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Why doesn't Africa have a space program?

>> No.12066681 [DELETED] 

>>12066675
Because niggers are too retarded to unify into United States of Africa.

>> No.12066685
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>>12066675
Welfare

>> No.12066694

>>12066675
They are poor as fuck and have no base aerospace shit so it’d be a complete up hill battle.

>> No.12066700

>>12066675

It was considered a big deal when an Ethiopian built a Wright brothers-like plans in 2015. Let that sink in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ksWReUoTiuI

>> No.12066702

race is only skin deep
but space requires an IQ outside the bellcurve distribution of the african race, so really space is just too racist for Africa

>> No.12066709

>>12066694
>They are poor as fuck and have no base aerospace shit so it’d be a complete up hill battle.
So is India and so was China

>> No.12066715

>>12066675
I think there are more pressing issues in Africa than going to space

>> No.12066718

>>12066709
Africa is still poor as fuck dumb fuck. China and India only had a space program after they had a lot of money.

>> No.12066724
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>> No.12066729

>>12066718
Maybe it has something to do with China and India not constantly infighting despite hating eachother anyway?

>> No.12066732

>>12066718
India was poor as fuck but then somehow got a space program.
Africa is poor as fuck and remains poor as fuck despite having trillions thrown at it.

>> No.12066736

>>12066675
They have bigger problems (infrastructure, development, etc.) Plus, the air forces of most African countries buy American, Russian, or Chinese planes. Without a country's government as a customer/subsidizer, it's hard for a aerospace company to succeed.

>> No.12066747

>>12066732
India is not poor as fuck. You are confusing the large amount of people in poverty there with how much money the government has

>> No.12066749

>>12066724
That map is fake and gay, derived from Richard Lynn's data. Some of those countries don't even have IQ data, so Lynn just made it up. Some countries data comes from the 1970s and 1980s. Some countries only have one study. All the data sets come from different conditions, i.e. some from schools, some random population, etc.
Basically, the map is complete junk and useless as a scientific tool.

>> No.12066751

imagine how awesome the african continent would be if it didnt have africans in it.

all those resources, all that land, such a beautiful place with so much potential. what a waste.
We are would rather go to mars and colonise that, rather than solving the one problem with africa, which if civilised would almost double the amount of livable land available to mankind

>> No.12066753

>>12066685
Incredibly xenophobic, as expected of the Japanese. What are Africans supposed to do, not reproduce after receiving foreign aid and dying out a generation later?

>> No.12066768

>>12066753
instead of having 7 children per woman, they should have 1 or 2, and educate them. and then for that unexploded population build all the necessary national infrastructure that amount of people need.
instead they have 7 kids each, scramble all day to get them dirty water and scavange aid food, whilst living in mud huts.

>> No.12066777

>>12066768
Many African countries already had an infrastructure left from colonial rule. The problem is as soon as white people left, the Africans stopped taking care of it. They looted and destroyed their own railways for example.

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>>12066724
Fake map, China doesn't have such a high IQ.

>> No.12066788

>>12066718
>after they had a lot of money
>implying the money magically appeared out of nowhere

>> No.12066796

>>12066675

I heard maybe a week ago about a viable deselination solution that could maybe be used in Africa.

...although I have no idea what "Africa" is like.

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>>12066675
some african countries do have space programs, but mostly just small satellites for monitoring crops

>> No.12066885

>>12066820
We only spent 70 billion on space in 2018? Seems like it's not enough.

>> No.12066931

>>12066729
They have a TON of infighting anon. Read the history of India and China to see it all in action. Even then all the worlds space programs derive a lot of their work from NASA. Also both nations are way larger then and African state.

>>12066732
>Africa is poor as fuck and remains poor as fuck despite having trillions thrown at it.
More money comes out of African then into it and that aid money is actually very minuscule compared to the amount other countries in the world get out of it.

>> No.12066947

>>12066931
>More money comes out of African then into it
Not by Africans since they're too dumb to use their own resources and the Europeans and the Chinese to do it for them.

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>>12066777
>Many African countries already had an infrastructure left from colonial rule
Very limited because they only served to extract resources and to transport them to ports. Many infrastructure explicitly limited or forbade Africans using them.

>The problem is as soon as white people left, the Africans stopped taking care of it.
Because the infrastructure is extremely hard to maintain when your tax revenue is limited on top of that many infrastructure wasn't built for the needs and demand of nations so the their usage either

-could not handle higher usage rates
-ran in routes that fell out of relevancy.

Many infrastructure was already getting old by the time of independence so I don't think it would have been a good idea to use trains for the 1920's in say 2010.

>They looted and destroyed their own railways for example.
False as fuck. Many old rail lines are still used or were not destroyed. Please don't get your info from "Empire of Dust".

>> No.12066966

>>12066961
>Very limited because they only served to extract resources and to transport them to ports.
Wrong. Watch Empire of Dust.

>> No.12066968

>>12066961
>Please don't get your info from "Empire of Dust".
>please don't look at that nasty racist stuff that proves me wrong!

>> No.12066969

>>12066947
More money comes out of Africa then into it due to how tax abuse and dodging, loss of income from protectionism in developed states and how the market functions. The Aid going into "Africa" isn't even much in general.

>Not by Africans since they're too dumb to use their own resources
Most nations in the world get private companies to do the resource extraction.

>> No.12066971

>>12066675
They do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Space_Science_and_Technology_Centre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Research_and_Development_Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_National_Space_Agency

>> No.12066972

>>12066931
But they still manage to have a real economy no matter how shitty it is.

Infighting in continent vs infighting in country is a lot different, and the former is way worse for economy, because they can stop cooperating completely for literally no good reason other than "fuck that country", unlike in China or India...

This is getting political, but seriously, until they become USA (United States of Africa), they will always be the brainlets of our planet.

>> No.12066979

>>12066961
>don't think it would have been a good idea to use trains for the 1920's in say 2010.

stop being racist anon, this is exactly what central african nations are doing.

>> No.12066989

>>12066966
>>12066968
Because Empire of Dust isn't meant to be historical film. it's basically a shitty Slice of life film about a shitty Chinese manger who complains about working in Congo despite China being almost as bad to work in fore foreigners. It covers none of Congo's history in depth. Lao hires his laborers from a random lineup in front of his company lodgings and he expects them to be high quality? fucks sake he could have done recruitment in a bunch of other cities in then nation yet he does the equivalent of picking up a street walker for sex and being utterly surprised she doesn't have any teeth.

>> No.12066993

>>12066971
OP btfo

>> No.12067008

>>12066979
and that infrastructure is crumbling and extremely dated since it operates at really weak capacity and cannot handle modern needs.

>>12066972
>But they still manage to have a real economy no matter how shitty it is.
India;'s economy is way less powerful then it could be and China's economy is basically strangled by the CCP.

>Infighting in continent vs infighting in country is a lot different, and the former is way worse for economy, because they can stop cooperating completely for literally no good reason other than "fuck that country",
Anon there really isn't a lot of conflicts in Africa in most parts. Africa isn't monolith

>This is getting political, but seriously, until they become USA (United States of Africa), they will always be the brainlets of our planet.
Nigger do you not know what the AU is? there's no need to combine into one super country when they can use the AU as an organization to help coordinate efforts which it has done for decades.

>> No.12067010

>>12066971
Sweet. Maybe they can be the first ones to take ebola into space.

>> No.12067019

>>12067008
economically most part of of the world including most African stats are economically growing.

>>12066972
>they will always be the brainlets of our planet.
Does that really matter? More and more western states are leeching educated people form Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe so it's not like they are extremely brainlet since we hare having more of Academia being filled up with people from said 3 places.

>> No.12067031

Sage

Anyway, wasn’t /pol/ created by Christopher Pools as a containment board to keep racists off the other boards?

/Pol/ seems to have totally backfired and made racism on all boards of the website worse.

>> No.12067041

>>12067019
>Atlantic slave trade v2

Why the fuck it wouldn't matter?

>> No.12067043

>>12066961
throughout the 80s and 90s. Africans would burn down anything their neighbors had and they did not. Or they just did it because they didn't like the other tribes and religions.

Haitians deforested their entire country for charcoal. This is also a problem in many parts of Africa. While many of them are rich in propane and natural gas. They don't create infrastructure of household tanks and distributors. So people can cook on a gas stove/oven.

>> No.12067051

>>12067031
What's racist about the OP?

>> No.12067092

>>12067043
its almost as though good decision making was linked to IQ

>> No.12067110

>>12066681
> Because niggers are too retarded to unify into United States of Africa.
Brexit

>> No.12067133

>>12066675
South Africa does have a space program

>> No.12067134

>>12067043
>throughout the 80s and 90s. Africans would burn down anything their neighbors had and they did not. Or they just did it because they didn't like the other tribes and religions.
Which Africans anon. You say Africans but specify which ones since there's 55 countries overall.

>Haitians deforested their entire country for charcoal.
Many parts are actually heavily forested. The only areas that did get cut down are the areas near roads.

>They don't create infrastructure of household tanks and distributors. So people can cook on a gas stove/oven.
Still leads to pollution thoguh and there are households that use gas and propane for heating and cooking. that actually leads to a lot of air pollution due to the usage of those products for cooking

>>12067041
>Atlantic slave trade v2
It's not lol

>> No.12067138

>>12066675
That's a nice looking plane. I'm lovin that blue.

>> No.12067141

>>12066681
Then I guess Europeans are too retarded to unite into United States of Europe as well as other countries.

>> No.12067148

>>12066768
>instead they have 7 kids each

Your dumb stereotype isn't true.

>> No.12067151

>>12067148
>4.69

What's the difference when its almost 5 times as much as it should be?

>> No.12067160

>>12067110
What does Brexit have to do with this?

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>>12066961
>infrastructure wasn't built for the needs and demand of nations
>they only served to extract resources and to transport them to ports.
>ran in routes that fell out of relevancy.
> Many old rail lines are still used or were not destroyed.
False as fuck.
Most rail lines did go to ports, which is always very relevant to any economy, but those ports were and remained big urban centers, and those lines linked them with other big urban centers, cause that's where the colonizers lived and that's where africans live now.
These old lines were used all the time, the only reason that stopped is that they were not taken care of.
For example I recently read about the Dakar Bamako line, which links two big capitals and is precisely on the most important route of imports and exports for Mali. Well it's fucked.

Pic related, all the important railways in disrepair in africa.

>> No.12067274

>>12067141
Europe united and has a space program.

>> No.12067369

>>12067274
EUSSR SPACE PROGRAM. Is mostly just tge French building obsolete rockets as a job program. Then a few astronauts getting trained by NASA to ride American and Russian rockets.

>> No.12067387

>>12066675
China doesn't deem it useful for them to have one.

>> No.12067409

>>12066753
Why do you think is a good idea to have kids when you are poor? Why do you even think that having kids is a good idea at all?
You seem to think its bad for them to go extinct, like those retards that say whites should reproduce more to 'win' against blacks. It's retarded. There's nothing to win, it's all losers.
If you are poor having kids is considered child abuse, it's like having kids during a famine, you must be retarded to think it's a good idea.

>> No.12067411

>>12066724
>IQ map
>World average isn't 100
Trash

>> No.12067436

>>12066777
>Many African countries already had an infrastructure left from colonial rule.
That infrastructure never went beyond major cities or towns and was restricted to where white people were moving around.There were hardly any infrastructure in the slums where blacks were living.

>> No.12067444

>>12066971

Why hasn't the thread ended here? OPs question has been answered and all posts beneath it including my own is unnecessary.

>> No.12068838

>>12066675
Africa superpower by 3020

>> No.12068904

>>12066753
>as expected of the japanese
that's racist you fucking nigger. How dare you imply that japanese people are more likely to be xenophobic you xenophobic degenerate flower power hippie dippie nigger lover.

>> No.12068914

>>12066675
Because right now, it's useles. It's like in 2000-2007 when Internet was super shit (technologically speaking), Africa didn't have it. And now, they all have smartphones

>> No.12069040

Imagine, you are more or less an Ethiopian scientist.

Now you are supposed to publish in Western journals, because you want to be "Western".

What happens then?

>> No.12069045

>>12066675
What's in space?

>> No.12069047

>>12066971
> Five satellites have been launched by the Nigerian government into outer space.

Impressive.

>> No.12069070

The West is building particle accelerators while they barely construct a plane.

How a literal peasant or son of peasant can compete with carefully groomed and sheltered scientists with more than 500 years of tradition?

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>>12066753
You have to go back.

>> No.12069085

>>12066724
>.t chang

>> No.12069103

>>12067409
>Why do you think is a good idea to have kids when you are poor? Why do you even think that having kids is a good idea at all?
Because not having kids is good way to die off. Especially since Africa has/had lot of things that fucked up fertility.

>You seem to think its bad for them to go extinct, like those retards that say whites should reproduce more to 'win' against blacks. It's retarded. There's nothing to win, it's all losers.
Because having more kids do well means your retirement is more secured. Ever seen a Chinese couple lose their only kid and the mother is too olf/can't get knocked up as easily?

>> No.12069111

>>12067263
>Most rail lines did go to ports, which is always very relevant to any economy, but those ports were and remained big urban centers, and those lines linked them with other big urban centers, cause that's where the colonizers lived and that's where africans live now.

Those were built around colony profit and not the locals habitation patterns on top of that many of those railroad required harsh forced labor to build. There are many places that should have rail road but don't. On top of that many of those rail liens were built to provide a military presence in the interior (look at how you have some rail lines extend into nothing).

Port Gentil actually had no roads to it DESPITE being port in Gabon.

>These old lines were used all the time, the only reason that stopped is that they were not taken care of.
Many of those rail lines had lower relevancy as time went on. Also one harsh fact about them is that many rail lines weren't profitable during the colonial era but were propped up by just sucking up colony taxes to sustain them. Post-independence now the tax burden is very heavy for many sates to handle on top of mismanagement.

>For example I recently read about the Dakar Bamako line, which links two big capitals and is precisely on the most important route of imports and exports for Mali. Well it's fucked.
Still exists"passenger services in Mali were only being offered three days between Bamako and Kayes via Kati and Diamou".

Also mismangment was due to PRIVATIZATION.
>In October 2003, Senegal and Mali privatised the railway following pressure from the World Bank. The Transrail Consortium, a Franco-Canadian management consortium, took over management of the line, changing hands several times.Management issues and a lack of investment led to serious degradation of the infrastructure and rolling stock and numerous delays. In Senegal, the maximum speed of the trains in many places have been limited to 20 km/h due to the bad state of the tracks.

>> No.12069113

>>12069111
>Despite Transrail's obligation to maintain a passenger service, they concentrated on the transport of goods. Many stations have been closed and the numbers of connections reduced, creating difficulties for isolated communities. Apart from the petit train de banlieue, twice-daily service between Dakar and Thiès, passenger services have been suspended since the 2009 accident.

Transrail was bought in 2007 by the Belgian company Vecturis.The line has not operated since May 2010.[6] In 2015, the governments of Mali and Senegal reached an agreement with China Railway Construction Corp (International) to restore the respective parts of the line. The concession to Transrail was terminated, and a new entity, Dakar Bamako Ferroviaire was to take its place.

>> No.12069115

>>12069070
>How a literal peasant or son of peasant can compete with carefully groomed and sheltered scientists with more than 500 years of tradition?

Quite easily since we have plenty of people come from humble beginnings that ended up doing great. Better yet one can pose a similar question in reverse.

How does the US which went from building great feats of engineering mange to struggle to maintain them let alone start new ones in 2020?

>> No.12069117

>>12069040
Hope you don't get hijacked by parachute researcher, someone does your work but gets spotted or you do paper with some guy but he gets all the rep from it. Same shit non-western/LatAm scientists face.

>> No.12069192

>>12066675
1. Africa is a continent.
2. Many African nations got space programs.

>> No.12069248

>>12066718
Indian space program started in the 60s, economy and government policies were terrible then, the fairing for the first rocket was transported by a bicycle

>> No.12069256

>>12066675
They do, look at that lovely video on the Congolese space program (in French) featuring the Minister of Research himself at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrlKWtkce5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrlKWtkce5I

>> No.12069257

>>12066753
no
we should simply not give them aid and let them achieve population equilibrium naturally as nature intended. If a population cannot sustain itself, it won't. People will die until they CAN sustain themselves. After back and forth, the system will achieve equilibrium, and real growth can be achieved at a steady pace.

The 1st world needs to stop pumping resources into the system and artificially bringing it up to the level in which it's energy needs are met.

>> No.12069277

>>12066675
Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

>> No.12069380

>>12066675
What do you mean? Africa does have a space program.

>> No.12069394

>>12066675
Nigeria does

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>>12066753
Ideally

>> No.12069532

>>12066675
What is up there anyway ?

>> No.12069593

>>12067409
Because kids work as a retirement fund when you are old. In most traditional societies, children live with their parents at least until they marry and take care of their parents in their old age.
Sure, you have to feed them when they are young but if you have several of them, they will ensure you stay fed until you die.
They also help out if you do hard manual labor (eg. breeding cattle, growing crops).

>> No.12069595

>>12069400
How the fuck is Europe negative while Africa is gonna double?

>> No.12069597

>>12069595
It's the BBC factor

>> No.12069606

>>12069597
More like (((ZOG))) factor.

>> No.12070257

>>12069103
>Especially since Africa has/had lot of things that fucked up fertility.

Like what specifically?

>> No.12070731

>>12066749

Do you know if there are any modern/accurate IQ studies of africa?

I REALLY don't want it to be true that they are so much lower than the rest of humanity. It's important that every race is capable of forward thinking and planning. If some are not then we are doomed.

>> No.12070753

>>12070731
>It's important that every race is capable of forward thinking and planning. If some are not then we are doomed.
Why? The world was perfectly fine before the late 1800s.

>> No.12070788

>>12070731
>It's important that every race is capable of forward thinking and planning.

Every race already is capable of forward thinking and planning.

>> No.12070799

>>12070257
Several diseases fuck up with fertility despite the person looking mostly okay after recovering. Also culture is a factor, many places had a pregnancy taboo where a husband can't fuck his pregnant wife and wives are abstinent until the kid is like 2-3 so that delayed a lot of births much to the chagrin of colonial admins in Belgian Congo.

>> No.12070847

>>12070799
You live in bizarro world. Meanwhile, in reality:
>https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/angola-family-buries-polygamist-big-dad
>Before he was laid to rest Sunday, the Angolan man known as Pai Grande, or Big Dad, drew a crowd of at least 1,000 people – including most, if not all, of his 156 surviving children and 250 grandchildren – topay their respects.

>> No.12071218

>>12066675
http://spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=54163
Collectively, 8 African nations are posting a skyward 35 satellites in orbit, mostly for imaging, weather and telecoms. They're currently generating a whopping $7B/yr in revenue.

For comparison, Canada, who doesn't even give a fuck (literally the ugly duckling of the G8 in terms of space), has 54 satellites and generates $5.6B in revenue.
Canada only spends $300M a years tho, so is actually more profitable.

There's over 21,000 satellites in space.. so practically speaking, OP has a valid question.

>> No.12071224

>>12066700
moron
this guy has been trying to make his own plane from scraps he's got for years. he had no aviation education nor formal engineering training and it was a big deal because he finally accomplished it. it was a personal victory
don't spread fake news

>> No.12071237

>>12070799
You keep using terms like "several" and "many", but we all know the real number is "not enough"

>> No.12071263

>>12071224
I think in countries where God pays attention we just call him a hobbyist.
You know damn well the most incredible part of this story is he did it in Africa, cause that place fuckin sucks and has nothing to offer

>> No.12071321

>>12069111
>Those were built around colony profit and not the locals habitation pattern
Nope, local habitation pattern, in africa like in europe, was to gather where there are jobs. Those railroads were fine.
>many of those railroad required harsh forced labor to build.
More reason not to let it go to waste.
>There are many places that should have rail road but don't
Yeah well same as everywhere until they are built. They started with a huge network at least.
>Many of those rail lines had lower relevancy as time went on.
Bercause since they were not maintained travelling on them was increasingly slow and dangerous, and so roads developped.
>Also mismangment was due to PRIVATIZATION.
Nope. Privatization failed because no private entity wanted to fund the restoration of the line... because it was fucked already and too expensive.

>> No.12071330

>>12069256
Oh man that's embarrassing.

>> No.12071354

>>12071330
It's all the more embarrassing when you know French

>> No.12071381

>>12066675
Some parts of Africa could have good infrastructure and science programs because they are rich in natural resources but they haven't been able to organize a functional society that allows them to do it. Their governments are either very corrupt or there's a lot of infighting.

>> No.12071510

>>12071354
>It's all the more embarrassing when you know French
There is a whole "best of congolese space program" on Youtube, to give you an idea of the level.

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>>12066675
>no one ITT has posted the Zambian Space Program yet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Makuka_Nkoloso#Space_program
TL;DR
>a Zambian man, Edward Nkoloso, tried to launch a 17 year old girl and two cats onto the moon
>their intent was to start a moon colony and convert the moon's inhabitants to Christianity
>they had no budget, so their entire program consisted of rolling the girl down a hill in an oil barrel to simulate a shaky rocket launch
>tried to appeal UNESCO for £7,000,000 for the project, which he was promptly denied
>the Zambian government was so embarrassed they denied any involvement in it

Ngl, it would have been badass if they could have pulled any space exploration off.

>> No.12071565

>>12071552
A colony of one girl... and two cats?

>> No.12071583

>>12071565
Yes

>> No.12071585

>>12066675
africans are dumb as fuck proto-humans, yeah sure there are some really intelligent africans, the rest of us wouldn't exist if it was impossible, but it's like 1 in 1000 as opposed to the 1 in 100 you get in other places.

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>>12071565
How else are you going to get a civilization made up of cat girls?

>> No.12071593

>>12069400
keep in mind that those population increases in western nations is from immigration. 3rd world shitholes are literally killing the world by fucking.

>> No.12071855

>>12071593
You do realize that a population implosion is generally really bad news economically, right? You have to import people because the entire model is a ponzi scheme. You never have to pay the bill that is due because more people are always paying into it. If they don't, then the whole thing collapses.

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>>12066675
Due to genetics factors .

>> No.12072422

>>12070731
>It's important that every race is capable of forward thinking and planning. If some are not then we are doomed.
Why? Just leave them to their Eden.
>we
Redefine your notion of "we" to only include sophonts.

>>12070788
Except for negroids, they're not.

>> No.12072574

>>12066675
no brain

>> No.12072630

>>12072422
>Except for negroids, they're not.
That's not true due to how my grandparents on both sides of my family were successful farmers

>> No.12072634

>>12072411
You can actually do the same in reverse.

>> No.12072641
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>>12066675
Be patient, they're coming for the automobile market first
https://twitter.com/AfricaStoryLive/status/1299754372277174274

>> No.12072650

>>12071321
>Nope, local habitation pattern, in africa like in europe, was to gather where there are jobs. Those railroads were fine.
No they gather around places that offer the safest habitation. Most railroads were built as way to project colonial power to the hinterland and shipping resources to ports. Peopl did go near them to make moeny but most Africans in the rural ares did not live near railroads (or use them).

>More reason not to let it go to waste.
High death tolls and population loss, rebellions formed from being worked to death and the cost being forced onto them.

>Bercause since they were not maintained travelling on them was increasingly slow and dangerous, and so roads developped.
AFrican rods were very undeveloepd tohguh because Colonies only linked them to nearby colonies of the same power so many areas don't even link to say neighboring states. Port-Gentil doesn't even have roads until the Chinese built it and France was too slow and this was within recent years.

>Nope. Privatization failed because no private entity wanted to fund the restoration of the line... because it was fucked already and too expensive.
Nah WB made the cuties sell the lines and the ocmpaneis did nothing because there is no obligation to make them better. Same way Britain sold off it's public transportation to private companies and service got worse because there's no competition to urge the private company to improve itself.

>> No.12072654

>>12072650
and road routes were very limited so there were many cities in the colonial era that had limited transportation to them.

>> No.12073126

>>12066675
iq

>> No.12073242

>>12066885
the US alone spent 20 times more on welfare for apes

>> No.12073253

>>12072630
recall the bell curve
A portion of any population will always be geniuses
your grandparents, and likely your parents and you as well, are on the high end of the scale

>> No.12073343

> What are you laughing at? You are laughing at yourselves!

a bitter laugh

>> No.12073374

>>12066753
You have to recognize an evolutionary dead end when you see one.
You think it's your right to give them money and food, but those you saved then flock to our countries, significantly reducing the intelligence per population ratio because of their lack of education, refuse to speak our language, and then try to force their religion, stupid ideas and laws (muh welfare) upon the rest of us, reducing the quality of life.
So yeah, don't act surprised when your actions have consequences.
It's our duty to help them, IF we actually have the resources to do it right, and IF that doesn't impact us negatively after.

>> No.12073413

btw a perfect example of cargo cult

you NEED to imitate the successful

>> No.12073429

>>12066675
>Why doesn't Africa have a space program?
Hmm... Good question.
>BING BING WAHOO
>let's launch 40 K of satellites that will ruin the night sky
>space rockets are just ICBMs in disguise
>let's train someone for years to just become a glorifided electrician and plumber
>let's give everything a special mission patch with special wake up-music so that the press can gobble that up
>make sure that a mission doesn't straddle the New Year's eve, because our billion dollars worth of KOPMPUTERS cannot handle something that a housewife can do with a wall calendar
>did something ruin the thermal plating of the space shuttle at the launch, well then let's bury it with Power Point-presentations
Gee, I dunno.

>> No.12073435

>>12072630
some african languages don't even have words to describe time. they don't understand the concept of past, present, future. how are they able to forward thinking?
don't get me wrong, i don't hate africa but your post is just wrong. not all negroids are able to forward thinking.

>> No.12073446

>>12066700
>Wright brothers-like
Retard! It is more WW1-era.

>>12066724
>muh IQ

>>12071321
>More reason not to let it go to waste.
No, more reason to just forget about them and salvage the metal. Because you don't throw good money after bad. If there's a high enough demand and carrying capacity, railroads will be built. It started in Europe with experimental and industrial railroads. It wasn't some big slave driver that came from another country and forced people.

>>12072641
May be unsafe at any speed over 40 km/h. But they've got soul. And why the fuck does we have to be so in a hurry all the time? It would be better if we could put our cars on trains for long distance, then use the car for the first leg of the travel.
>>12071263
>muh God

>> No.12073449

>>12073446
>then use the car for the first leg of the travel.
And the last leg, of course.

>> No.12073458

>>12066724
IQ less than 82 cannot be drafted to us military, such individuals are useless and cannot be trained for anything remotely useful.

>> No.12073483

>>12073458
the average iq of AA’s is 85 and the military has made exceptions for idiots in the past like during Vietnam

>> No.12073651

>>12066753
yeah, and?

>> No.12074140

>>12066675
what are the benefits of a space program?

>> No.12074146

>>12074140
Get the fuck out.

>> No.12074224

>>12074140
>>12074146
I'll rephrase the question. How do Africans benefit from African space programs, which only emulate missions already accomplished?
No one has introduced a space mission that offers material benefit to a nation or people. While a few african nations do have space programs and successful missions, I would argue these were a complete waste of resources for the africans. If anything the comtinent of africa should be dedicated to societal research. If scientists find away to solve the social problems faced by africans, that information would be invaluable to every nation in the world, who has much more satiable populations.

>> No.12074443

>>12066675
Systemic racism and oppression. Europeans looted Africa of its wealth and enslaved tens of millions of its best and brightest, many of whom went on to make important scientific contributions for Western Nations.

I shudder to think what Africa would look like today had there been no European contact.

>> No.12074627

>>12066724
>North Korea

>> No.12075545

>>12074224
>I would argue these were a complete waste of resources for the africans
Satellite, internet/cell coverage geo data etc.

>> No.12075555

>>12073435
>some african languages don't even have words to describe time.
That was some essay made by a shitty ass white supremacist who got btfo by an African in the comment section.

>they don't understand the concept of past, present, future. how are they able to forward thinking?
Because religions and farming involve those concepts constantly.

>>12073253
Nah you just can't honestly admit a nigger who is just average can be decently intelligent because everytime one pops up they re some sort of genius. It's like if God was saying to Job "find me one decent person in this city" and Job finds like 500 and God constantly shifts the criteria just because he REALLY wants to salt and burn 32 cities. F

>> No.12075571

>>12074443
>few parts of Africa sold slaves to Europeans and Americans looking for burly nogs smart enough to pick and plow
>dey took our best and brightest!

How did you even find this board, you dumb baitswallower. Why do you think they said "white mans burden"? Its because they were brought to BETTER conditions i.e CIVILIZATIONS and given a way better life. They were slaves over there too, and there still are child miners and warriors thanks to AFRICANS.

You dense fuck. You should shudder to think how far space exploration would be if we didn't give africans over 50 marshall plans in aid and feed them for free in our continents.

>> No.12075583

>>12075571
>you dumb baitswallower
>types up bait right after.

>> No.12075614

>>12075583
Point out whats wrong with what I said. Not even one of the points I made are refutable

>> No.12075621

>>12075555
Now do the adoption studies.

>> No.12075653

>>12066675
They already conquered the galaxy 10,000 years ago until another species defeated them, locked them on earth and punished them with low intelligence

>> No.12075661

>>12075621
Adoption studies can't control for prenatal nutrition

>> No.12075667

>>12066724
Oooooh now I get it
now I see why 4chan decided IQ is a meme
because if it isnt, then that means chinks have a higher IQ than than, and that would destroy their race theory

>> No.12075684

>>12075661
touché

>> No.12075687

>>12075667
>than than
Find me one white racist who doesn't already think Asians are smart, that shit was common in racialist thinking back in the 40's even.

>> No.12075690

>>12075614
Because your point would stand if those blacks were able to consensually migrate like nearly every other US migrant but they didn't.

>> No.12075693

>>12075687
Nah they always had a coping factor or "this is why white people are magic" statements.

>> No.12075697

>>12075693
The only coping factor I've seen with regards to asians in particular is claiming that the Chinese use selective testing to boost their numbers, never anything to do with Japanese or Koreans. I also don't know of any white people claiming to be magic besides a schizo maybe.

>> No.12075703

>>12075697
Have you never read any old literature at all?

>> No.12075712

>>12075703
Do you have anything in particular to direct me to? I'm mainly familiar with white American thinking of the past century.

>> No.12075718

>>12075690
They didn't invent a boat that could take them across. Even Darwin was baffled at their lack of basic inventions like the sail and wheel. They had mudhuts and went dick and tits out. It's not wrong by any means, but europeans brought civilization to a barren land of tribes that barely had any agriculture. Your notion that they got plundered and robbed of their smartest doesn't hold water. They were helped and now make 8 kids and eat khat all day in said mudhuts on the basis of european and american aid.

>> No.12075741

>>12075703
>>12075667
Also did you literally actually just now find out that Asians have the highest average IQ?

>> No.12075750

>>12066675
Umm they've been enslaved by white people too much to get one going maybe? How easy go you think it would be for you to do to the moon if you can't even read because it's illegal because of you're skin color...nuff said

>> No.12075784

>>12075667
No 4chans theory isn't that whites are the highest iq its simply that different races have different iqs.

>> No.12075797

>>12075750
What about Liberia where freed African slaves from the US moved there? Surely they would be superior to their other African counter parts.

>> No.12075806

>>12075797
Tell ya what buddy, I'll enslave you and leave you to die on a commitment you've never been to and see how well you can teach everybody about space travel. If it's not rocket science, nuff said.

>> No.12075836

>>12075750
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA SLAVERY


you fucking retard, when was the last time a niglet was shipped out?

you do realize they got money for said niglets? they literally were selling them.

you faggots only always talk about slavery.

you should look into how countries that got occupated by ruskies during the last century coped with it. it was literally enslavement of white people. actually more than that, it was culling of those that had the highest intelligenve to dumb everyone down, and yet, today, despite it showing, we're overall doing just fine.

its not even funny, its just sad when you can enslave white man and try to rob him of his own language and he'll find a way to transfer banned books and continue reading them, but you enslave a nigger, give it some shinies, and it becomes complacent and stays that way 200+ years later because he didn't even have the shinies.

Sad reality is, if not slavery of africans, niggers in USA wouldn't exist, because aboriginals were literally slaughtered there, when USA ran out of blacks, they started plundering Africa (that's why they plunder oil when plundering niglets was banned).

And speaking of niggers in USA, they were given a chance and what did they do for anyone including themselves? Nothing besides continuing being complacent and BLMeme.

>> No.12075878

>>12075836
Imagine being so retarded you genuinely fall for some of the most obvious bait.

>> No.12075883

>>12066675
Um, purely economic factors.

>> No.12075885

>>12066753
Yes.

>> No.12075898

>>12075750
Illegal in the US, but we're talking about Africa.

>> No.12075917

>>12075836
Boy has mental problems.

>> No.12075922

>>12075718
>Even Darwin was baffled at their lack of basic inventions like the sail and wheel.
They had said in eastern and northern Africa. Also africans do wear clothes in Africa on top of wearing less clothes since you know the place is mostly hot.

>> No.12076728

>>12075836
>Falling for obvious bait this hard

>> No.12076843

>>12066675

Because South Africa and Rhodesia were stabbed in the back by the west economically

>> No.12076859

>What is the Rwanda Space Agency
>What is SANSA

>> No.12077579

>>12075922
Ethiopians, Kushites and Berbers aren't Bantus

>> No.12079366

>>12066675

Why doesnt africa have basic sanitation?

Same reason they dont have a space programme. They expelled the white man.

>> No.12079829

>>12079366
>They expelled the white man.
Possibly the most reasonable thing they have ever done.

>> No.12081517

>>12066675

Too busy giving all their minerals to Apple

>> No.12083088

>>12077579
There's also clothes in central, southern and western Africa.

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>>12079366
>Why doesnt africa have basic sanitation?
That shit is expensive as fuck and building a modern one is super expensive. Especially since it requires ton of urban planning and consultation to make sure it's effective.

>They expelled the white man.
They didn't though. Like whites both local and expats/tourists are literally privileged in Africa lol.

>> No.12083097

>>12076843
Trying to maintain a colonial state out of pure delusion is cringey.

>> No.12083223

>>12066961
jfc this is tiresome. There is never a point where liberals will stop trying to defend blacks through rhetoric, and I will always have to sit through it because there is literally no way to convince people not to lie.