/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11980586
I don't care.

>>11980586
>this is how American tax money is spent

>>11980588
Why? This is one of the greatest things NASA has ever done. Now NASA and cosmology in general can be more inclusive towards minorities.

>>11980586
#AbolishWhites #DecolonizeSTEM

>>11980590
ehhh, including women and minorities is a big deal in America. It's ultimately a good thing.

>>11980586
Siamese twins are called such because of a set of conjoined twins who came to America and make huge success in sideshows.
They married white women and had 21 kids between them.
I don't think they minded. I don't think anyone in Thailand (Siam) gives a shit.

>>11980594
Because I'm not in HR, I just don't care. As long as the person I'm working with, be it on anything, is respectful and cooperative I could care less.

>>11980600
including them in what? in what ways are they "not included"?

>>11980606
Leadership positions, high paying positions, STEM.

There's less women CEOs, presidents, etc

>>11980606
They see racist names like "Eskimo Nebula" and then refuse to enter the field because they don't want to work at a racist institution.

>>11980611
And minorities*

>>11980611
Agree with this. The "merit" based system which results in more white people and men specifically needs to go. It should be diversity based and 50% of the positions would be reserved for women.

>>11980586
>diversity, inclusion, and equity experts in the astronomical and physical sciences
God damn

>>11980611
it's all a conspiracy to keep cunty down

>>11980612
>Eskimo or Eskimos are the Indigenous circumpolar peoples who have traditionally inhabited the northern circumpolar region from eastern Siberia to Alaska,

>>11980614
I think it's just an artifact of a time where women and minorities quite literally weren't equal under the law.

>>11980586
Every day I grow more sleepy.

>>11980611
Yes, put the women in charge. I would love some entertainment, and watching the world burn is always entertaining.

>>11980619
yeah and jews have genetic memory of the hollacawst

>>11980621
Women already are increasingly "in charge"

so be careful what you wish for... it might come true.

>>11980612
the sad thing is people unironically believe this.

women are slaves to procedure and rarely have any initiative

>The Agency will be working with diversity, inclusion, and equity experts in the astronomical and physical sciences to provide guidance and recommendations for other nicknames and terms for review.

>"These nicknames and terms may have historical or culture connotations that are objectionable or unwelcoming, and NASA is strongly committed to addressing them," said Stephen T. Shih, Associate Administrator for Diversity and Equal Opportunity at NASA Headquarters. "Science depends on diverse contributions, and benefits everyone, so this means we must make it inclusive.”

>>11980624
It's unprofessional. Imagine if the Chinese space agency was naming things like the Amerimutt nebula or the Britbonger galaxy. Then you go work there, and you're like come on guys that's just silly, let's get some real names.

>>11980633
>Imagine if the Chinese space agency was naming things like the Amerimutt nebula or the Britbonger galaxy.
LMAO
I'd probably enjoy that.

the FUCKNIGGERS Nebula has raised some eyebrows.

>>11980635
this. i'd find it funny, in fact i'd want to work there more.

>>11980633
that's right, only us evil whitoids name things after foreign stuff

>>11980639
Never said that, and I'd be against any such behavior regardless of race. Because I'm not a bigot.

>>11980643
lol

>>11980586
>Men: We're gonna go to space!
>Women: we want to come too!
>Women: *actually wastes government funding on propaganda like a boss*

>>11980633
That's how most shit was named throughout history. I honestly wouldn't care and the majority of the time it's not even offense. Why do people get pissy about "Eskimo" but think "German" or "Japanese" are OK?

>>11980643
ok but how is that equivalent to eskimo and siamese twins? eskimo and siamese is literally the name of the people. it'd be like calling some nebula american nebula. it really isn't offensive and you have to be retarded to think it is.

>>11980648
this. it's not like it's called the slant eyed gook twins galaxy. sure if that was the case i'd understand.

You must think incredibly little of the emotional and intellectual capacity of a given minority to think they'd be upset/offended by these names.

>>11980611
All of stem revolves around women at this point. All I ever get are shitty emails from the IOP and physworld magazines which are 100%
"LOL WOMEN NEED MORE FUNDING LOL WOMEN ONLY SCHOLARSHIP LOL WOMEN LABS LOL WOMEN LOL AFRICAN WOMEN".
like where's the fucking physics, I just want to see the progress of humanity not a bunch of attention starved whores

>>11980614
What if it nothing to do with race and gender and everything to do with culture and biology?
Men and women are fundamentally different and in general have different interests and consequently choose different career paths. This was highlighted in James Demore's memo, I'd recommend reading it.
It's also proven in Big 5 personality traits as the results are consistent cross-culture, meaning biological factors are just as, if not more, influential than social factors when it comes to interests/careers.

>>11980673
in countries that are culturally freer we see more of an effect of biology, ie less women in stem. shocker.

>>11980663
No one actually is upset by things like this. the outrage quite plainly has an ulterior motive, that is, it's all just a weapon to dismantle what they deem "white privilege."

>>11980683
it's more than that, it's control through language altogether. the "white privilege" boogeyman is just sold as the rationale.

>>11980646
All of NASA is a propaganda outfit retard.
We never went to space. NASA is part of the masonic globohomo deep state.
You think Humans landed on the moon on a capsule made from tinfoil? Get real.

Trump has played along so far but all will be revealed when the NWO puppet masters are sent to GITMO or executed. Great things are coming. The revenge of the uninitiated against the demoncrap cabal.

>>11980611
There's also less women garbage truck drivers, construction workers, welders, mechanics, busdrivers, taxi drivers etc. etc.

No one cares though because they're shit jobs that don't pay well and aren't prestigious positions even though they're necessary for everyday life. But by all means let's make more women CEOs and presidents.

>>11980704
A lot of those jobs actually do pay well though.
Just from your list, truck drivers, construction workers, welders, and mechanics can all make very good money.
What it really comes down to roasties is prestige because they're obsessed with social status.

>>11980679
It's almost as if once you reduce the the social element you amplify the biological element :o
This was highlighted in the Scandanavian studies, set the social science types as mad as when they're told IQ is the best indicator of future success, because then their argument of society being the road block is null.

>>11980709
>can
I've never met a mechanic or truck driver that lived in a mansion and took his yacht to the bahamas to his third summer home. Never seen a construction worker come to the site in his private helicopter or even a ferrari. Anything "can" pay a lot. The reality is that they often don't. You can be a welder and get paid 80 grand a year if you're doing something specialized but you're most likely just making shovels or some shit and earning pennies.

>>11980721
No aircon for wahmen in those jobs either

>>11980650
>it'd be like calling some nebula american nebula
No, it's not equivalent to that at all. Inuits literally are American.
>>11980648
Appeal to history fallacy, and
>Why do people get pissy about "Eskimo" but think "German" or "Japanese" are OK?
Because those aren't equivalent.

>>11980726
>No, it's not equivalent to that at all. Inuits literally are American.
eskimos are a group of people. americans are a group of people. just because some eskimos are also american doesn't change that. they are equivalent in that neither terms are offensive. sure if it was called snowgook nebula you'd have a point.

>>11980633
>Imagine if 日本's defensive army was named something like Japanese Defense Force.
You are delusional.

>>11980586
Authorities decide what must and must not be said so I don't find it unnatural at all for organizations and individuals to fulfill what is demanded of them.

Finally

>>11980600
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>11980600
>It's ultimately a good thing.
imagine believing this.

>>11980586
Etymologically speaking, there exists a scientific consensus that the word Eskimo comes from the Innu-aimun (Montagnais) word ayas̆kimew meaning "a person who laces a snowshoe" and is related to "husky" (a breed of dog), and it does not have a pejorative meaning in origin.[22][23][24][25][2]

>>11980740
Empathy or enthalpy?

>>11980733
How about Indian for Native Americans? Eskimo is kind of like that. Nobody identified themselves as Eskimos until they got colonized.

>>11980586
>>11980612
>>11980633
>>11980739
>that may be deemed offensive towards minorities
>They see racist names like "Eskimo Nebula"
>It's unprofessional.
It is racist to assume that any of these races of people, such as Eskimos or Siamese, find these terms offensive. Did they poll a substantial sample size of these peoples to get their individual opinions? Did they contact an official representative who can actually speak for them? It would be even more heinously racist if they took an unofficial opinion of an unofficial representative, the opinions of a handful from these races, or an anonymous/unrelated outcry and then assumed their opinions spoke for every individual of that race.

>>11980747
Thanks for the citations bro, with them I can actually check the sources and shieet

>>11980761
nobody actually cares about this shit

>>11980765
In case you are being sarcastic: Clickable numbers available at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo#Description

>>11980764
no, these people have the mindsets of sheltered 16 year old girls

>>11980761
>How about Indian for Native Americans? Eskimo is kind of like that. Nobody identified themselves as Eskimos until they got colonized.
>>11980747

>>11980764
This. Also isn't what they are doing the opposite of diversity and inclusion? Weren't the Eskimos and the Siamese people happy that there were objects in the sky refering to them? Now they are not gonna be named after them anymore, doesn't it feel like they are loosing part of their culture/something that belongs to them?

>>11980605
*Couldn't care less

>>11980773
Shieeet! It's like I can view your sources right in this website, thanks so much for including them brooo!!!

>>11980774
I must practice my 'arguing logic with retards' if I am to consider affecting politics in 20 years.
>>11980780
>Weren't the Eskimos and the Siamese people happy that there were objects in the sky refering to them?
Careful now. That assumption could be considered racist for the same reason.
The correct approach is to not insinuate either way and divert the question of "is it offensive?" to the actual race who will probably never give a response that could be considered official. And point out any logical flaws to assert 'I'm not racist, you're racist!"

>>11980796
>I must practice my 'arguing logic with retards' if I am to consider affecting politics in 20 years.
pretty much

>>11980623
Oh I'm god damned well aware. I've been complacent, but aware for a long damn time. It will be so nice to watch people reap what they sow, thinking they can fuck with the natural order. Join me, or don't, and sit back and watch.

>>11980784
>>>/b/

>>11980761
>>11980721
>>11980643
fucking kill yourself you brainwashed piece of human shit. HURR 1984 was an instruction manual! We must destroy the past to improve the future! We should allocate capital and brainpower and use it to police language that would only hurt the feelings of cultivated victims. DIE.

>>11980633
That would be pretty based.

>>11980643
>Because I'm not a bigot.
no you actually seem to be

>>11980603
>I don't think they minded. I don't think anyone in Thailand (Siam) gives a shit.
That doesn't matter. Some white girl in a urban center was offended on behalf of Siam.

>>11981101
This. And she knows what is best for them.

Black holes to be called "holes of color"
We did it fellow scientists, we ended racism

>>11980603
Virtue-signaling whites in America care, and that's all that matters.

>>11980612
God I wish this was true

>>11980586
>Siamese Twins
So I just learned about the story of the term.
Joined twins were found in Siam by a scot who brought them to Europe to tour in freak shows, at 18. At 28, they get US citizenship. They become farmers, and marry two white sisters, with whom they had 11 children each. They lived in conjoined houses and spent 3 days in each house with each wife in turn. They owned 33 slaves. They died at 65.

>>11981478
You can see how happy their wives were.

Apparently the Inuit find "Eskimo" offensive, but the Yupik and Inpiat don't have any objections, and find the Inuit tendency to s/Eskimo/Inuit/ itself to be offensive. Might as well call it the Yupik Nebula.

>>11980586
The right: GET WOKE GO BROKE!
The left: Go broke? I guess we'll just move to government agencies. Now get on to work Trumptard, our twitter account manager just had a raise and someone has to pay for it!

>>11980693
if they didn't go to the moon why were they so freaked out by the soil samples they brought back?

>>11980586
>Eskimo
sure why not
>Siamese twins
too far

>>11980611
that's a fucking choice you dingus

>>11980633
>eskimo is derogatory
KEK

>>11980633
>descriptive words are inherently offensive
I can't wait to live in a world without nouns

>>11980586
Changing "Siamese"? Pff.

>>11980586
>not only insensitive but actively harmful
So, are they going to come up with another designation for Pluto? DWARF planet? Harmful to short people, for sure.
https://theplanets.org/dwarf-planets/

>>11980679
y=?

>>11980603
Theyre technically called conjoined twins.

>>11982259
planlet

>>11982918
The diminutive suffix is also the feminine suffix. Thus it is offensive to women. As it implies women are lesser

>>11980726
>Because those aren't equivalent.
They ACT-SHOE-ALLEY are equivalent. You don't really think Germans refer to themselves as Germans when speaking German, do you?

Intel has already gone under because of hiring darkies and thats a massive corporation so NASA may well be next. Hope rests with Elon though, and we know he is massively redpilled so maybe his company will be the first to hire exclusively whites for intelligence-intensive tasks.

It's also hilarious how a bunch of NEETS can predict real world events to such a degree of accuracy.

>>11980633
>let's get some real names.
Yes, let's call it Steve

>>11980586
>The Agency will be working with diversity, inclusion, and equity experts
Your tax dollars at work.
Those experts will be sitting on insane hourly rates, and will find reasons to continue giving their expert advice for decades to come. Indefinitely even. All with paid two hour lunches and an hour break for morning and afternoon.

>>11981449
(((Whites)))

>>11980586
So how long until these retards decide "black hole" is racist?

We...we...we aren't ever going to reach the stars, are we? We aren't going to make it.

>>11983135
Westerners won't. Maybe the Chinese or the Indians will.

>>11980594
>Now NASA and cosmology in general can be more inclusive towards minorities
Nasa can transport minorities directly to outer space.

>>11980586
The government should cut their funding until they knock it off and reverse all the changes they've put in place.

>>11983138
The bees, probably.

>>11983122
From about 2005 until around 2015, people mocked those getting degrees in Women's Studies, Chicano Studies, Black Studies, etc. There were jokes about learning to say "do you want fries with that?" as one of the classes. Instead all of these _____ Studies graduates infected every employer they could sneak into. Once a few got in, they opened the door for all of their fellow _____ Studies graduates. Now they are busy destroying everything they touch while those who mocked them are left wondering how this was able to happen.

>>11983250
Pretty much applies to every aspect of the way things have gone to shit over the past century. In the name of justice, equality and freedom the doors were opened. But as we have found out, if you give an inch, they take a mile. Too late a few people began to understand that it was never about equality or justice but rather about control and power. So the taking, the corruption, and the debasement continues. It never stops. It never will until the institutions and cultural values that gave them the freedom in the first place are destroyed and replaced with thuggery and totalitarianism.

Cut nasa budget already jesus

>>11983250
because these "grievance studies" were an weapon training ground for ideological terrorists, look into who funded these courses and you have your answers

>>11980747
Huh, never knew the "eater of raw meat" was a folk-etymology. There are so many falsehoods that get peddled and you just uncritically accept as a kid because they don't seem important at the time.

Like the claim that there is no genetic basis for race, for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy

>>11980612
>Eskimo Nebula
>named because it resembles a person's head surrounded by a parka hood
Oh no, how racist.
As an Aussie I can say I would be perfectly happy with a Nebula being named the Aussie Nebula because it looked like pic related, how is the Eskimo Nebula any different?

>>11980597
Dilate

This just in; NASA has announced they are renaming 2 of the planets named after roman gods to goddesses to appease the feminists.

>>11983128
i got pulled into a black hole recently

>>11983563
Venus will be pissed, she doesn't like to share.

>>11983563
>Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune named Big Sheboon, Min Ying, Aisha Al Hariib and Tyrone

>>11983579
Gross

>>11983563
Is this because Jupiter fucked his sister?

>"look Niggina, we've incorporated your core minority values inside our organization!"
>"Niggina don't care, Niggina want food stamps!"

>>11983591
faggot detected

>>11983597
I swear those " there's no way we could've gone to the moon" posters are in denial because modern NASA is cracked...

>>11980612
It's a filter. The only people who care about that are the people who only care about identity politics.

>>11983597
i mean they must be smart women, at least i hope so because they are extremely ugly

>>11980586
Good move, this'll quiet down the sjws enough so they won't notice that we still refer to red supergiant HR 6134 as "glownigger".

>>11980586
This was proven right in one day

>>11983579
Was it near the Crab Nebula?

>>11983717
The top left section about china is pretty good point to those retards who wonder why rockets are launched in cape canaveral or why launches are interrupted for bad weather and shit. You can do things safe or you can do things fast, there's probably a sweet spot in between but safe is considered better when there is no pressing need.

>>11983717
>that jew york times piece at the bottom
Do they just have a template that they chug new victim complexes into?

>>11980643
>...bigot
bingo

>>11980611
Maybe because they are statistically less represented in the population? Not every job needs inclusion you fucking midwit. Meritocracy is the keyword here.

>>11980586
Oh jesus christ.....fuck this gay planet.

>>11980594
Why would anybody want that?

>>11980586
Good start. When will mathematicians stop being bigoted as well, using terms like "Chinese postman problem" and "Chinese remainder theorem"?

>>11980597
Imagine being this cucked

>>11980586
Black people are only dark brown, black holes are literally FUCKING BLACK.

the future of mankind look great lads.

>>11983597
go back to r9k thanks

We should genocide all Jews and commies
Put white people in zoos so that they do not go extinct, in a couple of hundred years when all traces of leftism have been abolished, we ought to reintroduce white people to society

>Inb4 pol
Political science is a science :^)

>>11984633
and North Korea is a Democratic republic

>>11980594
>one of the greatest things NASA has ever done
Anon what the fuck do you think NASA does that an HR create spreadsheet of words somehow tops the list

>>11980586
Nigga if all it took to discourage someone was some vaguely offensive terminology, they weren't gonna make it anyway.

That and what ever happened to the saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me"? That was a good saying. Is our life so cushy the only problems we have left are the ones we make in our own heads?

>>11984422
The Chinese remainder theorem is so named because the Chinese discovered it. Why would they want us to stop giving them credit?

>>11984929
>Is our life so cushy the only problems we have left are the ones we make in our own heads?

Yes, that's why we're all chilling at home on computers constantly. It's the future, after all.

>>11984422
Supposedly Hatcher avoids the name "Hawaiian earring" in his book for this exact reason.

>>11984934
Do you think the people complaining are that smart

>>11985310
Is anyone actually complaining about this?

>>11980586

>>11983717
>What is the age of consent in space?
Lol

>>11980586
This makes me unreasonably angry
Along with naming newly discovered objects by some dumb tribal names

>tfw diversity offices and hrsluts will never be dissolved and continue to cost ungodly amounts of money that could have been used on something actually useful

>>11985808
>not fucking the women and traps in hr and diversity positions

It's like you don't even get why they're there.

>>11985861
>gets me too'd
Heh nothing personel boym

>>11985886
Only ugly losers catch shit for it. The steno pool is still there to fuck.

>>11980586
And this is where american taxpayer's money goes friends...

lol

>>11980594
>live in the north pole
>extremely gifted
>ride flying reindeer to MIT
>get degree in aerospace engineering
>about to apply to NASA
>Eskimo nebula
>welp, guess they don't want me here

>>11982744
Likelihood of properly labelling their axes.

>>11980586
Daily reminder that virtue-signallers are literally sociopaths and pandering to their mental illness makes things worse.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2020-46166-001

>>11981441
>Black holes to be called "holes of color"
KEK

>>11983135
ayo hol up whitey on the moon pay dem reparations

>>11985861
Faggot

>>11980594

yeah, even greaten than putting a man on the moon

>>11980648
Germans and Japanese are white sweetie, there's no such thing as racism against them. :^)

>>11980740
If Lisa thinks there is a relationship between dark matter and empathy, she's probably legit retarded. So I wouldn't be surprised if she's in fact saying some racist shit in that article, which I'm not going to bother looking up.

>>11980586
The absolute state of the scientific community

Seriously, Eskimo is a verboten word now?

>>11987726
kek

>>11980612
The only eskimo I ever met was a woman who had "eskimo" as part of her email address.

>>11980594

This is what happens when you guys refer to black holes as "nigger holes".