/sci/ - Science & Math

I thought it is because governments do not attempt such missions anymore.

>>11997246
Because back then a great amount of effort was put into getting man on the moon as soon as possible. Meanwhile, there's so little interest in going beyond low Earth orbit that making a propellant tank would take a decade.

At least that is the case with government agencies. Private space flight is on the rise, and has shown to be more deeply interested and capabile.

>>11997246
>but modern technology can't do it
of course it can you brainlet, but post-cold war governments won't fund it

>>11997246
There’s fucking nothing on the moon there is no reason to waste millions of dollars on going there. Shit thread

>being impossible
>being economically unviable
I don't see a difference either

>>11997246
How heavy was this thing?

>>11997634
The whole thing was 16.4t when fully fueled.

>>11997246
>just act like you're doing something really difficult
>like that
>perfect! nobody will be able to tell this diy project can't even survive 50mph and even less 25k mph

>>11997650
So a falcon heavy can actually launch one?

>>11997691
Yea, though I'm not sure it would fit inside the payload fairing. Also you would need a second launch to put the CSM up there with it.

Of course if you were to make the Apollo LEM today it would be lighter if only due to the use of modern electronics and batteries.

>>11997782
>>11997691

Gotta bring, bare minimum, a moon buggy too, and those run another 500 pounds or so. Otherwise you're just puttering around within a few hundred feet of your landing site and back again, and then people will correctly realize "okay, fine, so what, we did that already."

>>11997661
It could be made out of paper and go 1000mph, it doesn't matter if there's no fucking air.

>>11997845
Bring a Cyber Truck

>>11997782
>>11997845
I've always wondered why they built the ISS, why not build a permanent base on the moon? Doesn't sound too difficult aside from landing which they could have perfected seeing that they can automatically dock most space modules.

>>11997898
No vehicles

>>11997246
Modern tech CAN do it. Stop lying, moon-tard.

>>11997898
No I mean back then, a moon base seems possible and more interesting compared with a rotating space station

>>11997246
Kubrick filmed the Moon Landings.
No man has ever set foot there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmBdiGf16Vk

>>11997845
A buggy would be highly desired but not necessary for the first few missions.
Apollo didn't bring one until Apollo 15. They didn't even really start designing it until after 11.

>>11997898
Low Earth orbit is a lot easier(cheaper) to get to, and you still have the protection of the Earth's magnetic field. Also budget cuts.

>>11997246
Modern tech or modern politics?

>>11997246

>what is ROI

>>11997966
People at NASA basically got cocky after Apollo and thought they were just gonna go on and conquer the solar system, not realizing that after beating the Soviets to the moon there was no longer any political will to do it.

The only part of their grand plan to get funded was the Shuttle, and all that could do was take things to low Earth orbit, so they did the only thing they could do with it which was to make a space station. Manned spaceflight since 1975 has mostly been a waste of time and just an excuse to do something with the equipment they had available rather than having any kind of mission or purpose.

You are confusing technological capability with political will, we could do a manned Mars mission within the decade but we won't because no one wants to pay for it.

>>11997898
>low radiation
>microgravity
>lower cost
The ISS makes perfect sense as a stepping stone, we have learnt a shitload about the long term effects of microgravity. The only real issue with it is it passes though the South Atlantic Anomaly but that is due to Russia wanting to be able to get there from Baikonur.

>>11997268

>Private space flight is on the rise, and has shown to be more deeply interested and capabile.

No it hasn't otherwise we'd have gone back to the moon in 2005 like Boeing promised in 1990.

>>11998749
>Boeing
>private space flight

>>11998749
boeing is the biggest, fattest leech on the taxpayer's wallet in america

>>11997246
imagine being so retarded that think this is a good argument against the moon landing actually happening.
im not sure what id do.

>>11997253
Correct, it's purely political and economic, exactly like the moon landing was.

>>11997246
softlandings of objects on the moon were done by the soviets before the americans and have been done by other nations since and as recently as within the last 5 years

if you're implying the moonlandings are fake then you need to ask your carer to polish your wheel chair you spasticated nonce

>>11997246
There are many things that can be documented to the Nth degree and still not be reproducable without experienced people around to guide you.
This is one of those things.
Also most of the technology used in the lunar missions is completely obsolete and can't be reproduced anymore, they have to integrate modern systems completely from scratch and there's no room for errors.

>>11997898
The ISS is a smaller derivative of the Freedom station project. Freedom was meant to initially look like a larger ISS, but with a focus on modular design centered around an expandable network of trusses. pIt was intened to initially be slightly larger than ISS with the same focus, but to the be expanded and to shift focus as a gateway as projects like constellation came online. Ultimately it was to be an orbiting spaceport from which space craft bound for the moon and Mars were to launch from and return to. That would allow for large reusable long duration craft to be assembled and operated economically. The space shuttle was to have continued into the 2020's ferrying crew in conjunction with the anticipated ESA Hermes shuttle, with Hermes assuming the bulk of the workload until a second generation class or two of American shuttles was launched. All of that was thrown out the window first by Clinton ordering the cancellation of Freedom and the slashing of all other program budgets, and the last nail in the coffin was Obama cancelling Constellation and the space shuttle, demanding that NASA fund the boondoggle known as SLS (Boeing was the largest DNC donor of the defense industry), and demanding all programs be cut back and funds be reallocated to NASA teaching everyone about the scientific wonders of muslim society as well as making sure that muslim nations receive educational outreach and opportunities from NASA.

>>11997246
>modern technology can't do it
How the fuck do you think there are robots exploring all over Mars?

>>11997967
Stop lying, retard.

>>11997246
Would be fun to take photos of earf and the stars with a zoom camera from the moon with today's tech,

>>11997246
This obsession with modern technology, modern technology is shit. The only thing that has advanced massively is computers. Computers are not rockets, and don't go shitting on how weak the Apollo guidance computers where, its not that hard to compute the movement of a single object moving though the vast emptiness of space, its not like you need split second decisions, there is nothing to crash into.

>>11997967
Kubrick was so insistent on realism he actually shot the whole thing on the moon.