/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11934460
I want to huff her farts

>>11934454
Yep.
One of my best memories from the 80's was coming home from highschool, wearing my walkman. Still got some of the cassettes I used to play.

>>11934465
when she loses her job for leaking starlink and has to start an onlyfans because covid destroyed the job market you might be able to

>>11934460
Please put the edition in future threads. Adds character.

/sfg/ - space flight general - let’s spam jessie anderson into the OP for the fucking millionth time edition

>>11934478
Fucking nice, thought I was the only one in my 40's here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlSlryb6aUI&t=17s

Lets keep talking about this guy, kinda retarded but makes some good points.

>>11934485
Based and thank you.

I've been making JPL mission control in unity so I can watch the launch in vrchat. Is /sfg/ interested in joining?

>>11934494
the only good points he makes are that starship won't be ferrying 100 people, other then that its mostly convoluted BS

>>11934514
Add catgirl poledancers and I might

Oh my god

Fully fueled SuperHeavy/Starship has more energy than 4 'little boys'. It's over. No mars, no more Boca Chica.

>>11934514
It's a nice model, but what do people even do in VR chat? Just talk and do weird stuff with their avatars? I'm way too antisocial for any of that. Also, I don't have a VR headset. It's very hard to get the good ones in Russia.

>>11934460
What do you think she would do/has done to Musk?

>>11934528
>what do people even do in VR chat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t28mQYUszFc&feature=emb_logo

>>11934528
Based antisocial Ivan. VR chat is just a place to hang out and you can play it without a headset. Although I'm super antisocial too so even I wouldn't join. It's gotten to the point where I don't even talk to people in runescape cause I don't want them to try to add me as a friend

>>11934514
Will it have gay ERP? If not, forget it

Space Force reorganization happened today.
https://www.spaceforce.mil/News/Article/2287005/space-force-begins-transition-into-field-organizational-structure

>ywn be in Space Delta 9 (Orbital Warfare)
>The mission of Delta 9 is to prepare, present, and project assigned and attached forces for the purpose of conducting protect and defend operations and providing national decision authorities with response options to deter and, when necessary, defeat orbital threats.
The X-37b's are officially part of Delta 9.
>Delta 9 Detachment 1 oversees operations of the X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle, an experimental program designed to demonstrate technologies for a reliable, reusable, unmanned space test platform for the U.S. Space Force.
https://www.schriever.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/275817/750th-operations-group/

>>11934549
+1 to yike

>>11934549

fuck you for making me watch that

>>11934562
>This could go wrong very fast when people can't get away
I think it's improbable on the first trips with hyper-selected colonists. It's more likely that something kicks off when they're sending tens of thousands of people.

This raises a question, how would they contain someone on Starship that has gone wild? Could they keep them sedated the whole time or would they have to put them in their own tiny prison? Maybe put them in a SpaceX straitjacket and tether them to a certain area.

>>11934581
Send in the ninjas.

>>11934522
>4600 metric tons of CH4
I think you accidentally a unit conversion.

>>11934549
I don't understand. Are they just roleplaying with worrying amounts of accuracy, or are they actually in the same room, to headsets and all, having sex for all to hear. Probably the first one, but still what the fuck?

>>11934581
>This raises a question, how would they contain someone on Starship that has gone wild? Could they keep them sedated the whole time or would they have to put them in their own tiny prison?
Panicking uses extra oxygen. They'd have to sedate them or space them.

>>11934594
Not me, the youtuber guy.

>>11934598
you put on headset, put on trackers that attach to your hip/feet, then assume the position and engage in your interdimensional """sex"""

>>11934522
Energy =/= power.
Nukes are so destructive because they release their energy in microseconds. A rocket deflagration happens over the course of seconds, and doesn't cause nearly as much damage.

>>11934568
chair force btfo
also its not even a year old and its already reorganizing(yikes)

>>11934494
His points about refueling are retarded.
He said Starship shouldn't burn more than half of its propellant in order to get to orbit, leaving it with 600 tons of propellant leftover. Uh, what? That would make Starship a 700 ton to orbit launch vehicle, not a 100 ton to orbit launch vehicle. It would take one more Tanker with an additional 600 tons of propellant to refill Starship completely. This guy literally did not even do any math and he has no idea how rockets work.

>>11934599
Not to waste an excuse to space someone, because that's cool as fuck, but isn't the oxygen a closed loop system?

>>11934598
>they actually in the same room, to headsets and all, having sex
I would do this with ugly girls I bring home, if they were up for it.

>>11934642
That alone makes all of his arguments suspect.

>>11934460
Would she smile like that while I'm dicking her, makes me hard just thinking about it,

>>11934644
No.

>>11934528
pretty much what >>11934551 said. Though you don't *need* a headset to join vrchat because it has a desktop mode.
>>11934518
>>11934549
>>11934559
vrchat has the unfortunate association with these type of people due to the freedom of customization and the impossible task of moderating everything. Despite that it still is a really good tool for showing people your 3d creations in VR and in multiplayer. Picrel are 3d models from NASA.

>>11934568
They put out the logo on wednesday

>>11934669
I've seen plenty of cool shit in VRchat, it's a shame it's been taken over by weirdos. If it was just slightly more mod-able (and functional in a game sense) it could legitimately be the gary's mod of VR.

>>11934460
I want to go to Mars with her and make many cute martian jello babies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW_jsS_JnMY
Do Americans really?

>>11934660
Anyone who makes conservative estimates in order to argue against a technology is pushing to discredit it and not being honest about debunking it.
On the contrary, any idea with actual flaws will have those flaws become extremely obvious if you argue from the opposite direction, only making optimistic estimates and giving the benefit of the doubt, because that will lead you to the BEST CASE scenario conclusion, and if that case doesn't look so great, you can bet your ass the real thing would be a pile of shit.

>>11934693
Trawl through hundreds of people so they could find 4 weirdos to put on the internet? yes.
99.9% of the people who showed up were probably completely normal.

>>11934667
Do you mean they're not using water electrolysis like on the ISS to create oxygen or that electrolysis isn't closed loop? You can close the water electrolysis loop by using the Sabatier process.

>>11934700
I doubt they're going to do that in flight. It's probably going to be topped off from the LOX header tank, mixed with whatever tanks they throw in the fuselage, nitrogen etc. A sabatier processor is not a small piece of equipment and it requires fuels as well as over 400 degrees celcius of operating temperature.

>>11934693
Why are there so many dumb people in Florida?

>>11934715
there are dumb people in warm climates all over the world
not sure why, but it's a correlation I've noticed

>>11934705
I think the ESA plans to install this in the not too distant future on ISS:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MELiSSA
It's a catalytic and bioreactor-based life support system.

>>11934725
That means Australia is full of them.

>>11934726
Yes, it's a very nice experimental module. Not exactly what I'd bring with me on a maiden flight of a starship or have it take up half the space available though.

>>11934733
Sure, which is why this thing is probably going to ISS and some early lunar outposts for its shakedown.

official

>>11934737
Yeah, thing is, how much can a module of that size sustain? Half a person? A third? We're going to need really large ships if we're going to rely on bioreactors of that kind to sustain our needs.

Space Shuttle was huge.

>>11934740
Yiff in Space - The Mission Patch.

9 days till Demo Crew landing

MOMO launch in 5 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf_fIBXg0oA

Long March launch in 7 hours

>>11934715
A meme at this point. I suspect it started with the drug trade and half of florida being on opiates and the other half going senile

>>11934744
In 2009, it could handle the metabolic needs of one person (a colony of forty rats) which is actually pretty solid for a proof-of-concept. They kept that one running for a few years I think, and they aimed for their crew-scale pilot plant to be ready sometime between this year and 2025.

>>11934769
That big fucking module for one person.
Yeah, we're gonna need something bigger than a fucking starship. We're gonna need a fleet of starships to launch them to the shit we're building at the L1 orbital shipyards.
It's a nice science experiment, not much more.

ORBITAL
SHIPYARDS
WHEN

>>11934775
Final plant size is supposed to be small enough to fit through the berthing ports on ISS, though I don't know details about whether it will have multiple parts or some complex plumbing.

>>11934782
Doesn't matter what shape it comes in. It's many cubic meters of complex plumbing and biomass required to produce the oxygen to barely keep one human being going in a sedentary microgravity lifestyle.

>>11934790
Did you miss the part where they're working on the version intended to support 4-6 people right now, and the one-man version was from over ten years ago?

>>11934797
Yeah, it's just scaled up. It's not a closed system by the way.

>>11934780
Only after we get orbital propellant dep

>>11934547
Leak his confidential beta testing equipment

>>11934740
The patch is based, but the lack of names and any words besides a big "1" bothers me

>>11934799
>It's not a closed system by the way.
Almost nothing is. The best we could do for a completely closed loop oxygen generator is water electrolysis plus a Sabatier and Bosch reaction that would only require energy as the input once it gets going.

>>11934855
This is why some elements of more elegant life support systems will probably be forgone initially at a SpaceX colony on Mars. The fuel plant will collect more than enough water and produce more than enough oxygen than is necessary. Gaseous waste at the colony can just be separated and vented to the external atmosphere.

>>11934693
Have you ever been to Florida?

>>11934780
Cool fanfic bro

Currently reading a Space book (I'm that guy if you from 2/3 thread ago who asked for book recommendations). What's everyone's opinion on Blue Origin? From my reading, they're super secretive about everything they do. What are the chances that an absurdly rich man is also interested in Space at the same time when commercial spaceflight is taking off.

>>11934838
>it was a leak
you just flunked marketing 101

>>11935028
both Blue Origin and SpaceX have been around for about 20 years, around when a law was passed that made commercial spaceflight legal, so they've been interested much longer than it seemed viable.

>>11935028
Well, as far as I know Blue Origin is way older than when commercial spaceflight took flight. Also I don't think Bezos really cares about spaceflight as in the sense of forwarding humanity as opposed to Musk. I say this because of Blue Origin trying to pull off shit like patenting landing boosters and stuff: imagine how far back would SpaceX be if they couldn't land on barges. They also wanted to use the launch pad in KSC that SpaceX is leasing, imagine if they had won that lease and sat there for 20 years doing nothing with it. Yeah, I feel like BO is Bezos' pet project and that's it.
I do hope they are succesful though, if they get their reusability working maybe they can drag oldspace with them into it, since BO has better ties with oldspace than SpaceX. Also, competition is good.

>>11935063
Holy shit I didn’t believe you at first but yeah, Elon started space exploration technologies in 2002

>>11935087
Space Exploration Technologies. They still own that name right? Like "SpaceX" is just an abbreviation? It would be cool to see the full name on stuff like cargo

>>11935087
you haven't seen the maracas photo?

>>11935077
>Also I don't think Bezos really cares about spaceflight as in the sense of forwarding humanity as opposed to Musk
100% wrong. Below is obsessed about space. He knew Gerard O’Neill as a prof and learnt about O’Neill cylinders. He was president of a space club when he was younger. He literally fished out rocket engines from the sea because he was obssesed to see them. The guy is dedicated to space, he just doesn’t shout about it and is a strong believer in being the tortoise in the race. BO’s entire modus operandi is based on this - their logo has a tortoise and their slogan is like furiously step by step.
Bezos is in it for the long run

>>11935121
So pretentious for a company that's done literally nothing

>>11935131
In fairness to Jeff Bezos, Blue Origin has done a superb job with the BE-4 engine. ULA picking it over Aerojet Rocketdyne's design is a hell of an endorsement. Keeping everything about a product close to the vest until it's ready to go is just how Jeff operates. We forget how weird SpaceX's radical openness is to the industry.

(full disclosure: am an Amazon engineer)

>>11935116
Well I had no idea. Well I retire what I said about Bezos, but I mantain that trying to put a stick in other people's wheel is not an attitude conducive to the advance of spaceflight as a whole.

>>11935134
Yeah I agree, I suspect by the time Bezos officially unveils New Glenn it will be flying payloads almost immediately. He will probably continue working with ULA and other government contractors to get lots of launches (even with Starship in the competition) and have time to develop the starship competitor. Lots of people joke about him sitting on his ass but AFAIK they have already started testing components for Glenn.

>>11935136
I just finished reading about that incident - Bezos legit wanted it and teamed up with ULA to pressure SpaceX. He wasn’t just doing it to stick fingers at SpaceX. Also, Bezos wanted the site open for all and would’ve (allegedly) shared it with a SpaceX. You’re right though, they were nowhere near ready using it.

>>11935156
Knowing how things work at AWS, the BE-4 has been extremely well tested within Blue Origin and was considered a finished product before they shipped them to ULA for their own testing. The real question is everything else - tanks, superstructure, fairings, software, payload adapters, etc.

>>11935167
trying to share the pad with ULA and SpaceX would have just turned into nobody using the pad ever

>>11935116
>Elon's rocket blows up on the launch pad again
>as the smoke clears and public is turning to leave suddenly there's a rumble in the sky that's getting louder
>out of nowhere BO rocket lands on top the pile of rubble
>Bezos comes out and is like "nevermind that, here's our new rocket that actually works, if anyone's interested"

>tfw you load up your rocket with freshly processed iridium and platinum and put it into a LEO trajectory and begin your months long cruise through the yawning blackness of space, knowing your loved ones and fortune await

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTu9G6a6ok&feature=youtu.be

we new silk road now boyos

>>11935234
Klingons are space Mongols.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4xZUr0BEfE

>>11934715
the smart people left

>>11935245
man mongols have so much soul

>>11934494
He really got torn a new asshole in that comment section so I won't beat a dead horse here, but I will point out that this is what happens when people confuse skepticism for being skeptical about anything that cannot be readily proven true using only the information they have at hand. It's confirmation bias on steroids, any small grain of truth he finds about Starship is evidence to him that the whole thing is impossible and that the 8000 employees at SpaceX must be wasting their time.

The same type of thing happens with Tesla as well but it's so much worse because it's publicly traded so they think they're going to profit from their 'skepticism' and they short sell the stock. I've seen so many seemingly intelligent people lose most of their lifesavings this way which can be unnerving at times because it makes you wonder if you'll ever end up doing something similar.

>>11935300
When did people get so ignorant that they just assumed thousands of aerospace engineers were all simultaneously retarded?

>>11935300
the fact he mentioned "escape pods" tells you everything you need to know about his knowledge of space travel and rocketry in general

>>11935336
when they get paid by Boeing!
seriously though, this fag probably thinks the boeing starliner is a great vehicle with no issues

>>11934757
>MOMO
more like NONO: scrubbed again due to high level winds

so much for their drill to pierce the heavens!

Yo ho, yo ho!
Near twitter I will not go.
Grab some of your attention,
And forge kinship with Bruno.

I’ll slip my cold revenge in
With a pretty methane Engine.
Ye have all been mislead
By Musk, the dashing has-been.

Yes ‘tis true I am unwed,
But bear in mind what lies ahead.
Soon you’ll talk of New Glenn, lads;
We shall commandeer this thread!

Craven ULA sniper chads,
Martian children and their dads,
Will inhabit our Solar System and
Put to rest the shitty Starship fads.

Yo ho, yo ho!
Near twitter I will not go.
A propensity to be quiet?
Neigh! Soon my plans will be let go!

>>11935336
>they just assumed thousands of aerospace engineers were all simultaneously retarded?
A lot of them have some disassociation with that because of their hatred of Elon Musk. See how often he weirdly references Elon himself instead of SpaceX, to them this is a company of slaves driven by their boisterous master and they couldn't have vetted any of this technology.
>>11935343
He is effectively a shill but I don't think he is getting paid. He is going to try to make videos on NeuraLink but also some run of the mill skeptic stuff like solar roadways that has already been beaten to death.

>>11935366
Return of the limerick poster

>>11934757
>Long March launch in 3 hours
with a satellite named "Apocalypse-10". I wonder what that one does?

>>11934740
diversity

>>11934522
Starship doesn't have 4.6 million tons of CH4, most of that mass is liquid oxygen actually. It's probably closer to around 20KT worth of tnt, not 64.

>>11935028
Bezos and his companies have an anti-Elon bent. Whether that's Tesla/Rivian(stealing tesla trade secrets), Starlink/Amazon-Kuiper(trying to block Starlink from getting bands), SpaceX/BlueOrigin(trying to patent landing on boats/trying to block spacex from renting NASA launch pads). Bezos must be seething hard that all of his companies have fallen short and lagging behind Elon's companies.

>>11935392
the nip is from JAXA so the NASA contingent is 2/3 white

wtf bros i think startship isnt gonna happen now...

damn bob put a lot of work on his stay in the ISS.

Talk about productive

>>11935366
>>11935377
would you look at those gets

>>11935365
>>11935411
fuck weather
>>11935134
BO may not look like it's doing much, but at least it's doing it in the right direction. It's okay to be #2 in a race when you're still a mile ahead of the rest.

>>11935156
I also wonder if New Glenn won't be revealed alongside the fully functional DM-2-tier mature manned capsule that's rumored to be hidden in the back of BO's WA facility. When New Glenn appears within the next 18 months,, BO will all but certainly catch up immediately to where SpaceX is today, at least in terms of what they can offer commercially, and I'll bet we'll see New Armstrong by 2025.

>>11935435
>It's okay to be #2 in a race when you're still a mile ahead of the rest.

Yeah, exactly. NG will debut 99% mature, just like on oldspace product, and will probably fly a manned mission with a Crew Dragon-tier capsule by 2024, which as you said will set up BO to play Microsoft to SpaceX's Apple quite well.

>>11935366
>>11935437
Has it been confirmed that Bezos is trying to keep things on the DL on purpose? Like is it entirely possible he is secretly getting NASA’s approval for new glenn and has asked them not to talk about it? I could see him randomly unveiling it with a capsule and already having it human rated. Also the fact that ULA is using their engines is a big deal. Vulcan is going to launch spy satellites and the DoD doesn’t fuck around, so those BE-4 engines must be pretty good

>>11935437
>18 months
That's a long time for SpaceX. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that Starship fullstack will have flown few dozen times by then.

Lmao bros what if we've been underestimating Bezos this whole time? Calling him lazy and stupid... meanwhile he's going to catch up to Elon with his secret R&D funded by a bottomless wallet

>>11935448
>Has it been confirmed that Bezos is trying to keep things on the DL on purpose?
It's how we do things at Amazon so I would expect him to maintain a consistent management strategy.

>>11935457
>we
always been at a wait and see stance until at least new glenn is out before talking shit

>>11935435
good pic. Need one for Electron too.

>>11935479
Oh, well i’ve been talking mad shit about BO but now i’m starting to worry they might actually prove me wrong like a dumbass. Guess we’ll have to wait and see

>>11935484
We need a generic one for Kennedy Scrub Center.

>>11935486
Being proven wrong should be the best thing that could happen in that case, the goal should be enabling our species to be multi planetary by any means necessary

Even if it’s the Chinese rat bastards that end up doing it, as long as someone eventually ensures humanity will persist in the solar system for several thousand more years that’d be enough time for us to sort out every other problem we have including general superintelligent AI and economic scarcity

>>11935486
Since BO has unlimited money, its all a matter of time/money anyway. Its stupid to say impossible, but if there's money, they'll get there, probably not at price to compete with SpaceX. And they can't do it in time SpaceX does.

>>11935517
I'd rather not bugmen overlording over humans in the future.

>>11935517
I find it odd that we're going to meet the same fate regardless of if it's the Chinese or the Americans, or whoever else that go on to colonize other planets. We're going to get replaced by AI, it's a fate that terrifies me yet gives me some relief at the same time. No one will truly win or lose in that situation.

>>11935396
>Bezos and his companies have an anti-Elon bent.
>mrw I mentioned SpaceX as one of my inspirations to be an aerospace engineer during my interview with Blue Origin

>>11935517
Not trying to be a douche, but why does that matter? If an asteroid hit Earth and you and I died, what does it matter if our species is eradicated or if a Mars colony survives and revamps humanity.

>>11934460
imagine the smell

>>11935134
>Blue Origin has done a superb job with the BE-4 engine. ULA picking it over Aerojet Rocketdyne's design is a hell of an endorsement.
That's what really caught my attention. SpaceX had to go to court to be allowed to compete in contracts that the old guard were denying them from. Blue Origin got an oldspace company to trust them on rather revolutionary and unique engines relatively easily when their competitor was another oldpsace company. That's no small feat.

>>11935550
Humans are cool. Only intelligent life we know of.

>>11935550
Asking why does it matter is a meaningless question, why does it matter if you retire with a hefty savings? Why does it matter if you brush your teeth in the morning? Why does it matter if your body maintains homeostasis vs a piano falling on it today?

The universe is overflowing with dead rocks being pointlessly heated by massive fusion reactors and its our duty as sapient beings to convert that lifeless matter and energy into thinking minds that can appreciate the beauty of life and existence

>>11935550
>this is your brain on materialism

>>11934494
What the hell is this guy talking about

>>11935612
That is your brain on blunderf00t.

>>11934517
If it was doing point to point launches, it would very much be doing 100+ persons

>>11935582
I think a lot of it comes down to the culture of the 2 companies. Blue seems pretty grounded in the standard American aerospace industry risk-averse workflow, doing most of the engineering on the front end before hardware gets built. Meanwhile, SpaceX’s more iterative approach just doesn’t mesh with old space companies.

>>11934725

Some shit about needing to plan for winter instilling foundational planning skills or some such.

>>11935443
We saw exactly what sort of company BO was with their new horizon
Which was designed from the get go to be incapable of the suborbital antics they wanted
Also they never destroyed it in testing

Maybe I'm just being contrarian idk. I definitely think humans are important, but if we were lost to an extinction the universe would continue to wind through the cogs of time.
>>11935587
I agree with this
>>11935594
The universe is most likely overflowing with life as well, all over the place (relatively speaking). Yeah there are a LOT of dead rocks... but life definitely exists elsewhere. Every planet is a little laboratory for chemistry to form life and there are an unfathomable amount of worlds for this to take place on.
>>11935596
Yeah pretty much

>>11935637
>We saw exactly what sort of company BO was with their new horizon
Don't you mean New Shepard?

>>11935648
Whatever they wanna call it, makes no difference to me

>>11935703
Digging and covering with regolith is your best option. Idk how glass dome habitats could work like all the sci fi and concept art shows. Printing is gay but if it got better, I would prefer a dug-in home with a printed shell.

>>11935703
>muh butt plug hab
>no heavy machinery here boys ;)

>>11935449
>That's a long time for SpaceX. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that Starship fullstack will have flown few dozen times by then.

Yeah, and Starship Mk1 was supposed to have flown to 20km 6 months ago while Mk2 was supposed to have flown that SSTO flight Musk was talking about but that all seems to have slipped bigly.

At this rate it's looking like Starship will be incredibly lucky if an Sn[x] iteration even makes it above the Karman Line before 2021 and I'd bet hard cash that the full stack won't fly until 2022.

>>11935703
>"Wow MartianAnon, Is this your home city?"
"Yes."

>>11935703
>>11935714
>wow tunnel anon
>are you ever going to let me out of this tunnel?

>>11935713
They haven’t even started building starship yet or finalized exactly how they are building it
I highly doubt Raptor is a finished,product either
They are 2 years from orbit minimum

>>11935713
>>11935740
Dumb post. We're at the cusp of another 150m, then 20km. Its not gonna take them 2 years to build a fly fullstack. Fullstack will most likely fly either late this year or early next year.

So how much faster would a craft have to be, to intercept and destroy the Chink and Arab Mars probes?

Assuming we launch in 6 months outside the optimal window.

Can we just yeet a modified crew dragon from a FHeavy ?

>>11935750
>Assuming we launch in 6 months outside the optimal window.
torch ship

>>11935750
Why would you do that?

>>11935740
Bro it’s called iterative design

Is Google search a finished product? Is the iPhone a finished product? They may have alpha, beta, release versions etc but they’re constantly evolving just like Starship. Both starship and the raptor engine exist in prototype form as actual hardware, we’ve even seen a raptor engine in flight and there are multiple test articles that are active right now (SN5 and 6, soon to include 8 or whatever it is)

>>11935753
To keep mars safe

>>11935750
Probably easier to just nigger rig a nuclear warhead from the fissile material in the reactor and drop it on their colony.

>>11935718
why would you ever want to leave?

>>11935718
>wow inflatableanon, that was great! This place is so comfy!
>w-why are you putting that hose in there?
>"Real estate."

>>11935718
>"wow inflatableanon, that felt great! This place is so comfy!"
>"w-why are you putting that hose in there?"
>his face when

>one of my lifelong heroes is shilling for BO
My worldview is shattered, bros.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/24/back-to-the-moon-this-time-to-stay-380250

>>11935808
He wanted free Amazon Prime.

Chances the chinks put earth microbes on their lander? So they can claim the discovery of life on mars.

>>11935807
>Computer, begin filling bigelow habitat Omega-Charlie-8 with an aphrodisiac atmosphere. Turn down lighting to 4. And, play some Al Green.

Were the Houston Aeros even an official NHL team? I'm from houston but I don't know a thing about hockey

>>11935550
Technological resurrection

>>11935861
Fuck wrong thread

>>11935529
Between Starlink and Tesla, Spacex might have even deeper pockets by the end of the decade, which is insane.

I was thinking about asking here about rocket launches from northern Minnesota (flight path over Lake Superior) earlier, and it turns out that Michigan wants a spaceport of their own. Would a launch site along the coast of Lake Superior be worthwhile?
https://www.wxyz.com/news/northern-u-p-picked-as-top-location-for-rocket-launch-site

>>11935888
no?

I can't believe Boing is faking alien contact to make SpaceX look primitive.

Not to distract from spaceflight but Elon is showing is power level again and people are furious.

>>11935925
Lmao

>>11935871
>tens of billions of steady income going directly to talented and hyperautistic engineers with an almost cult-like dedication to bringing humanity to Mars and beyond
Best timeline

>>11935925
Literally the Trump of tech. Good luck cancelling a billionaire snowflakes

>>11935925
WE'RE REACHING CRITICAL LEVELS OF BASED

>>11935960
Also meant to reply to >>11935893
I assume this has to do with the Pentagon lmao. Boeing is trying to play a fake hand with "alien technology" because they can't do TSTO. This fucking timeline

>>11935925
I smiled imagining the stories that Ash X-17 will tell when his book comes out.

>>11935203
spaceX has like flown 90 successful flights in a row, jeff on the other hand hasn't launched one

>>11935925
What does he mean by the flower?

languages are fucking dumb anyways. There's this one language without non-cardinal directions. If you kidnapped a speaker of it and dumped him in a room without windows, he wouldn't know how to give directions (they only 'think' in terms of west/north/east/south/etc and can't comprehend forward/left/right/back)

Languages with limited color descriptors also result in people having less ability to differentiate between colors, too. Oddly enough all languages still roughly transmit the same spoken bits/second of information

>>11935976
Not just that, how many successful booster landings have they had?
>tfw you find out the last one was caused by excess cleaning fluid stuck in a sensor

>>11935977
It's poking fun at all the "democratic socialists" (Marxists) that use the rose emoji in their twitter usernames to virtue signal.

>>11935925
This absolute madman, towering above the world

>>11935988
formalists btfo

>>11936005
Are we sure it's ironic, and also doesn't Tulsi Gabbard use it as well?

>>11936011
>we get our lithium from Australia
No don't tell people that. I'm still building up my Aus lithium miner stock profile in preparation for battery day.

>>11936011
Are we sure that his account hasn't been hacked again?

>>11936011
I saw this tweet but I haven't seen this reply. Is this real?? I swear, where does the irony end and the serious Elon Musk begin?

>>11936011
>we will coup whoever we want
Inconceivably based.

>>11936011
Oh boy time to buy tesla stock again!

>>11936033
Elon is post-irony given flesh

>>11936033
The reply is real. He also has one saying that UBI is good but govt. stimulus packages which unfairly target certain industries are bad (he's not wrong).

>>11936011
Well fuck, I'd vote for him if he were constitutionally allowed to run.

>>11934517
His proof that it couldn't cart 100 people to Mars was based on a trip time over double that proposed by SpaceX

>>11935366
>>11935429
Nice rhymes and nice picture. I had to change a bit of the wording for stressing but i hope you all enjoy
https://vocaroo.com/eAwY6l3b6Rc

I'm genuinely convinced in the next few years the government will release incontrovertible evidence of ayy lmaos.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html

>>11934522
without the ionizing radiation it's just a little earthquake

>>11936049
This thread is reaching dangerous levels of based

>>11934568
hello based department
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJEBgjQIekE

>>11936011

>>11936049
Not the autism we deserve, but the autism we need

He looks ancient lately, like he could be holding his grandson. I wonder what's weighing on him. I hope that he gets to make a jello babby someday

>>11936011
GET ME THE DAMN BASED DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW THIS LEVEL OF BASED SHOULDN'T BE LEGAL, I NEED TO FILE A CLAIM URGENTLY

>>11936068
looking a bit chunky recently. Hope he's staying somewhat healthy.

>>11934460
>Cause you're not that cute
>and you're hair is uneven
>you look dusty

>>11936068
What's wrong with his neck?

>>11936079
Is that Mexico or Italy on painting?

>>11936081
He comes from a heavier planet. The lower gravity of Earth is stretching his spine out
>>11936079
Mexico. That's a pic in Texas so it's probably the battle of the alamo

>>11936088
Second half was meant for >>11936083

>>11936083
The Alamo

>>11936081
Thyroidectomy. Makes sense for Musk because things like germline PTEN mean autism. Thyroid has weird connections to mild to harsh autism in general

>>11936095
He is a strange human indeed. It's almost as if he's not.

The Chiense spysat launch was a success.

Transfers of enlisted personnel into the Space Force began today.

>>11936139
yesterday*

>>11936139
Grats. Probably the only decent branch now, at least until Israel gets a space program

>>11936106
Wait, does this motherfucker have all sons? 7 fucking sons?

>>11936176
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

>>11935808
>Former US Senator
>Shilling for oldspace
Your hero is the swamp.

>>11936011

>>11936176
Elon is the human instrument of some kind of higher power, probably extra-dimensional ayylmaos. I doubt he knows for sure, but I'm pretty sure he suspects it.

>tfw no brown dwarf in the outer solar system go visit
feels bad man

>>11936234
if you want to visit brown dwarves just go to the Congo

So uh, how long until we colonize it?

>Starlink friends and family beta started yesterday
>they've figured out inter-satellite laser links but can't make it cost effective yet and dont know how long it will be until they can figure it out, if ever

>>11936304
2800 years

>>11936304
Early to mid 2030s. It's just too sick not to build on

>>11936304
2070s-2080s, assuming there are at least 100000 people on mars by 2050, if there are 250k people on mars or more by 2050 maybe late 2060s/early 2070s, but it'll still be very small colonies, more like research outposts until the mid 2100s at the least probably. there is just so much other stuff in the solar system til then, like ganymede, callisto, and europa (pic related, highest resolution images of europa's surface)

They're still going to test tomorrow? The hurricane hits land in the morning.

>>11936330
If there’s a huge city (or more optimistically, multiple cities) on Mars by the next few decades, I would love to retire and die on a Titan outpost. Of course this is all speculation and sci fi, but Musk is so autistic he’s making it a reality

i'm gonna PROOOOOONT

is it finally happening?

>>11935976
Well I was thinking about starship. Though more realistically, even if it somehow blew up on actual orbital launch it'd be more like "oh what a bummer, if you would please give us 30 more minutes to clean the pad and roll out another one".

>>11936304
imagine the smell

>>11936333
its just a tropical storm, no biggie, just a little wind&rain

>>11936333
>tornado-assisted rocket launch

>>11936407
Which is more likely to happen first: Greg Abbott legalized recreational cannabis for Texas, or all the boomers finally leave Boca and elon can test SS whenever he pleases

Why hasn't blunderfag killed himself yet?

>>11935925
Holy shit it's real

>>11935925
Based and if a dare to even bring to this conversation.
Red pilled.

>>11936503
yeah, same
I've driven man-lifts before, it's exactly like that

>the storm is slowly strengthening and moving towards brownsville
the hop is going to get canceled for a few weeks

>It combines near real-time images from multiple geostationary satellites, updated every 10 minutes (with a delay of ~30 minutes). NASA GOES satellite for the Americas, Japan's Himawari-8 for Asia and Meteosat in Europe/Africa. Zoomable up to 500m per pixel. Beyond that it uses historical imagery from Microsoft and Esri.
>It also tracks the latest storms and hurricanes https://zoom.earth/storms/
Somebody posted this on HN the other day. It makes me want to make a useful space related website.

>>11936049
>Light and Boeing-ey

>>11936529
This makes me sad. Not necessarily because the hop is delayed, but because I don’t want Elon regretting choosing Texas. I don’t know what goes on in his mind but I pray he doesn’t have the mindset of
>Man fuck Texas, I keep having to file with the FAA cause these boomers complain all the time, and now a hurricane has set me back during a critical test
If he packed up boca and left texas I would be devastated. I love the idea of Mars missions being launched from the lone star state

>>11936543
Nah It wont be like that Shitty weather is not gonna cause that and grumpy boomers are easier to deal with then crazy politicians

>>11936068
It's just the lighting.

>>11936407
Americans and their euphemisms. 'overpressure event' indeed. Why not just say 'there is a danger the rocket may explode'?

>>11936560
because the explosion isn't the dangerous part, the dangerous part is the shockwave

>>11936560
Not all overpressure events involve the ignition of explosive materials when it comes to rockets.

>>11936032
>Are we sure that his account hasn't been hacked again?
at this point being hacked would make his posting less weird, like boring shit about buttcoins

>>11934829
*user was nationalized for this post*

>>11936049
quit Sibelius

>>11936083
>>11936093
the Ayylamo

>>11935437
>New Armstrong by 2025.
how thicc is this going to be?

>>11936032
Nah he's probably playing up le based and redpilled image to suck up to trump. It's probably connected to the recent Texas Gigafactory announcement (Trump encouraged him to build it there: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-tesla-texas-told-elon-musk-build-factory-2020-7 )
It makes perfect sense because the recent "controversial" tweets reflect Trump's politics: stimulus bad, pronouns bad, "we will coup whoever we want" etc.

Any theories for when the hop will be?

>>11936583
when it's ready

I haven’t shitposted in a few weeks here what have been the thread topics?

>>11936630
hop when, mostly

>>11936011
Holy shit gigachad

>>11936630
space shittle

>morning
>sun rising
>ocean warming up
>storm gaining strength
CAT 2 CAT 2 CAT 2

>>11936080
found the incel

>>11936663
it takes time for that to work, you know

Does anyone know if any satellite (old or new) is open source/has released source code? Even if it's just a CubeSat.
Looking at the source for the AGC is fascinating, wondering if there is anything else like it.

Remember to have babies

>>11936788
Back in the 50s/60s "code" was handwritten and then converted into punch cards for general purpose computers. Most probes used non-general purpose computers (i.e. not programmable and not turing complete). Apollo LEM guidance system was the first small programmable computer.

>>11936814
There was a Soviet probe that died because of a coding error that caused it to fail to maintain attitude towards the sun to get solar power

>>11936814
I know, anon.
The AGC code available on github is typed up from the book specifications.
I was wondering if they released any others.

>>11936022
Looks like the rose is gone now, but he posted this while he had it I think.

SN5 static fire test, ostensibly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1Y65D5vyI

>>11936846
>testing with a hurricane just offshore
absolute madmen

>>11936847
Only a Cat-1. just hope they support the superhigh bay.

>>11936847
not even a hurricane but a tropical storm

>cop cars racing towards the rocket with lights on
what's happening

>>11936858
Hurricane Hanna Intermediate Advisory Number 10A...Corrected
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL082020
700 AM CDT Sat Jul 25 2020

Corrected header

...NOAA HURRICANE HUNTERS AND DOPPLER WEATHER RADARS FIND HANNA HAS
BECOME THE FIRST HURRICANE OF THE 2020 ATLANTIC HURRICANE SEASON...


SUMMARY OF 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...27.1N 96.0W
ABOUT 90 MI...150 KM ENE OF PORT MANSFIELD TEXAS
ABOUT 100 MI...160 KM ESE OF CORPUS CHRISTI TEXAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...982 MB...29.00 INCHES

STATIC FIRE TODAY WHOOOOOO

>>11936863
>max sustained 120 km/h
flip-anon here, that's nothing desu. we get rattled by around 17-20 a year

>>11936867
>road still isn't closed
nyeeeeeeet

>>11936867
Cancelled.

>wait months and months to hop
>finally schedule a time to hop
>random hurricane appears out of nowhere
this is why you dont procrastinate

No hop?

>road reopened
haaaahaaahaaahaahaahaaahaaa

more like scrubx amirite

ULAbros we won again

There's alot of spaceflight streams lately. Are there any 24 hour live streams covering spaceflight? Are we moving in that direction?

>>11936847
I've done work with a hurricane on the way in
I ended up leaving after the storm had arrived and raced it out basically
helped that I could just hop on I-26 and go straight out
>>11936879
yeah, no hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX_xXJWkTgQ

i found this weird stream

>>11936889
Labpadre has 3 cameras covering the boca chica build and test site 24/7

>>11936893
Rabbits have big claws and powerful legs.

>>11936896
I mean with commentary/analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

why the heck is nasa streaming right now

>>11936910
oh wait its nasa TV i'm dumb lol

>>11936910
NASA has a 24/7 TV channel
they stream it to youtube and a couple other places
it's typically all reruns

>>11936228
He's a Special Circumstances agent from The Culture

HOP STILL ON

>>11934757
Looks like it's about 5 hours now.
Note that they said the "July 25th window" is canceled, it'll be July 26 in Japan in about half an hour.

>>11936863
>The Little Hurricane that Could

static fire still on kek

>>11936937
Perhaps musk told the engineers to design everything for all types of weather. Didn’t he tweet that SS can launch in high wind etc? Putting that to the test

>the recent spacewalks actually set a record for places where past astronauts haven't reached before outside the ISS
>literally went over signs with the note "dead end"

>>11935988
Not entirely true English does pretty well against other languages
>The distribution of SR (in syllables per second) (left) and IR (in bits per second) (right) within the languages in our database (colored areas; colors represent the language families) and across them (black areas at the top) using a Gaussian kernel density estimate. The black vertical lines spanning the whole plot represent the means (solid lines) ± 1 SD (dashed lines). The short black vertical lines represent the actual data points.

>>11936948
>ywn go spelunking outside the spess station with your bros

>>11935988
That's common in Australian Aboriginal languages. Though they can still give directions.

As for the color thing, this is an interesting area in anthropological research. What you find is that most cultures/languages start off with the same couple of colors and develop the same ones later on. Most follow the same path of development, though the timing may be different.

>>11936949
absolute state of Thai

>>11935988
When I say “her”, I mean someone is biologically female, when I say “his”, I mean someone is biologically male. Trannies are insane

NSF livestream voice has a fucking awful speech impediment and I wish he would stop talking forever please now

>>11936668
>look mom I said the word again does that mean I get sex now?

>>11936949
What exactly is this measuring?

>>11936965
EDA often has a super HQ stream from the beach area. Just put both on a monitor and listen to echoes of bluemars. best option, commentary is dumb

>>11936967
left graph is syllables per second
right graph is bits per second

>>11936929
Gay relationship?
I don't remember that

>nitrous oxide tank
>butane tank
>one check valve each
>both into graphite nozzle

Would this work? Would this type of valve prevent backblast? I may use servo-actuated gas valves to control the thrust

>>11936936
Seeing as the previous one was somewhat well received, I tried doing something slightly more professional. Stealing clipart.

>>11936987
no lightning in a hurricane, anon
well, typically

>>11936993
I live in fucking Norway, what the fuck would I know about hurricanes, lol.

>>11936979
>Would this work?
You might need a pressure regulator for each tank before the check valve. Having a steeper pressure difference between the tank and chamber will drive the propellant flow better. What are you using for the ignition source?

>Would this type of valve prevent backblast?
It might, but I wouldn't rely on it. Instead focus on having injection velocities higher than 50 feet-per-second as to give the propellant enough momentum to go deep into the chamber. Also, make sure that the planned mass flow rate of your propellant is appropriate for the pressure the propellant would be by the time it reaches the chamber.

>I may use servo-actuated gas valves to control the thrust
Designing throttlability is very hard for a first timer. I suggest that you focus on making the engine work at one level of thrust first before considering a throttle.

This site has some extra information that you might find helpful.
http://risacher.org/rocket/

>>11937002
that's a big bell

>>11936979
I think you'd want to test first how much backflow pressure they can actually deal with, valves specifically like the one you posed are usually used in gasoline burning engine fuel lines, AC units, and other (relatively) low pressure work. The ribbed pin is meant to be stuck in flexible plastic hoses, any significant backflow pressure will pop them right back out. Figure out whatever your chamber pressure is, fill up a compressor or something until it's at that pressure, then subject your valve to it and if it doesn't leak or fail after a prolonged run it should be fine.
Also you should use threaded valves.

>>11937003
F1 is bigger.

>>11936159
I wouldn't worry too much.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lz8A1l_LuM

>>11936993
They do have lightning. I live in Miami.

Elon quote on Bezos:
>“The rate of progress is too slow and the amount of years he has left is not enough, but I’m still glad he’s doing what he’s doing with Blue Origin," Mr. Musk said
Interview out:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/25/style/elon-musk-maureen-dowd.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

>>11937003

>>11936944
>yfw they do the hop with the hurricane right on top of them
>"what do we care, we have a spare"

>>11937045
I lived in Charleston during that recent hurricane
now I live elsewhere in South Carolina. Hurricanes don't have lightning usually.
There were a few in a row that had lightning and nobody knows why.

>>11937048
>Why launch it in a storm, Elon?
>"Basically, ummm, I'm a huge uh fan of Apollo 12."

>>11937062
more like this, I think

>>11937058
Huh, I looked it up. You're right, has to do with horizontal winds dominating the updrafts that cause lightning.

>Chortling, he said. “I’m not that concerned about my DMs being made public. I mean, we can probably cherry pick some section of my DMs that sound bad out of context but overall my DMs mostly consist of swapping memes.”

>Mr. Musk continued, “Obama was great. Biden, I just don’t know. It’s hard to see through the noise. But is he — are all his mental faculties there or not? I can’t quite tell. It would be helpful to see him in a debate scenario or something like that. Does he have his stuff together or not? I can’t tell.”

>>11936973
So it measures the amount of information languages confer per syllable? Cool

>>11937045
Scroll down and skip the first third of the interview.

>>11937002
Vacuum optimized
>>11937026
Sea level optimized

If there were ever an F-1 vacuum variant its nozzle exit would be at least 8 meters wide

The weekends are dead for spaceflight.

>>11937254
I present to you the M-1.

>>11937264
The scary part is, that M1 illustration is still just a sea level optimized variant.

Why has nobody put up satellites for rent yet? Why launch your own when you can just rent some?

>>11937321
Nobody wants to rent them

>>11937321
Satellite internet service is renting.
Satellite imaging service is renting.

Seems like Artemis will be immune to the changing political winds of a new administration. When this is added on with the Japs signing onto a mission makes Artemis safe. I hope this will stop all the doomer posting, but I doubt it.

https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/2020/07/democrats-say-they-support-moon-mission-for-nasa.html

>>11937321
People do rent them though. Lots of companies pay to have certain areas looked at more closely by LEO imaging satellites.

Also a lot of GEO comsats are sold or bought by other companies while still active.

>>11937373
That is ... unexpected. I hope they stay true to their promise if they win.

>>11935925
... if pronouns didn‘t suck, progressives wouldn‘t try to come up with better ones all the time. Of course they suck. How is even Grimes reading this wrong?

>>11937373
>We support NASA's work to return Americans to the moon and go beyond to Mars, taking the
next step in exploring our solar system. Democrats additionally support strengthening NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Earth observation missions to better understand how climate change is impacting our home planet.

NASA takes charge of spaceflight and NOAA works on climate sats. So too much funding shouldn't be drawn from NASA to work on them.

>>11936304
Imagine the smell

>>11937381
I expect they will, the money is good for congressmen of all parties. Plus being able to shoot for a 2024 landing could buoy a re-election push. It makes good sense to me, politcally its a cheap slam dunk, since the majority of the grunt work was completed during the later-half Obama and all of Trump. Biden would be able to just sweep it up and nobody would remember that this has been a bi-partisan project when we get boots on regolith.

The key for continuing manned space exploration is getting gateway built so congress can't back out of future missions.

>>11937399
The key for continuing manned space exploration is >A FUCKING HOP

>>11937399
Makes sense.

It’s all dependent on Biden winning. I thought he had a good shot when unemployment was up but now it’s going down and plus all that BLM stuff going on. Also the debates, which will indeed happen I mean the parties have an agreement to dk it every cycle.

>>11937417
>Biden wins
>he ends Artemis and redirects all moon funding to Earth climate research
>SpaceX, untouchable due to self-sufficient funding and USAF support, lands a Starship on the moon
>it's highly publicized with lots of shitposting and memes
>everyone wonders why the US government couldn't do that
>Biden goes down as the president who tried to stop America from going to the moon
>Democrats get burned from this
>they're forced to take on a pro-space platform in order to have a chance in elections
>both parties start trying to out-space each other
>American boots on every celestial body
Blessed timeline?

>>11937417
Honestly, It's hard to see a scenario when Biden doesn't win. Just look at Donnie's margin of victory in 2016. 80,000 people in 3 states decided that election. Now factor in double digit unemployment, 150,000 dead folks, and the usual blowback against incumbents.

Infact the BLM stuff will probably help him, its fired up the AA demographic which is a keypart in winning PA and MI, after that he just needs 1 more state among WI, AZ, NC, GA, FL, or OH. Thats a lot of opportunities to pull a win off, and thats a wide range of demo's and states that Trump has to defend and if Biden snipes a single one its a Biden win.

>>11937430
Dem's wont cut funding, but your closer to the mark that once we demonstrate to the public and the politicians that there can be value in space exploration, we could get into an out-spacing cycle. For the past 50 fucking years all we've done is jerk off in LEO, once we start talking HD videos on the moon, and doing new stuff, I bet we could see a public shift in favor of Space Exploration. Ever since we got Neil Armstrong on the moon the public has never given a shit about space so the politicians haven't either, if memElon can tank launch costs and start doing things I expect the public will start to give a shit again.

>>11937434
Hillary was also polling way ahead of Trump right up until election time.

I'd give Biden better odds than Trump, but absolutely anything can happen in between now and the election.

>>11937444
She wasn't as ahead as everyone thinks, compared to Biden. Plus, the polls were correct, at least the national ones, there weren't too many state polls taken, this cycle has been nothing, but battleground state polls. I'm sure the race will tighten as some undecided flow back to Donnie, but there's a big difference between running as a candidate and running as an incumbent, and whether its right or wrong the majority of undecided voters just look at their current circumstances to decide if they like the guy in charge or they don't. Right now, circumstances aren't great and don't look like they will be getting better. So the majority of the grillers will be taking a critical role of whose been the quarterback during this time. Donnie could still pull a win, but its way fucking harder than it was in 2016 by at least a magnitude. Either way we should be set on the budget's for space exploration.

>>11937444
Biden wont win, with the support he has now. Democrats need overwhelming media support + crushing poll support. Crushing poll is needed because we have to eliminate half that for no-shows in Democrats.

>>11937444
Elections are not popularity contests.

>caring which zogbot becomes leader of the united states of zionism

>>11937542
Accelerate yourself off the nearest cliff doomer.

Reminder that doomerism is for filthy Dirters who have no destiny among the stars.

Rate this planet. I've looked at pictures of Earth for so long it's kind of become boring... but in the grand scheme of things it's actually such a beautiful place especially compared to all the other dead rocks out there

>>11937588
I wanna see it while on mars

>>11937588
7.8/10 Too much water

>>11937373
Artemis became unkillable when Gateway became unkillable.

>>11937605
Just yeet gateway modules on expendble Falcon Heavy

>>11937609
That's already the current plan tho

>>11937588
>literally Goldilocks temperature for carbon based life
>has no blatant deficiency of resources apart from the really exotic stuff
>big enough to retain an atmosphere but not so big that you'd need a Sea Dragon to send a Mercury capsule to low orbit
>has a large moon to maintain axial tilt and plate tectonics
>the moon also serves as a convenient halfway station to the rest of the system
>full eclipses
>has tons of energy stored just below the surface in the form of oil and coal
>but solar is still viable

8/10, could be better in some ways (easier to get off of, more moons would be nice, maybe a twin or so), but it's better for habitation than 99.9% of the other celestial bodies.

/pol/ shills gtfo

>>11937618
Is the anti-Elon shilling that bad to you?

>>11937588
Habitable/10, there's nothing even remotely comparable until we find a new one and also have developed the drive technology to reach it in a useful timescale. The discovery of other Earth-like worlds is inevitable once telescopy improves, but until we can build something like a fusion-assist ramjet or antimatter drive looking at them is all we'd be able to do.

>>11937621
It was a year or two ago. Those don't get hit much anymore.

>>11936304
We need either compact fusion or significantly better rules about fission reactors in space, both for propulsion to get there in a reasonable time and for power generation after arrival.

>>11937616
this planet sounds based af

>>11937624
Oh right, when the jewish media went after him hard.

>>11937321
AWS rents out time on ground stations

Hey Tim u are like my real mentor.
You inspired me to study real hard in 10th to get science and I really want to join ISRO (Indian space research organisation) after college.
Thank you for Bringing down space on earth

>>11937637
I hope that shill lost his shorts, if you know what I mean.

>>11937622
Bussard ramjets aren't worth it. Their maximum speed is 0.12c and require working proton-proton fusion, at which point you can just use a regular fusion rocket with better payload fraction. The magnetic ramscoop acting as a drag device is what led to the magsail concept.

fuck urf

>>11937672
>jellybaby.

>>11937686
just spin bro

>>11937698
Give this man a subscription to Gainz Station 13.

>>11934757
>>11934757
>>11934757
get in here lads it's 始まります
T-43 minutes

>>11937704
Is this another smallsat company like rocket lab? Except from moonland

>>11937707
They also have a cute mascot.

>>11937647
That's why I specifically said "fusion-assist ramjet" and not just ramjet. A fusion assist ramjet is basically a ramjet with an afterburner, past .1/.2C when the ramscooping process starts causing too much drag the drive begins to consume fuel pellets along with interstellar hydrogen.
If magsails turn out to be functional though, all the better. Until we build anything remotely like those drives though, I don't have a huge interest in habitable exoplanets, because staring at them from a few lightyears distance isn't going to do anything immediately beneficial to humanity.

>>11937711
>"Interstellar" Technologies
>only launches small SATs into LEO

>>11937735
It's a sounding rocket lmao

>>11937735
Its about the dream. Anon

>ethalox
>sponsored by a sake brewery
It's sake-powered! Sasuga Nippon!

When Starship production ramps up, will it look like this, but on a larger scale?

>>11937768
No, it'll be vertical integration with assembly lines.

>>11937768
And they will have Powerhouse on continuous repeat play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23jdesvCoOY

Hold due to boats lmao

T-1:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWfNw2-i64

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

Assembly line robots sighted at boca chica

Boats lol

>>11937803
this was a while ago

Most beautiful pictures from the surface of another world?

For me, it’s MINERVA-II-1B on Ryugu

The cope from scott manley today is making me laugh

>>11937837
What's he done now?

>>11937842
He’s trying to claim he is suddenly “not an Elon fanboy” because of the stuff Musk has been tweeting recently

>>11937845
God Scott’s such a faggot. I used to love him up until earlier this year when he started getting way more faggy and liberal.

It’s gotten worse. I remember he had a video like defending Obama for doing budget cuts on NASA, recently starting liking anti-Trump tweets.

>>11937845
>trying to claim he is suddenly “not an Elon fanboy”
I'm pretty sure he never claimed to be an Elon fanboy or whatever. But why do you care so much? This general is not about e-celebs.

t. Totally not Scott Manley

>>11937847
Remember Anon, a leftoid's very existence as a person is contingent on holding the same political and social views as the entire hive of other leftoids, if they deviate too far their fellow cultists will literally stop viewing them as a human being.
Any individual leftoid's accomplishments, positive or negative are completely irrelevant to other leftoids compared to whether or not they have the "correct" viewpoints which perfectly align with the collective's.
This is why all of a sudden people who seem at face value to be rational, friendly, and civil, with at times randomly degenerate into complete retards with utterly delusional beliefs, or behave or advocate for ethics which would strike any sane person as barbaric or completely contradictory to that person's normal behavior.
Scott has to step into line with the radicals now that the elections are looming, not matter what retarded shit they say, or the lefties that surround him will rapidly find or simply invent an excuse to ostracize him, and if possible ruin his life and career.

Were it not for the few people still desperately working to maintain civilization, leftiods would be ripping each-other limb from limb in the streets over differences in hair style, clothing, and other retarded shit nobody intelligent or productive cares about.

>>11937874
We're going to need more helicopters.

>>11937817

>>11937890
A lot more

>>11937874
Honestly Biden winning is probably every Doomer/Accelerationists dream. They just don’t know it.

>Biden wins
>Diverts more illegal immigrants into Texas
>Texas turns blue 2024
>Democrats guaranteed to win every election ever at this point
>Welfare goes through the roof
>Taxes are insanely high now to pay for social programs
>What now?

I wonder if there would be a breaking point. Or would people just put up with it forever. Would the US rebel against itself again?

>>11937572
their souls are weighed down by gravity

>>11937905
Sure, a successful revolt only requires maybe 10-20% of the population to be doing anything, governments are actually hopeless against any significantly organized social upheaval. That fraction is probably even lower now that absolutely critical infrastructure is so heavily centralized and so vulnerable to disruption.
This will eventually become a major issue in space colonies or particularly large ships too, as even a small portion of the population could, with the right incentive, hold the entire remaining 90% of the population hostage if they can just seize control of life systems, or the power grid. Multiple redundant systems should be strongly incentivised to prevent such situations from happening.

>>11937905
Yes, everyone getting thrown in jail for making an edgy comment online sounds like a dream. Accelerationism is retarded. No one's going to wake up. Our lives are just going to get unimaginably worse

>>11934460
>Europe
Cars
>Japan
Trains
>America
Air/Space craft

How true is this?

>>11937944
Add trucks and aircraft carriers to the US.

>>11937944
Nah, Japan also do cars.

>>11937944
>Japan
Trains and MOMO

>>11937905
SPACE.
FLIGHT.
kys shill

>>11937944
>Europe
White flags, gay porn
>Japan
Animation, electronics
>America
Aircrafts, spacecrafts, cars, tiger blood

>>11937944
I don't get it. That's a list of... ?

MOMO launch back on

>>11938031
Lol. Scrubbed. Fuck boats

>>11938031
What happened this time? Once the boat was gone, they reset the clock to just over an hour, and just now reset it to 4 hours.
Also fuck boats.

>>11938045
>>11938041
>scrubbed because of a boat
How the fuck don't they have the ability to put up a notice of no fucking boats and fine those who don't respect it

>>11938049
Back in the 90s Japan used to only be able to launch for like 4 months a year because of fishing season so it’s pretty common over there.