/sci/ - Science & Math

ahem
>fuck nurses
>fuck masks
>fuck the second wave
>fuck old people
>fuck women
>fuck dyels

>>11919457
I’m going to college in August. I’m doing Pre-Med. Do you guys have any tips on work and whatnot? Thanks.

>>11919467
Don't do premed and don't tell people you are premed

Guys do you think stem cells will have the potential to make one's cock bigger?

>>11919473
>implying we would ever share the secrets of big dicks

>>11919473
Just implant HeLa cells into your penis and fuck bitches with your monstrous tumour cock

guys, i've been thinking about quitting work and becoming a professional Dj, opinions

>>11919511
Dubs checked

If it's your passion and if you think medicine will make you miserable and you're in a financially secure position to do so... Then do it

I've been thinking about switching careers from medicine lately too (senior med student here). Something about how this field doesn't seem like what I thought it would be, and the fact that maybe my interests lie in other areas. And it's made me think more deeply about the fact that we have only one life to live on this planet, so it's better to live it the way that makes you happy than to strive to some false goal. Obviously doesn't apply to everyone but yeah. Rambling on now so I'll stop.

>>11919511
>professional Dj
are you black?

>>11919457
>discuss fmedicine
BASED

>>11919466
>fuck old people
Why? Older males are really fun as patients and crack a lot of jokes.

>>11919467
>premed
kek

>>11919539
>Older males are really fun as patients
>wow instead of solving one diagnosis you have to deal with 30 years of fucked liver+fucked kidneys+fucked heart and now he's in with pneumonia

>>11919539
GP take
>>11919547
ICU take

>>11919494
Would that technically count for BBC?

>>11919466
BASED

>>11919467
>premed

Are you lost ?

>>11919547
I agree with you on that. They usually have comorbidities but they're pretty fun when they come in for a refill prescription, a simple consult or to bring you the letter from the specialist and tell you what happened.

Idk, I like having them as my patients. For me is: Children > Babies > Geriatrics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young adults >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Powergap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adults

>>11919457
threads going pretty fast these days

>>11919786
for me: Geriatrics > Children > Babies > Young adults = Adults
something about adults is simply not comfy but can’t put my finger on it.

>>11919819
Based ranking. I feel the same way, adults are really boring to deal with but I don't really have a reason why I feel this way towards them.

>>11919819
>>11919786
what specialty are you two weirdos?

>>11919904
6th year medical student aiming for Peds > Neonatology > FM.

>>11919912
I just don't understand how anyone can dislike young adult-adult patients who
a)can clearly explain their issues and symptoms and medical history, unlike babbies and senile/alzheimer boomers
>b-but talk to the mom/relative
i'd rather talk to the patient if i have a choice
b)aren't unpleasant to touch/can stay still and obey commands for manipulations, unlike babbies and senile old people
I'm just finishing my internship(non-American, i guess it's residency-equivalent) in anesthesiology, and 20-40 year olds are my favourite, because I can easily and clearly extract the information I need, and be sure that they understand my instructions in return.

>>11919952
You're right, not going to argue with that, but I simply like them much less than the elderly and kids. For me adults are from 30 - 65 (retirement).

The reason I probably dislike them, if I have to choose one, is because most of the boomers from 40 to 60 just discovered the internet because how easily accessible is nowadays and believe all the shit they read.

I know that the elderly can rant for hours and kids/adolescents lie a lot, but they're much more easier to deal with, imo. Usually old people don't have someone to talk to so they just need reassurance and a few nice words. Give kids some stickers and they'll stay put and treat adolescents like adults because that's how they want to be perceived.

It's really easy, I just prefer those over adults even if it's objectively easier to deal with them, but it's also kind of boring. Kids and old people make me happy.

I forgot how tiring the ER is
got my ass handed to me today
have not slept this much in so long and basically can't feel my legs anymore

>>11919995
Whoops, now that I re-read it, I kind of contradict myself. Don't mind the:

>but they're much more easier to deal with, imo.

>>11919999
at least you got quad nines for your hard work

>>11919999
Checked

>>11919995
I can say that I respect and appreciate people like you though, because I myself can't imagine dealing with <14 y.o. kids, especially in serious shit like surgery or ICU

>>11919457
Is there a way to make your penis bigger?

>>11920031
Thanks but you don't have to, I'm merely sitting on my ass waiting for this whole shit to end so I can start residency. If anything, I appreciate you for working during the pandemic, the stress in the beginning must've been enormous.

>>11920053
Eat pic related.

>>11919560
hahaha

Anesthesiology-reanimatology or emergency medicine?

>>11920148
>reanimatology
Which country still calls it that? Russia?

>>11920152
It's a post-soviet block country. I think it's pretty common in Eastern Europe

>>11919999
you got filtered, better start grinding that vo2 max and lifting

>>11920183
I jog daily and workout 3 times a week
what destroyed me is just standing up for unbelievable amounts of time. I was standing up for like 6 hours with like 5 minutes total of intermittent sitting
My knees eventually gave up on me

Moral of the story is, don't skip leg day

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31604-4/fulltext
thoughts?

>>11920163
I'm from Eastern Europe and I never heard of reanimatology wtf is that.

>>11920163
I know that it was the Soviet name, but in Ukraine they renamed it to 'intensive care' in line with the West, which is why it sounded interesting to me that some country kept the old name, and why I guessed Russia(maybe Belarus?).
If you're from ex-USSR, I'd pick anaesthe obviously, because it's both comfier and there's more money in it - if you can get into it.

>>11920201
>I was standing up for like 6 hours
why though? what were you doing that there was 0 break time?
tell us your cool stories, anon

>>11920207
>>11920210
If you're interested the term is still used in Lithuania. I'm pretty sure it is used in other Baltic countries as well. Term "Intensive care" is present but generally the residency is called "Anesthesiology-reanimatology".

>>11920204
I don't know the pharma/research side of things, but I think it takes a long ass time from chimp trials to mass human use.

>>11920259
i don't know either but they are already in phase 3 (human trials)

>>11920234
it's a training period and this year we have no particular goals except re experience what we studied
so I'm just going around looking for any patients with really bad cases so I can get to see complex procedures to try and learn
There was a central venous catheter
There was a urinary catheter on a female (only saw males to this point)
There was a cerebrospinal fluid extraction
I was also looking at every blood drawing for arterial blood gas because I really don't want to fuck that one procedure up
After all that I'd come back to where my mates are hanging out and every sitting spot would be already taken so I'd just go for a walk around or just stand up and chat
Oh also rounds were extremely long this morning

>>11920361
oh there was also a heart attack with a VF rythm
lol that's like the best case this day

>>11919457
Why can't I build muscle?!

>>11920465
low t

>>11912870
funni thread

What is the future like for Radiologists? I'm scared of redundancy.

I read a study showing that some crazy high percentage of people had no detectable IgG antibodies after a few months with some losing them after a few weeks. Yet I still hear it being said that it’s unknown whether people will be immune for life or something equivalent like if there will be another wave. Is there other ways in which you can be immune?

Good morning, frens.

>>11921322
It's good, what are you concerned about? AI taking over? Not going to happen.

>>11921943
good morning bud

posting this while in rounds
slacking sure is fun

>>11921977
Rest is important, anon.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26239092/

Post primary care stuff. Idk what to read anymore just to keep my mind a bit engaged on medicine.

https://www.aafp.org/afp/topicModules/viewAll.htm
https://fpnotebook.com/

Resources for FM guidelines, can't get more basic than this if you guys are interested.

>>11922009
Why not read textbooks.
CURRENT series is great for primary care.

>>11922009
When step 1 goes p/f do you reckon it will still be doable to get into FM as an IMG?

>>11921943
Good morning. It's my psychiatry final tomorrow. I can't fucking wait till Monday.

As an only child who barely had contact with extended family, how the fuck do I deal with paediatric patients? Little shits either just don't listen to me and since I'm big they get so intimidated they go mute. I try to put on a friendly voice and talk to them about all sorts of dumb kid stuff but it rarely works. Please help me /med/.

Does catching the cold during COVID times mean that the lockdown is not working?

I have been in lockdown since March.
I caught the cold twice, once at the end of May and once again now. This is normal for me. But this should not be happening during COVID lockdown, no?

I have basically zero interaction with other people. I just go to the store to buy food twice a week, wearing a mask and don't talk to anyone.

Based or cringe?
He's got pretty interesting cases, but I wish he wouldn't spend 60% of every video explaining med vocab and other basic ass shit to normies.

>>11922049
I've got plenty of textbooks. In fact I'll post them in a few mins just to flex lmao.

Jokes aside, I've read most of the textbooks I have. I'd rather read some short papers, it's more time effective imo.

>>11922054
Not in US, no idea.

>>11922081
I'm bald, 183cm but somehow I'm doing great with kids. In the beginning I thought it was going to be really hard but looks like it wasn't hard at all.

Kids from 4-10 are fine to deal with in a childish manner, like "Wow, that's a nice toy, do you like superman, etc" but from 12-18 when puberty starts to kick in, treat them like adults, it's really easy but they lie, so everything they say, you take with a grain of salt because they might be embarrassed.

For example, when I was on peds rotation, I had a 14 year old girl that complained of lumbar pain, Giordano was positive, but it ended up all being made up by her because she needed attention. Her parents were working in another country and she was staying with her grandparents, that's why it's very important to ask about relatives, relationship with the family, etc.

In the end, just don't try too hard and always smile to kids. My prof was a little old man in his 50s, the good old classic grandad figure, super kind and understanding but very strict on children's behaviour. (He's a pediatrician that specializes in Diabetes and metabolic disorders and every single morning, he'd go into the diabetic ward and make the kids open up the drawers of their nightstands and check for sweets and such). As I said, don't sweat it and be postive.

>>11922112
Imo, it's based. I like his long videos and I recently watched the nutmeg intoxication one which I found really interesting and had no idea that it would cause hallucinations in big doses.

>>11922128
>fine to deal with in a childish manner
I get that, but I always feel creepy and awkward when I try to act it out. I have literally never had to deal with children in my life up till now. And how do you calm a kid down who's screaming and thrashing etc?

>>11919904
just finished med school aiming for general surgery

>>11919952
>unpleasant to touch
you chose wrong profession

>tfw almost at the end of my rad tech training and not even sure I want to do this as a career

>>11919999
checkerino. anything interesting happened on shift?

Part one of my textbooks/atlases/other. What's in green is /med/

>>11922133
Tbqh, I barely had any children that went ballistic while consulting them. Most of the kids were understanding and didn't fear me and if they feared me, I usually put my stethoscope on their leg and tell them "See, it doesn't hurt" and they would calm down.

When auscultating and they get uncomfortable if you take a long ass time to listen to their heart, then just move the stethoscope around a bit. I like to put it on their forehead and say "Wow, you're a smart one". It sounds super cringe now that I write it down, but it's what it worked.

So the short answer is to keep them busy. Youtube videos, toys, stickers and many more. Btw, always bring stickers to peds ward.

>>11920053
by letting go of puny desires your spiritual penis will grow huge

>>11922164
Shit. That was part two lol. Mostly primary care and peds.

Here, everything that's in green is /med/

>>11920201
lmao thats fate of surgeons why would you stand for so long in ER? ER is more about moving around most of the time

>>11920465
Why can’t I build muscle?!

>>11921322
don’t worry nothing worthwhile that could take away your job will happen in your lifetime i guarantee.

>>11921344
yes.

>>11922112
is that the chink guy? pretty interesting videos for sure.

>>11922168
wow jealous this rich shithead

>>11922192
>rich
Kek, I wish

Old textbooks are from my mother and you can see that they make up 70% of it lmao.

I always thought this general is all rich american fags, but so many various euros here

>>11922112
He's p. based. Medlife Crisis is another good one, too.

>>11922158
Why not? It's pretty comfy, especially if you work in rad/onc.

Any treatment for fat people? Asking 4chan doctors.

>>11922624
Diet. You can literally lose weight from diet alone.

>>11922626
I asked for pills and surgery not some witchcraft

>>11922628
Why tackle it with meds and surgery when you can have the same results from dieting alone? Stop being a lazy fuck and make that belly jiggle a bit instead.

>>11922647
not an argument doc. It's time for your license cancel.

>>11922242
>first video preaching some medicine is racist shit

Yeah Im good.

>>11922650
Oh noes!

Bait aside, for these kind of minor things holistic approach is the best.

>>11922653
so you are going to let me die of fat overdose?

>>11922663
No, not really. I'm going to ask about your mental health, daily intake, etc. and conclude with a plan of your diet.

If you don't change or if you don't stick to the diet or if you're lying to me, you're free to visit another doctor, simple as.

>>11922673
>>11922663
I say you should adopt a diet and walk more
>t. another doctor

>>11922673
>>11922681
Okay tell me the diet. Right now.

>>11922681
based.
>>11922685
No. $100 first and then we talk. (+tip ofc)

>>11922691
Im not from Poopmerica so my medical bill is trasfered to insurance company who will simlpy pay it off.

>>11922691
High carb and low fat + protein.

>>11922698
You wouldnt last as a doctor even a single day

>>11922698
Cringe

>>11920152
Here in Italy it is called "Anestesia e Rianimazione" (but it's really 4 branches of specializations in 1: anesthesia, ICU, pain treatment and reanimation/ER)

>31 degrees
>stay under AC at 16 degrees with hoodie on

How do you cope with the heat, bros?

My gf got her MCAT score back today and got a 517. She’s got a 3.98. Where should she apply. She’s white btw not sure if that matters.

>>11922920
To medical school.

Senior with a biology major here
taking the MCAT on thursday
wish me luck and remember to MURDER ALL PHYSICISTS

>>11922920
Tits or gtfo

>>11922920
Anywhere, depending on the rest of her application. That's very competitive.

>>11922945
Idk why but that pic always makes me kek. Based benis :DDDDD

>>11922943
Good luck, dummy premed.

>>11922953
thangs anon :D
Can't wait to go to medical school and touch a cadaver's booty ehehe

>>11922956
>can't wait to go to medical school
Damn, premeds are so innocent these days.

>>11922956
>cadaver's booty ehehe

Fuck pre meds

>>11922966
Would someone bother to go to school, apply to graduate school, take entrance exams, and put their young adulthood on the shelf for an education they didn't want?

What kind of useless retard would do something like that? Please tell me nobody here is this stupid

>>11922991
What. I was just referring to the fact that it's overhyped you dummy. You'll soon feel miserable and can't wait to finish medical school.

>>11923000
Oh, sorry anon, I misinterpreted. Bit touchy this week. Nerves.

>>11922179
I can't build muscle

>>11923018
Don't be sorry, my man. Best of luck and take care of yourself!

Any interesting stories this morning/last night?

>>11919467
Don't do premed, study something you like and just fulfull the prereqs for the medical school you want. Some suggestions of fun.interesting stuff to study

>Forestry
>Neuroscience
>English literature
>History
>Music

Premeds are all fags, don't tell people you are premed, don't join the premed club, accept that you know nothing and listen to older more experienced people.

>>11922698
based

>2020
>going to medschool

just start a rap group with your friend or become a dj, money for nothing

>>11923417
Wat do if I like folk music instead? I can't play the guitar and my voice is also shit. I'd rather do medicine instead.

>>11921344
Bump? I mean I get medfags aren’t researchers but I mean even an opinion based on someone who knows how the immune system works would be helpful. Wait, do doctors even need to know the detailed mechanism of action of immunology or are they just taught how to treat? For example, I used to work as an electrician and you can wire up a house with zero knowledge of electrons and that was was in fact the case with everyone I worked with. Is the same relationship true of doctors and the medicines they use?

>>11923457
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554776/

Don't make us write a thesis as a response. Here you have everything about corona-chan's structure and mechanisms in a single paper. I have no idea what are you asking in the first place.

>>11923475
Why would you think a link answers the question if you don’t even understand what even being asked. Aside from that I thought it was a very simple question even if I got a little sidetracked. Why does long term immunity still seem like an open question despite the study showing very clearly that most people will lose IgGs fairly quickly? What are the other immunity factors not being accounted for?

>>11923457
Are you asking if someone can have memory b-cells without significant serum antibody against Sars-CoV2?
I think so; not a doctor but I took immunology

Antibodies are products of effector immune cells, they aren't even cells.

It's been a while, but I think it's
antigen > t cell > naive b cell > plasma cells (secrete antibodies, undergo affinity maturation) + memory b cells (more immediate response to subsequent infections).

Anyone's welcome to correct me, I could be wrong, but this is what I remember.

>>11923486
The question is shit. What are we even talking about. What infection? IgG duration depends on the pathogen.

>>11923508
Not that dude but I feel like it's pretty obviously about covid

>>11923308
There is no worser title than being premed.

>All excited about being a doctor like a 5yo kid playing dress up.

You look like a fool and dont know shit.

>>11923509
Okay, the question is still shit. What's up with the IgG? What's the open question about it? What study?

Why would someone speculate on something they haven't even read? I have no idea what study is he talking about or where is this question going?

>>11923486
Are you asking why IgGs are relevant after a corona infection despite losing them "fairly quickly"?

>>11923544
Agreed. Every single insufferable cunt I have met in undergrad was premed.

>>11923544
I'm the biology student above, and I had this perception my entire undergraduate experience.
People who identify as "Premeds":
1) Annoying
2) Frequently bad students
3) Culty
4) Unearned superiority complex
Haven't joined a single pre-med group. Go to class, cook dinner for the missus, study, and work with a hospice for experience with patients.

>>11923553
I'm an English literature major who would like to go to medical school. Taking the prerequisite requirements like biology also gave me the same impression. Everyone who labeled themselves as premed was a complete narcissist and generally just shitty.

>>11923490
>Are you asking if someone can have memory b-cells without significant serum antibody against Sars-CoV2?
Well I was asking in a general as someone with little understanding of immunology, but yes this would be an example. Let’s suppose there was an ethical way to study this response and it was found to be as slow as the initial infection, how many more studies would it take to discount long term immunity with a reasonable degree of certainty? I guess what I’m asking in general is how many different major pathways are there to immunization.

>>11923553
>Go to class, cook dinner for the missus, study, and work with a hospice for experience with patients.

The right way to do it. Have a laugh, have fun, be human.

And as always fuck pre-meds

>>11923566
You're asking questions that make incorrect assumptions about how immune responses work, which is going to only lead to more confusion until you take the time to learn some immunology or take someone else's word for it. I recommend the former.
You're asking questions leading to more questions leading to more questions. You probably have a strong interest in immunology, you should go learn it you'll probably enjoy the content immensely.

I will not take the time to explain the concepts in immunology, virology, and cellular biology necessary to answer your questions, please understand I don't say this to be mean; you should pirate some textbooks and read them.

To answer bluntly:
>Response as slow as the initial response to infection
Secondary responses are always faster and stronger
>Discount long term immunity
The virus would need to mutate enough to escape your immune system's defenses which, in Coronaviridae, is a slow process (more so than the flu by orders upon orders of magnitude due to differences in virus family genome) or somehow infect you after your memory B cells have died (This is one reason people get booster shots, the other being hypermutation and affinity maturation)
>Major pathways to immunization
There is only one that I know of.

Premed bashing galore in thread...all I can say is keep it up bros. All premeds must be beaten and taught a lesson.

Fuck premeds
Fuck gunners
Fuck gunner premeds

>>11923646
what are gunners? Arsenal fans?

>>11923648
>pre med detected

>>11923648
Gunners traditionally refer to medical students who have a massive god complex, think they are smarter and better than everyone else in their class and are "gunning" for an ultra-competitive specialty to match to, such as neurosurgery, plastic surgery, dermatology, etc. 99% of the time reality comes along, bitchslaps them in the face and then they just end up matching to FM or IM and become bitchy, narcissistic, faggots who are hated by all their patients until one day because of their own arrogance they fuck up and get sued for medical malpractice.

>>11923648
premed fingers wrote this post.

>>11923646
>tfw when you outpace the gunners by being far smarter while doing no work, causing them endless anguish

>>11923646
Would you like to watch her med school journey on instagram?

>>11923777
Bio if anyone is curious made me cringe

>>11923777
>>11923781
Psychbros, lobby for classifying narcissism as mental illness

>>11923777
I would like to journey inside her, if you catch my meaning

>>11923811
I unironically think that all medical schools need to implement autist filter tests like Casper and also other psychometric tests that detect dark triad personality traits. This woman is going to be overseeing people's health one day, let that sink in.

>>11923777
>>11923781
What the fuck lmao. Sadly, she will probably end up doing derm. She just has to suck the right dick.

>>11923821
dare I say...based?

>>11923836
kek yeah definitely. The lack of self awareness is seriously a major red flag.

>>11923836
lack of reality

>>11923821
Quite based and thotpilled

>>11923825
You are fucking stupid if you think those can actually filter anybody.

>>11924042
>>11924042
They can, and do. There are methods that certain psychometric tests can implement to detect deception. Certain individuals may be able to get past it but most probably won't. Casper is difficult to prepare for because you have a 5-minute timer and the questions are always unpredictable. But it generally gives adcoms a good idea of your character. Regardless, the issue is that there needs to be more scrutinization of applicant personality traits. I've known of people who set up fake organizations/websites/volunteer hours all to inflate their applications. It's incredibly fucked.

>>11924042
lol did someone fuck up casper?

>>11924064
Dude we are not talking about average people here, more like two sigmas, probably smarter if they made it that far while being autistic or a psychopath. Especially when they know they'll be taking it beforehand. We once researched implementing a modified MMPI with over 2000 questions, but found out that people in the best 5%of IQ can reliably still cheat on it. If given a few sentences on what the optimal profile was the test became completely meaningless in filtering. This thinking that you can accurately and cheaply judge character lead into using these shitty measures currently in place.

You should just implement a standardized test that tests IQ, the ability to work under pressure and knowledge on the required prerequisite stuff. Rank purely based on that and let the school filter out the rest, the impulsive shitty people will implode in practice and as for the rest, well there is no way of reliably detecting them.

>>11922920
she should apply on my dick

>>11924197
Link to the MMPI study for curiosity? I get what you're saying but I am not referring to the MMPI or MMPI 2. I am confident there are better ways to quantify personality traits for medicine. Also I think infants born with brains indicative of psychopathy should be eradicated. Fix the problem at the source as they say.

>>11923486
just get out of my thread you normalfag

>>11923777
Dooooont im horny and virgin and also checked

I had the question.
What structures on the surface of gonorrhoea pathogen contain proteases?

My answer fimbriea
Their answer Pili

Is this shit correct?

>>11924210
I don't think it's published anywhere, it was a part of project for creating a new selection process for a military academy (not the US).

I looked at CASPer and this seems like a thing that would be pretty easy to cheat, especially if you were to prep for it. Again, dumb and/or impulsive people wouldn't make it, but they can be filtered by pretty much anything. Also this murky subjective review stuff wouldn't fly here, especially if the test is used to do more than just screen people i.e. evaluate people who passed in relation to each other. This use would also pose some other problems; people's personalities tend to evolve for pretty long and stuff like social skills get better with practice, there is really no single optimal combination of personality traits for being a doctor, because the types of jobs that you might end vary so much: someone will always look at slides or images alone etc, and finally this really can't simulate the kinds of stresses people will actually encounter: plenty of people who seem to have perfect people skills crack and become assholes when they have stayed awake for a day or two, while awkward dude might just stay as an awkward dude. Thus selecting for cognitive abilities and diligence, and then filtering out people who absolutely are not suitable in school or in residency programs seems like the best way to me, as more thorough methods are prohibitively expensive and time consuming.

I don't see anything wrong with psychopaths who actually play out the role of a decent person for their entire life and I don't really trust our ability to pick them out with imaging in general. Actions are judgeable, what happens inside someones head is their business.

premeds are superior to all of you in this thread

>>11924361
Well royaly fucked this up lads. Im an ISTP-T personality guess ER is my destiny.

>>11924361
buddy this is not the horoscope thread

>aside from actual fags and schizos

doctors shill schizo meds because you get labelled and its hard to kill them

help me kill them.
help me to kill these grade scraping losers who aggrandize themselves in this little cartel

>>11924064
test malingering becomes harder to detect when you are writing and responding rather than ticking a box. the CASPer is complete shit. I did it. It is absolute trash with shit actors in the most mundane "ethical" scenarios where there is a very easy "right" response, but a realistic response is to just not give a shit. It's also heavily reliant on typing speed as opposed to thinking process. Anyone who is an older applicant or not as quick on a keyboard is disadvatanged by virtue of design and not their level of empathy or emotional intelligence.

>>11923777
i can see a post now
>finals week...bring it on (pumped arm emoji)
>photo of notebook, various textbooks and 80 shades of highlighting with coloured pens all over the book and a coffee in the corner of the screen

>>11924472
kek this is accurate

>>11924472
Don't forget the sponsorship with Figs and dumb bullshit supplements.

>>11924472
Holy shit you just described my "pre-med life" friend exactly

>>11924472
Dont forget, OMG totally failed that exam

is "pre-med" an actual degree, or is it just what retards call themselves when they're getting their microbiology degree and plan to apply to medical school

>>11924584
Haha yeah literally people who are not doctors, not even medical students, who feel self entitled to become a doctor and its their destiny. Their poor attitude leads them to never manifest a true desire for med or hard work so they usually get fucked in the long run.

>>11919457
Are SSRI's really a massive meme?
Are there any anti-depressants on the market currently that focus entirely on the promotion of neurogenesis?

>>11924773
SNRIs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SSRIs

Any Canadians here?

>>11925042
Yes, how's it going? BC here.

hey /med/,
I'm coming from the research side of things and was wondering how likely any physicians would be to ok this. My grandma (/fat/ elderly) recently had an operation and I'd (late 20s /fit/ male) like to give a blood transfusion to her to aid recovery.
I'm worried they'll think I'm talking about the shit Alkahest and Ambrosia were doing where it showed no significant results in otherwise healthy individuals.
When it comes to actual healing there's exosomes and other shit which show legitimate benefits, there's just none on the market now that I could get for her.

>>11925054
Noice, ON here. Are you guys in BC as worried about caarms as we are?

>>11925070
Nah I'm not in the MD program (at least yet). Hoping to get into U of C or Mac next year. I heard caarms interviews are gonna be virtual for you guys though. Do you feel that's gonna be worse for you?

Eye-twitch nigger here. Could pic related of triggered my eye twitching? I'm not sure if this was the cause but my eyes have been extremely dried out.
This stuff also made me feel very spaced out and gave me foggy eyes.

FUCK micro
FUCK path
FUCK pharm
FUCK step 1

Good morning, /med/.

>>11924367
Lmao based retard. Pic related must be you.

>>11924472
>#doctor
>#savinglives
>pic with Krebs cycle
Do premeds really...?

>>11925062
doctors live in perpetual fear of a lawsuit, so no they're not going to try that
they don't take orders from you unless you've got a lot of money

>>11919457
I am just going to leave this here, med related >>45895597

>>11925270
>>>/k/45895597

>>11920201
Get into backpacking

>>11924472
>various textbooks and 80 shades of highlighting with coloured pens
The virgin colouring in book vs the chad hastily scribbled pencil in cheap notepad.

can dentists post in this thread?

>>11925305
I've asked dental questions in here before so I hope so.

>>11923777
21?
she looks like 40

>>11924367
Well I'm already a MD so I guess that puts me way over any "premed" in the social hierarchy

Any of you guys ever worked for a time with volunteer associations like Emergency or Médecins Sans Frontières?
Would you mind sharing your experience?
I'm an anesthesiafag interested in doing some time with them so I would be interested in hearing your opinion on volunteer work

>>11925295
>notebook
A chad only uses plain white paper and writes on the back of premeds.

>>11925305
no, because dentists don't exist

>>11925305
Highly encouraged.

Is immunosuppression caused by corticosteroids pemanent? If not, how long will it last?
Do you have link to literature?
Thanks.

>>11925443
>Is immunosuppression caused by corticosteroids pemanent?
No.
>If not, how long will it last?
Until metabolised and downstream effects are metabolised.
>Do you have link to literature?
No.

>>11925468
>Until metabolised and downstream effects are metabolised.
Does this take days, months or years?

>>11925424
A true Chad doesn't take notes, anon, he absorbs knowledge from other people through osmosis

>>11925473
Hours. It depends on the particular drug but all you said is 'corticosteroids'.
That's like saying how fast does a car go.

What do they say, anons?

>>11925490
>it's a vocation, man: I want to make the difference, save lives, help people in need

As a tv spot once said: this world doesn't need heroes, it needs professionals

>>11925492
>I want to make a difference
This is too accurate. We don't have such thing as premed in my country, but from what I searched, they're insufferable. I used to say shit like "I like people, I want to help people" when I was 16 and told my classmates I want to go to medical school, but no one cared so...I guess it was for the better, kek.

>>11922920
Tell her to apply to both DO and MD schools, and look for schools with a postbacc program that will give you entrance into the med program in the event that she doesn't get in.

That's what I did, ended up being a DO and matched radiology.

Part 2 of my l3ctur10 medical courses share posts (part 1 with all the basic sciences courses is somewhere in the last 1-2 threads, maybe after I uploaded everything on Mega I'll create a single post with everything).
In this one there are most of the clinics with the exception of nephrology, general and vascular surgery which will be in part 3 becasue of storage space reasons.
Happy studying

https://mega.nz/folder/7OIjzIwJ
#kKCb7JfYiq7fCH4VUXedMQ

Dumb question: can boredom cause Parkinson's disease? I know Parkinson's disease is because of a lack of dopamine in your brain so my reasoning is that if you're too bored too often the lack of stimulus corresponds to a lack of dopamine which eventually manifests as Parkinson's. I know boxers also get it and it's also genetic.

>>11922000
>>11921943
Damn why r u guys so nice Im in math and all the premeds and most of the stemfags I know are cunts.

I haven't drank a glass of milk in a long ass time and now I'm farting a lot. No stomach aches, no diarrhea, just gases. A. LOT. OF. GAS.

I have no problem with cheese or yogurts and it looks like it only happens if I drink milk or use it for cereal. I know it's not lactose intolerance, then is it malabsorption? I haven't seen lactose intolerant patients on GI and not even during pediatrics rotation so I have zero experience. Pls help frens.

>>11925951
You (You)'d me twice lmao. /med/ is comfy, we don't sperg out at each other if don't know something and medicine is a bit more subjective than mathematics because stuff manifests differently in people. So...I think there you have it.

>>11925951
see above posts mocking pre-meds for being tryhard gimps m8

good morning /med/

Ehhhem. Fuck premeds.

Thank you.

>>11925767
no

>>11921322
Pretty good, I'd say. You make a lot of money, don't work too much and it's a really useful specialization so it will always be in demand.
AI taking over is just a meme

>>11926215
Exactly. Technology in medicine is on the rise but it's only there to aid us. Not from US, but when our hospital received its first DaVinci surgical robot, patients were very uncomfortable and thought that the robot would do the surgery on its own lmao. Same with radiology, just because you use a lot of technology, a computer may not see what you see or misdiagnose. We'll be long dead before any of that shit happens.

>>11925383
i don’t think anyone here would be, since you need many years of diverse clinical experience for that, and threads population is mostly students or residents. If you are really thinking about it you need to realize that your practice will be very different from what you are used to in where you live. During mission you will simply not have most of the equipment that you are used to working with and there is always big shortage of medicine and ppi on those places so you just work with what you have. Most importantly you don’t go there as an anesthesiologist but as doctor since you might have to do virtually anything from any specialisation so you have to have good general lnowledge of medicine and good social skills since you’re gonna have to tame and lead lots of niggers, even doctors among them are sometimes retarded and stubborn. Alas it would be a great thing for experience if you come back alive and healthy and it can be viewed as adventure too.

know any good detailed anatomy video playlists? I want to relearn stuff and i realized i can study better if i absorb shit through lectures.

>>11926143
>Ehhhem. Fuck premeds.

kek

Any based ER docs here?

Scored ISTP on Myers Briggs so it makes sense Im finding online study the most boring shit ever. Any anons also need stimulation ?? Where do they get it from??

>The doctors that treat you are frogposters
Abstract kind of feel

>>11921322
>>11926215
>AI taking over is just a meme
>>11926288

Radiology resident here.

AI is a minimum of 20 years from being used in rads. Look at mammography, we have had CAD for over a decade now and it fucking sucks. If we trusted it, 75+% of women would end up with unnecessary biopsies. We haven't even started using AI for other parts of rads yet.

Anyone going into radiology today will be safe.

>>11926925
I once knew a guy who had a mild sexual relationship with his dog that got into a DO medical school in Michigan. I think he's a radiologist now.

>>11927875
Classic

>>11925701
thanks for sharing anon. If it's not too much to ask can you also share the qbank

>>11925701
You are fucking amazing. Thank you. I have been trying to access stuff like this to get a better idea of what I'll be in for when I eventually go to med school (I'm a non science student so this stuff is invaluable). Really appreciate it.

Any psychiatrists or neurologists here interested in computation?

Bros redpill me on geriatrics IM. My heart says yes but everyone I ask says no ;(

>>11927875
based radiologists

>>11928574
If you think that's based just wait until you see these fellas. And no, it's not a fake story.

>>11927875
why am i actually not surprised he became a radiologist

Good morning, /med/. I have a dentist's appointment today to check on my last wisdom tooth but it's not impacted or something of the sort, it actually grew out pretty nicely and I hope it won't remove it.

>>11928606
looks like my radiology department.

>>11928573
IM is already a mental masturbation spec. You have to micromanage everything, little by little, check on blood panels every single day and keep everything in check. Now imagine doing that to an old patient that's riddled with comorbidities and it's unstable. It's a huge headache and considering they're on the IM ward, they're really sick. If you like it, sure, go for it, but it's too much of a hassle having 10-15 patients for yourself with multiple pathology, most likely poorly controlled, every single day.

>>11925701
please create single post with everything too, maybe we can put it in OP of next thread

>>11929178
archived.moe

Go to the /sci/ archive and search in the latest threads with CTRL + F.

Why does my left eye see a slightly blue-green image and my right eye a slightly reddish image, but only when fully adapted to bright sunlight?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32692387/

Dangerously based.

>>11919466
what do doctors think of medical/clinical laboratory scientists? gonna get my license a year from now

>>11929429
do your job labbie

>>11929429
First of all, based kot poster with kot folder.

Second, I like them. In my country, you need to graduate medical school to work in a lab but they do a ton of stuff ranging from the typical blood work to research, bacteriology and pathology to some degree.

>>11929259
are those lectures finished or ongoing?

>>11929264
probably different number of different types of cone cells in each of your retinas

>>11929448
No idea, not him and didn't download them because I don't need them, but you can check for yourself. Anon said that there wasn't enough space and would separate them into two megas.

>>11925701
BASED. I'm taking those FM lectures, thank you very very much anon.

>>11928475
I think I only have some of those, but I will in the next post

>>11929437
>you need to graduate medical school to work in a lab
seems like overkill, I'm doing a 1 year post bacherlor's (microbiology degree) and there are 4 year programs too

>>11929434
as opposed to not doing it? I've heard CLSs and nurses don't like each other

I drink heavy whipping cream straight up.
I've been doing this for a week.
I haven't consumed anything either.
only heavy whipping cream.
is there anything wrong with this?

>>11929566

>>11928546
Every doctor should be interested in computation at this point.

>>11929522
shh, just run the tests!

>>11929582
True. I'm in the UK though and it looks like computation is still far away from making its way into the NHS. Not sure how it is across the pond

>>11929597
*hemolyzes your sample*
nothing personnel, kid

>>11929602
wtf bro not cool

Hi /med/, got a circumcision last Friday just wanted to know when can I fap again? I went from fapping 3 times a day to nothing for the past 6 days and I'm honestly going crazy. I'm regretting this already since I've heard masturbation isn't going to as good as before. Also any signs I should look out for to make sure the healing is going right?

>>11929683
>got a circumcision
bruh

>>11929683
>cut on purpose
why you dumb fuck? why?!

>>11929581
what the fuck dude this isn't an answer?

>>11929683

>>11929686
>>11929689
I have no choice if I wanted to have a normal sex life, I had severe phimosis. I did not want to get cut

>>11929691
I think the picture was self explanatory. You're dumb.

>>11929694
>didn't use steroid special cream to help stretch
kek

>>11929696
it's a picture of a judgmental cat
it didn't explain anything.
CUNT
fucking filthy cunt
you're such a filthy cunt, a dirty unpowered fetid mexican shat inside of the cunt, the spicy burrito shit with corn and peppers sprinkled in it engulfs the half rotten fetus inside the cunt.
a black aids riddled homeless man sticks his pimply, greasy, unwashed, shmegma dick into the stinky shit filled rotten fetus cunt, and busts a vile infected puss filled nut to make a vanilla chocolate rotten fetus swirl of vile semen and stinky shit.

>>11929683
Don't fap until your stitches are healed seriously. I had a circumcision when I was younger for the same reason and, being a horny 13 year old, thought I'd whack one off while my stitches were still healing. Holy fuck it fucking hurt and I think to this day I've got marks where the stitches pulled on each other so the pink-brown demarcation line isn't even straight anymore. For the love of your dick don't touch that shit until it's all fully healed. In the meantime distract yourself as much as you can. Seriously

>>11929717
>pink-brown demarcation
why is your dick brown?

>>11929717
How long did it take you to heal anon? Also how long does it take for the stitches to dissolve since they're pretty pointy and uncomfortable

>>11929712

>>11929725
Not an arugemnt
I hate you
Get a fucking life
Go suck a dick
Everything you say is gay
Read the first letter

>>11929719
not a nig. I meant the usual tan-skin vs pink-skin demarcation

>>11929722
It was a long time ago but I'd say at least 2 weeks

>>11929733
>tan-skin
huh?

>>11929522
>overkill
Yes, yes it is overkill, but it's super comfy especially in small hospitals. Most of the doctors barely do anything, plenty of time to do research.

Also >>11929602 based.

>>11929731
Most definitely whiter than you, bro.

>>11929738
suck my dick faggot...
god i'm so alone

>>11929041
This.
>tfw lot of geriatric patients in the er today
>barely stabilize them and ship them off to the IM ward

>>11929735
nigga I'm talking about the dark vs white skin demarcation that every single adult human male has on their dick, wtf have you never looked at your own peeper

>>11929867
Yeah it's nice and pale

>>11929874
Lol I'm afraid you've got a skin tag not a dick bruh

>>11929885
You're dick must be pretty dirty.
mine is white as snow.
and the head is REALLY pink and translucent.

>>11929889
kek are you a stingray

>>11929754
Hi finnbro, how was/is your shift?

>>11929896
No
i'm a mutt with a familial history of albinism.
My grand mother is albino, my great great grand mother was so white they say her skin was whiter than milk and her hair too.
she didn't speak spanish and had moved with her husband from a different country.
her husband was described to be tall, handsome, tan, hairy, and with very curly hair.
oddly too my other grand mother is the daughter of a half nigger and very white as well.

>>11929908
do you experience racism as a black man?

Today's training is gonna be either really horrible or really good
results drop as soon as my shift starts in 90 minutes
I feel like i'm gonna be sick
I have no idea if I'm gonna pass or not
ps: I just threw up

>>11929913
kek
I've never thought of myself as pertaining to a race.
but yes
almost entirely perpetuated by white women.

>no surgeries till monday
time to studeeeeh

>>11929975
no school until september. GET ME OUT!

>>11929994
go cocoon mode and study and lift hard, you have no excuses!

>>11929867
>dark vs white skin demarcation that every single adult human male has on their dick
Every single genitally mutilated adult human*

>>11930057
I already got on the thesis, just have to search my mom's archives to get the patients. Nothing was announced for the final year yet and I'm in this state of agitation, everything is going through my head now. Thesis, exam sessions, residency exam, I just want it to start, to end fast and to finally be a resident.

And now that I mention residency, did you have peers that in the first two years of medical school would be dead set on something surgical and then just choose something comfy instead? All my group-mates want something chill like optho or path and only one that I know of that still wants plastic surgery/ortho.

>>11929914
How'd you do lad?

Anyone here knowledgeable about nutrition?
I want to purge myself from all the nasty shit I've been taking into my body during my teenage years by eating garbage. I figured I'd try only eating stuff that hadn't been tampered with/transformed/processed, and cut down on the meat, so just:
>fruits
>vegetables
>eggs
>rice, beans, lentils, potatoes
>water
>occasionally some fish like tuna or salmon
Is this enough for a balanced diet or do I need to add some other shit? I basically want to eat as simply and healthily as possible and remove as many unhealthy foods as possible.

>>11930232
Remove sweets (especially ice cream) and soda.

Fruits (dried or not) + nuts (almonds/cashew) as snacks
Don't forget dairy products, you need a good source of protein besides meat. Chicken, turkey, fish are pretty nice, you can also have days in which you eat beef or pork but try to make it once a week at least. The rest is okay. I assume you don't have a goal like losing weights or working out to get ripped or something so this much should be enough to start your diet. You can make avocado spread and eat it with black bread, spring onions on top and tomatoes + cheese on the side for breakfast or idk, there are plenty of healthy food ideas around. You can also start counting your calories but as I said, if you don't have a goal besides "cleansing", then it's not worth the hassle.

>>11930278
Yeah I was implying that I wouldn't eat anything aside from what I greentexted to sweets, sodas, bread and all that shit is out of the question
>dairy
Is that really ok? I read that adults don't have the digestive enzymes to properly break down lactose, and stuff like butter and cheese is always processed anyway
Regarding meat, isn't red meat carcinogenic? I thought eggs, lentils and nuts could cover the protein aspect well enough.
And no I don't want to get ripped, I just want to feel good and ensure I don't die of digestive cancer but rather of comfy heart failure in my nineties

>>11930075
yes most of them actually, since while getting in people have different ideas about specialities from movies, people, etc. i for example realized what i actually wanted during my last months of last year(its me georgiananon).

>>11930179
>>11929914
I FUCKING DID IT
I AM A FUCKING LEGEND
AAAAAAAA
IVE NEVER REDONE AN EXAM AND I NEVER FUCKING WILL
GASTRO AND ENDOCRINO CAN SUCK MY BALLS

>>11930286
We can't break down a huge amount of lactose so it's different if you drink a glass of milk vs a slice of cheese.

>isn't red meat carcinogenic?
There is a risk to develop cancer at a later age due to red meat consumption, but IIRC it's only 0.3%, so it's very low, especially if you eat it rarely like once a week.
Eggs have enough protein, but lentils are more fibre and nuts are more healthy fat than protein but you can't rely on eggs only, I'd go mad if I ate eggs every single day. A proper diet is diverse. Japs for example have one of the highest rates of stomach cancer. Why? Because they eat shit. Miso soup, raw fish, pickled ginger with almost anything, it's just a trash diet for their stomachs. Try to be as diverse as possible and don't neglect any kind of food. Of course there's risk of developing cancer and food is not the only factor incriminated. Black bread is actually good, or you can make indian naan bread at home which is also extremely easy.

>>11930296
Hello georgianbro. Still got your mind on general surgery I assume and I still think that you wanted OB/GYN in the earlier /med/ threads, idk why. How's your uni life going, bro?

>>11930310
Is lactose-free milk a good way to diversify protein intake?
Is there a single culture that has a good overall diet? Mediterrannean perhaps?
Eggs every single day is probably too much cholesterol anyway though from what I've read the opinions on how harmful dietary cholesterol is diverge quite a lot
Thank you for your advice by the way, I appreciate it

>>11930329
>lactose free milk
have no idea, never tried it. I just have problems digesting milk so I go for cheese instead.

>>11930310
no no i never wanted OB/GYN, actually it is probably one profession i never considered throughout the years.

>>11929602
Based
>>11930232
>purge myself from all the nasty shit
U some sort of witch doctor? Diet looks like the epitome of health. You can play around with seasonings and spices to prevent boredom. Any vitman supplementation?? Id recommend taking Vit D if your from the colder climes. Also if you booze and smoke these should be the next priority to feel healthier. Which is what I think you mean by purging yourself.

>>11930453
Is vitamin supplementation really useful? I read most of it was just dissolved by stomach acids but maybe that's bullshit.
>booze and smoke
Never
The only unhealthy thing I do is stress out, I'm anxious by nature but I'm not gonna start taking benzos so I guess I'll have to deal with it.

>>11930310
>Miso soup, raw fish, pickled ginger with almost anything

Japan has elevated levels of gastric cancer and there are multiple factors which feed into it Incidence of H.pylori infections, poor diet and smoking .Their really old population who ate very traditional diets high in salt with little fruit. However the numbers are coming down and today were seeing a younger generation who are much more aware of their health.

>>11930485
>I read most of it was just dissolved by stomach acids

Thats the stomachs job.

>Is vitamin supplementation really useful?

Yes, start taking vit D 2500 iu after you wake up.

Thats all I recommend, unless you feel lethargic or tired. Then start taking multivitamins and have some blood work done by your GP.

>>11930522
Alright, thanks.

>>11925701
thanks bro, though i can’t find the other one you posted, in arcives. got link?

>>11930559
warosu.org search mega.nz on /sci/ and you'll find it on the first page. Not that anon but I'm on the phone now.

>>11928528
>I have been trying to access stuff like this to get a better idea of what I'll be in for when I eventually go to med school
lol if your premed, enjoy your life while you can. Enjoy volunteering so you have some shit to motivate you through med school not some shitty factoids about Hep B

>>11930809
No. If he's premed, he should be beaten with a stethoscope. Fuck premeds.

>>11929041
What about geriatrics outpatient?

Inpatient IM is garbage regardless of subspec

>>11929754
Not much better when you're on the IM ward as well, especially with them geriatrics
>order qd bloods to be drawn, micromanage like this this anon says>>11929041
>do basic treatments
>patient stabilizes
>patient wants to go home
>children of geriatric patient don't want them going home
>family forces them to stay another night or two
>suddenly a worsening in condition
>they stay
>family is in your face as to what went wrong
>geriatric patient decides enough is enough
>family drama about level of care ensues
>family declares full-code care for patient
>patient spends nearly half a year on the IM ward
>eventually dies of old age on the IM ward
Don't do it.

>>11930962
FM is cool with older patients. Males crack jokes, babushkas love you if you're up to talk with them for 15 minutes about their nephews and stuff like that. You can also do house visits for minor acute stuff, no micro managing at all, just monitoring and screening from time to time, referrals to specialists and discuss plans of treatment, dosages, how often should they come in for a consult, etc.

redpill me on neurosurgery /med/bros

>>11931291
It's ok.

>>11931291
You are most likely not smart or crazy enough for neurosurg

>>11931291
It's for nerds in the worst sense of the word. Status is fucking gay, it means absolutely nothing, just a bait to dupe dorks into shitty jobs with poor compensation.

>>11930971
I'd argue it's much worse in the IM side. That was my point; I don't like that shit but at least it's out of my hands fairly quickly.

>>11930286
>I read that adults don't have the digestive enzymes to properly break down lactose
>not having superior northern genes

>>11931694
This is 100% accurate. Story time:

Mom had a friend during medical school which chose neurosurgery just because of the status. He wasn't that good of a student and he wanted some other specialty but when he saw his grade in the residency exam and how high it was, he chose neurosurgery. I'm not sure if it was on impulse or that grade blinded him so much that he fell for the "prestige" meme, but he ended up doing no surgery, didn't like it one bit and now he's practicing as a physician without a specialty which is called (in my country) "Limited competence physician" (roughly translated and worked for my mom until he landed a job in a small hospital. The role is equal to an american PA, he needs physician supervision to be able to practice.

Fuck status, and don't let the grades blind you.

>>11931732
>Limited competence physician
Seems like a stupid system. Here you can do most things as just an MD and you apply to residency programs when you want to. You can naturally also drop out or switch programs without any penalty.

>>11931772
You can apply to residency here whenever you want to, too. But I guess he just wanted a job asap.

I thought american MDs or DOs without residency are called associate physicians and still work like PAs.

Plus, the story happened in the 90s, idk how limited the places were or what was the penalty of leaving residency, but even if he didn't do anything, the resident salary of a neurosurgeon those days and even these days was/is probably the highest among surgical specs.

>>11931800
>I thought american MDs or DOs without residency are called associate physicians and still work like PAs.
No clue.

If you can apply whenever you want, why didn't he just go to another program?

Evacuate thread.

NEW
>>11931890
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>>11925680
haha faggot

>>11931700
Why is it worse on the IM side? Just refer to geriatrics ward

>>11930907
I'm not premed. I'm a humanities student but am interested in pursuing medical school after undegrad. I hate premeds just as much as you. If I am "technically" pre med in your eyes because I am thinking about going to medical school then I hate myself.

wanted to say thanks again to lecturio anon <3

>>11932678
;)