/sci/ - Science & Math

Fuck starliner, imagine a world with dream chaser on a new glenn reusable first stage

SLS
IS
REAL

fug bong

>by the time Starship rides to Mars become available to the general public, you'll be too old to survive one

>>12047124
Death by Martian aerocapture beats colon cancer in a nursing home.

>>12047124
Are you above 45 bru?

E*rthnoid purge when?

When will we start building the first rotating space stations?
My guess would be 5 years

>>12047114
>he fell for the SLS hoax
Not gonna make it.

>>12047173
The ISS should be used to build it.

>>12047124
Just put yourself in a 30 year torpor in a backyard bunker and an automatic revive/alarm clock

>>12047173
It really all depends on how quickly automation progresses. I'd say 5 years is a safe guess as long as starship is successful.

>>12047173
5 to 10 years depending on how quickly manned space flight will move and how strongly the 'pointless micro-g experiments' lobby fights progress.

>>12047212
Micro g experiments can still happen. We just build moduless off the rotational axis . There is no point in continuing the dead end that us long term micro g human space flight. Though micro g fabrication has potential still.

>>12047103
>>12047125
Just realised what glowing Starhopper reminds me of.

When are they gonna pick up the giant trashcan and move it to the launchpad?

>>12047173
legitimate question but what would it be used for, at least initially?

>>12047283
Float around, film porn.

>>12047283
Tom Cruise movies

>>12047283
Human habitation suitability, abd mars gravity suitability.

We know 1g is good and 0g is bad. So what about centrifugal "gravity" and .3g?

>>12047283
A nice comfy place for people to do space stuff.

Experiments, space telescopes, tourism, the Musk sex mansion.

>>12047348
The Musk Manor is going to a dome built over Olympus Mons' caldera.

>>12047283
Probably should make one in Earth orbit to study the effects of long-term exposure to martian gravity on humans. Just in case it turns out just as bad as 0g and we really need to think over our plans for colonization of other planets

>>12047124
How old are you

Anyone here in an amateur rocket club? What is it like?

Hop this friday?

>ywn find a hot spacex gf
why even live /sfg/ bros?

>>12047173
It could be done right this second with three modules. One ten meter center truss with a docking port in it's center and rope/cloth/woven ladders going down both sides. This can also hold battery packs and solar panels backed by radiators to manage heat and generate power. The other two modules are identical ten meter long, say 3 or 3.5m wide habitats, this would make them five decks assuming a deck is ten feet tall. Small rocket motors (you could even make them solids) can set this dumbell station spinning at 4rpm which will develop about .25g on deck 5. This is probably more than enough to preserve human health on the station indefinitely, especially combined with regular resistance exercise and pressure garments. If you added two more central booms and made a station 50m in diameter, with an rpm of 4 you could easily develop nearly half a g.

See pic related, maybe not as ambitious as a von Braun torus, but it would serve as a cheaper, smaller alternative for non-government projects and as proof of concept.

Continuing from last thread, what would a "terraformed" Hellas Basin look like?
Atmosphere just over the Armstrong limit, requiring breathing masks because it's poison. A small ocean/large brine lake that probably too toxic for humans to use it as anything but thermal mass. Weird genetically-edited lichen and microbial mats everywhere, conditioning the soil and water.
For colonists, it would be paradise- they could walk around outside in regular clothes.

Friday feels so far away

I've got a stupid question bros. Is the Dragon logo blue or purple? Can't tell.
t. retarded colorblind person

"Let's be very honest again, SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis..."

>>12047448
Would the atmosphere stay put?

>>12047173
hweel

>>12047462
Deep blue.

*Ahem*

>>12047482
much love

>>12047478
That's what I was trying to figure out, but people seemed to think it would with some incidental replenishment.
I was trying to brainstorm some ways to contain slightly thicker atmospheres but I'm not qualified enough to know if they're dumb.

>>12047488
Fuck the round trip, I'll take the one way.

>>12047478
It should, assuming it's pretty much just Nitr/Ox, we know that the majority of Mars' atmosphere loss problem isn't to do with gravity or anything, since much tinier worlds like Titan can retain atmospheres even thicker than Earth's. Mostly it's an issue of solar wind slowly stripping the atmosphere away, day by day, year by year, century by century.
A relatively small magnetic umbrella could be established in Mars Orbit to hang over a Hellas colony basin and protect it from most of the solar wind, it's even deep enough that as long as you supply it you can artificially generate an ozone layer to protect you from UV radiation.

>>12047498
>>12047505
You could build giant factories that strip the CO from Martian CO2 and pump the O2 into the crater.

>>12047525
Yes, most of what's needed already exists, the major hurdles aren't technological, but to do with two things, energy and scale. The project would be one of unprecedented scale even if we were to attempt something like it on Earth (say creating a giant artificial inland ocean). A massive supply of nitrogen would also need to be found, roughly quadruple the amount compared to your oxygen. The gas mix would be injected starting at the bottom of the crater and increased till it rises to between 6 and 7km in height. At this point a ring of UV lasers can be used to excite the upper layers of our artificial atmosphere thus creating ozone, although I suspect that the ambient amount of UV that Mars gets bombarded by would probably be enough on it's own to build up a significan ozone layer.

>>12047525
The problem is that you need an inert (for breathing purposes) gas to go along with your oxygen. Pure oxygen environments are bad news. How much nitrogen/argon/whatever else does Mars have to go around?

>>12047566
Ah, I looked it up. About 4.5% nitrogen/Argon mix in the martian atmosphere. Not a whole lot, but workable on planetary scales if you're trying to make a small area habitable.

>>12047566
Mars' atmosphere has about 2.6% nitrogen, so it is readily available, but you'd have to succ and process a gargantuan amount of Martian atmosphere to get what you'd need from it. We need more surveys of the polar ice, some might be trapped in there along with the potential water.

>>12047566
>not using 1atm pure oxygen
bruh do you want gainz or not

Somebody help a brainlet's curiosity.
Assuming nuclear pulse propulsion rockets became a thing, how long would that era of space travel last? Nuclear bomb materials aren't exactly cheap or easy to acquire. I can't really find an estimate on how many bombs one of these rockets would use.

>>12047566
Get the nitrogen from Triton.

>>12047596
It's worth noting that propulsion bombs are much smaller than weaponized bombs, your propulsive nukes would be more like the little davy crocket nuke, shit probably even smaller, close to the minimum necessary size to generate a nuclear detonation at all.

>>12047566
Inert gas isn't technically necessary.

It's the partial pressure of oxygen that determines human habitability.

With this being said, you could get nitrogen from the Martian atmosphere.

>>12047609
that's what I figured, most of the info I can find are just "it shoots shaped nukes lol"

>>12047596
Depends if torch ships are actually real.

You'd probably move on to a new technology long before you run out of fissile material.

>>12047103
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_transport#Under_development
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/quesst.html
https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/04/boom-supersonic-nabs-100m-to-build-its-mach-2-2-commercial-airliner/

Anyone else get the feeling that Starship inter-continental will be directly competing with these rising quiet supersonic airplanes and ultimately the convenience of a plane and airport will beat out the inconvenience of a rocket launch and sea-port even given the faster travel times?

Supersonics are making a comeback, it feels like SpaceX should focus on space travel rather than air travel because a quiet supersonic airplane boarded at your normal airport will be the preferable option for the vast majority of people I think.

>>12047616
Unfortunately that's about as much information as I know too, I think the propulsion bombs would operate in a somewhat similar manner to casaba howitzers, but with only a fraction of their yeild and size. There will be a boosted implosion type nuke surrounded by a reflective shell roughly shaped like a bell nozzle, filled in with some material to be transformed into a plasma state. This shaped charge nuke will project a connical cloud of plasma out of the case, which will then be vaporized, and into the pusher plate of the ship, imparting a relatively huge force to the plate. This force is absorbed by shock absorbing pistons and transferred into the ship, shoving it forward. The bombs fire in a cadance such that the individual pushes blend together and create smooth acceleration that doesn't shake the crew to death.

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-perfect-real-estate-for-a-moon-base-has-just-been-confirmed

The Moon and Mars has city sized lava tubes because of the lover gravity, sounds like an absolutely kino location for a base.

>>12047596
You would switch to fusion or antimatter pellets eventually I guess.

e.g. Project Daedalus, Mini-Mag Orion, magneto-inertial fusion, etc etc

>>12047677
we need to send a fucking RCS drone down these lava tubes

>SpaceX is betting on 42 Raptor engines to operate in unison to get the vehicle into orbit – a design very much resembling the Soviet N1 moon rocket that clustered 30 engines and failed miserably during all of its test flights in the 1960s & 70s.

How do we know this thing won't just N1 itself?

>>12047698
it has actual valves instead of fucking pyrotechnics

>>12047612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1

>>12047698
>How do we know this thing won't just N1 itself?
Because SpaceX is testing their systems along the way, and can perform a test fire of the whole stack under controlled conditions. The Soviets rushed their designs for the N1, and took the philosophy of "test as you fly" to its purest form.

>>12047698
bro how are the gonna manage the FPS drop from that many engines

>>12047698
Wouldn't Spacex actually test the engines on the ground unlike the N1 where they just fired it and hoped for the best?

>>12047701
it isn't even real, it's literally on the drawing board

SLS is real

>>12047719
based

>>12047706
>The plugs-out test had been run to simulate the launch procedure, with the cabin pressurized with pure oxygen at the nominal launch level of 16.7 psi (115 kPa), 2 psi (14 kPa) above standard sea level atmospheric pressure. This is more than five times the 3 psi (21 kPa) partial pressure of oxygen in the atmosphere, and provides an environment in which materials not normally considered flammable will be highly flammable and burst into flame.[34][35]
>The high-pressure oxygen atmosphere was similar to that which had been used successfully in the Mercury and Gemini programs. The pressure before launch was deliberately greater than ambient in order to drive out the nitrogen-containing air and replace it with pure oxygen, and also to seal the plug door hatch cover. During launch, the pressure would have been gradually reduced to the in-flight level of 5 psi (34 kPa), providing sufficient oxygen for the astronauts to breathe while reducing the fire risk

TL;DR just don't have too high of a partial pressure of oxygen and it'll be fine

probably

>>12047716
probably lower post-processing and particle density

>>12047719
>takes almost an entire year to do a test fire despite the rocket being there right now
>a test fire that it was supposedly ready for since 2014
Is this the power of oldspace?

>>12047698
N1 failed due to a combination of satanic plumbing design and in the case of many of it's engine batches, a literal complete absence of quality control. They couldn't weed out failed engines becasue they didn't even bother to test fire the engines to see if any were defective.
There are two solves for this, firstly Raptor is designed by computer and mostly assembled by computer too, it's tolerances are inhumanly tight, where rockets from the cold-war era could need dozens or even hundreds of man-hours of tweaking and adjustment just to keep from exploding. This is no longer the case.
Raptors will presumably also be test fired at least once if not multiple times before flight, ensuring that every raptor attached to a superheavy or Starship is one which is already firing proven.

>>12047719
SLS will still be on that stand when they do the first full-stack SS/SH test flight

>>12047719
imagine her smell

>>12047694
Yes, this is what I hate, the scale at which we are doing things right now, we need to be sending dozens of landers, orbiters rovers all over the solar system every year to find and map all these interesting spots man.
I really hope Starship will fly, it will skyrocket the entire space industry in every way possible!

>>12047728
>>takes almost an entire year to do a test fire despite the rocket being there right now
>>a test fire that it was supposedly ready for since 2014
>takes 7 years to do an engine test
>ditches the engines after one flight

>>12047762
Would an RCS drone even work on the moon?

>>12047559
>say creating a giant artificial inland ocean
We did that on accident once

>>12047764
O L D S P A C E

>>12047698
31 not 42

>>12047420
God willing, yes.

>>12047773
>However, many of the settlements substantially shrank in size, or have been abandoned, mostly due to the increasing salinity and pollution of the lake over the years from agricultural runoff and other sources. Many of the species of fish that lived in the sea have been killed off by the combination of pollutants, salt levels, and algal blooms. Dead fish have been known to wash up in mass quantities on the beaches. The smell of the lake, combined with the stench of the decaying fish, also contributed to the decline of the tourist industry around the Salton Sea. The US Geological Survey describes the smell as "objectionable", "noxious", "unique", and "pervasive".[26]
IMAGINE

>>12047766
No, of course not, we would use some kind of rover that would descend using a rope or something, or map it using radar, going around the top of the hole.

>>12047431
That film Passengers had a comfy premise

awooo

Today in history:
>1981 – Voyager 2 spacecraft makes its closest approach to Saturn.
>1989 – Voyager 2 spacecraft makes its closest approach to Neptune, the last planet in the Solar System at the time, due to Pluto being within Neptune's orbit from 1979 to 1999.
>2012 – Voyager 1 spacecraft enters interstellar space becoming the first man-made object to do so.

>>12047719
As far as shitposting is concerned, this is my favorite.

>>12047566
>>12047559
>>12047525
>>12047505
Would infalling CO2 from the natural martian atmosphere be a big problem? If there were complete intermixing, it would put CO2 levels at about half a percent, and 5000 ppm has a notable effect on people even if it's not explicitly dangerous.
I suppose if you're already sucking in and processing retarded quantities of atmosphere from outside Hellas, it wouldn't be too much extra work to have air scrubbers in the basin itself, but it's something to note. Maybe a giant algae mat covering most of the lake would take care of it.

>>12047802
Yes, if I were doing a project this big I'd want to genetically engineer some plant or algae that is perchlorate tolerant (if possible) and extremely CO2 hungry.

>>12047641
Yes, point to point space travel is retarded, and anyone who seriously thinks it's happening should be laughed at.

>>12047808
There are even bacteria that use perchlorates for energy and release oxygen as a byproduct

Helium rockets when?

>>12047826
Not anytime soon, we have a serious Helium shortage on Earth.

Vaporized uranium rockets when?

>>12047793
I miss when people thought more Voyagers would be sent.

>>12047774
Again why are they using hydrolox?

>>12047851
it just werks

>>12047802
>>12047808
Wait, that could be based

>O2 atmosphere starts doing O2 shit
>CO2 percolates into O2 atmosphere
>plants convert said CO2 into O2
>O2 goes back into atmosphere
>O2 atmosphere continues to grow until the partial pressure is so high that wood becomes flammible and a forest fire kills everyone in the enclosure with smoke inhalation
>future generations of Martians view "the smoke dome" as it is commonly called as a monument to man's hubris

That or start pumping in nitrogen

>>12047851
Because the Shuttle used it, and the Shuttle used it because it was essentially a super sized upper stage.

>>12047855
Yes, assuming you have genetically supercharged perchlorate eaters processing Martian soil and generating oxygen you might just be able to leave Hellas to sit there and stew away while you either ship nitrogen in from somewhere else, or slowly scrape what you need from the Martian atmosphere.

>>12047855
Because you would need to artificially maintain O2 at acceptable levels anyway, if it produced excess the whole thing could act as a semi-organic LOX farm.

is axiom gonna be vaporware

>The company's leadership team is largely composed of former NASA employees, including former NASA Administrator Charles Bolden.[3]
uh oh bros...

>>12047845
Wahey, someone noticed one of my space history posts.

>>12047886
Oldspace 2, Hydrolox boogaloo.

>>12047878
>I'm just a humble Martian, farming my LOX.

>>12047698
>engines that can be tested several times before putting them on the rocket
>control software that wasn't written by russian gulag slaves in the 60s
>turbopumps that don't have a tendency to explode
>probably plumbing won't be completely retarded

>>12047736
>They couldn't weed out failed engines becasue they didn't even bother to test fire the engines to see if any were defective.
They couldn't test them because the engines were only good for one shot because of the reverse of:
>>12047701

Anyone remember Galactic Suites, which was aiming to build hotels in space by 2012?

>>12047889
Keep up the good work.

>>12047886
Which company?

>>12047922
They are talking about Axiom.

>>12047881
Kino, if they can pull it off

>>12047943
imagine the smelle!

>>12047917
No. RIP.

>>12047936
I wonder if Bolden will say "Axiom is real" in defense of the project.

>>12047698
In addition to everything already posted, we now have modern computers + lack of proper cold war.

>>12047946
imagine the seks!

mechanical counterpressure suits I can fap to when?

when?

>>12047954
>no codpiece

Anyone remember the Gateway Foundation?
I know it's probably only that one boomer behind it, but still kino desu!

>no laythe in the solar system
>no distant binary red dwarf orbiting the sun out in the oort cloud
bros wtf this place is fuckin gay

>>12047982
Who knows we could still have a primordial black hole as planet 9, that would be extremely kino

>>12047982
What is Titan?
Are you rarted?

>>12047999
titan is too cold and gay and cloudy

>>12047991
>can do all our black hole research from within our own fucking solar system

would be cool and kino

Bros (not muricans), where do you get your space merch from? SpaceX shipping is fucking 80 euros, that's insane.

>>12048005
Fuck off, Titan is the coolest shit.

>Boing! Avionics software.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k238XpMMn38

jupiter aerobraking WHEN

>>12048023
>He thinks this is abnormal for any software program

>Regarding Spacecraft Navigation, Moriba Jah was the first to demonstrate the ability to process Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) data collected onboard the spacecraft, during aerobraking, in an Unscented Kalman Filter to statistically infer the spacecraft's trajectory independent of ground-based measurement data. Jah did this using actual IMU data from Mars Odyssey and Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. Moreover, this is the first use of an Unscented Kalman Filter to determine the orbit of an anthropogenic space object about another planet.[4]
imagine the smell!

>>12048024
It'll be spicy as hell.

>>12047881
>is axiom gonna be vaporware
99% sure it's a scheme to steal tax money, set up by politicans&ex NASA employees.
>they were created in 2016
>have achieved nothing so far
>somehow get a massive contract&constant tax money cashflow without nothing to show for it that they can actually pull it off.

Most pictures inside ISS make the walls look very cluttered, covered in wires. How much of that could be optimised for a neater look without removing important stuff or making it hard to access?

>>12048085
the ISS is optimized for science experiments so I'm sure commercial stations optimized for leisure and user experience will have much nicer and sleeker interiors

>>12047991
I just think that if it actually was a black hole we would know it by now

>>12048048
me and dad :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfVzqAxdFWM
why hasnt nasa made this???

>>12048085
"Neater look" is for when you get down to dollars per kilo to the moon.

>>12048101
The big crane is there, I wonder if the mass sim is going up today or tomorrow

>>12048104
It's legs are under constant strain and are in danger of breaking. There doesn't seem to be any scientific equipment on it, not even cameras. Also, I'm not sure what drives that thing.

>>12048101

>>12048122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw-WJkJK210

How did atomic era silver rockets landing on their tail turn out to be the right answer?

>>12048138
Because, for once, reality has been nice to us and decided to have some fun.

>>12048097
Anon. this primordial black hole would be ridiculously tiny.
Although to be fair, current physics says no such thing should exist.
So the whole planet 9 idea is probably still just a bunch of wobbeling in asteroids reinforcing itself until it looks like there might be a planet.

>>12048097
Nah, not really, if it was really a primordial black hole, around 5 times the mass of Earth, it would be smaller than a bowling ball, so it would be really hard to find.

hydrolox core + kerolox boosters
good idea y/n

>>12048151
No.

Methalox

>>12048151
Seems familiar.

>>12048146
Reality bends around the collective subconscious

going back to ethalox WHEN

>>12048160
Humanity is God, and I wanna go to fucking SPACE.

kerolox booster + hydrolox upper stage
good idea y/n

>>12047124
They launched someone in his 70s on the Space Shuttle

5STOs when?

>>12048174
Worked for Cluster's Last Stand.

>>12048148
>Although to be fair, current physics says no such thing should exist.

Physics permit small black holes

>>12048117
labpadre chat seems to think the sim is at the pad right now, and there was a group of people on a lift looking at the top of sn6 like 20 minutes ago, so hopefully today

>>12048148
>>12048150
Even if a black hole that tiny could exist, I just refuse to believe it would be in our solar system just flying around without causing other issues. The answer to the planet 9 question will be boring because we live in a boring solar system.

>>12048138
>writers and artists of yesteryear: rockets need to be tough, so they're probably steel
>Old Space then: NONONO STEEL IS TOO HEAVY! We'll only use the most advanced materials who may be ill suited for the task, but we can use advanced science to make it work anyway, saving several grams on every flight for just a few billion dollars extra

>One Musky Boy recently: Hey, I'm new here. I'm gonna build rockets out of steel cause it's tough.
>OS: But you need to-
>OMB: Eh?
>OS: Advanced materials and -
>OMB: Huh?
>OS: YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD ROCKETS IN A SCRAPYARD IN A SWAMP!

>>12048184
But it doesn't permit them to form this late in the universe and it doesn't permit them to last from when they could've formed all the way up until now.

>>12048189
>I just refuse to believe it would be in our solar system just flying around without causing other issues.
You don't know how black holes work

>>12048189
>without causing other issues
What issues? All the issues it would cause are localized in the area that a planet of the same mass would normally occupy. Which at this distance is completely fucking tiny.

Although I will agree that it is probably just going to be boring. As I said. There are theories that don't even require a planet 9 at all.

>because we live in a boring solar system.
From what we've seen so far our solar system may actually be pretty weird what with Jupiter all the way out there. Most Jupiter sized planets we've found so far were hugging their suns pretty closely.

>>12048193
>it doesn't permit them to last from when they could've formed all the way up until now
https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator
Lifetime of a 10 Earth-mass black hole is 567,661,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years

ENCELADUS
WHEN

>>12048189
>Even if a black hole that tiny could exist, I just refuse to believe it would be in our solar system just flying around without causing other issues

It wouldn’t have any effect whatsoever on the wider solar system aside from its gravity, which is apparently not dramatically stronger than Earth’s

>>12048219
GTFO encel.

>>12048219
based

>>12047698
31 retard

SNIFF
THE
FUCKING
PLUMES

>>12048019
where is that picture from

>>12048019
Cool ass picture

>>12048258

>>12048269
wanna see my ass pictures :)

>>12048258
SNFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>12047943
just don't post the bedroom

>>12048032
>Unscented Kalman Filter
imagine the... what?
>>12048162
>fuel disappears when engineers have a party

>>12047969
>renamed cus nazi boogyman
it's cucked. also they seem too reliant on these fab bots they haven't invented yet

>>12048101

>>12048266
>>12048269
It's from an artist called Estevan Guzman, he has a whole album of shit like this.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/xz82O2

>>12048318
kek

Io foundries when?

>>12048122
All aboard the Starship Homolust. Your captain will be Captain Araki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>12047954
When they figure out how to keep certain spots on the body pressurized without custom molding foam inserts.

>There's a bug with CityLights though. To fix it, simply remove or comment out isClamped = True from every entry in the RSSVE\Configs\EVE_Configs\CityLights\RSSVE_City_Lights_Config.cfg file.
UNCLAMP

Probably more than a dozen solar system bodies have some form of life on them!
Try to prove me wrong, you can't!

It had a good run

>>12048384
Did spacex take them down?

>someone resurrected EVE terrain to kinda work on RSS again
BASED

>>12048402
nah, the stream just moved to a different link

>>12048368
name 1 (one) (uno) (einer)

>>12048402
Nah, they're live now. And since when did SpaceX take anyone down?

>>12048368
>Venus’ atmosphere
>Mars
>Ceres’ ocean
>Europa
>Ganymede
>Callisto (maybe)
>Enceladus
>Dione
>Rhea
>Titan
>Titania
>Oberon
>Triton
>Orcus
>Pluto
>Makemake
>2007 OR10
>Eris
>Sedna

Link: >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_lakes_and_seas_in_the_Solar_System

What’s funny is like only three are even in the habitable zone lmao

>>12047698
Falcon Heavy has 27 and people brought up the same concerns.
They are good engineers and do a lot of testing.
Also computers are better now.

>>12048423
Yeah, the habitable zone is complete bs, chances are, that most of these objects harbor some kind of life!

Someone post the Falcon Heavy is on te drawing board pasta please.

>>12047717
Yes

>>12048438
This also remember that the N1 was slowly but surely fixing its problems. It’s final flight actually flew well until a bit before stage separation. It took 4 N1’s to get that far. Even if SpaceX sacrifices dozens of Starships over the years, they have infinite money at this point.

>>12048441
Habitable zone my ass. Bacteria lives inside of rocks and eats minerals

3 launchpads at work. 2 for starship, 1 for superheavy

>>12048442
>"Let's be very honest again. We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry."

>>12047774
>pic
Based

>>12048423
>>12048441
i mean the habitable zone pretty much just means a region of the solar system that allows planetoids to have conditions that allow humans to not have some form of suit

>>12048459
This shit is super funny because it doesn’t even make sense.

>“I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy”

The fuck does that even mean? He says no hardware exists but also says that it’s just three Falcon 9s atrapes together.

Stupid question, but I have a few space problems.
• What exactly... is... that thing they call “The Bends”. How does decompression sickness work in the ocean, and is it the same as an astronaut in space leaving or entering the ISS too quickly? I assume it has to do w/ fluids in general?
• [Follow up question] What would happen to an astronaut who leaves or enters the ISS without prebreathing oxygen/preparing and stuff. Let’s say an astronaut enters the airlock and immediately pressurizes it to equalizes with the station in an instant, would he die?
• Can “air pressure” be used to simulate “gravity”? On titan the gravity is much lower, the air pressure however is much more significant than Earth’s. I’ve heard they balance out and it feels very similar to Earth. With this line of thinking, what would happen if something like the ISS or a bigalow inflate-a-ring were to be pressurized up to 50atm - surely the astronauts wouldn’t feel any gravitational effects of any sort- yet they would feel... tighter? Heavier? What exactly would they feel?

>>12048459
Thanks. What is the guy that said it called?

>>12048475
Certainly more Falcon Heavy hardware was around than SLS hardware

>>12047908
tfw you realize you're becoming Owen and Beru Lars.
Then ULA sends snipers to find and kill you. They were too accurate to be Arianespace.

>>12048483
He's a bold man

>>12048475
hence the "It's not that easy in rocketry". He wants to say that rocketry is not as easy as strapping shit together and call it good.
It still doesn't make sense since that's the whole principle of reusing shuttle hardware [which SLS uses, although with (as far as I understand) vast modifications (it's not that easy in rocketry, heh, there are various levels of irony here)] , but oh well.

>>12048483
I think it was Charles Bolden.

>>12048494
SLS is peak “hey let’s reuse this hardware oops it’s different now”

>SRBs are shuttle-derived, but are almost completely different internally (look at the nozzle specifications vs shuttle ones)
>Core is Shuttle - Derived but internally different
>Everything else is pretty much brand new

The only truly shuttle thing with SLS are the engines.

>>12048475
>>12048459
They're also flying FH in Q4 2020

>>12048482
>What exactly... is... that thing they call “The Bends”. How does decompression sickness work in the ocean, and is it the same as an astronaut in space leaving or entering the ISS too quickly? I assume it has to do w/ fluids in general?
How much gas you can dilute on a liquid depends on the pressure of the solution. If you change the pressure of the solution too quickly the gas comes out explosively, think of a soda bottle that was shaken and opened.
There is no (significant?) pressure differential between the ISS and the transport ships, the transition from one to another is like changing form one room to another on URF.

>Can “air pressure” be used to simulate “gravity”? On titan the gravity is much lower, the air pressure however is much more significant than Earth’s.
That is due to the weight of the air column, it acts *from every direction*. If anything it could increase your buoyancy due to the higher density.
Since you cannot breathe it, it will be like depth diving (with pressurized air or in a heavy diving suit).

>what would happen if something like the ISS or a bigalow inflate-a-ring were to be pressurized up to 50atm - surely the astronauts wouldn’t feel any gravitational effects of any sort- yet they would feel... tighter? Heavier? What exactly would they feel?
It would feel much heavier to breath and a bit heavier to move. It would be like diving at depth. It could cause breathing problems since inhaling and exhaling would take much more effort. They would also speak funny.
(I think the maximum air pressure at which a person can safely breath while diving is 30atm)

>>12048459
>he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy
Can someone find an Elon in this side view so we can have another "Yes." meme?

>>12048482
>>12048597
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmy8hqYvEyw

>>12048501
Thanks. I see what you did here, kek >>12048490

>>12047283

Space infrastructure, needed for deep space travel.

These stations could:
- Refuel ships
- Repair ships
- Offer accommodations for space travellers
- When returning from Deep Space to Earth, you would disembark first in one of these before heading straight to Earth.
- Space trading
- Anything space related really, since taking anything from space to Earth just to go back to space is way too expansive.

>>12048597
what would the increased pressure on titan feel like? would it not be too noticeable?

>>12048601

>>12048611
>Refuel ships
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT COMMIE TALK RIGHT NOW

>>12048613
>The surface pressure is about 50% higher than Earth at 1.5 bars
Would feel very much the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Titan

Also, on space ships, it is usually preferred to have a pressure lower than 1atm to reduce the structural stress.

>>12048601
another one

>>12048619
>commie talk
The only commie talk right here is you trying to prevent america from remaining number 1 in space

>>12048611
Basically anything heavy that would be needed in large amounts could be manufactured in space.

>>12048619
>gas stations are communism

kinda neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWuZZ6akY8

>>12048601
Could you theoretically stick four boosters on?

>>12048190 Check out "Big Dumb Booster" in Wikipedia - 1950's technology coming to life now.

We could do a crewed flyby of the Moon RIGHT NOW if they use Falcon Heavy.
But Elon doesn't want Falcon Heavy to be crew certified?
Easy PR win and space program progress what's not to like?

>>12048648
We cannot allow these fuel depots to keep cropping up on American soil, all cars should be designed with detachable and expendable fuel tanker trailers and discarded at the end of the roadtrip.

>>12048632
>>12048648
IF I HEAR THE D WORD ONE MORE TIME I'M CANCELLING COMMERCIAL CREW

>>12048632
Not really a challenge

>>12048664
DEPOT YOU CHINESE SHILL! OFF YOURSELF!

>>12048651
AYYYY LMAO BOING HAS TO PROJECT SPACE BEHIND THE ROCKET BC IT CANT FLY
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
AHAHAHAHAAH BOINGAYS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>12048616
thanks anon
surprisingly it looks good in 32-color mode

>>12047698
>failed miserably
They almost got it right in the last flight, and did well enough considering their limited resources. Fucking water hammer, stealing us from the glory of seeing that thing fly.

>>12048672
the Yes needed to be bigger

>>12047114
>SLS Is Real
>SLS Israel
>Shekel Launch System

In theory, you could fly a Superheavy using entirely flight tested engines, by keeping a hopper around in Boca Chica as a flying test stand.

>>12048671
based /g/uru

>>12048689
cute

Why is Starhopper at Boca Chica just kinda looming around?

>>12048651
>You are about to see the first ever 3D animated projection on an operational rocket.
One question.
> W H Y ?

What is the most based way to name planets/moons/other celestial bodies?

>>12048702
anime characters

>>12048702
anatomy

>>12048708
benis :DDDDD

>>12048702
D&D name generator table

>>12048702
We're already scraping the barrel of classical mythology so >>12048706

>>12047596
Just build some breeder reactors for your Orion fuel supply, bro

>>12048717
>not using markov chains with a list of every Roman deity to make up more to use

bros why did we waste all the cool mythology on shitty fucking boulders already
we aren't we conserving resources

Just woke up anything cool happen today

>>12048701
dunno but i liked the projection of the fuel being filled over the actual rocket

>>12048738
I got laid for the first time in months.

>>12048738
some anon got laid for the first time in months

>>12048702
Unironicallly arabic names. Most stars are arab and it's pretty nice. Some other languages can be neat.

>>12048701
you've never seen a planetarium laser show?

>>12048745
Same. The undergrad guys are back and Tinder isn't an ghost town.

>>12048738
A guy had sex

>>12048190
>>12048657
its the idea behind Sea Dragon too

>>12048738
We've heard rumors about someone having sex, but we're not sure until it's confirmed.

mHHAHAMASDFMMSDFMDFSMDFmmmmhhhhmmmmmmmhhhhhhh

>>12048738
SEX

>>12048775

>>12048616
lol

>Starship is orbital before SLS
What happens after that?

>>12048870
Lots and lots of shills

>>12048862
Is that supposed to be thunderf00t?

>>12048870
BOINGAY fills for bankruptcy

>>12048870
The end of G*vernment spaceflight, and the tyranny of gravity.

>>12048882
yeah, sorry my gimp skills are terrible

>>12048775
Quit it with this garbage clip already

>>12048870
SLS gets taken out behind the VAB and shot

I have an idea.

Cubesats are the hip new thing. Tiny shithole countries want their own launch capability. A tiny payload can be launched into orbit by a tiny rocket.

Why doesn't SpaceX or some other company build a tiny little TSTO reusable to sell to customers that want their own launch capability and can't go through Starship for whatever reason and can't afford to operate a big system?

>>12048870
The first (and last) SLS is used to yeet Shelby into the Sun, hopefully

>>12048601
>>12048616
>>12048672
>>12048683
Yes.

>>12048921
lol itar

>>12048921
Kek

>>12048921
Because that's the same as selling ICBMs

>>12048775
I know this animation gets so much wrong but I unironically get shudders whenever I see the engine plume clear the water.

reusable icbms when?

>>12048928
based

>>12048921
t. Kim Jong-un

>>12048921
>Tiny shithole countries want their own launch capability

>>12048862
Thunder foot

>>12047969
nice renders, massive scam. also stopped being kino as soon as they renamed the von braun station.

>>12048981
Fucking Based
Sometimes he's accurate, sometimes he's just a shit pessimist.

>>12048416
earth

>>12048921
That is rocket labs with electron. I think you can schedule launchs in a weeks notice.

>>12048981
>>12048882
>>12048862

"Thunder - If Never Done It Before We Can't Do It - F00T"

I hate this guy, even if he made sense about Hyperloop. He is just outright pessimistic and skeptic, like a guy that wouldn't move a rock to change the world and would complain everytime someone tried to do it.

>>12049033
If Elon told this faggot about reusable rockets he would go on and on about rockets being impossible to reuse and how nobody did that before and how rockets are too expensive and we should just:

Sit down

and

Stagnate. Forever.

That's your typical pessismist faggot.

>>12048909
>>12048947
Technically it doesn't get anything wrong because it's fictional alt-history.

Haze Gray's video is more true to the real thing though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG3Z0O9Xzo

>>12048932
This. Also MTCR if you somehow manage to be in compliance with ITAR.

>>12049060
in no reality does a working engine's exhaust plume look like that.

>>12049033
he's fucking based, absolute museum quality

So 3 things happening friday(28th) from Elon's companies.

1) F9 launch SAOCOM
2) Starship SN6 hop
3) Neuralink update

>>12049060
Exhaust interaction with the nozzle is nonsense, it's like the FX people have never seen a rocket. Also the single-bell envisioning of Sea Dragon is idiotic.

>>12049033
>he made sense about Hyperloop

Hyperloop is a capital-intensive megaproject, those are reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard to get off the ground in the USA. India and the Arab nations seem much more capable of pulling it off without it being a clusterfuck of environmentalist delays and red tape. I mean look at the sad surreal saga of the fairly conservative california high-speed rail project-just a snowballing nightmare of cost overruns and delays that crippled it.

I know I know
>shitting streets
>sharia
But these countries have pulled off nuclear power plants and other major projects before.

It won't be easy, but a Hyperloop is 100% possible to build and use.

>>12049103
>Arab nations seem much more capable of pulling it off without it being a clusterfuck of environmentalist
Nooooo think of the sanddd!!!!!!!

>>12049108
Lol fuckin sand
Call me a libtard but I think the Middle East is 100% capable of achieving parity with the west

Bros
what if NASA

>>12049108
lol

It's such a bad idea to latch on to a potential difficulty and declare it impossible to overcome. Now if someone actually does build a Hyperloop no one can ever fully take Phil seriously again when he says something can't be done.

I'm not even saying a hyperloop will ever definitely be built, but I would not risk my reputation making a such a strong,repetitive prediction about its inevitable failure. 15 years ago, electric cars were total jokes-slow, short ranged, clunky, very hard to find places to charge them, very expensive. The list of obstacles in from of making them mainstream looked like they would not be overcome for a very long time. Tech sneaks up on you and advances in leaps sometimes. If you're not Jules Verne, maybe keep your crystal-ball scrying to yourself.

>>12049115
touched

>>12049130
a child

>>12049068
Shit Thunderf00t said:

1. We will never have orbital structures
2. The money that government space agencies spent on space is the correct amount of money and nobody can decrease that
3. Space is way too hard therefore it should be abandoned completly.

"The sheer impraticality of geting into space is why we never developed a decent cheap way of getting into space." - ThunderF00t

Yet this faggot completly ignores the fact that before recent years of commercial space angencies, space was only done by the GOVERNMENT, and the government is horrible at money.

No government has ever improved on costs and no government ever will.

Therefore ThunderF00t is a major faggot.

ThunderF00t is to space exploration and this general what the Unabomber is to technology and science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgtLjj4Ka08

>>12049072
then a starlink launch on saturday

>>12049141
based retard

>>12049146
Sunday, unless maybe its saturday for europoors?

>>12049141
>ThunderF00t is to space exploration and this general what the Unabomber is to technology and science.
Ted has a Phd in complex analysis, that retard has an youtube channel.

>>12049163
Oh nvm, looks like they moved the Starlink launch date up a date. So we get back to back F9 launches.

>>12049164
I'm >>12049126 and to be fair, Thunderf00t has a phd in chemistry and is an actual published scholar, including a paper he had a leading role in writing being on the front page of Science https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6495/1086

He just has a nasty habit of jumping over to talk about aerospace shit he knows very little about.

Do you think we'll ever see something like this?

F9 is getting boring. I want to see starship.

>>12049195
see you in 3 years

>>12049194
no, why the fuck would you do that

>>12049205
How fucking cool would it be though to have a spaceplane land on a carrier

>>12049207
if you're in space you can land anywhere in the fucking world
why the fuck would you want to land a spaceplane on a carrier somewhere instead of back home on american soil

>>12048862
It just shows how amazing the human brain is that I instantly recognized that as tf. It's like the abstract merchant shit

>>12049209
I dunno, cool idea though, there's never been a spaceplane landing on a carrier yet

Spinlaunch seems like inspired madness to me.

Normally people who are into aerospace dismiss the benefits of launching from up high on a mountain, but i'm pretty sure for spinlaunch the benefits are greatly magnified.

To that end,I did some digging and found this-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimborazo

It's riiiight on the equator AND it's very high. A spinlauncher on top of this would work amazingly well. How can we make it happen?

>>12049219
Height is not the problem, velocity is.

what the FUCK happened here

>>12049232
The increased elevation means less friction from air, so you can have a higher initial velocity than at lower elevations,which means your rocket needs less fuel to get itself in oribt,and THAT then means you get to take more cargo.

>>12049233
Death Star Mk. III

>>12049233
your mom sat on it

>>12049194

>>12049141
The Unabomber was right tho read his manifesto

>>12049209
>why the fuck would you want to land a spaceplane on a carrier somewhere instead of back home on american soil
To win a bet.

>>12049233
The core cooled and contracted. The poles cooled first and the crust/mantle collapsed around them, leaving an equatorial mountain ridge

>>12049275
Didnt we tell you to fuck off a few threads ago?

F U C K U R F

>>12049275
Anyway, what I meant is that Thunderf00t opinions are the antithesis of space exploration as a whole.

>>12049292
What is URF?

>>12047698
SpaceX is really really good at making engines that work, can be relit, and don't explode that is to their engineers, and modern CAD that wasn't available back in the 60s

>>12049294
An area to which you are no longer welcome.

ahhhh im gonna impactor prooooooooobe

>>12048651
RESULTS
OVER
RHETORIC

>>12049233
Iapetus is one of the best-looking moons.

>>12049288
No actually we just had a casual discussion while you seethed

>>12049293
Of course; he literally said we shouldn’t pursue it

>>12049269
That's my next idea actually

>>12049192
>>12049141
Thunderf00t has disdain for (normie) hype, which is one contributing factor for how elon musk ended up in his crosshairs. His main shtick and his "claim to fame" is his debunking/critique videos, which for the most part, incorporate some decent science/calculations/arguments to back them up. It was fine for "softer targets" like creationism, feminism, scammy crowdfunders etc. and had even led to him doing some decent science (columbic explosion) to satisfy his ego. Tf's 'BUSTED!'-type videos have served him quite well for all these years, but as they say, "if you only have a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail."
So while Elon is actively creating the future (by deviating from established methodologies), tf draws from the past: established science, technology, methodology, philosophies etc. Put another way, spacex with their 'radically' different approaches to space is 'paving the way to the future'. This is territory that tf's mind just can't set 'f00t' in, due in part to his (incompatible, even opposed) world view/philosophies. It may take quite a while for him to accept this flaw in his perception and this is, in my opinion, why he's always so butthurt and spergs out over elon's projects. thanks for coming to my ted talk.

>KSP manages to take down browser and discord with it every time it crashes
this is some next level coding here

I'm going to fuck blue origin in the ass

>>12049141
>>1. We will never have orbital structures

lolololo

>>12049072
Tesla’s stock will also be splitting on Friday

>>12049337
>even KSP doesn't like discord

>>12049343
He discounts the International Space Station as one, since he says it's only for the use of 6 selected people at a time.

Also, he uses the ISS alot in his videos as an excuse TO NOT explore space, he is always beating this dead horse saying that ISS is the most expensive thing ever (Which it is, but it was made by governments and it's 100% expected for governments to waste money away) and says that the idea of making commercial space stations is pathetic and unfeasible, based on past government made technologies.

This guy is a fraud.

>>12049033
Yeah people like that are poison and should be in camps imo I hate the skeptics.

>>12049349
honestly I can't even decide which of the two has the worse coding

>>12049361
Lmao comparing government to civilian expenditure is retarded

>look at total price of F-35

Well that's it then, we should stop making jets for the civilian market, they will never be cheap to develop and purchase

>>12049335
I'm fine with people being skeptics, I see them as a natural part of life, they do help keep absurd things in line.

But I have a problem with people like him on a political role, setting the rules and keeping us down. Maybe not even him, but one of his followers.

>>12049371
Honestly, by definition, I think I hate skeptics. Being skeptical means "not easily convinced", which I think is a useless personality trait. Sure, being too easily convinced is bad too, but usually the skeptical mindset just seems to lead to close mindedness. I much prefer someone who is willing to take up even the craziest ideas, as opposed to someone who just sits around and dismisses everything and anything.

>>12049282
>not hold my beer

>>12047719

That's the SLS equivalent of Starhopper.

>>12049364
KSP is janky. Discord is actively malicious.

>>12049390
>>12049371
>>12049362
>>12049361
How can you be on the science board and not be a skeptic? Are you sure you are not thinking of cynics?

>>12049412
I think they're referring to people who don't believe anything that's new that isn't laid out step by step for them. For example: *new technology exists* "Must be fake and hyped up"

>>12049412
I think they're confusing the two. Pretty easy given that some cynics call themselves skeptics to look good.

>>12049419
Exactly this

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1298436601861808129?s=20

Dang gonna have to get a signed vulcan. NSSL and dreamchaser means it isn't going out of style anytime soon.

>>12049412
You dont have to be a skeptic to be a scientist. I consider myself an optimist. A cynic is just a worse off skeptic.

So SN6 is also going to do a 150m hop? Why won't they go higher? What's different/new with this version?

>>12049419
This nigga knows

>>12049433
3 engines instead of 1 I think

>>12049427
Skepticism is at the core of science. You have to always try to prove things false and only after failing you start to think they are true.
You are thinking of naysaying and cynism.

>>12049426
vulcan aces fucking when

>>12049433
Only real difference is probably the raptor engine, SN8 should be the one with 3 raptors and the flaps.

>>12049437
only one too I think. SN8 is 3

>>12049444
Trying to prove something wrong is not skepticism. In the effort to prove something wrong, you're ultimately trying to find the truth. That is optimism, the philosophy of "yes we can figure this out." Optimism is the core of science, because it's about finding the answer to a question, not trying to prove something false.

>>12049033
Thunderf00t is just too autistic to realize hyperloop is an investment scheme to pull in funds to develop a maglev that's designed to work in a vacuum/near vacuum,
Elon is scamming retarded 3rd world shitholes into making tech that will be used on mars and the moon, and will never receive said tech, He realizes it's impossible to practically design on earth, but too stupid to realize Elon wants to move to mars in a decade or two
You can't arrest a person for investment fraud who isn't on earth lel

>>12049138
with Big Jim's

>>12049487
PP

>>12049477
>the future of the Indian and Saudi space programs will be nothing but attempts to launch space drones to kill Elon in his Mars mansion

I want this timeline

>>12048630
except your balls would freeze off instantly

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>>12049411
how so? genuinely interested

>>12049520
wtf did I just read?

>>12049529
Discord is spyware that scans your PC for running processes, snoops on your network connections, and asserts copyright over everything you post on it. Do not use it for anything of commercial or personal value.

>>12049530
That's code for
"I have no idea what this is, please accept me"

>>12049530
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>>12049530
i'm pretty sure it's just the weld marks and studs on the barrel section, but in text

>>12049530
kek

>>12049530
Oh shit nigger five star post.

>>12049520
>>12049530
kek

Remember to lift weights, exercise, and eat healthy

>>12049589
I've just had eggplant lasagna so i'm eating healthy alright

>>12049345
I hope Tesla stock hits $2103.45 right before the 1 to 5 split happens.

lets land on the moon bros

>>12049646
*notices bulge*

>>12049652
oWo

I would play the shit out of KSP if it was a little bit more managerial, like building a base on the moon etc.

>>12049656
If KSP2 turns out like it's been described, it will be for you. You'll still probably have to build a ton of rockets and rovers and shit, but there will be resource utilization, base building, and logistical chains. Supposedly anyways.

>>12049665
Will they even meet their 2020 release deadline?

>>12049667
At this point I have exactly zero faith in anything during this pandemic of retardation. Everybody is going to deliberately act like a brainlet at least until November passes.

>>12049665
Hopefully there would be a way to automate resource transfer between bases so you don't have to manually launch and fly every spacecraft in your logistics train.

>>12049652
>>12049646
*unzips bulge*
*red rocket emerges from sheath*
OwO

>>12049671
I think they already mentioned that once you've done it once you can just tell the computer to keep it going.

>>12048706
>planet vegeta
Canon.

>>12049680
ahhh im injeeecctting

>>12049704
I probably should have turned down the force on the decoupler for the impactor probe a bit
oh well, I still have a bit of hydrolox left to fix the recoil before I have to start burning the MMH

>In 1655, Christiaan Huygens became the first person to suggest that Saturn was surrounded by a ring. Using a 50× power refracting telescope that he designed himself, far superior to those available to Galileo, Huygens observed Saturn and in 1656, like Galileo, had published an anagram saying "aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu". Upon confirming his observations, three years later he revealed it to mean "Annuto cingitur, tenui, plano, nusquam coherente, ad eclipticam inclinato"; that is, "It [Saturn] is surrounded by a thin, flat, ring, nowhere touching, inclined to the ecliptic".
>aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu

>>12049726
AEEEIIIOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

>>12049726
>Aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu

This is what Cassini-Huygens should have been named

Serious question, are there autistic kids who obsess over rockets the same way one would obsess over trains? My friend’s brother is autistic and can tell you the make, manufacturer, year, etc. of trains that drive by us.

>>12049740
yeah thats /sfg/

>1580m/s left after capture burn
>1530m/s orbital speed
uhhh this might be a slightly bumpy landing bros

>>12049726
>>12049730
>Saturnbase Alpha
>now with 18th century period accurate TTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os0zmiMfRjM

>>12049740
You are among us.

>>12047724
Cody'slab once accidentally set a thick gauge stainless steel wire on fire in a pure oxygen atmosphere at *less* than the ambient atmospheric pressure where he lives.

>sitting down with your friend under the starhopper after a hard day of building spaceships
bros....

>>12049669
>brainlet
New favorite word

>>12047783
Literally would not be a problem if they set up a desalination plant that removed water from the lake to evaporate in pans nearby. The root problem is that the lake is sitting in a dry desert with no outflow to sea. An 'outflow' like I mentioned would remove salt faster than it could build up, in fact we could turn the entire lake fresh water again.

>>12049772
That's pretty metal.
(I'll go kill myself, you're welcome)

The red lights give a Mars ambiance

>>12047844
based

>>12049753
okay so slightly rough landing, we came in a little hot at 302.5m/s and did suffer a few minor equipment malfunctions
however, we have successfully achieved the first touchdown of a purpose-built lander at a designated location on the moon so I think it's fair to call this mission a success

>>12049760
>aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu
>Pope Urban
>Look out here comes a Cretan earthquake ebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr
>Heretic!

>>12049791
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