algebra definitely go Axler, Hoffman Kunze is mostly a reference text.
For abstract alg I'm partial to Aluffi.
For Analysis definitely go with understanding analysis by Abbott, its just a joy to read. Maybe rudin later.
For complex go papa rudin.
The rest are pretty good