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Not a /pol/tard. Is there any actual evidence of significant genetic differences between blacks, whites and asians? Would it be possible to tell which race someone belongs to just by looking at their genome?

>> No.12012242
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>>12012191
>Not a /pol/tard. Is there any actual evidence of significant genetic differences between blacks, whites and asians?
Yes. Pic related, our maximum FST goes over 0,3. For reference, different but related species and different subspecies are in the range of 0,15 to 0,25. Wolves and coyotes are at 0,15.
>Would it be possible to tell which race someone belongs to just by looking at their genome?
Yes, accurately. That's the business of 23andme and others.

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its not significant, but whites have generaly higher lactose tolerance percentage across population then blacks/asians

>> No.12012805

>>12012242
Pretty interesting. That's not a small difference. I wish this topic wasn't such a taboo.

>> No.12012808

>>12012242
What is the red spot?

>> No.12012926

>>12012191
What's the difference between a European, Arab, Indian, Persian, Berber, and Turk? They're all Caucasian but what's the difference between them.

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>>12012191
If there is no Neanderthal admixture present it's possible to conclude it's a sub-Saharan African.
High Denisova admixture and we're in south-east Asia/Australia.

Genetics that have an impact on statistics would be stuff like R2 MAO-A, which is not clearly race-specific but is imply less and more common, if the knowledge was applied to abortion-programs like planned parenthood we'd be able to knock Caucasian and African homicide rates down to NE-Asian levels in one or two generations, even in spite of bad parenting that would create antisocial behavior in an affected individual.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A

>> No.12013185

>>12012191
Aryans are the only fully human species

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>>12013185
Pure "Aryans" in a racist sense don't exist, the Nazi ideal is mistranslated:
German "Rasse" = Breed (like dog-breed)
English "race" = German "Volk"

The "Die arische Herrenrasse" = "the Aryan master-breed" does not refer to an existing race but a non-existing breed intended to be created using breeding stock of (diluted) "aryan" races and honorary aryans (e.g. Japanese).

The opposing fraction that won "Father of the EU" Coudenhove-Kalergi proposed a different mix for a smaller group creating a ruling master/politician-breed:
Jews = purest city-archetype and royalty = purest rural archetype.

While the Nazi breeding plan was likely to affect the whole population Kalegi did not care much about the mix of the average population and predicted Europeans to end up darker "Similar in appearance to the old Egyptians." This was however not a planned/forced plan (at-least not based on the books he wrote that I read) and only a prediction of what is likely to happen.
... which is also taking into account proposals like the atlantropa-project.

>> No.12013836

>>12012242
The Chinese and Japanese are twice as distant as the English and Berbers?

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>>12013158
>If there is no Neanderthal admixture present it's possible to conclude it's a sub-Saharan African
They found Neanderthal admixture in Sub Saharan Africans this year.
https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/01/30/new-study-identifies-neanderthal-ancestry-african-populations-and-describes-its

They also found Homo Erectus admixture in Sub Saharan Africans, this year.

>> No.12013875

Chimpanzees have around 4 subspecies, and similar genetic diversity between them.

Humans have subspecies, it's just politically incorrect to say so.

Homo erectus, neanderthals, denisovas.. etc they were all homo sapiens, justt subspecies due to divergence. Our ancestor was the "survivor" of the species that then diverged into more subspecies.

>> No.12013904

>>12012926
A mulittude of different mutations?

They are probably a range of -0.01-0.1 similarity between each other. The lower the distance the more related you are, that's why they cluster closer together.

Indians are geneitcally a hybrid between Caucasians and Australasians. Clearly they have an insane amount of ethnic groups, but this is generally what they are.

Look at the Dravidians and then the Brahmin. The Brahmin will be closer to Europeans than the Dravidain would be.

>> No.12013918

>>12013841
How much of that is due to the R1B and Arabization? Didn't we already know about this?

>> No.12013942

>>12012191
>Not a /pol/tard. Is there any actual evidence of significant genetic differences between blacks, whites and asians?
No hence why most scientists reject the race concept
>Would it be possible to tell which race someone belongs to just by looking at their genome?
Yes but you'd have to look really closely.

>> No.12013969

>>12012191
>Not a /pol/tard
Sure you aren't

>> No.12013980

>>12012808
On the map ? Australia. Aboriginals and Papus from new guinea are very distant from all other group's and especially the African ones and this is shown by a very distinct color.
>>12013836
The South Chinese. Apparently yes.
In
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2675054
They tested Han Chinese from Beijing and Japanese from Tokyo and they got 0.007.

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To anyone out here that still cares about the quality of the posts on this board, remember to apply the I.H.R technique on these threads:
>identify /pol/ threads
>hide /pol/ threads
>report /pol/ threads

For the /sci/ oldfags:
Identifying these bait threads is pretty easy, with just reading the title and the content you can rapidly infer what actual discussion do they want to have and what narrative do they want to push. Do not waste time on arguing, either hide and report or shitpost it into oblivion. We must stop playing naïve; it is not "IQ thread", it is "we want to shit on niggers"; it is not "Climate change", it is "I want to speak pseudoscience". It is obviously common that these threads will relate to some political discussion (mainly those related to sex and race). Again, we are not /pol/ #2, this board should be math and science discussion, not whether or not you think masks are useful based on your dogma. Recognizing these threads and understanding that they are not science is the first step into solving this problem.

For the /pol/acks:
>inb4 boogeyman
You will answer that no matter how many times someone points that out; you will always say it in order to deflect obvious truth: that the post was done without the intention to discuss scientific inquiry and that it aims to uphold racism. Being here, it is not our duty to be against racism, but it is also not our duty to support it, much less dedicate 300 daily bait threads per week.
>"you So y for posting this" [insert wojak]
Dismissible.
>Cringe
Dismissible.
>libtard/leftist/whatever
Dismissible.
>automatic buzzword (rent free, you are not a woman, etc)
Dismissible.

>> No.12014099

>>12013240
The nazis did not plan on having sex with the Japanese you fucking idiot

>> No.12014119

>>12014068
Climate change is pseudoscience though.

>> No.12014174

>>12012926
Pigmentation, bone structure

>> No.12014304

>>12014068
the (mainstream) scientific inquisition has arrived.

>> No.12014343

>>12012191
Well you did just post one good example of one.

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>>12014068
>t.

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>It's another /pol/tard thread

>> No.12014551

>>12014068
I'm OP and I specifically said I'm not from /pol/ since I only occasionally browse the board, am not a tinfoil hat, and don't buy into most of the conspiracy theories you find there. I opened this thread because I'm pretty sure this is one of the only places where this topic can be discussed and possibly where I can also find actual and (I hope) unbiased answers. That's all there is to it, honestly.

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>>12014068
>>12014349
/pol/ boogeyman! RUN! RUUUUUUUUUUN!

>> No.12015041

>>12012191
There are significant differences both phenotypically, genetically, and culturally. Why do you think there is a push for greater diversity in clinical trials for drugs? Why do you think there are numerous mutations causing unique conditions and genetic diseases in some ethnicities?

Perhaps the common racial categories of "black, asian, white, native australian, and hispanic" are not the most accurate groupings. But pseuds will use this caveat to imply that all racial science is bunk.

Well studied racial phenomena off the top of my head:
Reduced sweat glands in asians
Epicanthic fold in eyes of asians with mongolian descent
Greater oxygen capacity in tibetans
Higher susceptibility to high sodium diet in africans
Longer, thinner limbs suited for endurance in east africa
More fast twitch muscle fiber in west africans
More lactose tolerance in europeans
Less aldehyde dehydrogenase in southeast asians (asian glow)
Higher rates of cystic fibrosis among caucasians and ashkenazi jews
FSGS kidney disease more common among blacks
Sickle cell more common among middle eastern and african people
Lowest rates of balding among east asians
Higher MAO-A mutations (implicated in violence and aggression) among certain populations.

Intelligence is related to genetics, which is clear due to numerous twin studies, but it is far more complex to study, so simple genotypes cannot be pinpointed.

>> No.12015786

>>12014099
While often discouraged and not planned it was not prohibited.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany#Han_Chinese_and_Japanese

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>>12012242
>Indians
>293, 280, 261
Damn, I underestimated pajeets all this time.

>> No.12016316

>>12016022
It stings our pride but we have to listen to science.

>> No.12016480

>>12013240
Can someone confirm or debunk this? It does sound like bullshit but I can't really tell.