/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12130297
Schizo and or low iq and or autism obession and or too many drugs

>>12130297
>>12130317
>conspiracy doesn't exist.

>>12130322
Real conspiracy do exist but =/ 99% of conspiracy theories.
The idea that you can justify all the crazy conspiracy theories on the internet because the government admitted to some in the past is faulty reasoning, and it's also highly ironic. The government, the institution you think is the big bad evil thing, told you about the real conspiracies.
>>12130297
I've been involved in the conspiracy theory online world since about 2007. I can conclude that it's the following
>distrust of authority figures, usually on very shaky grounds or insecurity
>low intelligence/average intelligence and low educational achievement
>drug use/mental illness
>loneliness
For many of them, conspiracy theories are the first time they've had a community and the first time they have "felt" intelligent. Conspiracy theories give people cheap, easy, stories that make them feel more intelligent than the dumb masses who do not know about the conspiracy.

Maybe drugs?

>>12130297
low IQ

>conspiracy theory
is a made up term to discredit people who dare question authorities and narratives. It makes cucks feel better.

99% of people who use the term conspiracy theory don't know what it means and only associate it with flat earth and reptilians, let's start there and ask why this is

>>12130297
Probably boredom and escape from mundanity of life.

>>12130297
it requires intelligence to look at pieces and put together a puzzle. Most people are stupid and can't do it so they call everyone who isnt as stupid as them cwaaaazy

>>12130556
>>12130568
Wrong. Conspiracy theories is exactly that, schizo shit like 9/11 TROOOOF and flat earth.
Conspiracies are real, however.

>>12130297
Many conspiracists are more intelligent than the general population, so when they communicate an idea other people take whatever they heard as a complete snapshot of their mind and beliefs, rather than some aspect of a greater model.

If you ask the anti-conspiracist (ie chaos or coincidence theorist), he will say the conspiracist cannot deal with uncertainty of a chaotic world so he finds a signal within the noise and uses it as an organizing principle such that he may feel safe and in control. Ironically, conspiracism does the exact opposite, to the extent you ever felt safe, you will never feel safe nor certain again. The conspiracist recognizes that there is no randomness and chaos in the psychosocial ecology and relations between biological systems. The anti-conspiracist believes "truth" in populations works like the "many wrongs principle" in avian navigation, despite the fact that this is completely false given that humans organize around far more irrational needs, not truth.

To deny conspiracy is to deny the relationship between the eyes and the legs. The brainstem and the heart. The blood vessels and the hypothalamus. Man, more than all the other animals, forms highly deferred and vertical organizational and control structures. It should be no surprise that some people act as a nervous system, some act as muscle tissue, some immune system, and so forth. There is no chaos. There is no free will. The brain commands, and the muscle moves.

Without going deeper and into value system, early childhood, usage of faith, and all the rest of it, that's what separates the two.

>>12130885
Also, coincidence theorists are trauma bonded. Thus, they're also unwitting master gaslighters.

>>12130297
It’s just another way people manufacture meaning in their lives
There’s truth to the idea that conspiracy attacks schizophrenia, autistic, and junkies

Those people generally don’t have a lot of meaning in their lives. However, anyone who is unstable and lost can fall prey to the conspiracy

For people who have purpose and meaning, it just doesn’t matter
Most people don’t even think about that stuff and it has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence, it’s cause they’re busy engaging with things that make them happy and fulfill them

>>12130297
the real question is why is this the only board on this shit hole website that is too stupid to understand what the jews are doing even with people literally spoon feeding it to them? Even fucking tv can figure it out rofl. The people on this board are literally dumber than a bunch of NEET vegetables that just watch tv all day, let that sink in your retarded hacks

>>12130896
>Most people don’t even think about that stuff and it has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence, it’s cause they’re busy engaging with things that make them happy and fulfill them

Ignorant of history, I see. See USSR purges, eg holodomor. Kind of hard to live your gleeful little fuckoff life with your thumb up your ass when you're dead or in a gulag, having failed your friends, wife, kids, and family, who are near certainly now either dead, raped and killed, or starving.

>>12130914
They deserve everything they get. They are the zombie army we will soon face. The golem proxy soldiers of the New Age.

>>12130914
>Blacks are so dumb, such low IQ, haha, whites are the master race!!!
>The Jews have a higher IQ than whites
>NOOOOOO, DA JOOOOS ARE DISHONEST, CHEATING, LYING RATS AND LIE AND CHEAT ABOUT THEIR IQ!!!

>>12130914
>tv
Tv is controlled by jews, even you did not understand.

>>12130919
are you having a stroke? what the fuck is this nonsense you schizo motherfucker

>>12130918
yes read the bhagavad gita, take what krishna taught Arjuna to heart. You can't hesitate when the time comes. It is them or us

>>12130919
criminality and IQ are not the same conversation Moshe, but you already knew this before creating your strawman

>>12130919
you obviously weren't smart enough to stop while you were ahead were you? Seems like you don't learn too good.

What do you tell the Jew with 359 black eyes?

>>12130935
>>12130943
>>12130953
>DA JOOOOS RULE DA WORLD
>Completely ignores all the white European people who work with the Jews and control the world.

>>12130297
psychologists realize that they can serve their wealthy masters by gaslighting the public.
Normies believe either that the conspiracies are silly/ridiculous or they believe the cartoon version of the conspiracy theory and sound like schizos.
Intelligent, free thinkers, can see the actual conspiracies in their true form, but realize that speaking out is a lot more harmful to them than noding and smiling.

>>12130297
you should define your terms. what do you mean by "conspiracy theorist"? are there categories other than "conspiracy theorist" and "non conspiracy theorist"? if it's a binary division then are there some contrasting beliefs that only "non conspiracy theorists" share? put some effort in, faggot

>>12131299
It's not a matter of effort, he thinks that's all ther eis to be said. They're all that stupid.

>>12130334
So if some gangster admitted or even boasted about some of his crimes, that means that he is otherwise innocent?

>>12130994
YOU DONT TELL THE JEW ANYTHING HE WAS TOLD 359 TIMES ALREADY

>>12130917
Uhhh, are we not talking about conspiracy theories?
Don’t really get what you’re saying

>>12131357
Ignorance is not bliss, and some security is false. You need to act before it's all really moving, and it's too late to organize.

Ain't complicated my dude.

>conspiracies don't exist!
>then what are state secrets or intelligences?
>that's just a joke!

>>12131362
I’ll take happiness while I can have it over paranoia

I’d go out swinging anyway

>>12131386
Then shut up and stay out of the way of people who want the truth, and dare to think they could build something better. We have enough stress without chattel cattle calling us ":schizo". By your own admission you shouldn't give half a shit about what happens to you, so any threat from our activities shouldn't concern you.

>>12131386
>I’d go out swinging anyway
Hope you are wearing a mask.

>>12131396
The thread is about the psychology of conspiracy theory, and I offered up an explanation relating to individual psych

It’s not like I’m in a thread on /pol talking shit to someone trying to discuss the latest conspiracy who’s who

Your just upset cause your identity has been challenged

>>12131396
Yeah, there is absolutely no threat from you and your types
And if I’m cattle
Then you’re just a bunch of birds on a wire squawking away

>>12131414
I already responded to your question: >>12130885

>>12131418
Accurate depiction, in large part. Well said.

Good thing conspriacioes don't exist we can just rid of the police and the media I guess guys. Fuck why did we waste all that money!

>>12131426
Your answer is founded upon assertions that have no base whatsoever. There is zero proof that anything you said is true, and that’s the real problem with conspiracy theorists

You all don’t care whether things have proof or backing, you, just like the liberals and left, fit reality to your narrative

>>12131446
>proof
>baseless assertions

You desire to be led and fed. The collective is your God and society's institutions are your Holy Book. Simple as.

>>12131450
The delusion you live in is astounding
I pity you, because you will never get to lead a normal fulfilling life. You will always hold yourself back and see yourself as a victim. Keep rationalizing, 4chan is all you got

>>12131446
Not him but take your meds schizo

>>12131453
This goes right back to my first post. I could, and am, saying the exact same thing to you. That you can't realize it says it all. Half lidded, sleepwalking through life, never knowing self or other yet believing in your own omniscience. Though of course you would deny it up and down, display false humility and so forth, but when it comes down to it you see yourself as a superset of everyone else. Anyone who isn't you, must be defective.

>>12131461
Reading your posts is like listening to someone with a severe Mental illness

It’s all flourishing, vibrant, nonsense

>>12131488
>everyone else is the problem, I'm perfect
You know what they say, give em' enough rope to hang themselves. You can't help it. It's all you have.

>>12130896
that's kind of crazy. that everything you need in life is just placed there and you never have to think about anything because institutions that you blindly trust have already done all the thinking for you. ever wonder how that is even possible?

>>12130297
Because its obvious we are ruled by a deep state

>>12130859
Just a coincidence larry silverstein took out insurance for terrorist attacks and didnt show up to work on 911. Total coincidence

>>12130297
Failure to distinguish between the analytic and the synthetic. Same case as the hyperreligious.

>>12131603
lucky larry! what a cohencidence!

>>12131488
actually he is just vibrating at a higher frequency than you so all you can hear is static because you are low intellect and low consciousness autist

>>12130914
It seems unsurprisingly that the smart boards are the ones least likely to fall for neonazi and Muslim propaganda. /pol/ has a remarkably low average intelligence

>>12131687
>>12131603
I’ve seen every /pol/ claim debunked hundreds of times including this one but they keep getting repeated. you’re doing a great job of convincing people the only way to deal with extremists is to give them what they deserve, since they’re too stupid to have their minds changed by facts.

>What is the science behind conspiracy theorist psychology?
If they can torture enough dissidents and show the video to enough people on the internet, then everyone will shut up about it.

>>12132170

>>12130317
What if I have all of these

In the case of /pol/cel shills like this guy >>12130914, the cause seems to be a combination of the following:
>pathologically low intelligence
>1+ personality disorders, notably narcissistic personality disorder
>exposure to cult propaganda and cult behavior

To be perfectly honest, /pol/ is so unintelligent that it has redefined my understanding of intelligence. I used to think it was far fetched that those “can’t point out their own country on a map” people existed, and now I’m certain people much dumber than they exist with /pol/ posters being an example.

The same thing with religion, aliens, and such. It basically comes down to the belief that agents, or "someone" is the dominant force in the world. Maybe its like a 'Prey instinct'
https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_the_pattern_behind_self_deception/details?language=en

More
https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_why_people_believe_weird_things/details?language=en

>>12130914
you’re so close to figuring out that people who hate jews are retarded. I haven’t laughed this hard in a while, thank you anon. the most perfect example of 0 self-awareness/npc I’ve ever seen

>>12132186
yes even to smart people the idea that we are in control is appealing. they just aren’t quite stupid enough to believe it.

A lot of people who hate the Synagogue of Satan will tell you that they hate Jews because that is what the members of that Synagogue present themselves as in public.

>>12132186
who is responsible for every country in the world declaring a "new normal", more or less simultaneously? we can answer that question very easily. it was a preprogrammed response to an announcement by the United Nations W.H.O. that a "pandemic" was in play. no one elected them. most people have never even thought about them. but they were able to achieve this outcome. so from where do they derive their power over elected governments? is it possible that this process may be corrupt?

>>12132159
stfu rabbi

>>12132178
>hur dur im a jew and im gonna say jewy shit now
stfu chaim

>>12132218
>>12132223
observe the no-brained conspiracy theorist “arguing.”

>>12132230
observe the jew talking to himself writing his fan fics whilst desperately wishing them to be true while people who aren't retarded just look at him like an idiot

>>12130334
Idk about what crazy crap you read but conspiracy is all around us. Not like maybe aliens and cannibals, so much. People conspire at work for position and that goes beyond where you work and into where everyone works. Law enforcement steals from people. Volkswagen defeats emissions testing. Hitler's remains have not been found. Jesse James could have easily changed his identity. Doctors cover mistakes. Aircraft parts get unapproved repairs. There are secret organizations. This isn't individual circumstance type stuff. It is well known practice among people who partake and it is denied when scrutinized. Since when is being crazy, not crazy? Idk why "the russians" were such a deal, this election. Of course countries have an interest in foreign governments. We influence others too. That's part of the process.

>>12132240
you entered this thread shilling against jews doing this >>12132190 lol

>>12130317
Kek, and Epstein didn

>>12132240
>>12132223
>>12132218
this is a science board not one of your brain dead incel joo obsessed hugboxes like tv or pol. fuck off

>>12132261

https://youtu.be/na4WyceERvw
>im smarytr than all of you

>>12132214
Well that's specific. Its all well and good to look into these things.
They are elected in a sense and rotate.
https://www.who.int/about/governance/executive-board
But I think their (WHO) authority is from their expertise, not political outside of diplomacy between members. Each country took action independently in response the the disease, but they had who guidelines for reference.
The U.N. isn't as strong as most people think. Most of it is "soft power" rather than hard power. And is dominated by the power dynamics between member nations.

As far as the larger point, being skeptical of gov is fine. Maybe you want a better process for handeling disease. Being concerned doesn't mean you're paranoid. But the idea of the video is that its important to learn how to weigh all the information you have, lack, and to know yourself and your biases.

in the case of /pol/ it’s just being evil + stupid. in the case of many others it’s innocent reasons like wanting to make sense out of the world. In others, mental illness. The common thread between them all is that they can’t come to terms with the lack of control humans have over the world or even just their own lives. So they event a person or thing manipulating it.

>>12132292
>event
wtf? invent*

>>12132214
>>12132281
Third person. They have been butt hammering countries for not having a universal protocol when something like this happens. It could be a told you so. It could be a practice run. There's going to be more compliance in the future.

>>12132299
No sire, event.

>>12130297
How many of disproven conspiracies you've heard of?

>>12130297
>Conspiracy
Popular belief that no all information are public.

>>12132261
this board is whatever I want it to be jew not you, you can leave any time you want. As you can see we run this board now like we took over every other board in this shit hole

>this is a science board not one of your brain dead incel joo obsessed hugboxes like tv or pol. fuck off

>>12130297
paranoia
contrarianism
and a little sprinkle of f̶a̶i̶r̶y̶ ̶d̶u̶s̶t̶ half truths to make 'em come alive ;)

psychology is the study of how to control and manipulate the masses, in order to serve the powerful.
Conspiracy theories are stories that exaggerate and twist the crimes of the powerful, so as to gaslight the masses.
You get midwits who aren't earning wages off of a false narrative, and they say "hey they're cheating!"... so the response from the media has to be something like "oh... some 'conspiracy theorists' think they are cheating about EVERY detail, and by using Magic!"
NPCs get confused and say "lol dumb CTs" or simply repeat the originally broadcast narrative "No one is cheating, these guys are really talented.", to feel better.
Geniuses see and understand that they are cheating. And if it happens to be in an area of a particular genius' circle of competence, he even has a good idea of about how exactly the cheating is occurring. However, the genius then either tells the Masses to "ignore the conspiracytards" (because said genius values the integrity of a profitable market), or simply says , huh IDGAF, what's next.
Geniuses who play captain-save-a-schizo, become schizos and/or lose reputation and are demonetized, and/or are suicided.

>>12130297
It's fun and it gives you an illusion that you know too much that the government wants you too. I believe conspiracies (like illuminati, new world order) are made up from the government themselves to distract the public on what's actually going on behind the scenes. Everything you hear nowadays about the mainstream ((((((conspiracy theories))))))) bullshit is a marketing technique for people to make tv shows and books about. Everyone seems so dishonest nowadays

>>12132497
>illuminati, a well documented historical organization was "made up"

>>12132508
I didn't say they weren't real sweaty. Also.
>historical organization
Think about what you said.

>>12132514
>believe conspiracies (like illuminati, new world order) are made up from the government
>I didn't say they weren't real
>Think about what you said.
like pottery sweaty

>>12132525
I'm saying what's made up is the over exaggerated claims people make about them. Not the organization themselves. They definitely were real but not now. That's what I'm saying

>>12132542
And what I mean by people is the ((((((people in power))))))

There's a lot of disinfo and fake conspiracy theories but that does not mean all of it is fake. A conspiracy by definition is a secret plan to do something unlawful or harmful.

The psychology varies person to person most want an explanation for the world around them. Therefore confirmation bias can overcome a lot of the thought process.

What happened on Epstein's island, ranch, and various estates was clearly unlawful and harmful. The extent to how far people around him were involved and the crimes committed is still under investigation. But, from all the "weirdness" so far surrounding the case and investigation it's safe to say there are big players involved.

>>12132542
What makes you think they aren't still around? Who do you think (((Weishaupt))) was? They are still around I assure you and they do very much run the world through the central banks and Vatican

>>12132568
When people talk about conspiracy theorists they are usually referring to people who believe in objectively stupid ones. Stuff like earth is flat, no one ever walked on the moon, holocaust denial, etc.

>>12132497
What would be going on behind the scenes besides the usual ineptitude of government? I mean hell there are a lot of conspiracies around the military-industrial-complex that mostly involve corruption.

>>12132574
Ignorance, scepticism, confirmation bias, stubbornness, and the inherent fuzziness of evaluating the past. Combine all of these and you get a someone who believes in a lot of outlandish things.

Reality even without these beliefs is still a mess of crazy things on top of other crazy things.
Is life.

>>12132573
Because the average person already knows about the concept and "illuminati" is mainstreamed because it's produced by big corporations to advertise the shit out of the conspiracy and the (((((new world order)))) is probably changing it's techniques now by gaslighting the public into thinking their actually smart and socially consious than they actually are. What's their endgame here? I don't know but it's interesting to think about?

>>12132645
Their endgame is global neo feudal communism. The New World Order is just the old world order before the US won their independence and spread the ideas of freedom around the world

>>12132666
*read the treaty of verona

>>12132579
Its definitely subtle but now it's through making the average person so socially consious about stuff that they are eventually going to be blind sided in the inevitable happening that's going to occur in 50 of 100 years or so. You see the beginning of it happening right now with the riots. You see an incident happening people automatically pull out their phones to record it and they do it unconsciously. People are so socially consious that they don't know when their being unconsciously conscious. It's playing out in the hands of politicians that they would probably start to implement legislations and bills that would probably get the average person to agree with it but not knowing what their are agreeing with. And whatever is happening that could possibly be an explanation to a problem people only want to hear the shallow part of it. Everyone is so fucking dishonest now and pawns it's pathetic honestly

>>12132701
It's mentally straining and stressed to become a politician. You have to sign papers. You have to pass bills and legislation. But first you need an ideology. After 60+ hours of that for nearly 40 years of your life it gets boring. That's why only a specific number of people become it. After happening being a face celebrity. You get bored and you start to branch out into corruption and it's basically a power trip to you cause you can and no one can tell you. Everything you've done when you first become a politician you have a dream to accomplish. But when you accomplish that it doesnt give you any pleasure any more so you branch out

>>12132574
>When people talk about conspiracy theorists they are usually referring to people who believe in objectively stupid ones. Stuff like earth is flat, no one ever walked on the moon, holocaust denial, etc.
That's 99.9% of them, though. Almost all are absurd. The few that aren't are generally the ones that have popular support regardless of political party or institution (e.g. something both the mainstream media and general public are interested in). And even for the few exceptions there, they're still extremely rare.

>>12130297
overfitting

>>12132178
>To be perfectly honest, /pol/ is so unintelligent that it has redefined my understanding of intelligence. I used to think it was far fetched that those “can’t point out their own country on a map” people existed, and now I’m certain people much dumber than they exist with /pol/ posters being an example.
You have to consider that the dumbest of the dumb find their way and concentrate there, though. I don't think /pol/ represents a very high % of the world population. But who knows.

>>12132751
This too.

>>12132743
Honestly the mind Is capable of great things. You can experience such a multitude of things but after being an old frail person being put into power you get bored. After thousands upon thousands of interactions. Embarrassing situations. New experiences it gets boring. That's why you can't play the same video game day after day you get bored(unless it's an RPG than no) but my point being is that life is the reason for bringjng upon conspiracies. If you look at history and many kings killed and people revolting you get the same thing happening every 220 years. And we're at that year

>>12132283
>MSM
>Writes blogs for some random tech site (Ars Technica)

That was a pretty fucked up case but his tweets are 100% correct. Even literal pedos realize how absurd Pizzagate was. Also, he makes a good point: pedos generally don't publicly advertise they're pedos.

>>12130914
>why is the science board not as retarded as the TV and politics boards

hmmm

>>12132758
>I don't think /pol/ represents a very high % of the world population.
you're right. they represent the cream of the crop, relatively speaking

>>12132773
spotted the pedo, hope the feds got your ip through the software they have on 4chans servers

>>12132758
>>12132794
holy fucking zogbots you people are
>Hurr durr sure let's just avoid the people who spent years researching one subject and let's instead listen to mainstream ideas who are run by major corporations that will be more comforting.
Fuck off lmao

>>12132843
Mainstream ideas and major corporations are many, many times more trustworthy than /pol/.

>years researching one subject
If you’re an idiot and you had an agenda, what you were doing wasn’t research, it was brainwashing yourself. No matter how manny years you spend researching creationism, it’s still wrong and can be debunked almost effortlessly. The same applies to pretty much all /pol/shit. You’re an NPC dude.

>>12132758
>>12132751
>>12132794
>you WILL wear a mask
>you WILL keep a safe distance
>you WILL follow the arrows
>you WILL thank your health workers
>you WILL follow the nurses on TikTok
>you WILL stay at home
>you WILL get vaccinated
>you WILL wash your hands
>you WILL make your bed
>you WILL do your homework
>you WILL study holocaust history
>you WILL support BLM
>you WILL support your local antifa
>you WILL be voting
>you WILL go to bed at 9PM
>you WILL listen to your parents
>you WILL listen to your teachers
>you WILL keep the salt out of your eyes
>you WILL ignore your imaginary friends
>you WILL ignore the voices in your head
>you WILL take your meds
>you WILL wear the pants
>you WILL make virtual grog babies
>you WILL pay your rent
>and you WILL snort the bugs!

>>12132861
https://youtu.be/FveF-we6lcE

>>12132861
>Mainstream ideas and major corporations are many, many times more trustworthy than /pol
Holy fuck you pretty much are the product of the system.

>If you’re an idiot and you had an agenda, what you were doing wasn’t research, it was brainwashing yourself
Projection. You don't even know every single person that does the research. >Dude you just can't like have an opinion and expand on it. Or you'll look like a schizo
Fuck off

>No matter how manny years you spend researching creationism, it’s still wrong and can be debunked almost effortlessly

Doesn't even relate

>You’re an NPC dude.
What?

>>12132164
Sure thing kike

>>12132888
I’m not saying the mainstream is trustworthy, I’m saying it’s more trustworthy than /pol/. the same way shit smells better than a corpse. get it, idiot?

>>12132915
>it’s more trustworthy than /pol/.
Yeah because following an agenda is WAYYY more trustworthy than hours of time put into research, books and unheard documentaries, got it

>>12132915
Why would the mainstream media owned by Rothschild be more trustworthy than random anons

>>12132930
holocaust denial is pure agenda and 0% research, along with the vast majority of other /pol/ beliefs. are you an idiot?

>>12132933
Because anything mainstream has to be accountable to the public. If they lie, they will be called out by many people. In contrast, /pol/ shills have been telling the same retarded lies without evidence for years. Oh look, there’s one now
>muh Rothschilds
god damn you tards are funny

>>12132915
>the same way shit smells better than a corpse
They both are useless if you want to enjoy the pleasant aromas.

>>12132938
>Because anything mainstream has to be accountable to the public
Imagine believing this

>>12132935
Have you ever been to /pol/ more than a couple of minutes without seething out of there? Have you even asked for suggestions on what research they have found that influences their beliefs? Doesn't seem like it.

>>12132938
>If they lie, they will be called out by many people
Not if the media uses gaslighting techniques. It's pretty much happening now

>>12132950
>everyone on /pol/ believes the Rothschilds own the world’s central banks
>check the evidence for that claim
>there is literally zero
>conclude with near certainty that everyone on /pol/ is retarded
you make it easy since you all believe the same shit since ur npcs

>>12132938
>If they lie, they will be called out by many people.
They will not if they adhere to the party line.

>>12132972
>Dude you need wikipedia to tell me, not some people who did the research
Fucking hell you guys are so simple.

>>12132990
that’s one of the other things. you are so stupid you think you are fooling me by saying you found some secret research I couldn’t. you have to be retarded to think that’s gonna work.

>>12132867
The sad part is that you WILL do it. Ok, maybe you will be able to ignore the muzzle in some places, but your small business will still be destroyed, and in a short future you WILL get your tracing app. Welcome to the new normal!

>>12133007
"Secret research" LMAO
Secret research as in basic shit you could easily type into google and it's still present into it's database. Fuck

>>12133012
>The sad part is that you WILL do it. Ok, maybe you will be able to ignore the muzzle in some places, but your small business will still be destroyed, and in a short future you WILL get your tracing app. Welcome to the new normal

>>12133039
well I’ve done that and I’ll I’ve found was basically neonazi blogs claiming they own all but 4 central banks in the world. Not a shred of evidence anywhere, let alone proof.

>>12132938
>If they lie, they will be called out by many people.
they are. constantly. but you don't notice because you believe that everyone who calls them out is a "conspiracy theorist". millions and millions of people all calling out the mainstream media, and you are completely oblivious

>>12132164
>every /pol/ claim debunked hundreds of times
lmao how could this even be possible

>>12133048
Start here
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/100840383/#100840383
Work your way down.

>>12133067
if the evidence is only on /pol/, that means it isn’t evidence.

>>12130919
blacks have low iq
jews have high iq
jews are also bad people
this isn't hard to understand

>>12132178
it seems like your definition of stupidity is "people who disagree with me"
please talk to a therapist

>>12133067
>dude just spend an hour reading mentally retarded far right conjecture
no one is falling for this shit lmao

>>12132935
there is no empirical evidence for the holocaust
it is quite literally a conspiracy theory based entirely on confessions obtained from torture

>>12133079
What do you mean? It seems like you have a biased against them. You don't even want to give them the time. You want evidence? I gave you a link but you refuse to read it. You don't even have to agree with them. But it's good to have another persons and look into their research that they provided.

>>12133094
then why do only neonazi and muzz subhumans deny it. And how did you forget the literally thousands of photos, crime scenes, documents, and witnesses lmao

you simpletons are such insanely bad people.

>>12133089
You people are funny. Read the link retard

>>12130297
Many people don't want to believe bad things can happen for no reason.

>>12133067
there is no evidence at all in these links. it’s just a bunch of baseless claims. Are you retarded?

>>12130917
Holodomor is not an example of a USSR purge

>>12133126
How did you come to that conclusion so fast? You havent even read the fucking thing nor are you even attempting to go down the rabbit hole of it

>>12133114
>then why do only neonazi and muzz subhumans deny it
that's not an argument. plenty of intelligent people question the holocaust. it also happens to be illegal to question it in many countries so most people don't want to bring it up

>how did you forget the literally thousands of photos, crime scenes, documents, and witnesses
have you read the findings of the nuremberg trials? there is no hard evidence of a genocide conspiracy. the whole thing is based on the confessions that they obtained under torture. the deaths can be explained by starvation/disease and it's not scientific to create an elaborate conspiracy theory without compelling evidence

>>12133150
>plenty of intelligent people question the holocaust
there are literally none lol. communist genocides are illegal to deny in most of the same countries but you will NEVER, not even once, see a /pol/ incel denying a commie genocide. I wonder why that is.

>>12130297
>psychology
>science

>>12133168
lmao you have zero conterarguments are keep changing the subject nice work buddy

>>12133205
even if we completely ignore the body of evidence, holocaust deniers being neonazis and muslims is really convincing evidence it happened. if a historical event is actually in question you see a wide variety of people questioning, instead of just literally evil people pushing a political agenda

>>12133239
Are you saying muslims are evil?

>>12133239
here's an anti-Nazi propaganda film put out in the US after the war was over. you know what's weird? it spends 17 minutes demonizing Germans with all sorts of made up nonsense, but doesn't mention the Holocaust whatsoever. kind of a funny oversight don't you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2YenLG_rQ

>>12133281
you know what’s weird? how several million jewish people disappeared off the Earth right around the same time tens of thousands of witnesses saw nazis shooting them, putting them in camps, and burying them in mass graves. also weird how Hitler was obsessed with jews. The posen speeches are weird too. Lots of weird coincidences.

I can’t believe I’m actually arguing with a holocaust denier kek. you’re basically flat earthers.

>>12130297

You would have been much better to start the thread off by clarifying obviously false conspiracies, or people who believe in them on faith/without any evidence.

Obviously some conspiracies are legitimate and many have been confirmed true. Obviously some conspiracies are incorrect and totally false and baseless.

People in this thread who are hard stance one or the other are just as bad as each other, and are being manipulated by their own prejudice without any good reason.

>>12132861
>If you’re an idiot and you had an agenda, what you were doing wasn’t research, it was brainwashing yourself
>No matter how manny years you spend researching creationism, it’s still wrong and can be debunked almost effortlessly.
ironic your stupidity is staggering

>>12133306
it's okay. they didn't actually disappear. they found them again. just a simple counting error. soviet communists made a lot of mistakes like that

>>12130914
This is easily the funniest post on /sci/ right now

A big part of it is modern technology.
/pol/, which has been a continuous neonate circlejerk for several years now, plays a small roll in this, but the real killer is social media.
A combination of bot posts and algorithmic targeting means that blatant misinformation is drowning out pretty much everyything else on these platforms and algorithmic targeting ensures it is served up to all the most credulous, brain-dead npcs available, who then feed the algorithm by interacting with the content and thus facilitate further spread amongst thier retarded friends.

>>12130885
High iq take

>>12132861
> Mainstream ideas and major corporations are many, many times more trustworthy than /pol/.
> You’re an NPC dude.
The irony of calling other people NPC’s while you just regurgitate stuff you learned in highschool

>>12130317
Classic dunning-kreuger arrogant pseud response.

>>12132250
Conspiracies /= conspiracy theories. Conspiracies happen, but people forming an entire culture on the internet and in real life around believing in them is a sociological phenomenon in and of itself.

>>12130297
>>12130317
You're like sub-100 IQ and don't have adequate critical thinking/research skills if you don't believe in any conspiracies at all.

>>12134906
>if you don't believe in any conspiracies at all.
I "believe" in proven conspiracies, not conspiracy theories

>>12134918
Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Willfully ignorant *unless* what you meant by the word 'proven' is sufficient evidence not by authority admission.

>>12134927
What's an "authority admission" or an "authority"? Anyone you perceive as benefiting from your conspiracy theory?

>>12134928
Yeah, or someone above them. Depends on the conspiracy. There's tons.

>>12134939
How does a random engineer or a scientist benefit from debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories?

spirit, get it? spirit-science.

>>12134951
It's fun. Helps you gain some perspective and not be a useful idiot. You probably just need to learn a few lessons and be done with it. I get your point if you're trying to say "this thread is unrelated." Hope your post wasn't sarcasm 'cause I'm all serious and stuff rn. I swear I don't have autism.

>>12130297
People you know get to see make multiple systematic society impacting decisions that affect the way average joe lives.
Some of these decisions negatively affect Joe and his way of living.
What does Joe know?
He doesnt so he calls it a conspiracy against him.
All there is to it.

>>12134959
Yeah, my reading comprehension is 0 atm. Idk, brownie points. Think back to when you were a kid, you would do shit that was mainstream to be cool or w/e. IMO, it's the same. Remember, no one wants to be fired or w/e by saying anything even a bit offbeat.

>>12134963
People you dont know get to make*

>>12134964
>Think back to when you were a kid, you would do shit that was mainstream to be cool or w/e.
Or maybe 9/11 conspiracy theories are completely dumb and don't hold up when examined by people who know what they are talking about?

>>12134974
Maybe read my entire comment again and keep an open mind.

>>12134981
>keep an open mind.
It's conspiracy theorists who don't have an open mind. If you had an open mind, you wouldn't be a conspiracy theorist.

>>12134992
Ok

>>12130334
>The government, the institution you think is the big bad evil thing, told you about the real conspiracies.
how naive can you get? Like they could never have done bad shit that they never told you about because it was much worse and more relevant, or because the records were never even made. Ponder that the government did 9/11. You think they would tell you?

>>12132250
Most of what you mentioned is non-controversial. No one is ridiculed for believing mundane stuff. Stop trying to equivocate.

>>12131322
No, does it mean that everyone else is a gangster without evidence?

>>12130573
>it requires intelligence to look at pieces and put together a puzzle.
It requires stupidity to put together pieces that don't fit and think you've solved the puzzle.

>>12130297
Realistically, there is a venn diagram of real conspiracies, the lies governments tell, and what overlaps

You also have different levels of intelligence involved.

When you have shit like flat earth, you have obviously retarded non-rational individuals involved.

But really are banker cartels/family funneling their money towards political ends really any kind of stretch at all?

Just look at all the obvious, recorded shit the US has done that is conspiracy theory worthy, overthrowing countries etc.

>>12130885
You confuse conspiracy theory with conspiracy. What separates them is not personality but evidence and reason.

>>12131299
Continuum fallacy. Try again.

>>12131380
>>conspiracies don't exist!
Who are you quoting?

>>12130297
The word 'conspiracy theorist' is part of a psyop by the FBI meant to stigmatize people criticizing the government.
Most of the 'retarded' conspiracies you on the Net are specifically created to make the legit stuff look dumb. There's a reason you've probably never met a flat earther IRL.

>>12130297
lot of long nosed glowies in this thread

>>12135041
>condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance
>height of ignorance
This would be talking about you gimp

>>12135060
(you)

>>12135175
this site is filled with people who are just as dumb as flat earthers. neo-nazi conspiracies are no more intelligent than that, or are even sometimes less.

NPCS (You) = repeat the narrative(s)

Owners (them) = offer 3 narratives (justWorld, polarizedA, polarizedZ)

You are an NPC. You are a lemming. You repeat what the authority says on the basis of memorization and Authority. If you are 'edgy' you become addicted to following one of two Polarized Options.
In all three scenarios, your obedience and emotion far outweigh your rational critical thinking.

>>12135441
yes this site is full of addcited NPCs.
/sci isn't even a science board.
4chan is built on the model, of triggering,/polarizing pictures/subjects/posts
Users who buy-in get a dopamine response.
/sci is the same model, it just loosely uses a science or math general topic in most posts.
/sci has very few posts that don't follow the formula, and they generally do very poorly in participation and in analytics/ad-revenue.

>>12133349
I’ve seen this debunked so many times and I haven’t even sought it out. That number was never part of the western historical holocaust. How come /pol/ keeps repeating lies even after hundreds of people have told them they’re wrong? Pretty strange behavior for people who claim to want truth. Could it be like all extremists you’re just evil, stupid liars?

>>12135466
This used to be a decent science board with minimal memes/jokes and lots of informed posts. /pol/ has infected and ruined this board like others.

>>12135049
I think you'll have to elaborate.

>>12135037
It means that
>This person is a gangster, he committed crimes before. So if there are rumors that he committed more crimes, it is a real possibility even without 100% evidence
is a sound logic, but
>How dare you even imply that this literally saint can commit any crime? You should wear a tinfoil hat!
isn't.

>>12135480
>>12135475
lol stfu nerd

>>12135475
but the problem is precisely that the historical holocaust narrative rests on unverifiable claims made by the soviet communists

>>12135842
>(((soviet communists)))
FTFY

>>12130317
>>12130334
You guys do realize every crime case that goes through detective work and court hearings and ends with a prison sentence started out as a conspiracy theory, right?

>>12130297
>What is the science behind conspiracy theorist psychology?
Gaslighting the masses.
It does not refer to any specific case. It refers to a general way to make questioning the narrative sound ridiculous. Non '/sci' people are generally not smart enough to make this distinction and repeatedly return to specific examples that happen to trigger them, rather than grasp the concept.

>>12135842
>>12135881
more images I’ve seen debunked dozens or even hundreds of times. you really are as stupid as everyone says.

>>12135940
>being this kosher

>>12130297
Conspiracy Theory or Conspiracy Hypothesis?

>>12135956
thanks for adding more proof to the moon sized pile of proof that /pol/cunts and SJWs are two sides of the same coin.

>>12135940
>debunked
are you saying that there are death camps for which the evidence does not depend on claims made by the soviet communists? people tend to be stunned when they learn that the infamous "gas chamber" they show the tourists at auschwitz was constructed by the soviets in 1948, three years after the war had ended. not that they tell the tourists that...

>>12136076
>not that they tell the tourists that...
Then how come the official visitor website says it?
http://auschwitz.org/en/visiting/permanent-exhibition/gas-chamber-i

>>12136076
Shouldn’t the fact that the Nazis tried to cover up their crimes by destroying their camps and burning evidence make you more certain the holocaust happened instead of less? Personally if I had 100k witnesses all telling me the same exact stuff, plus trial confessions and photos and dozens of other things and the accused tried to burn down the site where their crime was committed, I would consider that very compelling proof they are guilty.

Holocaust denial is legitimately one of the least intelligent beliefs ever. It gives creationism a fun for its money. What amazes me the most though is how obviously it’s motivated by agenda and people act like it’s “skeptic.”

>>12136111
rather than admitting that there is no evidence you cling to utter nonsense like "w-well, we would have proof, but the Nazis destroyed everything and burned it all down. you'll just have to take our word for it". a great conspiracy theory, to be sure. but without the force of hollywood propaganda it would not be a commonly held one

'conspiracy theory' does not refer to one specific example, but is a general way those in power gaslight the masses
Since you mongrels are obssesed w/ jew, and can't discuss the general psychology of manipulation, here is an example
"ZOG Conspiracy Theory"
If you were to ask "why/'hey do you notice that' jews rule gov't banking business and media through nepotism"??
= a dangerous question with a factual, rational basis. Upsetting for the powerful, and for the NPCS.

So that uncomfortable rational question is then psychologically altered and lumped in with "and the holocaust is fake", and/or "there's a secret white-genocide (or islam genocide, or christian genocide, depending on the target group of NPCs)??
So now, followers can say "hey that is ridiculous", and schizos can say "holocaust fake, white genocide", and powerful beneficiaries can say "lol don't be a schizo"...
do you get it now? The psychology is a method that gaslights any uncomfortable questions/objections that the masses may have by co-opting the question, controlling the discussion, and perverting the objectionable side, and then offering two options to the masses.
nothing to do with jews or blacks or whites or planetary shape... it's a general psychological tool.

>>12136187
If you want to seriously discuss something moderate, you need to normalize the extreme version of it. Otherwise your enemies will make your moderate position extreme.

>>12136165
>no evidence
Then why the fuck do all professional historians say there is evidence? In what fantasy world is it possible for something as massive as a genocide to be fake? list at least 4 other historical events you deny happened. you don’t to worry about evidence since the holocaust almost definitely has more evidence than anything you could list. since you’re a /pol/ inbred let’s test your honesty: name a few false communist war crimes/genocides. all of them have less evidence than the holocaust by orders of magnitude.

also why do you believe Jesus existed? one guy wrote about him, that’s it. is that suddenly enough?

>>12136187
> jews rule gov't banking business
none of those things are 1% true. you are the NPC anon. 90% of Congress/senate is white Christian.

>>12136064
>jewing this hard

>>12130297
schizophrenia

>>12135049
Thanks for highlighting what's wrong with his post. It's amazing how many words humanities students can write without ever questioning the meaning of the words they use.

>>12136272
they don't. but they also know better than to ask for evidence

>>12136285
False

>>12136464
/pol/ npcs are the very last people permitted to use the word false.

>>12136477
go away jew you are transparent as glass every post you make

the funniest part about holocaust denial is that they’re claiming a separate event occurred: the faking of a genocide. planned and kept quiet among tens of thousands of people who knew the truth. neo-nazis do not require even one piece of evidence to believe in this fake historical event lol. what was it? Telepathy?

>>12136509
go away jew you are transparent as glass every post you make

>>12136509
it's more accurate to call them schindler's list deniers. the average person is not equipped to have a discussion about history. but they've all seen the movie

>>12136536
the average /pol/yp is less educated on the holocaust than a person who has only seen a Hollywood movie lol. Granted, that’s because /pol/yps are retarded and has very little to do with education, for better or for worse.

>>12136536
>that image
>a Protestant lied and said they had jewish family members to cash in
yikes, read the full story next time before you collect something for propaganda. you embarrassing dimwit

>>12136494
>>12136520
is this meant to be ironic? I can never tell with /pol/. irony looks the same as the lower limit of intelligence

>>12136509
almost as outrageous as believing the genocide conspiracy theory without any hard evidence
such a coincidence that we believe the winner's account of history this time

>>12136111
>trial confessions
lmao do people still believe this shit

>>12133239
>make something illegal to question
>indoctrinate children from a young age
yeah I'm sure people's belief about the holocaust is completely organic

>>12133306
nothing you are posting is true

>>12136988
>>12136991
>>12137007
>>12137012
Allow me to remind you clinically unintelligent /pol/ creatures that no matter how much time you spend shilling on the internet you will never find a single triple digit IQ member. You have the lowest average IQ of any political movement in human history.

>>12136988
The holocaust has by far the most evidence of any genocide. Second place doesn’t even come close. Furthermore, if you read denier arguments for other genocides you will have the amusing moment of realizing they all use identical arguments. In turns out, people who deny genocides are literally ALWAYS evil people with an agenda against the victim demographic(s), and they ALWAYS have lower intelligence than retarded puppies.

>>12137023
reminder that only midwits get ensnared in Jewish lies. low and high IQ see right through them

>>12137098
how would it even be a Jewish lie btw? if anything the holocaust would have to be more of a “white lie” since it was brought to light in countries and peoples with few or no jews. there are very little or no jews in any of the governments which have made commie/neetsoc genocide denial illegal.

>>12137113
indeed. but we'll have to leave it there because implying that democratic governments aren't 100% in charge and a shadowy network of central banks, ngos and the international media have outsized control over the affairs of nations with a little help from within is considered to be anti-semitic conspiracy theory

The science is that the people in the cult like it when the cult law says other people have to do what they say but as soon as the law says they have to do what I say, me: the person with rank 47 in Scottish freemansonry which is the rank that only God will ever have, suddenly the law of the cult is tarded and wrong. I agree, by the way: it is tarded and wrong.

>>12137041
The most fabricated* evidence, you mean to say