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It is known that dopamine and opioid tolerance exist and occurs in drug (ab)use as a result of too much of those chemicals.
It is also known that porn and masturbation release dopamine and natural opioids (essentially the same as doing any drug that releases dopamine or opioids), therefore, excessive porn & masturbation would cause an usually high amount of these chemicals eventually resulting in increased tolerance.
That increased tolerance then leads to the usual dopamine and opioid withdrawal symptoms such as depression and a bunch of other conditions.
Then, why do I hear a lot of people saying masturbation isn't addictive? It doesn't make any sense.
Am I missing something? Is my understanding of how all this works wrong?

>> No.11995646

>>11995641
If it weren’t an addiction then nofap wouldn’t be such a struggle.

Incoming coomers seething at the word “addiction”

>> No.11995656 [DELETED] 

>>11995641
You don't need a mechanistic explanation or a theory, simple experiment and introspection provides the answer. I think masturbation itself is very mildly addictive, but the addition of a pornography component makes it highly addictive. If I jerk off to porn I definitely want to do it again. If it's hentai, you can explore all these concepts and art styles. If it's regular porn, there's plenty of variety as well. There's a definite conditioning component though which differs between the two. Hentai is far more addictive.

>> No.11995670

Masturbate or not, fuck women or not, be a sinner or saint. You will die anyway.

>> No.11995673

It's obviously addictive, just from a theoretical perspective, but it clearly is, from an experiential one. Try and stop masturbating, you will go through withdrawals, it will both physiologically and in a big way, physically affect you. It's incredibly clear that it is an addiction

>> No.11995676 [DELETED] 

>>11995670
Dude, come on.

>> No.11995679

>>11995646
I'm more interested in the direct effect of long term excessive hentai & masturbating on the brain, nofap or not.
Specifically, I'm interested in the link to depression, loss of interest etc, that occur even without going nofap.

>> No.11995683

>>11995641
All things can be addictive. Even physical self harm.

>> No.11995914

>>11995676
Don't reply to shitposters.
Report, hide and hope the mods feel like doing their jobs today.

>> No.11995922

>>11995641
Yes, it's an addiction.

>> No.11995926

>>11995641
I am a food addict. =(

>> No.11995954

It's a jewish drug.

>> No.11995956

>>11995641
If sexual release is an addiction, then so is sleeping and eating.

>> No.11995961

>>11995679
I have a hunch that many plebbit trannies became that way because of cooming to that shit.

>> No.11995968

>>11995961
yeah, yeah, if we forbid men follow there nature they sure will marry us, even if we are ugly and dumb. Oh ups sorry i shouldn't have said that loud.

>> No.11996012

>>11995956
Sexual release is one thing, but supernormal sexual crack is another.

Think of the difference between opium and heroin, or cane sugar and corn syrup.

Refinement is the killer.

>> No.11996044 [DELETED] 

>>11995641
I have wondered if circumcision interferes with sexual satisfaction. Or if having the glans exposed does something to arousal, creates hypersexuality. Some Jews have been noted to be horned out and sex crazed at all times.

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>>11995956
>>11996012
On a biological level, the brain can't understand what porn is. We were never meant to fap to 30+ tabs of imouto loli futa incest milf /ss/ doujinshis. It completely short-circuits the brain's dopamine system.

Science has gone too far.

>> No.11996515

>>11996056
Exactly this.
People usually start masturbating when they're very young, which makes it incredibly hard to get rid of the addiction when they're old enough to realize they have an addiction.
The same goes for alcohol, smoking, drugs and literally any type of substance or exercise that flushes your brain with serotonin.

>> No.11996673

>>11995914
Fuck off reddit.