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1203710 No.1203710 [Reply] [Original]

You Mad Eurofags?

>> No.1203721

is this a ranking of Law or Politics degrees you can get in English speaking countries?

cause we all know it's fucking bullshit

>> No.1203739
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>>1203721
International rankings based on quality of education, probability of becoming successful, etc.

Also let the butthurt flow through you

>> No.1203747

>>1203710
Yes yes,.. America has amazing higher education.. now if the first 12 years didn't suck ass..

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>> No.1203764

>>1203739
wow this level of stupid can come only from an Americunt

>quality of education, probability of becoming successful, etc.
in other words, Obama went to Harvard hurr he studied law durr

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>>1203721

>> No.1203785

>>1203764
What does Obama have to do with anything?

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>>1203764
>problem? you're just making you're schools look worse if you're hating on the top schools in the world

>> No.1203796

>>1203747
meh cant have it all

>> No.1203797

>>1203785
that's what I'm saying too, but these faggots disagree

>> No.1203802

>>1203721
its based on all forms of education you butthurt eurofag

>> No.1203809

>>1203787
nobody involved in the composition of this list have ever been to any other schools

because of the gross arrogance and language barrier, you know

>hurr let's make ratings where we're on top

>> No.1203814

>stanford
>above Cal

>> No.1203816

>>1203802
yes I'm sure those journalists who made up this shit don't give a fuck about humanities

how fucking dumb are you, really?

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>>1203809
That butthurt doesn't look flattering on you eurofag

>> No.1203828

>implying people from outside the US agree with this list

>> No.1203855

Wow, Eurofags in some real denial in this thread..

>> No.1203856

>>1203828
>implying people outside the US have a valid opinion

>> No.1203860

>>1203809
>>1203828
These lists are complied by organizations across the world and they are all going to list USA schools ahead of others.

I saw one conducted by the UK that listed the University of Cambridge and Oxford at 5-6 both behind American schools

>> No.1203866

>>1203828
>Implying results don't come from actions

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>>1203856

>> No.1203878

>>1203828
>implying list wasn't made by the chinese
http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp

>> No.1203880

>>1203860
Awesome.

>> No.1203881

For fucks sake even the UN conducts lists like this. Get over it Eurofags

>> No.1203883

ITT: Eurofags realizing that their degrees are worthless.

>> No.1203886

What Eurofags fail to realize is that America is the most diverse of any country. Of course countries around the world are going to rank USA universities the highest because those univ would be the easiest to for a foreigner to get assimilated into.

Think anyone from Israel even considers the top univ's in Germany?

>> No.1203887

>>1203823
whose that nigger again, he makes me laugh when he does comedy standing things

>> No.1203888

>>1203860
>These lists are complied by organizations across the world

yeah, right

>> No.1203894

>>1203888
You are undoubtedly perturbed!

>> No.1203902

>>1203883
then why do our second rate graduates teach at your American universities Chinese kids?

try to answer this one LOLOLOL

>> No.1203903

Can someone provide the citation for these rankings?

Just about all University rankings I've seen are complete bunk, based on a statistically-meaningless combination of student surveys, professor publications, class sizes, etc.

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>>1203888
You're probably right. Obviously the Eurofags don't have the education or prosperity to make these lists.

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>>1203902
learn english rofl

>> No.1203927

>>1203922
damn I was just trying to post that myself

>> No.1203931

>>1203907
I lol'ed heartily.

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>>1203902
>>1203902
>Enjoy that hat eurofag

>> No.1203954

fuck yeah america

>> No.1203962

>>1203922
>>1203927
makes sense to me, as in" European professors, in American universities, are teaching Chinese students"

but go ahead and tell that to your university's foreign staff, dumb shits

also, the Chinese students LOL

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>>1203954

fuck me if these aren't 90% first or second generation Asian immigrants

dunno where their loyalties will be when shit hits the fan, anyway

oh wait, I know, they all supported China against Tibet

rofl

>> No.1204030

ITT: Butthurt Eurofags

>> No.1204218

Yeah troll the Eurofags when it's 5 AM there. Only fight battles you can win, Americunts.

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>>1204218

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>>1204514

>> No.1204632

>>1203739

>quality of education . . .

I know for a fact that is not true. My British B.Sc. degree is worth a US Master's.

There is even talk of removing the equivalency between US and European degrees at the Bachelor's level.

>> No.1204644

>>1203710
> implying that we give a shit.

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>>1204009
>>1204009
>>1204009
Protip: A picture with a bunch of asians that you labeled MIT doesn't make it MIT retard. Americans fucking stupid, just look at our universities.

MIT is 43% white 26% asian. Yes there are quite a few asians, what do you expect? America's a free country, whoever does the best in school should get into the best schools.

checkmate eurofag

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>>1204644

>> No.1204661

>>1203710
I'm okay with this OP.
USA have more money so they can make better education.

>> No.1204694

>>1204009
that looks like University of Washington actually.

>> No.1204695

>>1204661

USA has the most debt in the world.

Also, at least we don't have niggers trying to change the word 'black hole' to 'white hole' because it's racist. Europe 1, Amerifags 0.

>> No.1204703

>>1204695
> USA has the most debt in the world.
true

But... it doesn't stop them from spending liek hell.

>> No.1204706

>>1204695
Americans are still the richest population on the planet regardless of what our government is in debt for.
1-1 faggot
oh wait you're unvis are shit
checkmate

>> No.1204707

>>1204703

No. That's why they are one of the major causes of this recession.

Thanks a lot amerifags, my dad lost his job because of your warmongering.

>> No.1204712

>>1204707
lololololol
poor eurofag

>> No.1204718

>>1204707
*cue the violins*

>> No.1204736

>>1204632
>>1204632
>>1204632
cool story bro

it all depends on how many courses/how long you take

>> No.1204737

>>1204707
> implying that the US is not the primary force in our globalised economy.

They are big, we are not.
Deal with it.

>> No.1204743

>>1203710
OP
Where are the asian universities??

>> No.1204748

>>1204743
This is a list of the best and most prestigious unis internationally.

>> No.1204751

I thought the main difference was that statsians can't speak/write english?

>> No.1204755

>>1204632
Put your money where your mouth is and apply for a PhD program at a US institution, then, if you think your degree is so great.

Here, even if you complete everything the AP/IB programs had to offer, you only got to skip on average half a year (maybe a slightly more) worth of classes once you go to uni; most places don't offer spots in labs for undergrads PERIOD, besides basically hanging around observing/being a test tube janitor, making it extremely difficult to get any research done before getting a master's. This is because you're competing against grad students for spots in the labs and if they pick you over a grad, well you can pretty much assume that you got shoveled in as a big "fuck you" to some grad candidate who may have sounded a bit too arrogant in the interview. Even if you do get in 2 years and get your name in a paper, over here you still don't get a master's for that if you are still an undergrad... you'd just be an undergrad in an extremely good position for grad school, due to being able to pick up some awesome recommendations et cetera.

So anyway, what were you saying? A BS? In what? Have you completed 2 years of working/tutelage at a research lab yet? Guess what, if you did, that doesn't count here. Written a master's thesis or gotten your name in a peer-reviewed published paper yet? Yes? No? Sorry, that's not a Master's, it's an inflated BS and guess what, people do this kind of thing here all the time. With the kind of competition we're up against, do you really think that we're standing still? Why the fuck do you think American scientific research is still the de-facto standard every other nation strives for?

Yes, our high school education is an abomination like no other, but trust me, there are plenty of intelligent people here running the ship.

>> No.1204781

MIT?!
Not in the top.

>> No.1204782

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities#Criticism

Luls at the rankings, basically made up by two faggots.

>> No.1204790

>>1204782
Rofl 0/10 troll
everyone in the US knows ASU is a joke

>> No.1204804

>>1204790
uh, wat? wasn't even talking about the rankings, just that the two idiots that do the 'research' don't even use a consistent formula, subjective rankings are subjective.

>> No.1204816

>>1204804
obviously, you look at 1,000,000 different legit ranking organizations they are all going to rate USA unis higher

>> No.1204825

>>1204804
To be fair, the rankings from that British organization (THE-QS) are even more subjective and biased.

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>myfase when Asians choose to study at superior US universities instead eurotrash summer camp.
>myfase when Asians take all the places and prevent Eurofags from breaking their cycle of poverty.

>> No.1204829

Someone posted the one conducted by the UN and people were still raging that America's unis are higher

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>> No.1204892

So you have more universities? Big deal, your country is bigger.

>> No.1204905

Sure is butthurt Eurofags in here.

Guess what? American universities are superior in all subjects-especially science.

Suck it, pathetic descendants.

>> No.1204909

>>1204872
>UCSD
>Ui-chan
imokaywiththis.jpg

>> No.1204915

>>1204892
>better universities

>> No.1204922

>>1204905
Are you really going to do this? Really?

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>>1204922
The student has become the master fag

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>>1204872
Ah fuck, I go to UCSC. I'd be like.. Ritsu then? Or not even Ritsu, but some almost-totally-irrelevant character?

I guess Ritsu would be Davis/Irvine by looking at top ranks actually. But SC far better matches her persona... This really is the kind of place she'd totally go to for school.

>> No.1204957

>>1204939
lolololol

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>>1204939

>> No.1204972 [DELETED] 

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>>1204968
so SC - AWESOME
UCD - SLUT
Merced - RETARD
UCSB - NIGGERS

Is that right?

>> No.1204985

>>1204939
UCSC is the failest UC ive ever visited, it a bunch of fuckups who are there, not because they want to, but because they feel like they should be there to smoke weed an pretend to be hippies.

BTW Sam Fishman is a fagot, if you see him, tell him i said that

>> No.1204988

>>1204982
UCSB = Rich white women

>> No.1204989

>>1204982
no

>> No.1204991

take a sample of europeans and a sample of americunts, and ask them to point to said universities on a map of the world.
then stop smiling.
then fuck off.

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>>1204991
Nothing like a butthurt Eurofag

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>>1204982
Pretty much, I guess. Merced = retard is the one that I don't think anyone would argue with, if anything.

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>>1204991
Nigga how mad are you?

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>>1204985
this, that school is like fucking community college

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>>1204991

>> No.1206700

Take a look at the size and population of America.
Now at England.
Why would England have as many good universities/colleges as america? There's be no room for them.
Now, how many crap colleges are in America? Shall we count?...

>> No.1206729

>>1203710
>wikipedia
>my face

>> No.1206746

Americans being delusional ITT

>> No.1206758

>>1203710
and the US still has a big creationist problem now doesn't it? You guys are seriously doing something wrong over there.

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I just leave this here.

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Enough said

/thread

Pic 100% related

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>>1206780
Well fuck you,pic related

>> No.1206801

sure dude i'll be mad just because we are an all round much more passive race i'll be mad just because you tell me too :)

>> No.1206813

>>1206796
Russel Crowe is Australian, mick.

>> No.1206820

>>1206813
No he is not, he's in Gladiator and shit

>> No.1206821

>>1206813
No wait, I take that back, he's a New Zealander.

>> No.1206827

>>1206820
And he played a Roman soldier. So that makes him even more european by troll logic.

>> No.1206837

>>1206827
Not a troll, he's american, thoose guys suck dicks and all are from the deep south from the beginning, fucking swamprats that fornicates their banjos and whatnot

>> No.1206843

No. We are fortunate enough to spend only <10,000$ for shitty undergrad so that we can afford post-grad easily; guess where?

Oh and our undergrad often include a masters.

>> No.1206853

>>1204985
sadly this is true, only the grad students and a handful of out-of-state valedictorians who came there because of the marine mammals group really take anything seriously, the rest are just mediocre students that got in because they're California residents.

>> No.1206882

>>1206853
Gtfo of my America bitch

>> No.1206902

creationism

/thread

>> No.1206908

>>1206882
i actually go there =)

>> No.1206933

So few universities, so many idiots.

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>my face when Eurofags start breaking out the demonstrably misleading charts to shield their asspain because even European studies show that America has way better universities.

Haha, the successful Europeans agree that America has better universities, and the unsuccessful Europeans sit on 4chan and bitch about how much they hate a massive nation with 300+ million people that vary wildly from region to region.

>> No.1206972

>>1206958

You forget, Europeans know much less about geography and well-known facts than they think they do. They believe that every nation around the world is just as tiny and boring as each of their individual countries. They can't understand the concept of 300+ million people spread across the majority of an entire continent belonging to one country.

Cut them some slack.

>> No.1207008

Skimming down this thread, it amuses me that nobody's mentioned that UK students only have to be good to actually get into Cambridge/Oxford. You only have to pay £3,500 a year or so, all of which the government gives you anyway. Whereas Harvard is, what, $33,000 a year?

Don't mind me, I'm still going to a world class university and not being in fucking loads of debt.

>> No.1207017

My school is #36. :(

>> No.1207165

>>1207008

£3,290 is the cap for 2010/11. Feels good man.

>> No.1207247

Ask every thick religiousfag in /sci/ where they are from.

ALL WILL BE FROM THE US.

>> No.1207260

>>1207247
You know those people are trolls, yes?

Do they not have deception where you are from?

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Not racist, but I lold

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>> No.1207318

>>1207260
It wasn't a serious suggestion.. merely to make a point that you've got some real fucktards

>> No.1207336

CSPUPomona ftw

I'm getting a degree

>> No.1207355

What the hell is this?

>> No.1207455

Needs more Boston Tea Party.

>> No.1207464

>>1207268
japusan

>> No.1207481

also, most of those schools mostly produce lawyers and such. So yea. Eurofags with the supreme SCIENCE will be laughing at the lawyer nation.

>> No.1207526

>>1206843

This can't be more true.

Most European countries subside university costs to much under 10000$. Moreover, given the difference in HS between Europe and US, most EU universities have more advanced undergrad courses and those planning to go post grad can apply for a 5 year undergrad+masters. This means less time and money invested which instead are used for more advanced studies in US.

>> No.1207571

I lol'd all the way through this thread

>> No.1207645

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4073753.stm
Finland just came to say hi, the schooling is also free by the way.

>> No.1207651

>>1204755
>most places don't offer spots in labs for undergrads PERIOD
That's not really true. Most American universities (especially research institutions) actually encourage undergrads to join labs to get experience and have undergraduate research organizations to foster this because they want to get people interested in lab work.
A professor accepting an undergrad into a lab would doubtfully have any effect on him taking a grad student

>> No.1207673

Interesting statistics, was actually considering going to university in the US (britfag here) but it seemed like shit loads of effort to do so, maybe it is worth it.

>> No.1207682

>>1206843
>so that we can afford post-grad easily

I hate to break it to you, but here in the States, many PhD programs (especially in the sciences) are paid for by the school you're accepted to and they also give you a stipend

youmad?

>> No.1207693

So you compare schools that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per student to schools that are free? Well played America, top education for the rich who are already well connected and likely to be successful.

>> No.1207701

>>1207693
>implying the schools don't give student aide to almost everyone and that it isn't easy as hell to get unsubsidized loans from the gov't for school.

>> No.1207707

>>1207682

That's even better than no?

>> No.1207716

>>1207701

As far as I know you're trying to troll.

>> No.1207729

>>1207716
>implying my college didn't give me academic scholarship, financial aide and I don't have a federal unsub loan

who is trying to troll?

>> No.1207748

>>1207729

I can recall a troll in a similar thread a few months ago. As soon as he mentioned that it's easy as fuck /sci/; half of /sci/ got confused and the other half called him a troll.

I can't verify but I'm dubious how "easy" it is to receive funding.

>> No.1207760

Europe and America be friends.

>> No.1207765

European HS diploma=US bachelor's degree. US HS diploma=EU middle school diploma.

>> No.1207769

and I cant even get into those ones

>> No.1207770

>>1207765

Somewhat exaggerated but true.

>> No.1207782

>>1207765
>implying this is in any way true.

I'd love to test a European high school graduate on information I learned while obtaining my BSc in molecular genetics and see how they fare.
I'm sure they know all about advanced cell biology, developmental and population genetics, and biochemistry. Right?

>> No.1207794

So?

That's irrelevant.

If you have what it takes you can do whatever you want.

Top students aren't restricted by such barriers as fundings and such.

/sci/ is just butthurt they can only dream to step foot in any of those universities whether European or Northern American.

>> No.1207795

US education standards just happen to be lower than EU. Their college admission procedure is retarded anyway, mostly due to their fucked up education economy.

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> Studying at top university in the USA
> having large debt

GREAT, AMERICA

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>>1207782

>biology
>science

>> No.1207814

>>1207804
> 60.000 $ for studying
> 60.000 $

is that true???

>> No.1207816

>>1207804
Anyone spending that much on a wedding is a fucking retard.

>> No.1207822

>>1207814

Yes.

>>1207816

Bitches cost.

>> No.1207824

>>1207765
Sad but true

>> No.1207833

>>1207765
Yes America's high school program sucks except for AP/IB but other than that you're completely off fag.

>> No.1207851

>>1207804
LOL @ 31K intro salary. thats what you get for not doing engineering or at least a science degree.

>> No.1207853

>>1207807
lol you're just butthurt that you've done nothing with your life.

The herr derr biology is not a real science thing is stupid. In fact many the largest growing fields in science are those of the biological sciences and that's where research money is being focused.

But you can go on ahead and believe what you want while I go get my PhD starting this summer and work in stem cell biology.

>> No.1207856

>>1207770
>>1207765
>>1207824
can't samefag it much harder than that

>> No.1207858

>>1207853
U.S. Ph D = European Master
European Ph D = ???

>> No.1207861

No doubt that both US and EU have top schools, but I'm missing the funding that school in the US get. But again, I'm happy that my annual uni costs are only €1000.
Sorry US, but I really don't like debt.

>> No.1207863

The main strengths of the US, are the ones that its average citizens won't be able to experience.

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>>1207765
>>1207858
butthurt alert

>> No.1207871

>>1207858
Most Europeans (that are able) come do their PhD in the US. What are you talking about?

Once you get past high school American Universities far outpace European and Asian ones

>> No.1207875

>>1207853
Stem cells, the only more awesome than a beer.

>> No.1207878

>>1207861
You must not like good education either...

>> No.1207881

>>1207861
If you go to one of these schools odds are you're going to have scholarships... Even if you don't you have to pay for the best things in life.

debt is worth 100k+ starting

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>my face when the majority of your citizens, comprising of imbeciles will never attend your "superior" universities, instead, they are filled with foreign students who are diligent, hard working and far more intelligent.

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>>1207885
That's some Grade A butthurt

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>>1207885
>implying the top universities in the world are going to let inferiorly educated Eurofags into their doors

>> No.1207906

>>1207858
Eurofag here, stop bitching about that. It is a different system, get over it.

>> No.1207914

>>1207804
>my face when my parents paid for my first car, help pay my insurance, planned well when I was a child with savings bonds so I only had to take minimal loans along with my scholarships so I have close to 0 debt coming out of undergrad, and are helping me buy a condo for graduate school (which pays my tuition and gives me a healthy stipend) so I'm not wasting money on rent and building credit, and still has me on their amazing health insurance so that I can have a better life and in turn provide a better life for my children

:D:D:D:D

lol at you poorfags

>> No.1207917
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Don't feel to bad Europe, if someone is going to be superior then someone has to be inferior, that's were you come in. Don't think of it as failing, thinking of it as being a stepping stone to America's greatness.

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>>1207914
>My face when my parents have bought my brother 4 cars in his life and me 2. I'll never have to worry about a single bill while im in college, considering I'm attending one of these God tier universities, plus I'm going to live in my parents vacation home during my first job after my MBA.

>> No.1207944

>>1207878
In fact I do fellow /sci/duck, I'm actually thinking of doing a Ph D in the US. I'm not familiar with your system.
>>1207881
Ok, scholarship is a big plus for you guys. In my country you don't have much chance of getting a scholarship (unless your parents are poor or you live alone).

>> No.1207957

>>1207944
In America they literally hand out money for people going to a good school. Seriously everyone is just handing it out. Even if you're rich

>> No.1207961

In what way is american college science education superior to european equivalent? I really find this hard to believe.

>> No.1207973

>>1207943
Feels good doesn't it? My parents paid for my apartment for 3 years while I was in undergrad and I only got a job in a lab to make my resume for grad school look better.

My parents just tried to buy me a new car, but I told them that I don't want one and that they should just buy my sister a new one cause she'll use it more and I'll take her old one.

>> No.1207984

>>1207961
Just fucking look what you said
>In what way is an american college science degree superior to a European one
>American college science degree superior to a European one
>American college superior to European
>America superior to Europe

>> No.1207996

>>1207961
better instructors and equipment. More colleges are research institutions.

Go look up the American Association of Universities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities

These schools have better research equipment than you can possibly imagine

>> No.1207997

>>1207957
Wow, to foreign students as well?
But, there must be some conditions for you to get a scholarship?
>>1207961
Not talking about college.

>> No.1208008

If American educational institutions are THAT superior than I'll feel better doing my studies in Europe. I like a good challenge.

>> No.1208016

>>1208008
If you want to be successful you should just come to the states

>> No.1208018

>>1207996
Fundraising is a piece of shit here.

>> No.1208034

>>1208018
here being where? In America? Cause I don't think that's the case. We spend quite a bit on science every year.

It's easy to get funding if you can link something you're studying to cancer in any way at all

>> No.1208045

>>1208034
Nono, was talking about EU. It's a real pity, there is a lot of talent wasted in here.

>> No.1208047

>>1207997
Well it depends on what kind of foreign student. If you're a sand nigger except absolutely no money whatsoever. If you're a god tier European like a Scandinavian, they'll hand you money.

As long as you have good grades (marks) and are willing to work, the money will come.

People hand out money anywhere from a few hundred dollars to a few hundred thousand dollars

>> No.1208049

>>1208047
expect*

>> No.1208084

>>1207973
There's absolutely no feeling like getting out of a god tier university with a degree in Econ/business and a MBA and not owing a single cent. Even having some money in the bank.

I'm going to be making 150kyr starting at a new business when I get out while living in my parents vacation house.

I'll be able to take some big risks in the stock market to hopefully strike it as big as my parents.

If I end up failing at everything I ever try I can just go back and work for my dad.

I'm going to make the same deal with my kids that my dad made with me; you get good grades in school and go to a top university and work you're ass off, I'll always have your back... If not.. fuck off

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>>1208047
Not a god tier European, just look at the pic.
Define good grades? Like 15/20 average?
Ow and my field will be genetics related (plant modification, stem cells, I don't know yet)

>> No.1208122

>>1208084
>you're ass off
What God Tier school did you go to?

>> No.1208123

>>1208087
Are you an adult or a teenager? How old are you? And good grades I mean A's and maybe a few B's. What American universities want to see is you becoming better if anything.

>> No.1208139

>>1208122
Simple typo. MIT

>> No.1208171

>>1208123
Adult ofcourse. I'm in my second year of my bachelor in bio-engineering sciences. Now it's mostly basics, next year, it'll be more specific with optional courses and stuff.
What's the equivalent of an A? (google failed me)

>> No.1208173

Wow. My parents were working class. Looking at them, I learned my lessons early on and took my education seriously. I'm attending an engineering university now, acing everything thrown my way while working and paying for living at the same time. When I graduate and get my job, it's going to feel so much more satisfying than the rich kid floating through their life on their parents' money. It'll be a lesson for my kids too. Realizing your dreams on your own merits is probably the most rewarding thing there is.

>> No.1208176

>>1208139
>MIT
>Studied Econ
What a waste.

>> No.1208200

>>1208084

what business? how do you know it will make that much money?

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>>1208176
>Double Majored in Econ/business
>Have MBA
making 150kyr starting
>waste

>> No.1208204

>>1208171
Nevermind, found it the A's & B's.
And shit. My point have to get better.

>> No.1208216

>>1208171
Bio-engineering definitely sounds like a major that you would want to go to the US for. Unless you already have a job locked up for when you get out of school.

B = 0.8 - 0.89
A=0.9 - 1

>> No.1208223

>>1208203
>Defending his shitty subject on /sci/
Good luck with that.

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>>1208223
I'll be making more money than you doing what I love
haters gonna hate

>> No.1208244

The reason why America has the best schools is because people come from all over the world to teach here. We pay better and they can say what they want while in other countries they would be confined to a cell or executed.

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European science education is better. Europe is the land of science, americunts can go back to thumping their bibles.

>> No.1208276

>>1208216
No job lockup up and no family member is in the business. Just my degree and I'm ready to go.

>> No.1208277

>ITT: faggots fighting for universities they will never attend to.

>> No.1208289

personally im happy with being able to go to number 4 (come on Britain keeping us Eurofags just about in there) and btw OP can i have some results for 2009 or arent they out yet?

>> No.1208294

>>1208267
0/10
keep trying europe

>> No.1208297

>>1203710
>>1208200
It's a technology business that has recently started up by a multi-millionaire that while I was at MIT. The company is currently making mad stacks of cash doing everything from coding-designing computers.

It's actually a really small company with like 50 employees, but you have to be a pro and productive to work there in order to get the good salary.

The owner is slowly pulling himself out of all his businesses so he can just sit back and enjoy his money.

>> No.1208303

>>1208267
I like that you ignore the discrepancy of US Nobel Prizes between Europe and the US.

just some numbers for you the US population is ~5% of the Earth's population and yet they garner nearly 50% of the prizes in physics every year

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>>1203710

>> No.1208317

you know what i'll give americans this one. every nation has their time. us eurofags took over the world (and we made you btw america). give amerifags a chance to play ball. they'll be overtaken by china soon enough

>> No.1208322

>>1208303
*looks up the list of nobel price winners in my country*
*finds out that I can count them on my hands*
*feels, terribly, terribly ashamed.

>> No.1208323

>>1208317
>and we made you btw america

we made ourselves faggot

>> No.1208341

>>1208323
sorry i feel that came out wrong. we gave birth to you, planted some colonists on north america, france used you to get one over on us brits and from then on yes you made the most powerful nation in the world. just thought we should get a mention

>> No.1208343

>>1208317
True, I hear those chinese debts are getting bigger?
USA, USA!

>> No.1208352

>>1208303
thats because only western people have a real shot at winning and we all know the western country with the most natural resources as well as the best schools for high education.

>> No.1208365

>>1208352
not my fault that Africa is full of aids and fail

>> No.1208375

>>1208352
I'll bet there are a bunch of neutralised citizens in it as well.

>> No.1208385

Uk is better than europe in every single way.

>> No.1208394

2009 rank School Name Country
Source: QS Quacquarelli Symonds (www.topuniversities.com)
Copyright © 2004-2009 QS Intelligence Unit.
Click here for copyright and limitations on use.
1 HARVARD University United States
2 University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom
3 YALE University United States
4 UCL (University College London) United Kingdom
5= IMPERIAL College London United Kingdom
5= University of OXFORD United Kingdom

>> No.1208400

>>1208352
Well maybe everyone else should stop being retared and submit to the one united world government

>> No.1208403

>>1208365
But you do plunder it? Don't you?

>> No.1208409

>>1208403
I actually think that was Europe

>> No.1208433

>>1208394
i agree more with this. i think everyone agrees on harvard being the best, but surely after its gonna be cambridge and ucl and oxford. Did i mention us brits are awesome :D

>> No.1208451

>>1208433
>>1208433
There's been over 5 lists posted ITT all of them 100x more accurate than that

>> No.1208474

>>1208394
>MIT ranked 9th
Troll harder
The list conducted by the UN listed MIT as 6th and I thought that was slow

>> No.1208487

>>1208451
can i ask who works out these lists? how? what do they measure? who is the most authoritative source?

>> No.1208492

Who cares? A degree from any of those schools is still pretty much worthless in this job market. We're headed straight for a double dip recession, jobs are getting sent to China and India, and no one over here is hiring.

You can't even join the Army shit is so backed up!

Face it, America is ruined. The fucking stimulus bill has killed any chance of a recovery. The best you can hope to do now is learn to barter with neighbors, pick up a skill, and purchase emergency rations and guns.

I know /sci/ agrees with me when I say it's time to bunker down and prepare for the end. It'll be here soon.

>> No.1208494

>>1203710

>Biased template
>Thinks his country is awesome
>He isn't part of any of these universities
>Is butthurt because of the above, so he posts this template to compensate for his lack of intelligence
>Fuck you etc

>> No.1208503

>>1208487
I believe it is based on articles people linked to the uni write and also how much they are quoted.

>> No.1208509

>>1208487
The ones conducted by individual websites are shit.
the ones conducted by huge companies or actual countries USA, UK, France etc are more likely to be accurate.

I think your best bet is the list from the UN or large corps.

>> No.1208511

>>1208492
Oh God.../new/ is leaking.

>> No.1208517

>>1208492
Sorry I'm not a poorfag

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>>1208494
>Currently attending MIT
get on my level faggot

>> No.1208558

>>1208492

giggle

No it's not... you are just reacting to a small community of panicky idiots.

These people were the same who prepared for the Russian invasion, for Clintons NWO takeover and now Obama's Muslim terror invasion.

>> No.1208596

Is there any criteria available for these so called rankings? What conditions do the top universities satisfy? Most succesful graduates? That's hardly an indicator of the quality of education.

>> No.1208616

>>1208492
enjoy that tinfoil hat bro

>> No.1208631

>>1208524
no your not :)

>> No.1208651

>>1207997
Yeah, all the top US universities offer full need-based financial aid.

Also:
Money I'd have to spend per year in a top US school: ~3000$
Money I'll have to spend per year in a UK school: ~11000$
:(

>> No.1208671

>my face when my university education is completely free in my country, the glorious Finland

Those top universities aren't doing you much good, America.

>> No.1208673

>>1208400
I, for one, welcome a fucking one world govt so we can fucking finally act as a whole instead of retard countries with 0 army having a say

>> No.1208684

Sorry, I stepped away for a bit. Anyways, I'm really disappointed by a board of scientists.
>>1208558
It's not a conspiracy. It's real. This country has no economy anymore. Our debt is out of control and our manufacturing base is gone.

We have nothing to produce and sell, and we're going to fall apart because of it. Double dip recession is inevitable. College grads are going to get the worst of it.
>>1208616
Enjoy not getting a job because an engineer in China will do waht you do at half the pay AND do it better, bro.

Fucking morons.

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>my face when I enjoy free university education and student allowance

>> No.1208741

Newton - English
Einsten - German
Feynman - English
Ohm - Danish
Hawking - English
Maxwell - Scottish
Boltzmann - Austrian
America is artistically and scientifically dead

>> No.1208822

>>1208684
No replies, huh? It's the truth.

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4/10 for getting 200+ replies.
Both eurofags and americunts show their wonderfull talent of failing and getting butthurt in these threads.

Atleast its a entertaining read.

>> No.1208939

>>1208741

>Feynman-English

Wow, you eurofags really are stupid mother fuckers aren't you?

>> No.1208961

You have disappointed me /sci/

instead of acknowledging that borders don't matter, and that science is science, you have managed to be nationalist about objectivity. :(

>> No.1208997

Who said you needed a college degree to do science? didn't stop most of the greatest scientists before us from making discoveries.

>> No.1209090

>>1208997
Well, that was kinda back in the day when science was relatively primitive, and you didn't need to learn centuries' worth of discoveries and have access to state of the art equipment in order to be able to discover something new.