/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12048331
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, they'll be filling their ranks with code monkeys with half-decent portfolios now. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKT.

>>12048341
Always has been the case.

>>12048346
I mean, now more so than ever.

>>12048331
It only takes a couple of decent online courses to start programming nowadays, so yes, compsci has been literally dead for a while.

>>12048331
Unironically based.
I've been thinking that just training people to do what we need them to do would be better and cheaper because you can pay them less and it creates a dependency.
>>12048341
cope
>inb4
seething
>inb4
rent free

>>12048377
I have no vested interest, I'm a biofag.

>>12048331
Yeah but where do I apply?

>>12048387
anyone with a PhD that is in a research position is probably safe for a few hundred years.

>>12048331
So what should I major in now?! (for shit loads of money)
no meme answers like physics

>>12048419
Sociology or history.

Kek with history even the phd candidate positions are very competitive since its the only thing you can do with that degree.

>>12048469
learn to read retard
>no meme answers

>>12048419
You will never make a lot of money regardless of what you study. Remove that as a goal for your life or you will never be happy.

>>12048480
>no meme answers
holy shit are you guys sure you're college educated?

>>12048331
Big companies seem ass. I just want a comfy work from home job, travel to japan and make a few personal projects bros. Is it too much to ask

>>12048488
That's not a meme answer just because you don't like it.

>>12048419
ee do iot

>>12048371
And a company as big as google could probably just make it part of the onboarding process.

>>12048331
Is there anything more embarrassing than having a CS degree at this point?

>>12048331
>Google offers career certificates for
>Data Analyst
>Project Manager
>UX Designer
>IT Support Specialist
Notice something missing?

>>12048495
I want money.
I'm not going to waste my time for little money.

>>12048551
category theory?

>>12048556
Go to >>>/biz/ and never come back, faggot.

>>12048551
What's missing?
I don't get it.

>>12048561
I'm looking for a STEM major you retard.

>>12048571
hahahaahahahahahahahaahaha

>>12048590
what's funny.
simple question, still no answer.

LMAO this shit will never take off

>>12048571
The joke is you want to make money in STEM, where as, a business degree is what you make real money with. If not, do something like mining, petrochemical or chemical engineering, an "industrial subject".

>>12048628
I already basically do this part time while working on my degree, it's just the same shit minus the extra steps with the extra steps being college.

>>12048377
>Unironically based.
>I've been thinking that just training people to do what we need them to do

I agree with that, thats how America was made great, back in the day if you had a talent for something you could be hire without the need for an expensive college degree, your talent was your curriculum this also allowed a more efficient social mobility (if you have the talent you could easily get in higher positions/better salary) so at the end of the day it created a virtuous cycle for the whole country

>>12048493
Yes it is from today’s world

>>12048571
STEM is not for people who want to just make big bucks, it’s for smart people who have passion in STEM. People like you ruined the STEM by barely making your degrees and thus diluting the worth of the degree. Now you have to have major in any STEM to at least be somewhat respected and work as a researcher that can afford some quality of living.

>>12048802
with modern tools you can train any retard to do what engineers usually do.

>>12048916
>holy shit I need to get a graduate degree and do relevant research to be respected woe is me wahhhhh wahhhhhhh
boo hoo, tough brake loser.
> it’s for smart people who have passion in STEM
yeah I'm a smart guy that has a passion for doing STEM... FOR MONEY
So keep being sad about how you make dog shit money because you're a bioethicist or some shit, and tell me where the money is.

>>12048551
Full stack developers?

>>12048551
science?

>>12048642
This. Trust me you won't get rich in STEM I literally own a business and know other people who own businesses in chemistry and other stuff. It's not even the smart people who make money for the most part. It's about having a polished pitch, a clean idea, good connections, constant effort, and social skills. A business degree will also help. If you want money, become a plastic surgeon or become a CEO. Be prepared to have nothing in your life but money *if* you make it. No wife, no life, no kids. Balance is a meme, your competition will be a dude who lives on 3h sleep a night, knows everyone in the industry, and bangs Adderall like candy. you'll need to beat him.

>>12048524
Fuck off rEEtard

>>12048419
Advanced nigganometrics with a PhD in general nigganometry
Your non-meme answer is something that you’re good at and can make money off of. Don’t just pick a random major from pragmatism, that’s millennial shit advice

>>12048557
xd. You owe me my sides.

>>12048551
Secretaries?

>>12048935
Clearly you're not smart

>>12048331
Based.

>>12048551
This is is a retarded thread and has nothing to do with CS just IT. Atleast own CS for legitimate reasons

>>12048802
See also the William James essay "The PhD Octopus" for an earlier take on the theme of making too much of credentials.
>>12050101
>This is is a retarded thread
That would be par for the course, but nothing meta here is ever that bad.

>>12048419
Choose any engineering degree except anything that has to do with biotechnology.

>>12048371
>It only takes a couple of decent online courses to start programming nowadays, so yes, compsci has been literally dead for a while.
>>12048540
>Is there anything more embarrassing than having a CS degree at this point?
CS itself is a research field that exists beyond software or software engineering. Doing the basic plug n chug calculation in EE, or doing VLSI and CPU design does little to teach you how to tackle CS problems, except in architecture.
Either way, even when it comes to software engineering, writing software is part of screening but not really the most salient part of a google job - your skillset is largely about solving hard problems regardless of what background you have. I've seen software guys go into hardware design and vice versa given enough experience.

Funnily enough, I know 3 people who got CS PhD's working at Nvidia and Intel for core architecture

I got a degree in physics and comp sci and work as a research associate and really like my job, but it doesn’t pay like a typical career. I’m now going for my masters in EE and CE because I want to one day have my own tech business with my own products. The money is in entrepreneurship, but I’m gonna milk the industry for 6-10 years for career money and paying off student debt. One of my physics profs that I worked closely with told me not to seek a Ph.D because I got skills with my hands

>>12051929
>.

This is mostly to benefit people who were 95% complete with their education but got screwed over by their unis and then caught up in the transfer game. I know a guy with 135 credits, and no degree because of the scenario just described and he had a QPA around 3.9.

>>12052500
Whats a QPA

>>12052055
>i posted the blue man meme again!
i know it's easy to live in a world where CS is categorically bad but things aren't that simple.

>>12048331
Lmao sorry this is only to allow for the hiring of ghetto niggers

>>12048331
Finallly. FUCK ACADEMIA.


Also, fuck compsci trannies and math schizos.

>>12052536
Cumulative GPA. I hate the abbreviation too.

>>12052626
I posted that as a joke thinking it was a typo, had no idea that was a real thing