/sci/ - Science & Math

Wonderful.

>>12015797
Maybe, but not likely for a very long time: You induce cumulative pleiotropic mutations for each intended mutation to the genome, and often these mutations are not beneficial, but instead detrimental. In other words, to have such extreme control over the genome, without inducing such catastrophic cumulative pleiotropic mutations you also need to improve your predictive powers. So, until we have a computer revolution, we wont have a genetic revolution.
Incidentally, I'm so fucking sick of you IFLS retards who watch a Kurzgesagt video and suddenly consider themselves some visionary expert. Fuck off.

>make you
silly anon, the only hope we ever have of it influencing genetics is in embryos. once you're born you're screwed

>>12015827
Get some vision. Time for a computer revolution.

>>12015797
I am already all of that.
Well, save the big dick.

>>12015849
Go back to YouTube, you fucking smoothbrain.

>>12015865
I’ve noticed people seem to hinder progress because it makes them feel like they look smart.

For every great invention there are the nay sayers.
For all issues there are the complaints not solutions.

I’m here to learn and make the world better. What are you here for?
Don’t answer.

>>12015898
I've explained to you the limitations, it isn't just naysaying, you idiot.

>>12015898
>>12015969
Also, being pragmatic is important, so that you know in which order you must address the issues. Otherwise, you're going to be barking up the wrong tree and wasting time.

>>12015898
>I'm on 4chan to make the world better
Bet you 20$ you won't even make up for the energy it took to grow you.

>>12015969
>>12015980
What are you two so insecure about to feel the need to attack that dude?

>>12016002
I've just explained why, for goodness' sake. Before it is possible it'll require a REVOLUTION in both computer science and genetic engineering, that's two whole fields, before it is even feasible. OP is focusing on the wrong things, it is nothing more than a distracting pleasant pipe dream. You don't change the world by dreaming, you change the world by doing. So, if you're dreaming about doing the wrong thing, in the wrong way... guess what? You aren't being helpful, nor insightful, at all.

>>12016010
Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein

>>12016002
he would rather not have immortality if the cost is being open minded.

Shit argument

>>12016040
First of all, quotes are not a replacement for reasoning.
Second of all, "more important" is meaningless statement, it does not act to qualify or clarify anything, it is figurative.
Third of all, "more important than" is not the same thing as: 'the important thing', otherwise we would be able to solve problems with imagination alone, without reason, without prior knowledge, but we cannot.
Lastly, stop trying to argue with soundbites and faux-sophistic rhetoric, it's sad.

>>12016050
>... immorality...
Heat death, or Big Crunch, would like to know your location. Immortality is a nonsense word, the word you're looking for bio-indefinite mortality, and I'm all for that, but genetic engineering is not the solution to that issue, because it involves so many processes. Instead, the likely solution will involve biogerontological nanomedicine making use of things like biophysics.
By the way, there is a point at which you are so open-minded, that nothing stays within it and you become a vacuous airhead.

>>12016066
>*... is a meaningless...
>*... for is...

>>12015797
CRISPR will produce humans smart enough to develop technology capable of instantly ending humanity, but not wise enough to realize they shouldn't develop those things.
It's truly mind boggling that so-called intelligence experts are so naively unaware of the negative aspects of raising human intelligence.

>>12016083
Enlighten us anon.

>>12016040
>>12016050
>>12016066
An afterthought:
Let's examine this statement: "Air is more important than water." What exactly does this statement mean using imagination and figurative speech alone? Nothing, it's nonsense.
However, if you add in context in the form of knowledge, and that knowledge in the form of a qualifying statement, you give that figure of speech a meaning: "Air is more important than water, because there are anaerobic organisms that still require water."
So clearly, neither figures of speech, nor imagination are that useful without context to ground them. I suggest you learn this general maxim: "Moderation is key."

>>12016040
>>12016050
>>12016066
An afterthought:
Let's examine this statement: "Water is more important than air." What exactly does this statement mean using imagination and figurative speech alone? Nothing, it's nonsense.
However, if you add in context in the form of knowledge, and that knowledge in the form of a qualifying statement, you give that figure of speech a meaning: "Water is more important than air, because there are anaerobic organisms that still require water."
So clearly, neither figures of speech, nor imagination are that useful without context to ground them. I suggest you learn this general maxim: "Moderation is key."

Correction: I noticed I've muddled up the objects.

>>12016040
>>12016050
>>12016066
An afterthought:
Let's examine this statement: "Water is more important than air." What exactly does this statement mean using imagination and figurative speech alone? Nothing, it's nonsense.
However, if you add in context in the form of knowledge, and that knowledge in the form of a qualifying statement, you give that figure of speech a meaning: "Water is more important than air, because there are anaerobic organisms that still require water."
So clearly, neither figures of speech, nor imagination are that useful without context to ground them. I suggest you learn this general maxim: "Moderation is key."

Correction: I noticed I'd muddled up the objects; nor was I happy with the tense that had been used in the correction.

>>12016040
>>12016050
>>12016066
An afterthought:
Let's examine this statement: "Water is more important than air." What exactly does this statement mean using imagination and figurative speech alone? Nothing, it's nonsense.
However, if you add in context in the form of knowledge, and that knowledge in the form of a qualifying statement, you give that figure of speech a meaning: "Water is more important than air, because there are anaerobic organisms that still require water."
So clearly, neither figures of speech, nor imagination are that useful without context to ground them. I suggest you learn this general maxim: "Moderation is key."

Correction: I noticed I'd muddled up the objects and wasn't happy with the tense that had been used in the correction.

>>12016100
humans are more clever than they are wise.
we haven't prevented the development of world-ending nuclear weapons, and we won't prevent the development of other humanity-ending technologies like AI or genetically modified "humans".
our economic and military systems are not robust.
the reason we're still alive today is because of some random russian officer.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/oct/27/vasili-arkhipov-soviet-submarine-captain-who-averted-nuclear-war-awarded-future-of-life-prize

>>12016144
If I recall correctly, we would have likely survived nuclear war, it would however mean the end of civilization. What I'm saying is, the reason that humans are alive is because of our tenacity and intelligence, instead of our lack of wisdom alone.

>>12016100
Not the anon you are replying to but consider this. How much of your rxistance is dealing with emotions as opposed to logic?

Without dopamine you feel literally dead. Dopamine looks chemically extremely similar to adrenaline/noradrenaline.

You are strapped up into a biological rollercoaster cart

>>12016144
>>12016154
>... instead of our lack of wisdom alone.
I should probably add: By that I mean, both that we lack wisdom, and that through our lack of wisdom, we rely upon "luck" or "chance". As such, that random Soviet officer was chance, although, we would have survived without him, but civilization wouldn't.
I hope that clears that up.

>>12015898
Its not enough to be smart. You can build the quantum atomic bomb and the cia/military will use your intelligence/creativity and turn it into hell on earth.

Science is not excluded from our social problems. Its best to invent nothing atm but learn everything

>>12016154
>>12016175
we are alive despite our intelligence.
and the further we advance technologically, the smaller the chance any of us will survive when things go sideways.

>>12016253
You're thinking too linearly, what you need to realize is that not all technology is detrimental. Not only has technology allowed us to inhabit previously uninhabitable, or habitable with difficulty, environments, it has also extended our health and lifespan by more than double.

>>12016272
I'm well aware that plenty of technology is beneficial. But none of that matters if we can create super powerful weapons outside of our control (or better: intent).

>>12015797

i hope so, but yea, probably not for a long while.

>>12015830

not true. already performing changes on adults, although sloppy changes. See attempts to cure sickle cell

>>12015898

to build Utopia,

>>12016142
>>12016066
you waste your energy typing over these fools.

>>12017062
Who are you talking to?