/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12107439

first for wheeee

Why didn't they put SN7.1 on the actual test stand?

>>12107453
They are blowing it up

>>12107453
I assume the new stand is the "high risk" stand

>>12107446

We now know that if NASA actually does go ahead with their planned moon base it's going to cause a shtistorm among the wokeinati,especially if private companies are involved. They act like buying some dirt is some kind of profane act of ultimate evil-the idea of filthy real estate on the moon will give them a real case of the vapors.

>>12107497
Good. I hope their heads literally explode. The more of them die of anger induced strokes or aneurysms the fewer there will be to revolt when they realize their rioting isn't doing shit for their cause.

>>12107497
K no one cares stop reading Twitter

If von Braun could have lived to see the stagnation and rot in space innovation the decades since Apollo, what would he have said, if anything?

Also can someone make a punished Wernher out of pic related?

>>12107548
https://youtu.be/4aSEVKvC65Y
u can get a sense from this interview. it's depressing to hear his thoughts on apollo's cancellation

>>12107548
"We warned you about der juden, bro."

>>12107497
Honestly who gives a fuck. Best timeline would be if some woke bastard or bitch tried and succeeds to pass a law barring NASA from taking dirt back, and china does it. So Elon goes and does it anyways. The cope would be real and republicans would immediately become pro space-mining, not to mention NASA would be dragged to court and defend elon because of the scientific value and national risk of other countries doing it

>>12107562
>republicans would immediately become pro space-mining
>would become
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/13/space-exploration-back-asteroid-mining-next-gold-rush/

>>12107559
>there may be a ten year gap or so

ooof

>>12107562
For real, who are these fuckers trying to claim we are pushing our "colonialism" on when we are pushing out to the empty vacuum of space? I will laugh my ass off when normal people colonize the barren wasteland, make it into an economic and ecological oasis, and then progressives try to go only once it gets nice. That way WE can claim they are pushing colonialism on US. Fucking hypocrites lmao

>>12107577
Kek I haven’t thought of that. They want nothing to do with it, but as soon as we have a thriving population they will want to bring artists and english majors and BLM trannies. Good news is we have free rooms for them in the airlocks!

>>12107573
yeah...he knew. there was real pain in those words

https://astronomy.com/news/2020/09/rodents-in-space-keeping-bone-and-muscle-strong-on-the-iss


So uh this potentially changes everything right? If it works-
>no or reduced long-term spaceflight danger to human body
>no need for so many exercise machines taking up space or for exercising in space at all
>artificial/makeshift gravity becomes less of a priority/necessity for humans in space
>long term stays in space/moon become more viable and possible with proper radiation shielding

Would be cool to see custom made pills in the future which maintain a persons initial muscle mass/bone density +5 or 10% more for good measure so you don't bulk up ridiculously but just maintain your Earthbound mass, I think that would make returning to gravity easier to handle as well, apart from the disorientation effects.

Shit this is looking too good to be true, but how fucking cool is it that it's thanks to SpaceX that these guys finally got to test their stuff on the ISS

>>12107577
Regardless of how nice it gets, it still will be pretty tough, akin to living in Antarctica. Hard times make strong men, these trannies could never survive in Antarctica, let alone the Moon or Mars. Dumbasses will be bred out of existence in the colonies for a long while

>>12107596
By far, the greatest thing SpaceX has ever delivered is hope.

>>12107596
Forget SpaceX, every high school and university would institute mandatory 3 hour daily workouts and then office workers would be prescribed this shit on Earth. Fatty plague gone forever.

>>12107596
it was never a big deal anyway, but sure it helps. this would let you stay superhuman if you went to mars, instead of atrophying in adaptation to lower gravitational stress

>>12107596
it's a ways off but seeing such strong early progress in this is encouraging.

>>12107607
i'm still gonna eat my cupcakes, anon

>>12107608
its a super big deal, microgravity wrecks the human body, any way we can combat this to allow us to adapt to living in space in microgravity is a huge deal

imagine getting to enjoy the benefits and fun of 0g with none of the long-term body weakness, bone/muscle density loss risk

>>12107615
it's not.

>>12107617
it's

>>12107599
I've been to the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station and I can tell you without a doubt Mars will be better. There's actual rock to live off of. Not just a little, but all around you. You have to ship EVERYTHING into the south pole because it's a desert with altitude; a frozen wasteland where everything is covered by kilometers of ice. You don't have to deal with that on Mars. Sure, it won't be self-sufficient at first. But ISRU will likely blow up exponentially and living off the land will likely become viable within the first three generations of inhabitants

>>12107607
yfw fat doesn't atrophy either. fatties forever

>>12107619
there's this thing that happens when you get back in the influence of gravity after being in low gravity. it's called adapting to gravity. it only takes about a month to adapt to gravity again you fucking retard

>>12107604
>By far, the greatest thing SpaceX has ever delivered is hope.
Fuck that hits deep.
Ever since Elon sent his car into space for the meme it seems that the hope for space exploration has been rekindled.

>>12107621
interesting point. strange we haven't built any self-sustaining bases on the parts of Antarctica that do have exposed rock, I feel that would be a good analog.

>>12107630
I wasn't trying to be poetic or anything lol. It's just nice having a man who can do so much, and who isn't in it for the gooberment contracts. Watching elon go full von braun has rekindled the excitement I used to get as a kid going to the library and reading DK books on spaceflight. His autism triggers my autism

>>12107641
this is the same feeling i get when two penises touch

>>12107644
Fucking based ngl

>>12107644
>/sfg/: ancient greece edition

is it going to pop?

>>12107621
>You have to ship EVERYTHING into the south pole because it's a desert with altitude
More like because it's plain cheaper and more convenient to ship everything from the main land than try to make/grow it on site. Not so much in case of Mars.

>>12107654
hey, what time is 7.1 test

>>12107615
Microgravity is harmless

Tesla’s are the travis scott meals of vehicles

bros when can we synthesize fresh mountain air in spaceships

>>12107683
No no no, mountain air is half an atm and gives you nosebleeds. It’s all about the recycled air. That or breathable liquids that taste like san pelegrino.

>>12107685
>not having mountain adaptation genes in 20 fucking 20
bro wtf

>>12107687
I rolled and got southern RNGenes at birth. Never gonna make it.

>>12107615
>>12107619
>>12107662
But anon, how will we discover the northwest passage if our crew is not well fed with organic onions and consuming a daily well-balanced breakfast?

>i dont want to go to space if i get skinny, i wanna be a chubby fat astroblimp
Fucking americans

do you want fries with that on your way to jupiter? do you want a fucking vanilla shake? you dont need to be the mass of a whale if you're not gonna be on earth for fucking years you inflated nigger. there's no ocean in the void of space. mr whale. europa is a long way away
>OOooo make sure we allocate payload mass to my lard stores and 10yr supply of big macs

you fat piece of shit, i hope your cells starve and eat away at your atrophied brain

>>12107692
Is YOUR flag on the moon Ivan? Then shut the fuck up.

>>12107694
>nationalist fervor
>doesn't mention the whole point of the post which is you are a fat bitch pussy who doesnt want to go to space because you might get skinny

uh oh anon, are you an obese boi?

>>12107449
https://youtu.be/TGMWdtQYkbc?t=125

>>12107692
Lol I hate Eurotrash. You fuckers are always so smug yet when shit happens in your shithole countries you freak out.

>>12107697
I actually used to be. I think i broke 100lbs in elementary school. My bmi is good now thank god

>>12107700
Never understood this, are you supposed to ride this after the rocket explodes on the pad? If not, will the rocket be detanked before you go ziplining? I imagine it would be a bad day if the rocket was exploding just before or during your ride down.

>>12107707
just go before it explodes lmao

>>12107694
>>12107703
>ivan
>eurotrash
i'm actually trying to make a point about the swath of american public that are pussies who say we shouldnt go to space because muh atrophy (same crowd as the muh radiation). pussies, all of them. apologize for the generalization, i know you are the good kind of americans

>>12107708
how do you know if it's gonna blow?!

>>12107707
I think it’s for the brief time when you’re loading in and the ninjas are still there helping you strap up. If the rocket senses an imminent fuck up it offers a quick way down before you’re loaded up and the launch escape system can fire

>>12107718
check if it says boeing anywhere

>>12107723

>>12107718
If it explodes just load the latest autosave and ride to safety before it explodes

>>12107721
>mission control requests evac
>doug just steps out of dragon
>launch escape triggers
>doug engulfed in hypergolic exhaust
>bob yeeted skyward
>dragon spinning violently, door still open
>bob flung from the vehicle
yfw face when

dynamic lighting that isn't janky and broken as shit like enginelight when?

>>12107497
>but what will she sjws say
Take a break form 4chan anon

>>12107582
Thanks for proving them right I guess. I love space x but these threads have attracted too many /pol/tards

https://youtu.be/JK4RbeBxqso

>>12107582
space redneck

uhhh dont mind the fairings bros

>>12107740
>Thanks for proving them right I guess. I love space x but these threads have attracted too many /pol/tards

>implying /pol/tards weren't a major part of the original audience

>>12107740
What’s up with all of this left wing spam on 4Chan lately? Is it bait or tourists or what?

>>12107761
bro

do capsules usually reenter with heads down or heads up
i've always done it heads up but I just realized you can actually see the horizon if you do it heads down

>>12107742
>big swastika
on the moon?

>>12107740
>Prominent space policy advocate with a lot of political power tweets something insane about space exploration and we mock it
Not him but i'm not from /pol/ and that Emily Lakdawalla tweet should be ridiculed mercilessly.

>>12107439
Imagine the sound

>>12107767
Election year brings them out. Problem is that most of the retards continue to come here afterwards.

>>12107786
ok someone explain to me. is it a 7.1m hop or a 7.1 bar pop? also which sn is it? it cant have a sn if it's just a test tank

>>12107781
This is colonialism.

>>12107795
its popping into 7.1 pieces

>>12107795
SN7.1

>>12107801
you cant have .1 piece! absurd

>>12107803
ok now you're just yanking my chain

>>12107795
afaik the goal is >8 bar.

>>12107804
>ok now you're just yanking my chain
No, the test article is definitely SN 7.1, we know this from Musky's twitter

>>12107833
ol musky that rascal

was there a particular reason why they went with this paintjob?

>>12107859
Black and white rectangles has been traditional rocket paint since the V-2.

>>12107859
Telemetry was shit in those days so they needed high contrast paintjob for visual tracking

>>12107859
Easier for ground instrumentation to track the roll of the vehicle while in flight. Think of the checkered backdrops sometimes used for reference in research that uses high-speed photography.

>>12107865
>>12107869
ah
makes sense

>>12107842
Reminder that Raptor engines are also referred to using the same numbering scheme

>>12107903
At the very least, the raptors are always going to be a way higher SN than any SS/SH prototypes. We're already at, what, Raptor SN29?

>>12107621
SpaceX could practice resupply missions by resupplying the Amundsen-Scott base with Starship

>>12107916
SN44, two weeks ago

>Jeff Bozo actually paying attention to Blue Origin and kicking ass so they get shit done
>SpaceX working on high fidelity prototypes of Starship
is it happening
is this the acceleration

>>12107903
the test stands too

>>12107926

>>12107926

PRAISE

thank you Nomadd for the pretty pictures and insane ramblings

>>12107970
it looks kinda goofy

>>12107980
it looks huge

>>12107981
why do u think they didnt go with the big concrete block/flame diverter they showed in the boca chica rendering

>>12107985
why didn't they go with the huge stainless framework they started building in Florida?

>>12107987
you mean the flame diverter? that was the same diverter from the rendering

>>12107767
The edgy teenagers posting about epic swastika satellites to own the libs started appearing after the SpaceX demo mission though.

>>12107970
Nice cock sleeve

oh shit bros, I finally found some satellite parts with foil and shit that actually come in useful shapes and don't look awful

>>12108045
nice blog

>>12108051
ty :)

>>12107559
>fully reusable 2-stage tug
>at 1/10 of Apollo
>semi-permanent moon installation
He'd absolutely love Starship. I miss him bros

redpill me on silver vs gold insulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwS5rW_-RU

Angry Astronaut is absolutely right about memeship fags. Starship is absolutely the best spaceship currently in development though

>>12107937
Amazon hired a Space Force general recently so I think Jeff finally had someone explain to him how fast he needed to be moving on BO.

>>12108077
Starship's weakness for high orbits basically vanishes if you use kickstages. Pic related can be done with two Starship launches for $4 million. For sending Starship sized objects to Mars, I think it's about optimal unless you upgrade to a nuclear lightbulb.

>>12108070
I like Silver better because the wild Pokemon selection fits my play style better.

>>12107776
Apollo was rotated to allow a lifting entry - the CM had an offset centre of mass to allow the CM to generate lift (and so "turn") in different directions depending on the rotation of the capsule.
This lowers the max-G on the crew compared to a purely ballistic entry at the cost of a longer time spent in rentry.

ayy

>>12108103
It also allows steering the capsule to a more precise landing

what's with this BLM rocket?

>>12108116
Go back to pol, get better bait.

>>12108119
how rude!

>>12108112
>Found lying by the side of the road is specifically defined by some parts of unknown origin
Explains everything really. They're not really docking ports, they're UFO power sources.

>>12108116
Constantly scrubbing isn't cheap so I guess they need a new grift. Please donate.

>>12108077
>Angry Astronaut
I've watched a couple of his videos, the dude isn't even qualified to call a journeyman. Unironically on the level of a slightly below average /sfg/ poster.

As for Starship's limitations, I'm not watching that trash but there's a lot of room to work within the over an order of magnitude decrease in $/orbit. If you're cross-shopping something like BO with vastly inferior first stage performance and the cost of throwing away an entire hydromeme booster, you would come out far ahead just using the spare capacity for fuel (or a kick stage ala >>12108084 ) on Starship instead.

>>12108116
Blown Launches Matter

>>12108123
>>12108131
Does this Astra company fail so often?

>>12108134
They do nothing but scrub. We're starting to think that rocket up in Kodiak is nothing but a plastic prop.

>>12107548
I think at first he'd be shocked how much we lost interest. The extraordinary budget and support for spacefaring that the cold war brought, lasted over decades and surely felt normal for people like him, to some degree. I'm sure he was introduced to Moore's Law and similar observations and this alone would let expectations for an additional timeframe of 50 or so years go way past what we are achieving today.

That being said I'm sure the cold war didn't get hot after all and he'd kind of know how extraordinary the situation of his actually was.
But still, in his lifetime he saw rockets evolve from pyrotechnical models to the Saturn V.

What I'm actually curious about is what he'd thing about oldspace and SpaceX at this point.
Did Armstrong ever make a second statement?

How did the test go?

>>12108116
I though Alaskan were least ccked or are they from Cali.

>>12108164
Worse, San Fran. They only launch from Kodiak.

>>12108165
Or well, scrub from Kodiak.

>>12108149
SN7.1? Cryotested, no pop. No idea how many bars.

>>12108165
Hope they burn down.

>>12108168
That's what happened to Rocket 3.0 during dress rehearsal.

>>12108134
at least they are still trying. All the other DARPA Rapid Launch competitors dropped out, even Virgin Orbit who are also at the test phase of their air-launched rocket.

The BLM decal is a bit weird though. I wonder what motivated them to do that?

>>12108270
They haven't had a launch since 2018. They need attention.

>>12108270
It’s a grift, same as anyone who supports the movement BLM.

>>12107577
>colonialism
I still can't comprehend that there are people with this mindset of space colonialism being bad because "muh columubs, muh slaves, muh brown people". It's like the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.
There's fucking
nothing
there
How is it a negative thing at all if we set up shop there? Maybe if it was a planet full of unintelligent aliens I could see the backlash, but it's fucking empty rock with (once we get there) free resources. I swear to God these so called progressives just want us to stay on earth and never actually make progress so that they can continue to complain about us not making anymore progress.

>>12108346
Now you know why I hate these fucking rover missions and everyone involved in them.

>>12108126
he's kinda creepy too

>>12108348
Honestly Musk needs to focus more on Neuralink and get rid of stupidity

>>12108346
you can't just take moon land anon, it's not yours! the mooners were here long before you!

>>12108370

>>12108346
>never actually make progress so that they can continue to complain about us not making anymore progress
Explains why the lot of them despise carbon-free nuclear fission, it solves their energy problem and they wouldn't need to whine anymore. But since there's no power/money in solving the problem, they will instead whine for eternity

>>12107439
>>12107446
>>12107474
Did it pop? I thought testing was delayed till the 14th

"...former NASA Admin
@cboldenjr
predicts “SLS will go away” as private heavy-lift rockets catch up."
https://twitter.com/lauraforczyk/status/1304380404699406336

Boing BTFO

>>12108379
omg this is so sad anon, oppression before our eyes and we let it happen. the mooners needed those dirt pooper scoopers, and you denied them

>>12108381
No pop, it had some frosting.

>>12108382
SLS IS REAL
SLS WILL GO AWAY

>>12108382

>>12108380
>But since there's no power/money in solving the problem, they will instead whine for eternity
well that's not true. It would be disgustingly economically beneficial to the entire world to solve the energy problem, but those specific people who write books and make their political careers off climate change would be out of a job, so instead everyone has to suffer.

>>12107740
>>12107745
Way to samefag. If it makes you happy I won’t bring it up again... but in MY OPINION it’s important when famous people start tweeting from the hip and comparing spaceflight to colonialism. They’re trying to cancel Artemis and Starship. What the fuck do you want asshole- would you like it better if NASA only did climate science and all we had to talk about in this general was the 0.000215 ppm increase in CO2 reflectance over the atlantic because that’s the only satellite NASA is allowed to launch?

>>12108346
Anon, if humanity unlocks the infinite ressources of space and starts settling dead rocks you can‘t be emo about the human condition anymore.
>noooo you can‘t just dump waste on a rock being perfectly still in literal nowhere
>noooo, there is no infinite growth, muh Club or Rome
>noooo, you can‘t just destroy the nature of other places that have no nature
>STOP DOING SPACE!

>>12108380
>>12108397
You don't fucking get it. Little Miss Colonialism works on rovers. It's not in her interest to send people off to other stellar bodies. If we start doing that, she's out of the limelight.

>>12107767
>noo you can‘t just actually talk back to me
>muh right-wing safe space
>HELP! HELP! HE WANTS LIVING WAGES FOR PEOPLE AND AN ATMOSHPERE SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE VENUS TEMPERATURES!

>>12108398
it kinda like that lady has progressive tourettes, boiling down something to a buzzword that they just blurt at the slightest resemblence to incite a response. it's all about likes and pandering. remember it's a super minority opinion, things will work out for elon and friends, they have real power

>>12108399
The most mind boggling thing is that you go on some of these people's twitter profiles or whatever, and it'll be like "huge trekkie/star wars/sci-fi fan" but then they hate space travel? It unironically has to be something in the water that makes people double think so easily without even having a hint of self-awareness.

SpaceX lunar sample return mission when?

Elon needs a big moon rock for a ring. So he can make Jeff Bozo kiss it.

>>12108403
Kek I disagree with left politics but this made me laugh

>>12108407
never, jeff will get there first! but there's a catch
>jeff bozo arrested for mooner colonialism, fortune seized, granted to rover lesbian

>>12108407
When BFR flies there.

I find it funny that if Von Braun we’re still kicking it today and working on Artemis, twitter would call him a fascist Nazi for wanting to bring back rocks. Like, i’m pretty sure it was using jewish slaves to build rockets to bomb London that made him a fascist nazi hahahah. Bringing back rocks for science is probably the most neutral scientific thing you could do. The goalpost has moved at lightspeed

>>12108160
Anon, this crop gave me cancer

>>12108126
Yeah same, he's just a guy trying to capitalize off the demand for space. Dude doesn't have a fucking clue. His vids are occasionally cathartic as a mental break though. And I really do need more space content. Matt lowne is pretty nice, at least he kinda knows his stuff from KSP lol.

>>12108420
The debate is not about "bringing back rocks"

>>12108405
They probably think it's a waste of money to invest in space flight until scifi-like tech gets invented and it becomes cheap.

>>12108420
Ze rockets went up, who cared where ze came down? 'That's not my department', said Werner von Braun.

>>12108430
>The debate
redditor face dot jaypeg

I want to believe in Elon but fucking hell 2022 is so close, no way he'll be able to pull this off

>>12108445
second it, delays r inevitable

>>12108420
>>12108441
Later, von Braun would comment: "I have very deep and sincere regret for the victims of the V-2 rockets, but there were victims on both sides ... A war is a war, and when my country is at war, my duty is to help win that war."

>>12108445
>malaysia airlines 370 crashed 6 years ago
2022 will come and go and I wont even notice it
I freaked out the other day when I found out its been that long
I must be retarded

>>12108444
debate me bro debate me bro

>>12108445
if elon doesn't hit the 2022 deadline, spacex will go bankrupt. show's over bros

>>12108430
What is it about then? Only other thing I can think of is “sending private companies to sell moon dust” and/or “staking our territory on the moon”. the former is literally for science, it’s not like they are setting up capitalist mining companies; they’re selling rocks to NASA. The latter won’t really happen until a permanent base is established

>>12108454
but there're f9 and fheavy still

>>12108445
2022 is the date to keep the eggheads and mexicans at pace. The disappointment of the public when the date slips is acceptable collateral. Compare and contrast "muh gradatim ferociter" and you see the reasoning.

>>12108445
2025*

>>12108444
Chéqued
>>12108450
He can’t stop winning bros. If I remember correctly he had an affair with a french girl and she got arrested by the Nazis, and he wasn’t reprimanded at all. He then went on to marry his first cousin. Cost-plus contracting for his giant dong

>>12108464
>>12108445
i roll my eyes when people say this about the 2024 moon landing. the point is there's an actual goal, rather than kicking the can down the road 10 or 20 years (ie never). lights a fire under ppl asses so if you miss the date you might make it a year or 2 or 5 later

>>12108409
Well that was my goal.
I just wish people would talk about issues and solutions instead of the character and the virtues of the people presenting them as an easy way to shut down discussion.

Looks like all of LabPadre's cameras are broken.

>>12107449
>Tfw RMC gets contracted to make a tower escape system

>>12108458
Yeah it's the space resources/territory side.
There's basically no law or international consensus on how all of this will work from a legal point of view.
As far as I understand, the "Colonialism!!!1" commenters on twitter fear that NASA saying "we buy Moon rocks" is a slippery slope to how the world worked during the Age of Exploration, essentially First Come, First Served. Ideally, some other way could be found, though I don't think that's realistic.

>>12108445
I think it's possible, but maybe less than 50% chance. As long as there aren't anymore gay lockdowns, or blm riots, and I honestly just hope America doesn't erupt into pure chaos with the election, then it could happen.

>>12108454
>if they don't hit 2022 it's over
They could literally coast off of f9 for the next decade or two thanks to the military contracts they secured (which is crazy, usually only ULA is allowed to have those)

>>12108505
Joys of vertical integration: basically none of that shit matters to SpaceX or its facilities, where things have been going just fine in a year where the populace is convinced the sky is falling down.

https://spacenews.com/northrop-grumman-to-terminate-omega-rocket-program/
Rip.

>>12108492
ULA sniper strikes again

>>12108525
https://spacenews.com/raytheon-wins-contract-to-connect-military-aircraft-to-commercial-internet-satellites/
We Ace Combat now

>>12108521
That is true, but I don't think they could support themselves if America erupted into complete civil war or something, even if that is unlikely. I Honestly wonder what Musk would do if America started falling apart.

>>12108534
We Terminator now.

>>12108526
real talk- the explosion cause is still inconclusive right? or for sure was copv issue? ula maybe really did snipe, or maybe blue origin snipe. in return bozo brovides be4 to bruno

>>12108504
I almost literally strain my brain trying to think of their argument though. Are they mad at capitalist america? Would they prefer some gay space communism on the Moon? Or do they want it to be left alone. Literally all those options are retarded except the first one where the USA goes and promoted the rule of law and american values

Mandatory viewing (it’s a short video):
https://youtu.be/mJEBgjQIekE

>>12108534
I just got to the bit in 7 where the satellites get taken down. Spooky.

>>12108547

>>12108547
>USS Mike Pence is eventually commissioned

>>12108547
I'm not a big fan of Trump or Pence, but whenever they talk about space stuff I get giddy like a little 5 year old.

>>12108547
Pence is based, he saved nasa

>>12108547
lifelong libtard here, pence's work on the NSC is the most based thing to come out of this admin

Gayniggers from Outer Space IRL when????

>>12108570
BLM space program.
>>12108116

Test

>>12108596
Passed, Starlink works, Elon

>>12108534
imagine getting paid millions to connect to wifi

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/former-nasa-administrator-says-sls-rocket-will-go-away/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social

Ahahahaha Bolden no backsies!

>>12108616
>The Falcon Heavy is not as capable as the SLS rocket, but its success has clearly demonstrated that private companies can build large, powerful rockets.

Ah yes, the Heavy that actually flew a few times is not as capable as the rocket that's been built for the last 15 years

Today in history:
>1935 – Gherman Titov, Russian general, pilot, and astronaut, was born (died 2000).
>1937 – Robert Crippen, American captain, pilot, and astronaut, was born.
>1997 – NASA's Mars Global Surveyor reaches Mars.

>>12108382
>>12108616
SLS is no longer real

>Joe Biden should choose a woman as the head of the space agency if he wins the White House, former NASA Administrator and astronaut Charles Bolden told us when we asked if he’d be interested in the job again.
oh nononononono

>>12108547
PENCE, I wish the Vice President in general had more camera time. Every time he talks he sounds like such a leader. And he has spearheaded Artemis and NASA's revival

>>12108638
>Gherman Titov
Second human in space.

>>12108638
Is this where they get Kerman from lol

>>12108640
Pence should've been president instead

>>12108497
NASA could put a check mark in the Idaho contractor box

>>12108641
>A month short of 26 years old at launch, he remains the youngest person to fly in space
Damn.

>>12108270
Virtue signaling. If people actually thought “black lives matter”, they’d talk about black-on-black criminal homicides, not police shooting a tiny amount of shithead criminals.

>>12108639
oh for fucks sake, they're really gonna make Lori Garver administrator

>>12108445
I could see things slipping by a synod. First landing around 2025, people 2027.

>>12108640
Maybe he'll run in '24? Not like the GOP is bursting at the seams with good candidates at the moment.

>new nasa admin forces spacex to cancel mars mission citing planetary protection

How would you feel

>>12108641
Second to orbit, fourth in space, per Wiki.

>>12107628
Jesus christ look up fluid build up in the body of astronauts you massive retard, what the fuck are you even doing here.
Humans in it's current form can stay a long time in 0g, but not forever.

>>12108671
Hire Russian novichok hitmen to poison Democratic party.

>>12108671
can they tho?

>>12108679
You tell me

>>12108685
>>12108679
no, and nasa admitted as such during the most recent planetary protection changes

>>12108685
no, lol

>>12108679
>can they enforce the law on another planet
no

>>12108677
ah yes, we're staying in 0g forever now. who's the retard? you are ;)

>>12108688
>>12108690
ok who can cancel spacex mars mission among government agencies?

>>12108697
FAA.

>>12108697
The FAA.

Japan's new launcher H3 has been delayed by at least a year https://twitter.com/JAXA_en/status/1304298099901231104

>>12108697
le faa

>>12108705
>Retire something
>Delay replacement
This is why you don't leave governments to be in charge of developing JACK FUCKING SHIT.

>>12108398
What famous person tweeted something stupid?

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2020/09/09/ula-finds-cause-delta-iv-heavy-launch-scrub-targeting-new-date-cape-canaveral/5764643002/

>A torn diaphragm in one of three pressure regulators at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station's Launch Complex 37 caused the computer-controlled scrub just three seconds before liftoff on Aug. 29, ULA CEO Tory Bruno said via Twitter on Wednesday.

>>12108705
>that promised price for the performance
>on a brand new hydromeme platform
Whew. Talk about too good to be true.

>>12108726
Fucking junk rocket and junk infrastructure. What the fuck are they getting paid billions for anyways? To let the infrastructure rot away?

>>12108671
>How would you feel
Probably pretty tired after throwing all those molotovs.

>>12108735
Burning shit down and causing trouble sounds fun as hell

>>12108703
>>12108701
>>12108709
What reasons they can use to do this?

>>12108745
Any fucking reason they feel like if they get pressure from the top. A rocket is classified as an intercontinental ballistic missile and if they don't feel like it, you're going nowhere.

>>12107734
why would the launch abort trigger on an unfueled rocket?

>>12108742
>>12108735
Spirit of riot? Maybe gonna loot some shop while you are at it?

>>12108742
I joined the BLM protest near my town for this reason. I’m actually very racist but I had an excuse to wreck the shit in the rich people neighborhood/malls. It was really fun. Fuck people richer than me. Fuck you bastards who have better shot that me.

Not Elon though he’s cool.

>>12108755
>"I burned down KSC and all I got was this lousy SLS t-shirt"

>>12108745
Boeing shills pulling strings, glowys saying that a SpaceX isn't trustworthy, any reason, really.

>>12108745
It's really the other way around, it's on SpaceX to demonstrate that they've covered their bases for approval and it's a fairly long involved process. But it's also something they have a lot of experience with and the FAA isn't likely to start grasping at straws to find special conditions to deny them.

>>12108758
Ah yes, the crab in a bucket mentality.

>>12108745
>TFW there are people citing climate change on Earth as the reason we shouldn't mine the moon and Mars
Do they not realize the moon and Mars basically don't have a climate, beyond bathing in solar radiation, and freezing to death?
Pollution is actually a good thing of Mars even

Did I miss this launch?

>>12108779
No, they scrubbed.

>>12108776
Don't forget that every time SpaceX launches a rocket, they punch a hole in the ozone!

>>12108786
Aaaahhhh

>>12108779
They replaced launch with mandatory Blacked screening.

>>12108787
Meteors punch holes in atmosphere - we should cancel Meteorology.

>>12108787
The average retard doesn't know that the Ozone layer has been healing for the last few years

>>12108776
Moving shit off world would be actually great way of reducing pollution here on Earth. Rather than dumping massive amounts of toxic chemicals in the biosphere during mining/refining, we could do all that shit in orbit or even on the Moon, and then just move the good shit to here.

>>12108796
Lmfao dumbass

>>12108787
Reminder, the Federation learned this after 300+ years of using warp technology as it was destroying the fabric of space itself.

>>12108791
Lel. I’m so glad SpaceX didn’t bend the knee (too bad)

>>12108779
>Astra
They decided to set up their launch facility in an area with regular cyclonic storms, and high wind, it will never ever launch

>>12108422
yeah i had very little time

>>12108779
Is Astra even a real company or did they just trick everyone and build a silver bullet with fake venting hoses that just gets scrubbed every week

>>12108811
u just answered your own question, dubs

>>12108805
Musk ecaped his blacked country with his parents after all.

>be Aatra, celebrate BLM
>Also be Astra, secretly make an easily portable IRBM for the government
Haha :)

>>12108669
Tucker Carlson 2024
>>12108671
SpaceX blackmails the world with asteroids, SPECTRE style

>>12108671
I always found it interesting the same people to scream "planetary protection" are the same people who call for open borders everywhere

>>12108849
I wonder why.

>>12108669
>Maybe he'll run in '24
Probably, no one becomes VP without at least the intention to run for president in the future

REUSABLE NUCLEAR SALT-WATER ROCKETS WITH FIRST STAGE BOOSTBACK CAPABILITY

>>12108445
2022 is still possible
literally all it takes is one in-space refueling test to send a Starship to Mars (even if it burns up in the atmosphere or gets flung back out into heliocentric)
saying that 2022 won't happen is saying that they'll fail to launch to orbit for the next two years, when they're almost ready to go

CREWED
EXPENDABLE
AIRBREATHING
NUCLEAR
SPACEPLANES

>>12108905
technically they don't need the heat shielding / bellyflop to be functional for that either, right? Since mars atmosphere is too thin for either to work / become a problem so they could fast track supply mission starships and then re-purpose them to dedicated mars surface to orbit ships later

>>12108911
>Since mars atmosphere is too thin for either to work
I think they had mars in mind when designing it. Since it is farther away, the extra fuel mass is more significant than for earth-earth or earth-moon. Rocket equation and all.

>>12108911
No, the heat shielding needs to work in order to do refueling tests, and they're going to use the bellyflop and shielding to do Mars EDL
they won't do propulsive braking at Mars until they're just above the surface

Musk's steel toilets
https://twitter.com/TJ_Cooney/status/1304457962384166912?s=20

>>12108924
Stuff like this makes me happy. Starship will succeed no matter what. SpaceX WILL find a solution for all the problems just like they did with Falcon 9’s Landings.

Hope bro’s. We have it. You just need FAITH. Do not DOUBT. We just need more TIME.

Depots

>>12108941
Who the fuck do you think you are, coming here and dropping words like that. Mods, get him.

>Boca Chica is shutting down
It's over SpaceX bros, the environmental fags won
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2020/09/09/dispute-erupts-over-spacexs-boca-chica-test-facility/

>>12108944
wrong

>>12108927
How heavy is that thing?

>>12108944
Not gonna do jack shit. What they're doing there has less impact than 12 launches a year.

Black pypo go to space before whitoids.

>>12107785
>Emily Lakdawalla
lmao, she's the Planetary Society lady who I remember wrote some weird ass virtue signal post when the new Cosmos series was announced about how she was pleased to see le black science man doing it because le white science man taking an interest in history and other cultures and filming them for all to see (as Sagan did in Cosmos) reminded her too much of colonialism or some shit like that and she never even watched his Cosmos series. So she's had some stick up her ass about le colonialism boogeyman for awhile now, this is nothing new.

What's funny is Carl Sagan helped found Planetary Society, and if you actually watch Cosmos there's not a hint of disdain or some air of smug superiority when Sagan speaks of ancient cultures or societies or when he is showcasing them to us as in that episode on Hindu Cosmology in India, there is only his humble enthusiasm, but these deranged people can't help but see something negative there, because they've been conditioned to associate even one humble mans natural scientific and anthropological curiosity with colonialism/racism, these associations exist only in their minds.

>there are people who think operation paperclip was a bad thing because muh Nazi's
lmao

>>12108955
>she's the Planetary Society lady who I remember wrote some weird ass virtue signal post when the new Cosmos series was announced about how she was pleased to see le black science man doing it because le white science man taking an interest in history and other cultures and filming them for all to see (as Sagan did in Cosmos) reminded her too much of colonialism or some shit like that and she never even watched his Cosmos series.
Source? Sounds too stupid to be true.

>>12108955
Sagan was jew.

>>12108965
Sagan was also a liberal retard at times but he was also super based when it came to science missions. So in my book he’s a good Jew. He was definitely anti establishment for his time

>>12108962
it was on the Planetary Society facebook way back when the new Neil deGrasse Tyson Cosmos was announced, I just remember thinking how hypocritical it was for her to make those assumptions about the original Cosmos despite never seeing it herself as she wrote in her post, but I never saved it or anything.

>>12108965
He was based

>>12108972
He wanted to go to Mars using Energia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCifZSpaNSo

>>12108972
Sagan spoke highly of patriotism and the founding fathers in his books, the liberals of today smash the statues of our founding fathers, he would be considered a conservative by today's standards.

>>12108941

>>12108973
Neil Degrasse Tyson makes me sad. I went to space camp (lol) when I was in third grade and he actually visited us. He was a cool guy and I got to ask him a question about Saturn or something. Years later people talk about how 99% of the time he’s a total asshole and he puts on a facade for children.

>>12108975
>go to mars on Energia
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>12108975
I’m still sad Russia canned energia it was super cool.

Imagine if the US had a vehicle that was a single large sustainer tank surrounded by varying numbers or liquid boosters. Not SLS, but more like a fatter Delta Iv core

>>12108950
This lil nigga is buried at the flagpole in Alamagordo.

>>12108986
with asparagus staging

>>12108988
F

>>12108965
I think he’s also the son of a syrian immigrant or something. Sagan was cool though he really was the only one who should ever be considered a “science communicator.” Bill nye and niel degrasse tyson are a hack fraud sellout and absolute terrible communicator, respectively

>>12108993
https://www.nasa.gov/solve/nasas-lunar-loo-challenge/

>>12109000
Russian

>>12108950
>>12108988

>>12108965
A non-practicing one who also smoked copious amounts of cannabis and gave zero fucks.

>>12109004
Ukraine.

>>12109038
>...who also smoked copious amounts of cannabis
He was Mr. X I believe. He wrote an entire essay about the benefits of cannabis under a pseudonym

O R A N G E

>>12109049
Yes he was. And he was not quite the "librul" people would make him out to be posthumously.
As Ann Druyan explained in regards to the conception of the term "baloney detection kit" from the book "The Demon Haunted World", "It didn’t really come from Carl. It actually came from a friend of mine named Arthur Felberbaum who died about forty years ago. He and Carl and I once sat down for dinner together. His politics were very left wing, so Carl and Arthur and I were trying to find common ground so that we could have a really good dinner together."

He would probably be called a "nazi" and a "fascist" in today's political climate.

>>12108944
i fucking swear if these enviromentalist faggots actually win...

>>12109050
BUTTCHEECKS

>>12109059
they will. source: im an environment

>>12109060
BAD

>>12109059
Why do you think Musky has been so specific about them planning offshore launches? This shit won't stick, the little testing they've been doing doesn't have more environmental impact than 12 FH launches a year or whatever.

>>12109073
They will be publishing papers about harmful effects of sea launches while oil rigs and fisheries kill oceans with no consequences.

>>12109056
He was the man. I have mentioned this before but I did by grad research under a guy who's advisor's advisor was Carl Sagan. My research funding came, in part, from SETI (which Sagan helped create)

SLS WILL HAPPEN AND SUCCEED IMMENSELY
STARSHIP WILL FAIL
BEZOS WILL BUY SPACEX AND SELL ALL ASSETS
YOUR DREAMS WILL BURN

>>12108944
ARE THEY SERIOUSLY TRYING TO ARGUE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF FUCKING STARSHIP TESTS IS HEAVIER THAN 12 FH/F9 LAUNCHES A YEAR

LMFAO

I've never seen such blatant retardation

>>12108941
now you've gone and done it

>>12109075
No doubt. He should give us Norwegians a call if he wants some expertise on big ass condeeps for the convenience of storing propellant as well as being able to support monstrous amounts of weight that the steel constructions just can't fucking deal with.
Shit could be the next big thing if you ask me.

>>12109078
Cosmos was part responsible for getting me hooked on this shit back in the 80s. My father's old Asimov books helped a lot too, bless his grumpy departed ass.

>>12108944
of course, we can't just let them vent nitrogen on pop tests, someone think of the atmosphere

>>12108398
>comparing spaceflight to colonialism
>trying to cancel Starship
I don't know why you think a tweet with a couple hundred likes has any effect on multiple spacecraft developments or plans.
I wish they cancel Artemis though it's just another half assed project to give SLS something to do. More of the same bullshit we've been seeing since the 80s.

lori garver, what is her endgame?

>>12109098
cancel all of nasa and leave only earth science.

>planetary protection
name a more useless agency

>>12109108
>Planetary Protection
>can't protect planets
What do they even do besides suck

>>12108525
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

MY PLUUUUUUUUUUMES

>>12109114
NASA will be the space equivalent of the EPA or FAA and make space boring, and hyper-regulated

>thread full of nazis and the occasional commie
>be me
>woke globalist neoliberal capitalist shill
>tfw I ALWAYS win, at the prize of being hated by everyone
What a feel.

God, I hope Musk and Bezos privatize the entirety of outer space and the government stays the hell out of this fledgling market.

>>12109102
Not really though during her years and Bolden was when they were pushing for the depots and more money for private companies. It was Shelby who torpedoed all of that and got his SLS.

>>12109127
NASA should push back now and announce a proof of concept orbital fuel depot and tell Shelby if he objects, they will cancel SLS

>>12109126
But what about sweet home Alabama and the thousands of boomer retirement funds on the line?

>>12109087
Rest in peace to your father. I was looking through some old disposable camera photos the other day when I was home and I've noticed how old my parents have become. I will cry when they pass

>>12109128
>NASA threatening Congress they'll cancel a project
>NASA deciding what they can or can't fun and do
NASA has no power, they don't decide what projects they work on, Boomers who don't give a fuck about space do

>>12109126
based and money-pilled

>>12109128
If nasa cancelled the SLS, they would just get defunded.

>>12109128
>SpaceX will work with Glenn and Marshall to advance technology needed to transfer propellant in orbit, an important step in the development of the company’s Starship space vehicle

>>12109143
good finally

how fucking sad is it that we don't have propellant transfer figured out yet, for fucks sake, once we do we can say goodbye to pork barrel rockets like the SLS they will never again be justifiable once we can refuel in space

>>12109130
This

>>12109143
>>12109146
I know I'm proposing a strawman here, but what kind of person subscribes to reddit's space launch system subreddit and SLS twitter account and shits on Starship. At least fags like blunderf00t most likely acknowledge how SLS is also dumb and are just cynical in general. How can you be so delusional to think Elon will "fail" when he's done so many tasks thus far that would have been considered impossible 20 years ago?

>>12109127
kek

>>12109153
What is it with you people and caring so much about what randos say in social media?

>>12109153
Starship is real. You've seen it down at Boca Chica. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at the launch site. I don't see any hardware for a SLS, except that they're going to take shitty contracted shuttle parts and put them together and that becomes the Space Launch System. It's not that easy in rocketry.

>There was an attempt at adding to this copypasta with some OC
The space industry and human survival, which you so nobly talk of, comes from the need for jobs, money and votes. Now take this space launch mandate. Here it is: economic, scientific... boring. But if it is spread across the country.. now look at all these little contractors! So busy now! Notice how each one is useful. A lovely little ballet ensues, so full of form and color. Now, think about all those people that created those rocket parts. Technicians, engineers, hundreds of people. You see, father, by causing a little destruction, I am in fact encouraging the continuation of life. In reality, Musk and I are in the same business.
t. Shelby Zorg.

So hypothetically, 30 years from now when ALL launch hardware is fully reusable and there are at least 6 or so SpaceX-like companies, would launch vehicle manufactures be opted to relinquish control of launch operations to "spacelines", which order and purchase individual vehicles for their own operations analogous to airlines?

Vehicle safety regulations would be tightened and some standardization would be introduced so different launch vehicles can use the same infrastructure.

NASA would be regulated to the role of "space traffic control", and instead of developing it's own launch vehicles for exploratory missions, it would charter them.

An orbit registry would be introduced to prevent collision hazards between stations and satellites, and space pollution would be taken very seriously with rules against abandoning infrastructure and debris in orbit.

>>12109167
>NASA would be regulated to the role of "space traffic control"
No, that is the FAA.
> and instead of developing it's own launch vehicles for exploratory missions, it would charter them, it would charter them.
Correct.

>>12109167
>"spacelines", which order and purchase individual vehicles for their own operations analogous to airlines?
Possible.

>Vehicle safety regulations would be tightened and some standardization would be introduced so different launch vehicles can use the same infrastructure.
Possible but I don't think it would be an industry standard, not an enforced one.

>NASA would be regulated to the role of "space traffic control", and instead of developing it's own launch vehicles for exploratory missions, it would charter them.
FAA or Norad. Nasa is a research agency and will probably remain so. But yes, they would hire private companies to launch.

>An orbit registry would be introduced to prevent collision hazards between stations and satellites
Already exists.

>and space pollution would be taken very seriously with rules against abandoning infrastructure and debris in orbit.
Hopefully.

space traffic control would fall under the purview of the Space Force I would imagine

Why didn't von Braun get to build his ferry rocket? Was it not feasible?

>>12109188
>ferry rocket
His what?

>>12109193
Is that supposed to be a terraformed moon?

>>12109197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AuRjJ0Gfs
Also known as the Collier's Space Ferry.

>>12109200
it's kerbin in game

>>12109205
Fucking KERBALpilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtYisD7RqWk
Nuclear pulse upper stage when?

>>12108405
That's the same shit with those who watch anime yet still criticize the fuck out of it not on technical/plot reasons but because Japanese cultural values and artistic expression is different and they want it to align more with their liberal progressive values so they'll still watch it while criticizing everything the fuck about it for every perceived cultural or moral slight.

It's a bewildering mindset

>>12109188
People stopped caring about space even as Apollo was going on

>>12109193
can someone add a
>BIG SWASTIKA

>https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/former-nasa-administrator-says-sls-rocket-will-go-away/
>Charlie Bolden says the quiet part out loud: SLS rocket will go away

>Bolden 2014: SLS is real. Falcon 9 Heavy is paper.
>Bolden 2020: Starship is real. SLS is going away.

>>12109217
I don't understand how the goobers behind this project thought any reasonably light structure would survive dozens of nuclear explosions, or how the crew wouldn't die of radiation before arriving anywhere.

>>12109228
What he's really saying is "Buckle the fuck up, if we win, we're defunding the fuck out of you and expecting private companies to pick up the slack for pennies".

>>12109235
No, he says thats going to happen with 2nd Trump administration too most likely.

>>12109228
>Top 10 Anime Redemption Arcs

>>12109237
Read between the lines, he's advising the Biden campaign.

>>12109240
AND 2nd Trump administration

>>12109241
And what, pray tell happened to the last huge space program the last time Biden held a position of significance?

>>12109244
Irrelevant?

Monday night Starship talk from Paul Wooster.

>>12109244
So young and naive. The politics that control space policy and projects have little to nothing to do with left right politics or the president/vp. Constellation, now re-branded as SLS was just keeping Shuttle contractors open under pressure from prominent senators.

>>12109258
>So young and naive.
lol.
It'll get shut down, then zombie rocket gets respun with a new name and a new design and we're no nearer a launch 10 years later down the line. Don't teach your father how to fuck.

>>12109233
People back in the 50s though there was no problem that couldn't be fixed by using more nuclear power.

>>12109252
The one good thing from rona is all these e-webinars being made.

>>12109264
It was truly a better time.

>>12109252
Lord British.

>>12109264
I want a stereotypical nuclear family bros

>>12109264
they weren't wrong

>>12109264
No they didn't. They feared the nuclear catastrophe.

>>12109238
kek

>>12109282
commies have nukes? make more US nukes.
murica

>still no space station sized nuclear powered SSTO crafts

Reality blows

>>12109329
soon we'll have space station sized chemical powered TSTO crafts, so it's not that bad

>Still no spaceship attached to railgun

Musk wants to make a SS for 5 million????
WTF that is insane. A 747 costs 350 million.
Imagine how cheap point to point travel on earth would become.
WTF

>>12109347
Fuck I didn't believe you about the 747 but I checked and it does cost that much. Why the hell is the 747 so expensive?

>>12109347
Have fun trying to make countries allow you to fly it over their cities and landing anywhere near anything.

>>12109351
>Why the hell is the 747 so expensive?

>>12109338
MAC rounds? In atmosphere?

>>12109351
Virtual monopoly

>>12109351
JOBS
I had the impression that it was like 100 million but decided to double check.
>>12109353
You can't prohibit things from orbiting over your country.
Once in orbit, it won't "fall" off the sky like an air plane.
Landing anywhere near anything is just like landing a plane anywhere near anything. With the difference that it can land on ships too.

>>12109351
What would you buy instead? Airbus (lmao)?

>>12109338
The MAC is a gauss cannon, not a railgun.

>>12109372
Pretty much the only difference between suborbital flight and ballistic missile launch is payload. Some military oldfags will definitely get their eye twitch at the mere thought of it.

>>12109347
In addition to being a monopoly (or duopoly or w/e iirc Airbus is doing pretty well lately), airplanes fly a LOT. You will always overpay up front if it means saving on down the road costs.

>>12109407
Same applies for satellites, just put a nuke on it and hit the breaks when it is time to attack. The only reason this is not done are international agreements.
Same applies for military aircraft hiding in the radar signature of civil aircraft or using the same routes.

>>12109338
>We forgot to make a model for the spaceships and release date is only one week away!
>Ehh, just use one of the gun models we didn't end up using.

>>12109347
It's a tin can. How much does the fuel cost?

>>12109140
Sometimes I eat a popsicle or drink a can of soda and just get overwhelmed by the beauty of global supply chains. People from a dozen countries worked on this thing. Extracted resources from the ground. Refined them. Drew up blueprints to turn them into product. Assembled them. Transported them to me. A person working in an office wasted months of their life to market it me. All of it made efficient by competition. Resources allocated with utmost care by invisible hands. It's wondrous, it's beautiful. God bless capitalism.

>>12109427
>It's a tin can.
With 30+ raptors.
>How much does the fuel cost?
Metalox shouldn't be much more expensive than the kerosene of an air liner.

EFFICIENT
SAFE
CLEAN
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
HIGH PERFORMANCE
HYDROLOX

>>12109126
>woke
Not very based but on the right direction.
>globalist neoliberal capitalist shill
based

>>12109433
>Metalox
that's for the moon when we're running cheap tugs on aluminum dust

>>12109435
>CLEAN
Made from distilling petrochemicals since that's the most convenient route to mass producing it, using shitloads of energy to distill. That energy most likely being coal or gas. Further vast amounts of energy being spent on keeping it stored in a stable state since hydrogen is a useless fucking cunt of a molecule that slips through just about everything and that energy is also coming from more coal or gas.

Yeah, sure is CLEAN. Biggest fucking asterisk in the world should be appended to that statement.

>>12109451
I really hope SpaceX goes through with making their methalox out of their own solar farms back on earth as well as mars. I don't give a shit about the amount of fuel used by the rocket industry but self-sustaining vertical integration gets me hard.

What would be the better outcome?
What >>12109121 said, a Gvt Agency overregulating the shit out of space, sucking every last bit of fascination out of it, selecting brainwashing generations of new pilots into bean counting safety cucks. Like modern Aviation

Or (a) private company/ies archiving monopoly/ oligopoly in that field basically dictating company protocols on traffic they effectively own, a FAA equivalent is a mere marionette that weighs company operation over safety. Freelancing is hard, but doable, as well as private space faring. Like in the Alien Universe.

(isolated everything else in the world)

>>12109463
Also posting vaguely space related Twingo content because who's gonna stop me???

>>12109469

>>12109472

>>12109433
>30+ Raptors
Huh?!

>>12109475

>>12109480

>>12109482

>>12108445
>>12108905
It's late 2022... ~26 months between synods, so September/October 2022? That's still two whole years left.
>>12108454
>spacex will go bankrupt
Starlink, faggot, even if they miss the synod they'll be yeeting 4x the starlinks per launch, with no lost second stages or fairings. And that's on top of >>12108508
>>12108734
For their results over rhetoric.
>>12108671
>Oops, our re-fueling test article that was still in orbit accidentally did an escape velocity burn that just happened to aim it at Mars.
>It's too bad that we had put such an assortment of junk as its mass simulator, it was full of food an sheeit.
>>12108779
Speaking of launches, MOMO 7 has been bumped again to Sep 29. (US time)
https://spacelaunchnow.me/launch/momo-flight-7/

Will 4ASS be putting forward a bid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NOmU06Vs6o

>>12109499
They're not covering development or anything. Unless you're ponying up the funds, I doubt it.

>>12109485
>Twingo
That was my first car!

>>12109472
I fucking loved that game. Too bad that the screens are just for show.

I miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

>Musk says that Starship will cost 2 million freedom bucks per launch
>Falcon 9 costs 90 million for a reused rocket
Ok, the rocketman is being overtly optimistic, but how much it will actually cost to launch starship?

>>12109554
about $3.50

>>12109554
>Falcon 9 costs 90 million for a reused rocket
Falcon 9 costs 28 million for a reused rocket without fairings, around 20 million with reused fairings.

>>12109555
>this response
>those trips
Um... yeah guys... I'm thinkin' BASED!

>>12109554
i hate when people blatantly lie to push an agenda on this thread