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Would a nuclear power plant built underground be significantly safer if exploded?

>> No.12016890

>>12016883

i prefer the safest kind of nuclear power, the one harnessing it as solar power here on earth

:)

>> No.12016891

not for the people inside, surrounding agriculture, herbivores, and people a couple hundred years from now.

>> No.12016896

Only if the weight of soil above significantly increases containment.

Though it makes clean up more difficult by several factors.

>> No.12016950
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>>12016883
Nuclear power plants are pointless when we have 100% clean and 100% safe FUSION (non-nuclear) available today. For more info see:

https://aureon.ca/science-of-safire
https://aureon.ca/methodology
https://aureon.ca/experiment-results
https://aureon.ca/history
https://aureon.ca/reactor
https://aureon.ca/theory
https://aureon.ca/movies
https://player.vimeo.com/video/395620602
https://safireproject.com/science/ewExternalFiles/SAFIRE-Phase-Three.pdf

Fusion is very easy to achieve when you do it the way Nature does it.

The Sun produces nuclear fusion. Though contrary to what the Standard Model claims, the fusion doesn't occur in its core, nor does fusion power the Sun – in reality, fusion is merely an effect; an effect which occurs in the plasma at the outer surface of the Sun.

And thus, copying how the Sun operates, fusion occurs within the SAFIRE plasma reactor. Naturally and effortlessly, as the reactor simply does what Nature does – it doesn't attempt to force fusion through an unnatural process.

By the way, the SAFIRE experiment originally set out to test whether the Electric Sun model was correct or not, and it passed all (100%) of the tests and all (100%) of the predictions of the model flawlessly. Let that sink in. SAFIRE has over the last few years 100% confirmed the Electric Sun model experimentally in the laboratory – in stark contrast to the Standard Model of the Sun which still after a hundred years nobody has been able to build a functioning real-world model of, and which remains to this day unproven and fails to elegantly and properly explain the observed behavior and phenomena of the Sun, and continues to leave mainstream scientists surprised and scratching their heads in confusion and wonderment.

Some additional very helpful info on SAFIRE and how fusion actually works in nature:

https://youtu.be/0J6HDQLicWI
https://youtu.be/L69ttX3kviw
https://youtu.be/h49AbVfI7KU
https://youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject/search?query=safire

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>>12016950
Part of what SAFIRE has accomplished in their plasma reactor is the isotopic transmutation of elements using free protons and the energy available in the plasma double layers. SAFIRE adds trace amounts of heavier elements which become ionized rapidly when exposed to all those free protons. As they make their way into the plasma double layers, those heavier elements are caught in the turbulence between layers. Turbulent plasma amplifies the magnetic fields and in those crushing fields transmutation takes place.

So SAFIRE isn't creating fusion by fusing Deuterium and Tritium into Helium. They are instead using the free protons and the plasma double layers to induce transmutation which liberates a massive amount of heat in the process.

>> No.12016955

>>12016950
To learn more about the Electric Sun model (not just the Sun, all stars operate the same way), see: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UdAwCXUCvl23_5DOjGMPq7d

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>>12016950
>>12016953

>Great interview with SAFIRE:
https://youtu.be/h49AbVfI7KU

>Another, longer interview:
https://youtu.be/Vde4GMJY1Tg

https://aureon.ca/history
The History of SAFIRE:

>2011
• Montgomery Childs does statistical analysis of the Hertzsprung / Russell diagram of all the mapped stars in our galaxy.

>2012
• Incredibly stable stellar atmospheres suggest simple process: ”Charged plasma affecting matter of a different electrical potential."
• Proposal is made to test the Electric Sun model.
• Presentation is given at the 2012 Electric Universe Conference in Los Vegas Nevada.
• Presentation is given at the 2012 NPA conference in Albuquerque NM.

>2013
• Proposal is made to build a laboratory experiment to test the Electric Sun.
• Presentation is made at the 2013 EU conference in Albuquerque NM.
• SAFIRE Project is officially launched.
• Presentation of the SAFIRE model is given at the NPA conference at the University of Maryland.

>2014
• Proof-of-concept Bell Jar experiment constructed.
• Tests reveal self-organizing plasma double layers.
• Data is collected from the experiment to be used to design and engineer a larger reactor.
• It is determined that the shape of the cathode does not play a significant role in the formation of plasma double layers.
• Optical spectroscopy indicates new elements on the anode.
• Anode tufts are observed.
• High energy trapping of electrons, ion and molecules is observed.
• Phase II is kicked off – to start the design and engineering of the large reactor.
• Preliminary CFD and Systems analysis and modelling are completed.
• A paper is drafted on plasma striations written by Dr. Lowell Morgan and Montgomery Childs.

>2015
• Design and engineering is completed.
• Paper is peer reviewed and published.
• Presentation is given at the 2015 EU conference in Phoenix AZ.

>2016
• Phase II is built and tested, with preliminary results shown within a 3-month window.
• Presentation is given at the 2016 EU conference in Phoenix AZ.

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>>12016960

>2017
• Studies are done on plasma double layer formation.
• It is discovered that certain gas species work as a catalyst in the formation and stabilization of plasma double layers.
• There are the first indications of transmutation and high energy.
• SEM/EDAX analysis show new elements - transmutation is suspected.
• Observation are made of high energy discharges, analogous to the Sun’s.
• A high voltage drop only 0.02mm to 0 confirmed: high voltage drop prediction was made by Ralph Juergens, Donald Scott confirmed.
• Presentation is given at the 2017 EU conference in Phoenix AZ.

>2018
• Further research is made into plasma double layers and plasma tufting.
• Conference is held in May 2018 to discuss the next phase of SAFIRE - high energy plasma discharges, transmutation and the interstellar medium.
• Presentation is given at the 2018 EU conference in Bath UK.
• High energy plasma discharge experiments are initiated.
• Quantifying Paschen Law governing plasma discharges reveals that a 3D spherical plasma discharge deviates from the standard linear plasma discharges.
• Analysis and modelling using various gas compositions are ongoing – to predict plasma double layers at the atomic level .
• Dark mode plasma structures are discovered.

>2019
• Ongoing experiments test thermal limits and boundaries of SAFIRE and the anode.
• New gas compositions and anode alloys are introduced.
• Further experiments and tests are made to quantify dark mode plasma.
• It is confirmed that certain catalyzing elements will transmute elements in high energy plasma regimes.
• SEM/EDAX third party lab confirms elemental transmutation.
• Presentation is given at 2019 Electric Universe United Kingdom

You can learn more about Plasma by reading the following scientific articles (all based on peer-reviewed and academic sources):

https://plasma-universe.com/
https://plasma-universe.com/articles/
https://plasma-universe.com/99-999-plasma/
https://plasma-universe.com/double-layer/

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>>12016955
BTW, regarding stars -- Birkeland currents are crucial to how stars are born and how they operate.

See: https://www.plasma-universe.com/birkeland-current/

And read the following:
http://www.ptep-online.com/2015/PP-41-13.PDF
http://www.ptep-online.com/2018/PP-53-01.PDF
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOAAJ/TOAAJ-4-191.pdf

Birkeland currents playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwOAYhBuU3UeKWHRrCw4i-KviQnAhQhBM

>> No.12017084

>>12016950
Very interesting.

>> No.12017207

>>12016883
The main danger of a nuclear meltdown are the radioactive materials that get expelled into the atmosphere. However, the chances of a nuclear power plant that wasn't built and ran by incompetent communists going critical are extremely low. But yes, if you build it 100m or so below ground and don't have those giant exhaust pipes, it would be safer. Expensive, inconvenient, but safer.

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>>12016890
>safest

>> No.12017675

>>12016883
it would imo be far easier to downscale nuclear power and build it in the ocean. Even if lets same someone torpedoes it in some worst case catastrophe, nuclear waste exposed to the ocean is FAR less problematic then in the air. Yes it will fuck up some local fish, Yes people probably shouldn't swim there any more, but the radiation will be contained pretty well, and the water will cool things pretty effectively.

Imagine closed system self sufficient nuclear power plants the size of bulk freight containers out in the ocean, or suspended in lakes. We could even make it so they have almost no moving parts.

If anything that would appear the future imo.

>> No.12017682

>>12016950
>Fusion is very easy to achieve when you do it the way Nature does it.

yea, you just need a solar mass of stuff for the pressure, problem is there is not enough real estate on the earth for that.

Even with electric sun theory, you would need a fuckton of pressure and energy in that model to get anything out, not saying its never going to happen, but its not going to be economically viable anytime soon.

Hope im wrong though, would solve a lot of shit.

>> No.12019277

>>12017662
>Canada